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Title: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 02, 2011, 05:52:58 PM
is it possible for klein to become a badass thrower next year? Or is he destined to be kind of sucky at throwing forev's?

I mean, you guys all know me and my philosophy (talent doesn't exist. only hard work). but damn, sometimes you wonder. He's such an amazing runner you can't let go.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: theKSU on November 02, 2011, 05:57:00 PM
ochocinco Chad Ochocinco
Tim Tebow is f_cking awesome,unbelievable work ethic n loves to compete RT @cdmcmahon: @ochocinco what do you think of Tim Tebow?


See how this plays out. 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: EMAWzified on November 02, 2011, 06:03:08 PM
Improve yes; badass no
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Stupid Fitz on November 02, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
No
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Ira Hayes on November 02, 2011, 06:05:35 PM
Is it possible for your hero, Jack Sock, to make it past the first round of next year's US Open?  Or is he destined to be kind of sucky?
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2011, 06:36:58 PM
i've never played competitive football....unless reaching the quarterfinals in the chester e. peters flag league counts.    :fatty:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2011, 06:37:21 PM
he's going to be what he is.  sams may be an amazing passer though.  
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
posters in this thread pls id your comp football credentials pls, tia.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2011, 06:43:05 PM
first team 2A according to the SW Daily Times of Liberal, KS for YOUR...MEADE..... BUFFALOES!!!(undefeated state champs)!!!!! (CROWD GOES WILD).  Hon Mention according to garbage Dodge City Daily Globe (loser paper who everyone hates)-(crowd crosses arms and glares at video monitor).
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2011, 06:46:39 PM
first team 2A according to the SW Daily Times of Liberal, KS for YOUR...MEADE..... BUFFALOES!!!(undefeated state champs)!!!!! (CROWD GOES WILD).  Hon Mention according to garbage Dodge City Daily Globe (loser paper who everyone hates)-(crowd crosses arms and glares at video monitor).
need position for full disclosure to rule out possible Sean Snyder similarities
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 02, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
posters in this thread pls id your comp football credentials pls, tia.

played for a chester e peters rec team that was ranked as high as "#3 all u" in the collegian flag football rankings. we then promptly got disqualified cause one guy on our team played on another team as well. also absolutely destroyed top ranked "black supermen" in the playoffs despite giving them the ball to start both halves. also once beat a team 96-0 when the ref called it with two plays left on the clock.  :nono:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: The Manhatter on November 02, 2011, 07:53:55 PM
can he improve?  Yes.  Will it ever be to the magnitude that defenses have to respect his passing abilities?  nope...not IMO.

I'm like you...I really don't want to let go of his running capabilties.  That is most especially this year due to Hubert being the size of a peanut.

I watch RG3 and dream of Sams becoming something similar.  Same size.  Same tag coming out of high school.  Plus, Klein could be a BA flex TE.

Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: 'taterblast on November 02, 2011, 08:11:28 PM
Plus, Klein could be a BA flex TE.


this X 10. we are all in for a treat when kyle klein steps out onto the field next year.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on November 02, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
first team 2A according to the SW Daily Times of Liberal, KS for YOUR...MEADE..... BUFFALOES!!!(undefeated state champs)!!!!! (CROWD GOES WILD).  Hon Mention according to garbage Dodge City Daily Globe (loser paper who everyone hates)-(crowd crosses arms and glares at video monitor).

crushing powerhouses such as.... CIMMARON (crowd boos wildly, then cheers as Lee Corso puts a buffalo head on) and the hated, the previously unconquered.... SATANTA... INDIANS!!! (crowd boos with out mercy)
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: chum1 on November 02, 2011, 10:14:12 PM
no way snyder plays klein over sams next year.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: CNS on November 02, 2011, 10:15:32 PM
no way snyder plays klein over sams next year.

Yeah, he will.  At least the first few games. 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Rams on November 02, 2011, 10:21:33 PM
no way snyder plays klein over sams next year.

Yeah, he will.  At least the first few games. 
Yeah...no way in hell Snyder plays a RS frosh over a senior that's had as much success as Klein has this year...unless Sams is just THAT rough ridin' good.  :pray:

Anybody heard any rumblings about him in practice?  Is he as advertised.  Surprisingly I haven't seen anything about him on here since the season started.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: chum1 on November 02, 2011, 10:23:11 PM
black andrew luck
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Pete on November 02, 2011, 10:28:23 PM
Stan Weber, that's "THE STAN WEBER," was directly quoted saying that you will NOT be able to change Klein's throwing motion.  NO.  N. O.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 02, 2011, 10:31:05 PM
guys-

don't be idiots. there's a reason snyds moved him to receiver for a year.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Pete on November 02, 2011, 10:32:05 PM
no way snyder plays klein over sams next year.

Yeah, he will.  At least the first few games. 

He's knows this...he's building his ammo. 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Pete on November 02, 2011, 10:34:05 PM
guys-

don't be idiots. there's a reason snyds moved him to receiver for a year.

Are you implying that Snyder is going to literally, not figuratively, run Klein into the ground this year and have no regard for Klein's health because we have Sams and Tuggle?  Because, I believe that.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2011, 10:38:50 PM
posters in this thread pls id your comp football credentials pls, tia.

played for a chester e peters rec team that was ranked as high as "#3 all u" in the collegian flag football rankings. we then promptly got disqualified cause one guy on our team played on another team as well. also absolutely destroyed top ranked "black supermen" in the playoffs despite giving them the ball to start both halves. also once beat a team 96-0 when the ref called it with two plays left on the clock.  :nono:

was also ranked top 10, also defeated black supermen.  also defeated polk high.  hmm, can't remember scoring 96 or if it was much more than that. 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 02, 2011, 11:01:11 PM
posters in this thread pls id your comp football credentials pls, tia.

played for a chester e peters rec team that was ranked as high as "#3 all u" in the collegian flag football rankings. we then promptly got disqualified cause one guy on our team played on another team as well. also absolutely destroyed top ranked "black supermen" in the playoffs despite giving them the ball to start both halves. also once beat a team 96-0 when the ref called it with two plays left on the clock.  :nono:

was also ranked top 10, also defeated black supermen.  also defeated polk high.  hmm, can't remember scoring 96 or if it was much more than that. 

damn. i have to wonder if my team ever curbstomped your team's asses? deffy possible. deffy possible opposite day though too.  i'll find out and let you know. getting dq'd was a terribly sad week in my life. we had "what it takes" to win the thing. oh well.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: DQ12 on November 02, 2011, 11:02:04 PM
Played a lot of CYO football in KC. 

He'll never throw well.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Ira Hayes on November 02, 2011, 11:22:53 PM
guys-

don't be idiots. there's a reason snyds moved him to receiver for a year.

How do you think Snyder would have used Freeman?
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 02, 2011, 11:36:32 PM
guys-

don't be idiots. there's a reason snyds moved him to receiver for a year.

How do you think Snyder would have used Freeman?

that's a great question ira hayes. my belief is that LHC Bill Snyder would've played a future nfl first round drafted quarterback and current starting nfl quarterback as a quarterback. any more brainbusters?
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Ira Hayes on November 03, 2011, 12:15:00 AM
OK, smartass.  But Snyder would have made him run.  Just like he makes Klein run.

And they would have won a lot more games.

And Freeman wouldn't have been drafted in the first round.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: mcmwcat on November 03, 2011, 07:29:18 AM
Freemaw would be leading the league in carries just like Klein dumbasses.  Ira is with me on this one believing that Snyder is a terrible coach and doesn't know how to use talent.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
Freemaw would be leading the league in carries just like Klein dumbasses.  Ira is with me on this one believing that Snyder is a terrible coach and doesn't know how to use talent.
Use talent to win, or use talent to get them drafted?  We could have had a very effective offense with Freeman running a lot, and picking spots to hit deep balls when the safeties are drawn up by the run threat.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: kso_FAN on November 03, 2011, 07:36:22 AM
Rec players and some guy that apparently was pretty good at 8 man football. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: ednksu on November 03, 2011, 07:42:20 AM
so what is wrong with CK's mechanics?  Arm strength is an obvious issue.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2011, 07:44:10 AM
Rec players and some guy that apparently was pretty good at 8 man football. Sheesh.

let's not get carried away here
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: kso_FAN on November 03, 2011, 07:45:33 AM
Rec players and some guy that apparently was pretty good at 8 man football. Sheesh.

let's not get carried away here

According to SW Daily Times.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2011, 07:58:21 AM
Rec players and some guy that apparently was pretty good at 8 man football. Sheesh.
3 yr letterwinner, KS 5A state champs, state runner-ups, playoffs other year.  Various all league and area teams. Couple of low level college recruiting visits.  Not much, but seems like there are a lot fewer people with any football creds on this board than I would have guessed.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2011, 08:10:57 AM
Rec players and some guy that apparently was pretty good at 8 man football. Sheesh.
3 yr letterwinner, KS 5A state champs, state runner-ups, playoffs other year.  Various all league and area teams. Couple of low level college recruiting visits.  Not much, but seems like there are a lot fewer people with any football creds on this board than I would have guessed.

I hax'd this guys account and can confirm this is all lies.  marching band for him.  sorry bro, you were getting a bit big for your britches. 
Title: Re: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2011, 08:26:24 AM
eff. You got me. Theater club too. Was trying to live a double secret life on teh internetz.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 03, 2011, 08:40:09 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Rams on November 03, 2011, 09:52:51 AM
Freemaw would be leading the league in carries just like Klein dumbasses.  Ira is with me on this one believing that Snyder is a terrible coach and doesn't know how to use talent.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2011, 09:55:02 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.

yup they were surprisingly quick

do you have access to the old records/results? 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 03, 2011, 09:58:49 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.

yup they were surprisingly quick

do you have access to the old records/results? 

no. i do have friends with insanely good memories about that stuff though. going to ask them if we ever played you. will report back.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 03, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.

meh
Title: Re: Re: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.

yup they were surprisingly quick

do you have access to the old records/results?
  :opcat:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: OK_Cat on November 03, 2011, 10:40:51 AM
i sat on the bench for garden city's state championship my junior year of high school.  6A, losers.

klein will never throw better than he currently does. 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on November 03, 2011, 11:08:16 AM
I was the backup QB my freshman year on a 2A team that went 1-8?  Oh, hell I don't even remember the one win.  All State Cross country soph-senior year. 
But I can say for sure Klien can improve and maybe even be servicable as a thrower but never be a badass.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2011, 11:10:30 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.

yup they were surprisingly quick

do you have access to the old records/results? 

no. i do have friends with insanely good memories about that stuff though. going to ask them if we ever played you. will report back.

hmm if you did play me then you'd still have my name tattooed on your forehead,son. 
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 03, 2011, 11:37:43 AM
it seems to me like a whole lot of people don't quite realize exactly how good the black supermen actually were.

yup they were surprisingly quick

do you have access to the old records/results? 

no. i do have friends with insanely good memories about that stuff though. going to ask them if we ever played you. will report back.

hmm if you did play me then you'd still have my name tattooed on your forehead,son. 

if we did play and i did end up with your name tatooed on my forehead the only conceivable reason for how it could have ended up there would be due to some kind of pregame bet misunderstanding whearas heretofore i mistakenly agreed to tatoo your name on my forehead if we beat your team by thirty. possible? i suppose. likely? no. not very.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2011, 11:58:00 AM
He can improve.

*HM Chisolm-Trail league (that's 11 man, bitches)
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Boom Roasted on November 03, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
All metro but blocking isnt the same as throwing so I probably am not an expert opinion  :dunno:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: _33 on November 03, 2011, 12:43:09 PM
No, he cannot improve.

*Most touchdown receptions (2) on 7th grade team

Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2011, 12:59:59 PM
His pocket presence is decent though.*

*1st team all (KC) metro bowling 2006.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Kat Kid on November 03, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Gifted physically, behind the curve mentally.*

*99th percentile on Miller Analogies Test
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 03, 2011, 01:10:10 PM
He will never be as good as you would like for him to be.*

4th in 4A State doubles.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: therealgooch on November 03, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
He could be a good longsnapper and a helluva youth minister.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on November 03, 2011, 01:17:38 PM
He could be a good longsnapper and a helluva youth minister.
Oh man could you imagine being on his FCA camp football team you would dominate!!
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: AppleJack on November 03, 2011, 01:24:31 PM
I just don't see the arm strength, odd for someone 6'5" 230.

* I'm probably the most physically gifted poster here, however, I did not elect to take my talents to the football fields. 6'1" 190 (prototype NFL cornerback) would have had my pick of any D1 football program. Can also throw a softball really hard, so believe me when I say I know a little something about arm strength  :gocho:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Pete on November 03, 2011, 01:31:42 PM
He could be a good longsnapper and a helluva youth minister.

Confirmed.  Would have been a great mentor for the youth, and a tight spiraler.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Pete has some pretty great religious youth camp counselor stories
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Trim on November 03, 2011, 01:42:26 PM
Pete has some pretty great religious youth camp counselor stories

MVPete
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2011, 01:44:14 PM
Pete has some pretty great religious youth camp counselor stories

oh man does he ever.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
I just don't see the arm strength, odd for someone 6'5" 230.

* I'm probably the most physically gifted poster here, however, I did not elect to take my talents to the football fields. 6'1" 190 (prototype NFL cornerback) would have had my pick of any D1 football program. Can also throw a softball really hard, so believe me when I say I know a little something about arm strength  :gocho:

i will dominate you in the goEMAW IRONMAN competition.  raquet arms and all, son.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 03, 2011, 01:55:26 PM
No one will be taking my goEMAW "The Gauntlet" title any time soon so I can give an opinion and it's that CK will always pass worse than Smargasso.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: wazucat on November 03, 2011, 03:35:22 PM
Carson improved from junior year; therefore see no reason Colin could not do likewise,  badass  :lol:
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on November 03, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
I just don't see the arm strength, odd for someone 6'5" 230.

* I'm probably the most physically gifted poster here, however, I did not elect to take my talents to the football fields. 6'1" 190 (prototype NFL cornerback) would have had my pick of any D1 football program. Can also throw a softball really hard, so believe me when I say I know a little something about arm strength  :gocho:
Damnit, I always thought I was the most physically gifted on this board.
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2011, 05:26:53 PM
I like turtles.*

* - 12th percentile in reading comprehension
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on November 03, 2011, 05:56:24 PM
i sat on the bench for garden city's state championship my junior year of high school.  6A, losers.

klein will never throw better than he currently does. 

favorite thing to order at el zarape?
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: catzacker on November 03, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
No.  Not at the level that will make him an average passer. 

GWAL - Honorable Mention Linebacker, 3 year Letterman, tackled Lamar Chapman for a safety, destroyed Jeremy Crabtree (which is more than our LB's on the '98 team can say).
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: theKSU on November 03, 2011, 07:36:28 PM
Throwing motion cannot change, but could get slightly better at passing. Low expectations.  We're basically Air Force.

*nephew had undefeated season on 6th grade football team

*he broke his arm in the first game and was waterboy rest of season
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: OK_Cat on November 03, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
i sat on the bench for garden city's state championship my junior year of high school.  6A, losers.

klein will never throw better than he currently does. 

favorite thing to order at el zarape?

hep c
Title: Re: Attn: Anyone who has played competitive football in their lifetimes before
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on November 03, 2011, 09:15:25 PM
i sat on the bench for garden city's state championship my junior year of high school.  6A, losers.

klein will never throw better than he currently does. 

favorite thing to order at el zarape?

hep c

fair enough.
used to eat there daily :runaway: