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Assuming he doesn't foul out.
Thanks, Wally.
We're behind you.
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He'd foul out in 5 minutes!
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let it happen
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Are you going to make a video PW?
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Follow jam :love: :love:
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Follow jam :love: :love:
yup.
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Follow jam :love: :love:
Fist pump of the night!
Told you he could fly.
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I Couldn't have been more impressed with Judge tonight. That put-back dunk was insane. Not sure why he hasn't seen more minutes this season, except against KU.
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We're not getting any better playing Luis.
It's not too late.
To get something out of great players, you play them. That's all it takes.
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We're not getting any better playing Luis.
It's not too late.
To get something out of great players, you play them. That's all it takes.
were have you been my whole life PW
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We're not getting any better playing Luis.
It's not too late.
To get something out of great players, you play them. That's all it takes.
this
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I Couldn't have been more impressed with Judge tonight. That put-back dunk was insane. Not sure why he hasn't seen more minutes this season, except against KU.
hoping Frank gave McGruder and Judge the last 7 games off to give them a rest and a 2nd wind for the post season. :crossfingers:
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I Couldn't have been more impressed with Judge tonight. That put-back dunk was insane. Not sure why he hasn't seen more minutes this season, except against KU.
hoping Frank gave McGruder and Judge the last 7 games off to give them a rest and a 2nd wind for the post season. :crossfingers:
Excellent spin. I will use this when I get pissed with their recent playing time.
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agree with this thread... to get to the next level we need these guys. we aren't sniffing a elite 8/final 4 with colon and merriwether eating up minutes
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Judge's quickness and athleticism is unreal for a guy that is 6-10. If the game ever slows down for him we will get to the rim at will in the paint against most other big guys. He just doesn't have the footwork yet to attack like he should.
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i was a little confused when he did that move...
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He is starting to get his footwork. He had a few turnarounds last night that he moved pretty well on.
My concern with Wally is his rebounding. There were a few times last night were he went to box out and his guy simply moved him or went around him. There was also a time or two that he simply didn't try to box out.
He needs more minutes, but this type of thing has to be why he hasn't been getting them. Frank is all about D and boards.
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i was a little confused when he did that move...
Mocking what KU fans do for Xavier...
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My concern with Wally is his rebounding. There were a few times last night were he went to box out and his guy simply moved him or went around him. There was also a time or two that he simply didn't try to box out.
He needs more minutes, but this type of thing has to be why he hasn't been getting them. Frank is all about D and boards.
I don't see why people can't see this. This is THE reason he doesn't play consistently IMO. At times the Morris twins pushed him around like an 8th grader.
Granted, I'll take what Judge gave us tonight, especially in the 1st half, b/c we'll need it. But planning on much out of Judge more than 10, maybe 15 minutes a game right now is silly. But we need that solid 10-15, no doubt.
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I think we ignore his flaws because we want him to be amazing. The up-side for this guy is off the charts. The fan-base as a whole just wants this guy to be all he can.
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I think we ignore his flaws because we want him to be amazing. The up-side for this guy is off the charts. The fan-base as a whole just wants this guy to be all he can.
No doubt, and he will be amazing, but he's got a ways to go.
The good thing is we're in position to let him develop. We don't have to rely on him to carry us, or even be a major contributor this year, but as he develops, especially if he can give us good minutes next week and in the torn-a-ment, then it only helps us. Next year he can take on a Jam-Sam role, then by his JR year be a star at K-State.
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I feel as if when judge leaves after his junior year, we will all say "Damn... We only played him for 2 years..."
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My concern with Wally is his rebounding. There were a few times last night were he went to box out and his guy simply moved him or went around him. There was also a time or two that he simply didn't try to box out.
He needs more minutes, but this type of thing has to be why he hasn't been getting them. Frank is all about D and boards.
I don't see why people can't see this. This is THE reason he doesn't play consistently IMO. At times the Morris twins pushed him around like an 8th grader.
Especially last night, where they showed replays of Wally whiffing on box outs multiple times.
But I have to admit, the allure of plays like the follow-jam is pretty intense.
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As the +/- clearly shows. Wally was one of our better players last night and Lu was our worst.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2010/03/03/kansas-state-65-kansas-82/plus_minus
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Can you guys imagine what would happen if that was Energy on that breakaway instead of McGruder?
:facepalm:
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My concern with Wally is his rebounding. There were a few times last night were he went to box out and his guy simply moved him or went around him. There was also a time or two that he simply didn't try to box out.
He needs more minutes, but this type of thing has to be why he hasn't been getting them. Frank is all about D and boards.
I don't see why people can't see this. This is THE reason he doesn't play consistently IMO. At times the Morris twins pushed him around like an 8th grader.
Especially last night, where they showed replays of Wally whiffing on box outs multiple times.
But I have to admit, the allure of plays like the follow-jam is pretty intense.
He hadn't played in a game in like 2 weeks... of course he's going to be a little rusty. In practice he has no one physical to go up against, don't give me colon, so he's not gaining any experience playing against tough guys on the bench.
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My concern with Wally is his rebounding. There were a few times last night were he went to box out and his guy simply moved him or went around him. There was also a time or two that he simply didn't try to box out.
He needs more minutes, but this type of thing has to be why he hasn't been getting them. Frank is all about D and boards.
I don't see why people can't see this. This is THE reason he doesn't play consistently IMO. At times the Morris twins pushed him around like an 8th grader.
Especially last night, where they showed replays of Wally whiffing on box outs multiple times.
But I have to admit, the allure of plays like the follow-jam is pretty intense.
He hadn't played in a game in like 2 weeks... of course he's going to be a little rusty. In practice he has no one physical to go up against, don't give me colon, so he's not gaining any experience playing against tough guys on the bench.
:rolleyes:
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I feel as if when judge leaves after his junior year, we will all say "Damn... We only played him for 2 years..."
JFC, I hope.
That would mean we had two terrific years from him.
I'll take it.
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Can I get a mod to please merge this stupid thread with all the other stupid threads complaining that Frank confoundingly refuses to play our good players.
TIA.
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Actually, that was the 2nd photo from a half second later.
The earlier photo shows just how elite Wally is...
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omg _fan. brilliant.
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The earlier photo shows just how elite Wally is...
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:love:
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"Honestly, they told me it was a crazy atmosphere," Judge said. "It was loud during warm-ups and loud throughout the game, but as a player you're taught to tune the crowd out. I loved the atmosphere. It felt good when we quieted them down. My next three years, I plan on keeping them quiet."
:bball:
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"Honestly, they told me it was a crazy atmosphere," Judge said. "It was loud during warm-ups and loud throughout the game, but as a player you're taught to tune the crowd out. I loved the atmosphere. It felt good when we quieted them down. My next three years, I plan on keeping them quiet."
:bball:
:ksu:
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"Honestly, they told me it was a crazy atmosphere," Judge said. "It was loud during warm-ups and loud throughout the game, but as a player you're taught to tune the crowd out. I loved the atmosphere. It felt good when we quieted them down. My next three years, I plan on keeping them quiet."
:bball:
:pbj:
However Beas said the same thing("Everyone keeps saying 'One more year'. What's wrong with three more?"
Given that, I am taking the wait and see approach.
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omg _fan. brilliant.
Seriously. Watching fan ply his trade on here is like watching Lebron. He is good but you know he is just getting better....you wonder what the ceiling is.
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i doubt the Judgerator is a combo-fan, i really really doubt the guy gives two shits about old balls and his cast of misfit losers.
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i doubt the Judgerator is a combo-fan, i really really doubt the guy gives two shits about old balls and his cast of misfit losers.
Sounds like you stopped just short of predicting an off season brawl btwn BB and FB.
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Is Freddy going to play 25+ minutes next year?
Hope not.
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Is Freddy going to play 25+ minutes next year?
Hope not.
No way. Probably 15-20. Max.
I'm hoping Wally can take over Jam-Sam's role; come of the bench after 3-4 minutes, play 15-20 mpg, and be a 10-8 kind of guy.
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probably not 25. but i bet and hope it's closer to 25 than 15. would love to see jhr completely frozen out.
it'll be interesting to see what they do with samuels. so far the move to the 3 has been more hype than reality (and the reality part has been more failure than success). but next year there certainly looks to be a lot more minutes in the backcourt than in the frontcourt. it has to be tempting to just shift everyone down, but then you end up with a pretty poor ball handling team. dunno.
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it'll be interesting to see what they do with samuels. so far the move to the 3 has been more hype than reality (and the reality part has been more failure than success). but next year there certainly looks to be a lot more minutes in the backcourt than in the frontcourt. it has to be tempting to just shift everyone down, but then you end up with a pretty poor ball handling team. dunno.
This. Have reservations about McGruds at the 2 right now...
Your JHR hate is entertaining.
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Was just thinking this last night, who is gonna be the other guard besides pullen to start? Right now I see
Kelly, Jam-Sam, Sutton, Pullen and ???? Is one of the freshman this year going to pick it up for next year (can a hbbiq person tell me if mcgruder could ever play a guard or will he be stuck as a Dom role)
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Was just thinking this last night, who is gonna be the other guard besides pullen to start? Right now I see
Kelly, Jam-Sam, Sutton, Pullen and ???? Is one of the freshman this year going to pick it up for next year (can a hbbiq person tell me if mcgruder could ever play a guard or will he be stuck as a Dom role)
This will be the biggest question going into next year. Will be discussed on goEMAW podcast this week!
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Was just thinking this last night, who is gonna be the other guard besides pullen to start? Right now I see
Kelly, Jam-Sam, Sutton, Pullen and ???? Is one of the freshman this year going to pick it up for next year (can a hbbiq person tell me if mcgruder could ever play a guard or will he be stuck as a Dom role)
This will be the biggest question going into next year. Will be discussed on goEMAW podcast this week!
I'd like Irving bringing the ball up with Pullen at mostly the 2. I don't think the other froshes could handle both ends of the floor.
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Trying to envision a lineup where Wally is the 3...(prefer he be facing the basket, exclusively)
But I also believe in Jamar at the 3...
Rodney's fine at the 2. Rebounding would be fantastic.
Don't want to leave out Dom...
Jake
Rodney
Dominique
Wally
Curtis
Leave Jamar as 6th...
Bring in Freddy/Jordan at the end of the half so Jamar/Wally/Curtis don't pick up 3.
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If Russell doesn't turn into a man this off season, Jake will def be our point(assuming no 2010 Frosh is much more than they seem to be).
I haven't seen anything from Irving to make me think he could be serviceable at point. Huge step down from Denis.
Jake at point, Irving/McGruder at 2. Both of whom will need to work on their three ball in the off season. Much more likely for those two to slightly improve their trey, then for Irving's handles to get where they need to be to play point.
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Can I get a mod to please merge this stupid thread with all the other stupid threads complaining that Frank confoundingly refuses to play our good players.
TIA.
No offense boys, but I have concluded that it is a syndrome of the KSU fanbase to go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) everyonce in a while.
Even in a safe zone like this place - whereever Kats engage in group think, full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) eventually hits. :dunno:
F*ck it - its like 86% of the reason I keep coming back. :cheers:
:love:you guys.
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messes with my head thinking about wally and playing time. because i dont really see many games if any we lose playing wally a bunch (certainly over colon) but do the extra minutes = defensive development? seems like u learn more on the court than off. just fail to see the downside.