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Title: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: kso_FAN on December 05, 2011, 08:46:35 PM
Later this week I'll have some breakdowns, analysis, etc. of the upcoming match-up with our pigaggy (apparently there are a lot of them) friends.

Any suggestions/requests can be posted here. (I will ignore ridiculous stuff).

For our visitors, you can learn more about the Cats and read some of my breakdowns from the season here: http://goEMAW.com/blog/?cat=4
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 05, 2011, 09:15:28 PM

For our visitors, you can learn more about the Cats and read some of my breakdowns from the season here: http://goEMAW.com/blog/?cat=4

Its a nice thought _FAN but do you have anything in 2 syllable words and drawn in crayon?
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 05, 2011, 09:46:11 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: SwiftCat on December 05, 2011, 10:55:58 PM
 I would like to see what type of read/option looks LSU ran at Arkansas, and if you think K-State's option offense will translate well.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 06, 2011, 12:23:01 AM
Are our safeties in big trouble?  :ohno:
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Post by: Lynchmobrules on December 06, 2011, 10:51:38 AM
Just how much trouble are our safeties in?  :ohno:

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: ZeroSumGame on December 06, 2011, 01:02:26 PM
Here's a stat to get you started:

Tyler Wilson - 3244 passing yards on the season.

I don't think your pass defense can hang.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: SwiftCat on December 06, 2011, 01:04:10 PM
This isn't a thread for stats, you asshat.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 06, 2011, 01:07:58 PM
Here's a stat to get you started:

Tyler Wilson - 3244 passing yards on the season.

I don't think your pass defense can hang.

that is not a request or suggestion. Keep the spamming to the other thread. tia
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 01:26:08 PM
Here's a stat to get you started:

Tyler Wilson - 3244 passing yards on the season.

I don't think your pass defense can hang.

Cute. That would've been good for 6th in the Big 12.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Murphyhog77 on December 06, 2011, 01:26:46 PM
Here's a stat to get you started:

Tyler Wilson - 3244 passing yards on the season.

I don't think your pass defense can hang.



#8 Tyler Wilson
Position:    QB
Height:    6'3"
Weight:    220
Year:    Redshirt Junior
City/State:    Greenwood, Ark.
High School:    Greenwood HS
Experience:    2 Letters
Tyler Wilson
Courtesy: Athletic Media Relations
Release: 07/20/2011
CAREER SUMMARY: Wilson has played in 13 games and completed 67-of-109 passes for 740 yards and seven touchdowns.
2010: He appeared in six games for the Razorbacks and finished the season 34-of-51 passing for 453 yards and four touchdowns with three interceptions. He became just the ninth quarterback in Arkansas history to throw for 300 yards in a game when he came on in relief of an injured Ryan Mallett in the second quarter at No. 7 Auburn. In less than three full quarters against the Tigers, Wilson passed for a career-high 323 yards, including a career-long 54-yard completion, and a career-high four touchdowns. His touchdown total tied for the fourth-highest single-game output in school history, and his passing yardage equated to the 14th-best single-game performance by a Razorback. His four passing touchdowns tied for the third-highest single-game output in the SEC in 2010, and his passing yards were the 12th-best single-game total in the conference. Wilson also set career highs with 25 completions on 34 passing attempts at Auburn. His four touchdowns were the most the Tigers had allowed at home since 2000, and his 332 passing yards were the most given up by an Auburn defense inside Jordan-Hare Stadium since 2001. The next week, he again stepped in for an injured Mallett and was 3-of-5 passing for 71 yards while finishing off a 38-24 win vs. Ole Miss. He was 4-of-5 passing for 36 yards in the Razorbacks' 58-21 victory vs. UTEP. He completed one pass for eight yards in UA's 49-14 win vs. Vanderbilt and opened the season with one completion for six yards in a 44-3 victory vs. Tennessee Tech. He played the final two offensive series but did not attempt a pass in Arkansas' 41-20 win at No. 18 South Carolina.

2009: Wilson played in five games for Arkansas, including action against Alabama. He finished the season 22-of-36 with 218 yards and two touchdowns. Wilson passed for a total of 138 yards on 13-of-19 passing and both touchdowns in the season opener against Missouri State. At Alabama, he completed 4-of-6 passes for 31 yards. He saw plenty of time in the victory over Eastern Michigan and went 5-of-11 for 49 yards.

2008: He played in two games, completing 11-of-22 passes for 69 yards and a touchdown with two interceptions. He was 4-of-7 for 27 yards with a touchdown and an interception against Alabama, and 7-of-15 for 42 yards with an interception the following week at Texas. He missed the remainder of the season due to an illness and received a medical hardship. His touchdown against Alabama was a 10-yard toss to Michael Smith.

HIGH SCHOOL: He turned in one of the most prolific high school careers in Arkansas history, passing for more than 8,000 yards and 93 touchdown passes. He also completed 62 percent of his passes during his high school tenure. As a senior, he led Greenwood High School to its third straight state title-second with Wilson starting at quarterback-while passing for 3,939 yards and 42 touchdowns for coach Rick Jones. He was named the MVP of the 5A state championship game. He was also named as one of two quarterbacks on the Associated Press Super Team following his senior season after completing 294 of 473 passes. He also rushed 65 times for 199 yards and four touchdowns. He was recognized with the Landers Award as the state of Arkansas' top player and selected an all-conference and all-state performer. He was a 2007 all-state selection. As a junior, he completed 294-of-434 passes for 4,222 yards and 50 touchdowns. The No. 9 pro-style quarterback in the nation, as rated by Rivals.com, he was also ranked the No. 5 overall recruit in the state of Arkansas by the same scouting service. He was rated No. 10 overall in the state by the HawgSports.com Natural 21 rankings and No. 6 by Hawgs Illustrated. He was ranked, by Scout.com, as the No. 35 quarterback in the nation and the No. 7 player in Arkansas. He was also recruited by Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri and Nebraska.

PERSONAL: Born Aug. 16, 1989, he is the son of Don and Suzy Wilson. He is majoring in recreation and sport management and earned a place on the Athletic Department Honor Roll for his work in the classroom in the fall of 2009. He was named to the SEC Academic Honor Roll in the fall of 2010
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 01:27:45 PM
Arkansas fans, I think Wilson is a very good player. But he's not better than at least 2, and probably 3 QBs we've seen this year in the Big 12.
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Post by: SwiftCat on December 06, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
Arkansas fans, I think Wilson is a very good player. But he's not better than at least 2, and probably 3 QBs we've seen this year in the Big 12.

Have you taken in to ACCOUNT that he plays football in the SEC? Could be the deal-breaker that pushes him over the top. It's time we start being honest.
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Post by: That_Guy on December 06, 2011, 01:50:50 PM
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1135866.html (http://cfn.scout.com/2/1135866.html)

I know it's only scout, but still, suck it arkansas.

4. Kansas State vs. Arkansas    
AT&T Cotton Bowl   
January 6, 2012  Arlington, TX, 8:00 pm FOX
 
Three Reasons Why You Have To Watch This Bowl
1. This should probably be a BCS bowl. Of course, Arkansas wouldn’t be eligible as a third SEC team in the mix, but would anyone complain if this was the Sugar Bowl? Kansas State is in the midst of a phenomenal 10-2 season, while Arkansas’ losses only came against LSU and Alabama.
2. Kansas State QB Collin Klein. For those of you who miss Tim Tebow without all the extra stuff, this is your quarterback. Klein can throw, but he’s one of the best power runners in all of college football. This is a tight Wildcat team that doesn’t screw up.
3. Arkansas could theoretically be the third best team in college football, and a blowout win could mean a top five finish. The Hogs led the SEC in total offense and passing offense. Kansas State’s defense isn’t LSU’s.

And Why You Shouldn’t Care A Lick: Auburn 17, Nebraska 14 in 2007. That was the last time the Cotton Bowl was remotely interesting with four straight blowouts. If the Arkansas offense gets up early, Kansas State doesn’t have the passing offense to make a comeback.

Three Names To Drop To Make Every Man Want You And Every Woman Fear You
1. WR Jarius Wright, Sr. Arkansas
2. LB Arthur Brown, Jr. Kansas State
3. DE Jake Bequette, Sr. Arkansas

Gut-Reaction Pick That Might Change In The Next Few Days On A Whim: Kansas State 31 ... Arkansas 27
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2011, 01:57:34 PM
Did you read his whole, helpfully-posted bio, _fan? That might change your opinion.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 02:05:57 PM
Did you read his whole, helpfully-posted bio, _fan? That might change your opinion.

No.

This game will address perceptions of the SEC and Big 12 though. Do bad defenses make the offenses in the Big 12 look good? Do bad offenses in the SEC make the defenses look good? Or vice versa to both.

As I've looked at both schedules, Arkansas faced a few really good defenses, but also a lot of pretty average ones. K-State faced several really bad defenses and a lot of average ones. On the flip side, Arkansas faced quite a few terrible offenses and some average ones, but K-State faced a lot of really good offenses and some average.

Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: razorfan on December 06, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
 :)well,i see why everyone is so upset,about playing the Hogs,because your gonna loose!!!!!!!!,
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: puniraptor on December 06, 2011, 03:01:24 PM
:)well,i see why everyone is so upset,about playing the Hogs,because your gonna loose!!!!!!!!,

SENT FROM MY NOKIA LX12

This is the place for anticipating honest game analysis, not this bullshit.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 06, 2011, 03:09:20 PM
:)well,i see why everyone is so upset,about playing the Hogs,because your gonna loose!!!!!!!!,

Yeah, this is like, the only serious thread on the whole forum.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: razorfan on December 06, 2011, 03:11:30 PM
Wow ,whats your team rankings?how come we only lost to lsu,and bama,,and you guys should feel lucky ,that your gonna be beat by the hogs!!!!!!!!
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Post by: puniraptor on December 06, 2011, 03:12:28 PM
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WPS, homie.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: wazucat on December 06, 2011, 03:17:19 PM
Any chance our front four will get any pressure on the QB ?  They will have about 4 weeks to heal up, recover and film study.  Grasping at straws here.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: wholehawg99 on December 06, 2011, 03:36:45 PM
I must say I'm concerned about the firing of our defensive coordinator 1 month before the game. Granted, most of us wanted him to go, and maybe the timing was necessary in order to get a good one just after everyone's season ends, but I am hoping this doesn't undo our already bad run-defense. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: bakerman on December 06, 2011, 03:45:38 PM
Any chance our front four will get any pressure on the QB ?  They will have about 4 weeks to heal up, recover and film study.  Grasping at straws here.  :crossfingers:

wanting to know about this match up too please
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 06, 2011, 03:46:11 PM
I must say I'm concerned about the firing of our defensive coordinator 1 month before the game. Granted, most of us wanted him to go, and maybe the timing was necessary in order to get a good one just after everyone's season ends, but I am hoping this doesn't undo our already bad run-defense. Thoughts?

I think it's a sign that Petrino doesn't really care all that much about the outcome of the bowl game.
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Post by: wholehawg99 on December 06, 2011, 03:52:03 PM
"I think it's a sign that Petrino doesn't really care all that much about the outcome of the bowl game."

I don't think so. I think he believes Caldwell (possibly the replacement) can handle it, and he wants the pieces in place, now.
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Post by: Fedor on December 06, 2011, 04:09:42 PM
I must say I'm concerned about the firing of our defensive coordinator 1 month before the game. Granted, most of us wanted him to go, and maybe the timing was necessary in order to get a good one just after everyone's season ends, but I am hoping this doesn't undo our already bad run-defense. Thoughts?
Wait, what?  You have a bad run defense?   Hmm..  How many points can you score if you have the ball for like, 4 minutes a half?  If our defensive performance is anything like it was against Baylor, it will work out to be about 5 touchdowns.
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Post by: MarilynKay on December 06, 2011, 04:53:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.
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Post by: puniraptor on December 06, 2011, 05:01:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


Your neighbor who practices intelligent discourse admitted that your run defense is weak. Do you think it's weak?
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Post by: wildrazorback on December 06, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Kansux st  has no chance to win the game!  Razorbacks 55  pussy kats 7!!
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2011, 05:59:42 PM
I'm starting to think all the Arkansas posters are just socks for one guy and we're the ones that have been had.
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Post by: MarilynKay on December 06, 2011, 06:37:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


Your neighbor who practices intelligent discourse admitted that your run defense is weak. Do you think it's weak?

Not so much weak as it is inconsistent.  It's either very good or very bad.  So, I guess in a manner of speaking it would be weak. 

Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2011, 07:49:47 PM
Are guys good at consistently throwing for 15-25 yards over the middle on 3rd and long? Because that could be a problem for us.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.
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Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 08:00:43 PM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.
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Post by: SwiftCat on December 06, 2011, 08:05:52 PM

And just glancing at some Arkansas film,

Have you found any streams? I can only find torrents.
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Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 08:12:19 PM

And just glancing at some Arkansas film,

Have you found any streams? I can only find torrents.

No, I haven't found too many full games, there preseason games against Missouri St, New Mexico, and Troy are on ESPN3. There are pretty decent highlights on the SEC site and on youtube that give a pretty good feel for what they do and how they play, though I haven't watched a lot yet.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 08:30:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVx0HXlncqE&feature=related
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Post by: MarilynKay on December 06, 2011, 08:38:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVx0HXlncqE&feature=related


There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.
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Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 08:41:09 PM
There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.


Fair enough.
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Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2011, 08:45:33 PM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.
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Post by: SdK on December 06, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
I'm watching the LSU game now. I've noticed they like hitting QBs a lot. Sometimes on the fringe of late hitting. Also like the shallow middle crossing routes. Two fumbles so far, I think both were from number 33. I wouldn't say bad tackling, but some appear to be more interested in leveling a blow than actually tackling anyone. Their d reminds me of ours aside from the tackling.

You are welcome for my VERY VERY hfbiq analysis.
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Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2011, 08:56:44 PM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

Like how we suddenly started running Hubert in the jet?

Would be sweet to give us a _fan five of the most likely wrinkles we'll see against Ark (like how we sprung stretch read on Miami, option pitch on whoever, zombie against atm, jet against ISU, etc.
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Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2011, 09:16:54 PM
Like how we suddenly started running Hubert in the jet?

Would be sweet to give us a _fan five of the most likely wrinkles we'll see against Ark (like how we sprung stretch read on Miami, option pitch on whoever, zombie against atm, jet against ISU, etc.

That was a nice wrinkle that just made sense. Split him out, then motion him to run stretch read. A lot of spread teams like Missouri do that all the time with their running game.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Fuktard on December 06, 2011, 11:04:29 PM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

by my count ISU converted 5,  3rd and 10 yards or greater.  that's awful...so frustrating.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: jh0486 on December 06, 2011, 11:55:57 PM
Arkansas Fan here with some early analysis:

Things K-State will be successful with:

- Speed Option  (specifically to the left side of the defense) - Our defensive ends have a tendency to push up field to much, specifically Bequette. Jericho Nelson, who plays bandit LB for us, also tends to over pursue.
- Zone Blitzes - Arkansas O-line struggles with stunts and complex blitz packages. Our O-Line is fairly decent at managing edge pressure. If you can force them to make an outside step and check back inside to a blitz they are toast.
- QB scrambles - Our secondary is average at best. If you force us to respect the pass early C. Klein can run all day on us.

Who really knows how bad we could be on defense with W Rob getting axed?

Things K-State won't be successful with:

-Slowing us down on offense - No disrespect, but if your name isn't Alabama or LSU ,you won't show us any level of skill we haven't seen before.
-Stopping the run - Even though we aren't a top tier running team, we probably have a better rushing attack than you have seen (Maybe Texas?). If somehow Knile Davis comes back for the bowl game, that holds even more weight. Not 200 yards, but a solid hundred yard day for DJamer.

If you showed me a single game film I would without a doubt say that Arkansas is an overwhelming favorite. I live in the KC area, so I have a few friends that are K-State grads. I have seen 4-5 games this season. There is just something about the Klein kid that worries me and Snyder is an all-time great, in my opinion. Every week you are a 7 point or greater underdog and every week you pull something out.

I think you are facing a more athletic team in every facet of the game, but in no way do I think you are outmatched. If you stretch the field and make us have to play sound on the d-front rather than just pinning the ears back, you will have a lot of success. Which is what your offense is based on.
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Post by: IH8LSU on December 06, 2011, 11:58:24 PM
I must say I'm concerned about the firing of our defensive coordinator 1 month before the game. Granted, most of us wanted him to go, and maybe the timing was necessary in order to get a good one just after everyone's season ends, but I am hoping this doesn't undo our already bad run-defense. Thoughts?

I think it's a sign that Petrino doesn't really care all that much about the outcome of the bowl game.

yeah, you're probably right.  Bobby Petrino's not very competitive.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: IH8LSU on December 07, 2011, 12:00:40 AM
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

by my count ISU converted 5,  3rd and 10 yards or greater.  that's awful...so frustrating.

You guys should make sure Coach Snyder knows about this ASAP!
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Joetown Parrothead on December 07, 2011, 09:16:02 AM
Also Arkansas Return Guys on Kick offs & Punts are wicked good.....  Joe Adams is a man child. 
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: bakerman on December 07, 2011, 09:29:50 AM
Arkansas Fan here with some early analysis:

-Slowing us down on offense - No disrespect, but if your name isn't Alabama or LSU ,you won't show us any level of skill we haven't seen before.


Thanks for being a good Arkansas poster and understanding this thread.

To this point, it's been really surprising to me this year, how good at just being in the right position our CB's and LB's have been. They aren't the most athletic group, but have done a pretty good job of being in the right place at the right time. I think this should come into play some and I wouldn't be surprised if Wilson throws a couple picks.

Also, our way of slowing offenses down, is usually to keep them off of the field as much as possible. Not many quick scores, especially since Lockett has been out.

I agree with _fan though that you guys compare pretty well to OK State.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: 8manpick on December 07, 2011, 09:55:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVx0HXlncqE&feature=related


There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.

Isn't the real problem that he Polomalu'd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0&feature=related) the returner?
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: MarilynKay on December 07, 2011, 10:09:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVx0HXlncqE&feature=related


There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.

Isn't the real problem that he Polomalu'd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0&feature=related) the returner?

Little different, I believe.  But, it's all a matter of perspective and opinion.  I believe that sometimes crap happens, and depending on which side you're on determines whether you feel it was an inadvertent "bad" hit, or intentional.

Did the returner signal fair catch, or was he shielding his eyes from the sun?  Please be objective in your assessment, because it does make a difference. 
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Cire on December 07, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
who cares what he did with his hand, pigaggie hit him with the top of his head.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: bakerman on December 07, 2011, 10:34:26 AM
I don't know if it matters if he was shielding his eyes or calling for a fair catch. The rules state that if the player raises his hands above his shoulder pads, its a fair catch. At that point, if he tries to advance the ball, the onus is on the refs to penalize the returner for trying to advance the ball after calling for a fair catch.

Also as Cire said, the Arky player lowered his head, putting his helmet straight into the returner's.
Title: Re: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: 8manpick on December 07, 2011, 10:44:46 AM
The returner never caught the ball, doesn't matter whether it was a fair catch or not.

Sorry for derailing your thread _fan. I'd love to see a fan frames of Arkansas defending the QB run game
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Joetown Parrothead on December 07, 2011, 11:17:03 AM
Just heard Randy Shannon is going to be the new "D" Cord. at Arkansas. He was a freaking awesome "D" Coach at Miami
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: mocat on December 07, 2011, 11:33:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZdu3RLeLU)  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg) young man can run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOYTsHBhBg)  Hogs never give up on a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pDvWahDoQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe9gyZUusU)  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbDzsG_Kaw&feature=related)


All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVx0HXlncqE&feature=related


There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.

Isn't the real problem that he Polomalu'd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0&feature=related) the returner?

Little different, I believe.  But, it's all a matter of perspective and opinion.  I believe that sometimes crap happens, and depending on which side you're on determines whether you feel it was an inadvertent "bad" hit, or intentional.

Did the returner signal fair catch, or was he shielding his eyes from the sun?  Please be objective in your assessment, because it does make a difference. 

MarilynKay, are you trolling us with this question?  :sdeek:
If so, please refrain from doing it any further in a _FAN thread.  T-Y V-M, and you are still my favorite.  :blush:
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Dingo on December 07, 2011, 12:34:32 PM
Pilfered from the other site ...


Sagarin Strength of Shedule for the top 10:

1) LSU           18th most difficult Schedule.             
2) Bamma     23rd   
3) OSU           6th
4) Stanford    36th
5) Oregon      29th
6) Arkansas   29th   
7) Boise st     69th
8) KSU           10th
9) S.C.            34th
10) Wisc        58th   

Sagarin list of top 10 most difficult schedules:

#1 KU
#2 Iowa St
#3 Texas A&M
#4 Texas
#5 OU
#6 Okie St
#7 Missouri
#8 Baylor
#9 Texas Tech
#10 KSU           
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: MarilynKay on December 07, 2011, 04:38:39 PM
MarilynKay, are you trolling us with this question?  :sdeek:
If so, please refrain from doing it any further in a _FAN thread.  T-Y V-M, and you are still my favorite.  :blush:

Ahhhh...bless your heart!

Not trolling.  I happen to be a female.  I happen to like football, and I LOVE Razorback football.

Let's face it.  Sometimes, every team may have a bad tackle.  If it's a consistent issue with either one player or the team as a whole then the team plays "dirty".
One "dirty" hit doesn't mean that's what is taught.  Sometimes, it means a young player forgot what the hell he'd been taught--and got too excited, and didn't pay attention.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 07, 2011, 04:55:19 PM
MarilynKay, are you trolling us with this question?  :sdeek:
If so, please refrain from doing it any further in a _FAN thread.  T-Y V-M, and you are still my favorite.  :blush:

Ahhhh...bless your heart!

Not trolling.  I happen to be a female.  I happen to like football, and I LOVE Razorback football.

Let's face it.  Sometimes, every team may have a bad tackle.  If it's a consistent issue with either one player or the team as a whole then the team plays "dirty".
One "dirty" hit doesn't mean that's what is taught.  Sometimes, it means a young player forgot what the hell he'd been taught--and got too excited, and didn't pay attention.

He may indeed be a very nice young man and a great student athlete. However, in this instance he made a "dirty" play. It is what it is. But what do i know, i'm just a poster on a "web"site.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: 8manpick on December 07, 2011, 05:01:03 PM
MarilynKay, are you trolling us with this question?  :sdeek:
If so, please refrain from doing it any further in a _FAN thread.  T-Y V-M, and you are still my favorite.  :blush:

Ahhhh...bless your heart!

Not trolling.  I happen to be a female.  I happen to like football, and I LOVE Razorback football.

Let's face it.  Sometimes, every team may have a bad tackle.  If it's a consistent issue with either one player or the team as a whole then the team plays "dirty".
One "dirty" hit doesn't mean that's what is taught.  Sometimes, it means a young player forgot what the hell he'd been taught--and got too excited, and didn't pay attention.

He may indeed be a very nice young man and a great student athlete. However, in this instance he made a "dirty" play. It is what it is. But what do i know, i'm just a poster on a "web"site.

False, he didn't "forget what he was taught."  It was clearly a cheap shot with intent to injure.  It is never okay to hit the punt returner before the ball gets there, and if it happens that blatantly, it is not an accident.  Dirty hit, dirty player, probably a bad person a.k.a. sh1t human being.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 07, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
MarilynKay, are you trolling us with this question?  :sdeek:
If so, please refrain from doing it any further in a _FAN thread.  T-Y V-M, and you are still my favorite.  :blush:

Ahhhh...bless your heart!

Not trolling.  I happen to be a female.  I happen to like football, and I LOVE Razorback football.

Let's face it.  Sometimes, every team may have a bad tackle.  If it's a consistent issue with either one player or the team as a whole then the team plays "dirty".
One "dirty" hit doesn't mean that's what is taught.  Sometimes, it means a young player forgot what the hell he'd been taught--and got too excited, and didn't pay attention.

He may indeed be a very nice young man and a great student athlete. However, in this instance he made a "dirty" play. It is what it is. But what do i know, i'm just a poster on a "web"site.

False, he didn't "forget what he was taught."  It was clearly a cheap shot with intent to injure.  It is never okay to hit the punt returner before the ball gets there, and if it happens that blatantly, it is not an accident.  Dirty hit, dirty player, probably a bad person a.k.a. sh1t human being.

:confused:
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: MarilynKay on December 07, 2011, 07:11:04 PM
MarilynKay, are you trolling us with this question?  :sdeek:
If so, please refrain from doing it any further in a _FAN thread.  T-Y V-M, and you are still my favorite.  :blush:

Ahhhh...bless your heart!

Not trolling.  I happen to be a female.  I happen to like football, and I LOVE Razorback football.

Let's face it.  Sometimes, every team may have a bad tackle.  If it's a consistent issue with either one player or the team as a whole then the team plays "dirty".
One "dirty" hit doesn't mean that's what is taught.  Sometimes, it means a young player forgot what the hell he'd been taught--and got too excited, and didn't pay attention.

He may indeed be a very nice young man and a great student athlete. However, in this instance he made a "dirty" play. It is what it is. But what do i know, i'm just a poster on a "web"site.

False, he didn't "forget what he was taught."  It was clearly a cheap shot with intent to injure.  It is never okay to hit the punt returner before the ball gets there, and if it happens that blatantly, it is not an accident.  Dirty hit, dirty player, probably a bad person a.k.a. sh1t human being.

Wow!  One "dirty" hit and you call him a crap human being??
Talk about prejudice. 

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Post by: ChiComCat on December 07, 2011, 07:20:03 PM
Meh, I would guess he didn't expect the player to be running up towards him.  He had too much speed going and knew he was going to hit him so, in the moment, decided to just lay him out.  It was murder, but not premeditated murder
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: IH8LSU on December 07, 2011, 11:04:38 PM
Pilfered from the other site ...


Sagarin Strength of Shedule for the top 10:

1) LSU           18th most difficult Schedule.             
2) Bamma     23rd   
3) OSU           6th
4) Stanford    36th
5) Oregon      29th
6) Arkansas   29th   
7) Boise st     69th
8) KSU           10th
9) S.C.            34th
10) Wisc        58th   

Sagarin list of top 10 most difficult schedules:

#1 KU
#2 Iowa St
#3 Texas A&M
#4 Texas
#5 OU
#6 Okie St
#7 Missouri
#8 Baylor
#9 Texas Tech
#10 KSU           

So the Big 12 team with the least difficult schedule has the 10th best strength of schedule?  I call foul on that b.s.
Title: Re: Coming: Cotton Bowl _FANalysis/Arkansas _FANframes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 10, 2011, 07:22:28 PM
http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78400.0 (http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78400.0)
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 10, 2011, 07:41:29 PM
http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78400.0 (http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78400.0)

weird.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on December 10, 2011, 09:44:03 PM
http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78400.0 (http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78400.0)

Someone in that thread, in reference to K-State, said "Yankees are weird."

Here's a question: Will our black players have protection the whole time they are in Dallas and around Arkansas fans? If someone has connections to the team, they should warn them about all this.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 10, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
some creepy pics in there as well.