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Title: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Kat Kid on November 22, 2011, 10:23:22 PM: I'm turning this one over to the steve's and #teamangel. I'm in denver's C terminal TSC'ing my ass awaiting a connection to Vegas.
Would love to hear some details from the game!

Jamar: how did he look? Knee ok? Get the start?

Gip: tell #teamgip all the wonderous and strong post moves he displayed

JO: did he...you know... Also, off the dribble?

Martavious: lost?

Sprads neds no update because he is aways sprads.

McOreb get his shot back?

Yada yada yada. Need a full report!
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: sys on November 22, 2011, 10:41:08 PM: pps = ar-t, gippy. nns = wgaf?

samuels looked as big as a house. jhr looked like he'd never heard of the concept of dunking on bitches.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: FHSU92 on November 22, 2011, 10:57:54 PM: - JO power moves & team turnovers

+ mi3 3s, tgip almost dubdub, jamsam screwed head on almost straight
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on November 22, 2011, 11:04:14 PM: Peggy Po's: See 2nd half.
Nancy Neg's: See 1st half.

Judging from the score differentials in the two halves, you would think we played much better in the 2nd than we did in the 1st, but that was not necessarily the case. UMES couldn't miss from 3 early and we had several very make-able shots not fall (38% from the field in the 1st).

Good to see Frank and the boys keep their composure. I wouldn't have guessed being tied with 6 minutes left in the 1st that we would win by 42. It appears from the early games we are a much better 2nd half team (through 3 games we are -2 in the 1st half, and +62 in the 2nd), which is understandable considering we are young and Frank likes to play a deep bench.

I think the young guys are still discovering their roles, but seem to be adapting well and progressing offensively and defensively. We may be a tough team to handle come Big 12 play, though I see us being manhandled by superior athletic teams. Color me mildly optimistic.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: EMAWzified on November 23, 2011, 12:33:14 AM: NNs, samuels finishing at the rim. Still cant (2-8 and one FG was a 3). And 3 rebounds in 25 minutes whoop, whoop; end of the bench white guys -- they really suck
PPs: JO's rebounds and put backs; Irving -- three 3s, 4 assists, no TO;. Southwell and Gipson, again/

Peak at a PP? Omari's sweet jumper. Jones' speed-- hope he learns gets the defense down.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: theKSU on November 23, 2011, 12:49:12 AM: A few po-pos: Gip looked great around the basket. Jam Sam with an alley oop slam. Diaz has good speed and body control on breaks. Irving filled it up with 3x3s. Jeremy Jones has a nice shot. Team Shot 78% from the line and 53% from the floor. Even Ojeles had a blocked shot.

Na-na: UMES is terrible at basketball. Announced attendance 12,528--the Royals must be doing the counting.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2011, 12:52:43 AM: I really have an issue with Sprads lack or assertiveness. He continues to play like a role player with starters minutes. He needs to put more pressure on the defense.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: SuperG on November 23, 2011, 01:45:01 AM: Quote from: theKSU on November 23, 2011, 12:49:12 AM
A few po-pos: Gip looked great around the basket. Jam Sam with an alley oop slam. Diaz has good speed and body control on breaks. Irving filled it up with 3x3s. Jeremy Jones has a nice shot. Team Shot 78% from the line and 53% from the floor. Even Ojeles had a blocked shot.

Na-na: UMES is terrible at basketball. Announced attendance 12,528--the Royals must be doing the counting.

Gip looked pretty good away from the basket too. Knocked down a jumper from the elbow and even looked good putting the ball on the floor from the same spot and taking it to the hole more than once to draw fouls and even finish on one of them. I think he still tires pretty quickly, but when he's on the floor he's giving everything. I like how he runs the floor for @ 270lbs.

Was anybody surprised he got the start over Jordan?

Saw pretty much what I expected out of a born-again Jamar. Plenty of effort, lot's of fouling, nice to see him flush that feed from 'Tay.

It's probably a good thing that it doesn't appear Rodney will be our leading rebounder this year. Wouldn't it be great if he 3rd or 4th best bounder this year? I think it would.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: catzacker on November 23, 2011, 06:16:05 AM: Peggy:
- Gip: for a 40 year old guy with a couple a kids and a mortgage, Gip sure plays basketball well
- Didn't turn it over
- Def Rebounding

Nancy:
- 1st half: everything about the game of basketball was terrible in the first half
- Jamar: i mean, jfc. finish.
- on ball defense: are guards can't very well without fouling.

still a NIT team.
Title: Re: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: steve dave on November 23, 2011, 06:16:55 AM: Jamar is still a foul drawing machine. Thought we were going to get the ole double foul when he was backing that guy under the rim 50 feet away from the ball but we got the homer single.

Rhoeledar (sp?) is as good at basketball as his brother was at football

Gip is as smooth as a house and has house like hands to match his house smoothness and size.

ar-t really "gets after it" on D. love watching him.

like MIR said sprads has been dissapointing.

yeah I guess Jones is pretty fast (osu senior guy voice)

our novembercats got their big win.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2011, 07:58:17 AM: Peg: Shane :pointingfingergun:
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: mcmwcat on November 23, 2011, 08:13:45 AM: pp: jamar
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: CNS on November 23, 2011, 08:25:44 AM: Sprads looked like a fantastic mid-major PG last night.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Stupid Fitz on November 23, 2011, 09:05:15 AM: NN: If he was in a slam dunk contest by himself Jamar would find a way to get fouled and miss a weak ass lay in.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 23, 2011, 09:11:25 AM: Peggy:
-ball rotation through the zone. yeah, we shot 65% in the 2nd half, but part of that was due to the high number of wide-open, uncontested shots.
-front court range. Jamar draining 3s and Gip hitting 15 footers.
-perimeter shooting. finally nice to see Irving and McGruder hit some open shots.
-transition game. yeah, UMES gave up in the 2nd half. But, we were running all over the floor and getting easy points in transition.

Nancy:
-Didn't really have any negatives. I guess Spradling was dissapointing, for the same reasons already discussed.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: CNS on November 23, 2011, 09:12:09 AM: Second half: point where ball was passed to JO at the corner of the FT line. The D shifted and a wide lane opened up to the basket. JO looked at it, hesitated ever so slightly, then continued to swing the ball to the next guard over. The entire crowd went quiet during his hesitation, then all went "Awwwwww!" when he swung the ball.

Gotta give the crowd what they want, JO. Feed the beast.

Solidly in the Neg Nance category. One dribble, one and a half steps, and a dunk from being a huge Peggy Po.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: bigwillie20 on November 23, 2011, 09:15:11 AM: Why don't our bigs like to dunk? :confused:
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on November 23, 2011, 09:15:35 AM: How close is Spradling to becoming just our white, drive way shooting, 3 pt specialist, off the bench?
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:17:44 AM: Quote from: ZmoneyKSU on November 23, 2011, 09:15:35 AM
How close is Spradling to becoming just our white, drive way shooting, 3 pt specialist, off the bench?

just nickname him Conner Teahan and be done with it.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: CNS on November 23, 2011, 09:19:28 AM: Angel was awesome. I can't comprehend not being :TeamAngel: at this point.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:21:03 AM: angle is undersized and will get dominated against better teams
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: CNS on November 23, 2011, 09:23:32 AM: Quote from: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
angle is undersized and will get dominated against better teams

101 :TeamClams: Road sounds like a lonely place to live this November.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 23, 2011, 09:25:02 AM: Quote from: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: ZmoneyKSU on November 23, 2011, 09:15:35 AM
How close is Spradling to becoming just our white, drive way shooting, 3 pt specialist, off the bench?

just nickname him Conner Teahan and be done with it.

you can't because sprads doesn't have golden locks or belle peau. :cry: (ftp://:cry:)
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:28:48 AM: Quote from: CNS Casey on November 23, 2011, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
angle is undersized and will get dominated against better teams

101 :TeamClams: Road sounds like a lonely place to live this November.

he's a freshman

but i don't want to get in the way of the #artallbig12selectors so carry on
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: CNS on November 23, 2011, 09:32:35 AM: Quote from: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:28:48 AM
Quote from: CNS Casey on November 23, 2011, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
angle is undersized and will get dominated against better teams

101 :TeamClams: Road sounds like a lonely place to live this November.

he's a freshman

Understood. He is inconsistent and will be for a while. But he is fun to watch and brings a sense of urgency that our other guards don't have.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: kso_FAN on November 23, 2011, 09:33:32 AM: Quote from: catzacker on November 23, 2011, 06:16:05 AM
Peggy:
- Gip: for a 40 year old guy with a couple a kids and a mortgage, Gip sure plays basketball well
- Didn't turn it over
- Def Rebounding

Nancy:
- 1st half: everything about the game of basketball was terrible in the first half
- Jamar: i mean, jfc. finish.
- on ball defense: are guards can't very well without fouling.

still a NIT team.

Lots of good stuff in this thread, but I'd have to say I agree with zacker the most.

This team will have plenty of bright spots because I think there is some talent there, but there will be plenty of growing paints. Right now it doesn't look like Samuels, JO, Sprads, McGruder, and Tay are the type of upper classmen leaders that can carry this team through growth to an NCAA. JMHO. That could change, but Sprads (and to an extent McGruder, especially in the 1st half) need to quit passing up good shots. And Jamar can't miss that many bunnies, and this was MES. Those guys have to be 3 of our top 4 scorers most games and probably need to score 40-ish between them. I'm not sure they will.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:51:14 AM: i would bitch about our perimeter defense but MES was going to make those shots regardless of who was guarding them.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: EMAWzified on November 23, 2011, 11:10:46 AM: I'm not really concerned about Doc the same way I am about Jamar. Seems like Sprads played at two levels last night, good and crap. May have been he didn't get in rhythm (although the end-of-half play was lol).
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: SuperG on November 23, 2011, 11:47:35 AM: Quote from: catzacker on November 23, 2011, 06:16:05 AM
Peggy:
- Gip: for a 40 year old guy with a couple a kids and a mortgage, Gip sure plays basketball well
- Didn't turn it over
- Def Rebounding

Nancy:
- 1st half: everything about the game of basketball was terrible in the first half
- Jamar: i mean, jfc. finish.
- on ball defense: are guards can't very well without fouling.

still a NIT team.

He's got to be using Just for Men in that thing... not even a hint of gray.

!!!ALL NEW!!! "Fear The Beard!"* *now with mustache!!!
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: kso_FAN on November 23, 2011, 11:54:24 AM: "Oh, this fear the beard shirt? This was based on Jacob Pullen, and his elgibility is over. Pretty clear to me that any fear the beard merchandise should be in the clear."
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: CNS on November 23, 2011, 12:07:10 PM: Quote from: ksu_FAN on November 23, 2011, 11:54:24 AM
"Oh, this fear the beard shirt? This was based on Jacob Pullen, and his elgibility is over. Pretty clear to me that any fear the beard merchandise should be in the clear."

$$$
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: steve dave on November 23, 2011, 12:25:19 PM: _FAN, make one with Gip's likeness and sell it until KSU tells you to stop again :ksu:
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: catzacker on November 23, 2011, 12:35:38 PM: Quote from: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
angle is undersized and will get dominated against better teams

true, however all of our guards will. i mean, I'm scared samuelsless to think what MU will do to them.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2011, 12:37:03 PM: imo we match up pretty well with mu's guards. they're midgets too.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
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Not surprised. Like, not even a little bit.
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Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 23, 2011, 05:34:26 PM: Gip has already blown my expectations for him out of the water. Saw him play about 1 year and a half ago(it was just 1 game) and he showed nothing close to the offensive skill level he's shown early in his career at KSU. Then, to compound things, every recruiting analyst who reported about him raved about his physicality and motor, but noted his lack of height and skill would be obstacles to overcome. Granted, the competition up to this point has not been elite, but I'd say he's well on his way to overcoming those obstacles. UMES was big and fairly athletic up front but still really looking forward to seeing how he progresses as the competition increases.

The hands, the hook, the touch out to mid-rnage, the ability to put the ball on the floor - didn't expect to see any of those this early in his career, but without a doubt, will take.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 23, 2011, 05:42:28 PM: Angel is already probably our best playmaker off the dribble but once he gets his mid-range game going, he will be a nightmare to defend.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: OregonSmock on November 23, 2011, 05:53:36 PM: Nice non-con schedule you guys have this year.

:flush:
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 23, 2011, 05:58:31 PM: George Washington, Va Tech(road), W. Va., Diamond Head featuring Xavier, Long Beach, Clemson, and UTEP.

Nothing to be ashamed of for a young, rebuilding team that's trying to define roles in the early, non-conference season.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: wetwillie on November 23, 2011, 06:00:26 PM: Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on November 23, 2011, 05:58:31 PM
George Washington, Va Tech(road), W. Va., Diamond Head featuring Xavier, Long Beach, Clemson, and UTEP.

Nothing to be ashamed of for a young, rebuilding team that's trying to define roles in the early, non-conference season.

Can't forget the gimmie at the Sprint Center in mid December.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 23, 2011, 06:06:26 PM: Quote from: wetwillie on November 23, 2011, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on November 23, 2011, 05:58:31 PM
George Washington, Va Tech(road), W. Va., Diamond Head featuring Xavier, Long Beach, Clemson, and UTEP.

Nothing to be ashamed of for a young, rebuilding team that's trying to define roles in the early, non-conference season.

Can't forget the gimmie at the Sprint Center in mid December.

Yeah, that's my bad.

Really looking like our best non-con opponent, probably not even close at this point.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: O-town Kat on November 23, 2011, 06:55:19 PM: Let's let the harleys in to do a lap around the court if it gets more people to the game
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2011, 07:35:59 PM: PP: My driving :driving:
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: jtksu on November 23, 2011, 07:49:02 PM: PP: We looked pretty fantastic during the 2nd half. Like a lock for the tournament, maybe make a run at like a Sweet 16.

NN: We're going to have stretches when we play like we did in the first half. No real leadership and Gip looks like the only guy we can count on to score when we need it most. Not good.

Prediction: Bubble team. Hopefully the 2 wins we get against UT are enough to make us one of the last in.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: BBF$$Kat on November 23, 2011, 07:49:45 PM: Quote from: Trim on November 23, 2011, 07:35:59 PM
PP: My driving :driving:

Speaking of did you get the gooch :drink: :driving: :eek: :nono: :cool: :grin: aTm travel story
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2011, 07:51:16 PM: Quote from: BBF$$Kat on November 23, 2011, 07:49:45 PM
Quote from: Trim on November 23, 2011, 07:35:59 PM
PP: My driving :driving:

Speaking of did you get the gooch :drink: :driving: :eek: :nono: :cool: :grin: aTm travel story

Yes. If I'd been driving, I wouldn't have even stopped.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: MakeItRain on November 24, 2011, 12:41:00 AM: Quote from: EMAWzified on November 23, 2011, 11:10:46 AM
I'm not really concerned about Doc the same way I am about Jamar. Seems like Sprads played at two levels last night, good and crap. May have been he didn't get in rhythm (although the end-of-half play was lol).

How can you be concerned with Jamar at this point? And you're right about Doc but he's been like that every game he's played. It was excusable when he was a freshman and shared the back court with Jake. Thus far this year all three games and the FHSU exhibition he has played one aggressive half and one half where he plays like a scared walk-on.

Speaking of walk-ons, not that I didn't warn the board three months ago, but Vulture :sdeek: I don't ever remember a walk-on looking that clueless in mop up duty.
Title: Re: Eastern Shore Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
Post by: kstate16 on November 24, 2011, 12:49:57 AM: More Important:

How freaking adorable was Collin Klein when they showed him and his football bros in the stands :love: :love:

:lynchmob: