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Title: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2010, 10:59:50 AM
what are your guys thoughts?
i saw a doctor oz episode and he was like ya it's really bad for your heart, then he did a little experiment thing and i realized how much sodium i intake daily and why it's bad. 

currently in the phase of understanding what foods i eat that are high in sodium and trying to figure out a way to scale back on them.  LOL @ "scale back on them" 

phase two will be sodium reduction phase.  anyone else reduced sodium?  how is low sodium food, grizoss?   :users:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
also- please don't read this thread and remember my lunch with s'clams thread.  they don't match.  (remember that i'm still in sodium research phase).
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2010, 11:05:05 AM
Any canned item will be loaded with it.  Like, canned tomato sauce/paste/soup/v8/etc. has tons.  Low sodium V8 tastes like low sodium barf stew. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 02, 2010, 11:08:00 AM
what are your guys thoughts?
i saw a doctor oz episode and he was like ya it's really bad for your heart, then he did a little experiment thing and i realized how much sodium i intake daily and why it's bad. 

currently in the phase of understanding what foods i eat that are high in sodium and trying to figure out a way to scale back on them.  LOL @ "scale back on them" 

phase two will be sodium reduction phase.  anyone else reduced sodium?  how is low sodium food, grizoss?   :users:

I have also reduced my sodium intake.  According to health experts, it is poison.  Also a major cause of bloating.  Was told to stay away from canned soup because of it's high sodium content.

Sodium is the main reason diet pop is bad for you.  I cut pop out of my diet completely, and I honestly don't miss it one bit (except for the occasional whiskey and coke zero).

A lot of your microwave frozen food, or processed food in general will have a high sodium content.  It makes it harder for your body to digest compared to natural foods.    
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: ew2x4 on March 02, 2010, 11:08:38 AM
I usually just don't add salt and I'm fine :dunno:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Jeffy on March 02, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
Pepper and other spices and herbs make great alternatives to salt.   :lick:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 02, 2010, 11:11:18 AM
Love sodium.  I'm eating about 1500 calories per day so sodium content is no biggy.  Olives are pretty high in sodium I think but you have to eat alot of them.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on March 02, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
I usually just don't add salt and I'm fine :dunno:

adding table salt generally doesn't count bc unless you are dumping on your food it's miniscule.  A few sprinkles on your food really doesn't matter.  What matters is what's in your food to begin with.

and anything that is premade/or oven ready etc is loaded.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: felix rex on March 02, 2010, 11:23:43 AM
Love sodium.  I'm eating about 1500 calories per day so sodium content is no biggy.  Olives are pretty high in sodium I think but you have to eat alot of them.

 :eek:

How's the weather in Sardinia this morning?
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 02, 2010, 11:31:42 AM
Love sodium.  I'm eating about 1500 calories per day so sodium content is no biggy.  Olives are pretty high in sodium I think but you have to eat alot of them.

 :eek:

How's the weather in Sardinia this morning?

:confused:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: felix rex on March 02, 2010, 11:35:57 AM
Love sodium.  I'm eating about 1500 calories per day so sodium content is no biggy.  Olives are pretty high in sodium I think but you have to eat alot of them.

 :eek:

How's the weather in Sardinia this morning?

:confused:

caloric restriction  = super long life = Sardinian centenarians  (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=sardinia+centenarians&aq=0&aqi=g1g-sx1&aql=&oq=sardinia+cen)

Also, congrats on living forever.  :cheers:

Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 02, 2010, 11:43:31 AM
I've started using the green bottle of soy sauce instead of the orange one when I get fried rice.  That is my sodium scale back.  Unfortunately I still use a eff load so it really probably doesn't matter anyway. 

Would love to do the low calorie thing.  I think I'm addicted to over eating though. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 02, 2010, 11:44:04 AM
Love sodium.  I'm eating about 1500 calories per day so sodium content is no biggy.  Olives are pretty high in sodium I think but you have to eat alot of them.

 :eek:

How's the weather in Sardinia this morning?

:confused:

caloric restriction  = super long life = Sardinian centenarians  (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=sardinia+centenarians&aq=0&aqi=g1g-sx1&aql=&oq=sardinia+cen)

Also, congrats on living forever.  :cheers:


Good deal - looking forward to it
 :bwpopcorn: <--except with a smaller bag, and maybe w/ olives instead of popcorn
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 02, 2010, 11:44:26 AM
I've started using the green bottle of soy sauce instead of the orange one when I get fried rice.  That is my sodium scale back.  Unfortunately I still use a eff load so it really probably doesn't matter anyway. 

Would love to do the low calorie thing.  I think I'm addicted to over eating though. 
That Kikkoman lite tastes like ass juice.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 02, 2010, 11:45:36 AM
Any canned item will be loaded with it.  Like, canned tomato sauce/paste/soup/v8/etc. has tons.  Low sodium V8 tastes like low sodium barf stew. 
A can of spaghettios has over a fourth of your daily intake.

Clams make sure you don't get a goider.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 02, 2010, 11:49:29 AM
I've started using the green bottle of soy sauce instead of the orange one when I get fried rice.  That is my sodium scale back.  Unfortunately I still use a eff load so it really probably doesn't matter anyway. 

Would love to do the low calorie thing.  I think I'm addicted to over eating though. 
That Kikkoman lite tastes like ass juice.

Yes it does.  It also only cuts back the sodium from 38% DV to 24% DV.  I'm swithing back. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: _33 on March 02, 2010, 11:49:59 AM
Salt is one of my favorite foods.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2010, 11:52:33 AM
goider from not enough iodine right?  i'm not stopping salt, just cutting back to safer amounts.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 02, 2010, 11:55:30 AM
I think if you cut out all canned foods you should be ok.  Instead of canned veggies go to fresh or frozen vegetables with no added sodium. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: slimz on March 02, 2010, 12:11:31 PM
Instead of canned veggies go to fresh or frozen vegetables with no added sodium.  

This is one good step.

I started to cut back on my sodium intake a couple of years ago due to heart issues.  It seems to have made a big difference so far for my blood pressure.

Nearly all restaurant food has a ton of salt in it, not just fast food.  Most of us have been conditioned to expect a lot of salt.  When I was young, we did not eat away from home that much, and my parents didn't use much salt in cooking, so I've actually been able to cut back without suffering through the taste.  For instance, I much prefer low-sodium V-8 over the original.

Cheese has lots of sodium in it, so I've cut back on that.  

Canned soup is high in sodium, but most brands offer a reduced sodium that has 45% to 50% less sodium.  I like Campbells' Chunky low sodium offerings, and have them often for lunch.  There's still about 35% your RDA, but I figure that's not too bad since it makes up most of the meal.  Usually make myself a salad with it...salad dressing is another place where sodium can get high.  I've found that viengar and oil type dressings usually have the lowest amount.

More than anything else, just taking the time to check and compare the nutrition facts and keeping your eyes open can really help guide you to lowering sodium intake.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2010, 12:28:32 PM
I think if you cut out all canned foods you should be ok.  Instead of canned veggies go to fresh or frozen vegetables with no added sodium. 
i don't really eat vegetables.  they will be implemented in a future phase heathly eating things phase implementation.

Instead of canned veggies go to fresh or frozen vegetables with no added sodium. 

This is one good step.

I started to cut back on my sodium intake a couple of years ago due to heart issues.  It seems to have made a big difference so far for my blood pressure.

Nearly all restaurant food has a ton of salt in it, not just fast food.  Most of us have been conditioned to expect a lot of salt.  When I was young, we did not eat away from home that much, and my parents didn't use much salt in cooking, so I've actually been able to cut back without suffering through the taste.  For instance, I much prefer low-sodium V-8 over the original.

Cheese has lots of sodium in it, so I've cut back on that. 

Canned soup is high in sodium, but most brands offer a reduced sodium that has 45% to 50% less sodium.  I like Campbells' Chunky low sodium offerings, and have them often for lunch.  There's still about 35% your RDA, but I figure that's not too bad since it makes up most of the meal.  Usually make myself a salad with it...salad dressing is another place where sodium can get high.  I've found that viengar and oil type dressings usually have the lowest amount.

More than anything else, just taking the time to check and compare the nutrition facts and keeping your eyes open can really help guide you to lowering sodium intake.
this is good advice, thanks.  the bolded part should help a ton.  i've noticed as i've gotten older that salt sticks out more to me in food than it did before and seems to bother me after i eat, like i can't get the salty taste out of  my mouth.    couple that with the Dr Oz heart message and I say salt can eat a fat dick.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: slimz on March 02, 2010, 12:38:26 PM
  i've noticed as i've gotten older that salt sticks out more to me in food than it did before and seems to bother me after i eat, like i can't get the salty taste out of  my mouth.   

About 1 out of every 10 times I go to Chipotle (some things are more important than low sodium), it will taste like they just took an entire bag of rock salt and dumped it into my burrito.  I don't know if they just mis-measure the salt in a batch of beans or rice or what, but it pretty much ruins the rest of my day.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: sys on March 02, 2010, 12:45:35 PM
good, more sodium for me.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 02, 2010, 12:45:49 PM
I had a bad run-in once with excessive salt at a Taco John's. Haven't ate there since.  :cry:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: felix rex on March 02, 2010, 12:48:10 PM
:bwpopcorn: <--except with a smaller bag, and maybe w/ olives instead of popcorn

 :crossfingers: <--except sardonically
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 02, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
  i've noticed as i've gotten older that salt sticks out more to me in food than it did before and seems to bother me after i eat, like i can't get the salty taste out of  my mouth.   

About 1 out of every 10 times I go to Chipotle (some things are more important than low sodium), it will taste like they just took an entire bag of rock salt and dumped it into my burrito.  I don't know if they just mis-measure the salt in a batch of beans or rice or what, but it pretty much ruins the rest of my day.

I've had this happend a few times also.  It is usually in the rice and it is bad. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hillwalking03 on March 02, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
I have also begun cutting back on sodium.  I don't have high blood pressure but my parents suffer from it.  The biggest thing I have come to realize is the only way to cut back is to make things yourself.  Like instead of taco seasoning, mix the separate ingredients together (garlic, cumin, chili chowder, paprika, crushed red pepper, etc).  Instead of beans from a can, by bags of dry beans then soak them in water over night.  Homemade spaghetti sauce from real tomatoes, etc.  Its a bit of work at first, but once you do it, it gets easier, and you start making things in bulk and then freezing them, like sauces.  Also, the help, when you are cooking yourself and feel the need to add salt, use sea salt or rock salt, a little of that goes a lot farther than table salt.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2010, 02:23:14 PM
ya i noticed taco seasoning is really bad.  would feel elite to make my own taco seasoning.  i'm not too far from Mexico Chopper in KC, they make fresh tortillas daily, they're great.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2010, 02:26:25 PM
Sodium levels actually run very low in my family.  My moms has to take in extra salt on Dr's orders.  Pretty great knowing I won't have to worry about this.  But, high triglycerides.  Trans fat is basically the devil for those apparently. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: OK_Cat on March 02, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
Sodium levels actually run very low in my family.  My moms has to take in extra salt on Dr's orders.  Pretty great knowing I won't have to worry about this.  But, high triglycerides.  Trans fat is basically the devil for those apparently. 

Hey, bro, my box of cheez-its say "no trans fats" so you always have those.   :love:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hillwalking03 on March 02, 2010, 02:31:13 PM
ya i noticed taco seasoning is really bad.  would feel elite to make my own taco seasoning.  i'm not too far from Mexico Chopper in KC, they make fresh tortillas daily, they're great.

The Mexican Price Chopper's tortillas are elite.  Have 1/4 of a package in my fridge waiting on some adobo pork this weekend.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: CHONGS on March 02, 2010, 02:31:23 PM
Here's a helpful hint from Chingon:

Adding acid to food can act as a pretty solid salt replacer.  Try adding a squeeze of lime or lemon.  It works magic on beans, meats, and vegetables.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: slimz on March 02, 2010, 06:31:52 PM
ya i noticed taco seasoning is really bad.  would feel elite to make my own taco seasoning.  i'm not too far from Mexico Chopper in KC, they make fresh tortillas daily, they're great.

The Mexican Price Chopper's tortillas are elite.  Have 1/4 of a package in my fridge waiting on some adobo pork this weekend.

Place has the best produce, too.  It's about 5 minutes away from my pad.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2010, 07:20:02 PM
Here's a helpful hint from Chingon:

Adding acid to food can act as a pretty solid salt replacer.  Try adding a squeeze of lime or lemon.  It works magic on beans, meats, and vegetables.
here's teh thing about acid, i can't take it every time i want to get a bite to eat bro.  we're not all in college anymore.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on March 02, 2010, 09:14:36 PM
I go down to Orscheln's every other week to get me another salt lick for my nightstand.  Nothing like a hankering for a hunk of salt at 3 am.  :lick:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 02, 2010, 09:47:06 PM
i love salt fellas. you know what i don't really like? sweets. prob a topic for a diffy thread, but i'll talk a salty snack over a sweet snack any day. you can take chocolate and shove it straight up your ass. know what i'm saying guys?

good luck w/ the salt stuff clams.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on March 03, 2010, 07:27:45 AM
i love salt fellas. you know what i don't really like? sweets. prob a topic for a diffy thread, but i'll talk a salty snack over a sweet snack any day. you can take chocolate and shove it straight up your ass. know what i'm saying guys?

good luck w/ the salt stuff clams.

Yeah, sugar can GTFOOMF!  Nachos can GTFITMM!
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on March 03, 2010, 08:07:12 AM
i love salt fellas. you know what i don't really like? sweets. prob a topic for a diffy thread, but i'll talk a salty snack over a sweet snack any day. you can take chocolate and shove it straight up your ass. know what i'm saying guys?

good luck w/ the salt stuff clams.
snacks.  LMAO.   snacks are for kids.  if you knew anything about my diet you would know that i cut out most sugar (except for the sugar that occurs naturally in my food) a long time ago.  hey snackface fatty- take a hike, LMAO. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 08:09:41 AM
Only sweets I eat is ice cream, and I might have that once a week.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: ew2x4 on March 03, 2010, 09:33:44 AM
Have you guys heard of Hansen's soda? Has no sodium, no preservatives, no corn syrup, etc. Pretty good stuff too.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on March 03, 2010, 09:40:14 AM
Have you guys heard of Hansen's soda? Has no sodium, no preservatives, no corn syrup, etc. Pretty good stuff too.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_b-0OjVN4PZI%2FSNNIygq-0II%2FAAAAAAAAADY%2Fian_dze6QWs%2Fs320%2Fsoylent.jpg&hash=4968492d01bd8fd9e378417021810c8d9067ad1c)
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 03, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
jfc. next we are going to have a thread on prostate check up's and how often is too often.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2010, 10:17:03 PM
http://www.slashfood.com/2010/06/17/like-things-salty-you-might-be-a-supertaster/

Remember the old potato chip slogan, "No one can eat just one"? Well, it turns out there may be a granule of scientific truth to that bit of advertising bravado -- for some of us, at least.

According to a study published this week in the journal Physiology & Behavior, some people appear to be genetically hardwired to enjoy saltier foods than others. So-called "supertasters" are people who experience all tastes more intensely (sweet, bitter, salty), and the participants in the study who were identified as supertasters reported eating saltier foods.

"Most of us like the taste of salt," said John Hayes, a food researcher at Penn State and one of the study's authors. "However, some individuals eat more salt, both because they like the taste of saltiness more, and also because it is needed to block other unpleasant tastes in food," such as bitterness.

Hayes describes supertasters as living in "a neon food world," while so-called "nontasters" (do we really need to explain who those poor, taste-bud-deprived folks are?) "live in a pastel food world."

So just when you start to think, "Hey, I want to be a supertaster, where every bite is like a stroll down the Vegas strip," here comes the downer: supertasters' penchant for salt may put them at increased risk for things like heart disease and high blood pressure.

That means that studies like this one could have far-reaching implications for public health policy, especially now that salt seems to have replaced trans fat on the food police's version of America's Most Wanted.

In April, the Food and Drug Administration announced a 10-year initiative to cut the amount of salt in processed foods, which could result in federal limits on just how much sodium that manufacturers can put into everything from spaghetti sauce to ice cream.

But if Hayes and his colleagues are right, there may be some snackers out there who would rather have the government pry that can of Pringles from their cold, dead hands than willingly give up salt.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: jmlynch1 on June 17, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
The worst part of this whole thing is that every time I bite into a delicious Chipotle burrito (which is a lot less often after a horrible experience I had with a Chipotle employee a few months ago) I can't appreciate the fact that Pissclams is enjoying a similar burrito somewhere in this world. :frown:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2010, 10:31:46 PM
The worst part of this whole thing is that every time I bite into a delicious Chipotle burrito (which is a lot less often after a horrible experience I had with a Chipotle employee a few months ago) I can't appreciate the fact that Pissclams is enjoying a similar burrito somewhere in this world. :frown:

Here's the thing....he probably is.  He still eats all that stuff. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2010, 10:42:54 PM
i'm a supertaster guys, sorry...gag me with a spoon :users:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2010, 10:56:48 PM
i'm a supertaster guys, sorry...gag me with a spoon :users:

I am too bro.  There's no saving me either.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on February 01, 2011, 09:43:42 AM
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/215214.php

USDA releases new sodium guidelines

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack states: "The 2010 Dietary Guidelines are being released at a time when the majority of adults and one in three children is overweight or obese and this is a crisis we can no longer ignore. These new and improved dietary recommendations give individuals the information to make thoughtful choices of healthier foods in the right portions and to complement those choices with physical activity. The bottom line is that most Americans need to trim our waistlines to reduce the risk of development diet-related chronic disease. Improving our eating habits is not only good for every individuals and family, but also for our country."


The new guidelines include 23 specific recommendations for the general population and six recommendations for specific groups such as pregnant women.

No one should consume more than 2,300 milligrams of salt per day. Those who are age 51 and older and those who are African American (almost half of the U.S. population) or have high blood pressure, diabetes or chronic kidney disease should consume no more than 1,500 milligrams per day.


Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on February 01, 2011, 09:44:12 AM
One teaspoon of table salt has 2,325 milligrams (mg) of sodium.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pike on February 01, 2011, 10:15:41 AM
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...

This completely ignores life expectancy and it's change.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on February 01, 2011, 10:29:08 AM
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...

This completely ignores life expectancy and it's change.

Also, processed food
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 01, 2011, 10:40:43 AM
Nice job piss. Good to see our papers are starting to get the recognition they deserve.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on February 01, 2011, 10:47:27 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2011, 11:11:04 AM
One teaspoon of table salt has 2,325 milligrams (mg) of sodium.

Wow.  Surprisingly small amt.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hemmy on February 01, 2011, 11:15:37 AM
The problem isn't obesity, it is the way in which it is measured.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Jeffy on February 01, 2011, 12:01:45 PM
We need to outlaw Hutchinson.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pike on February 01, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
We need to outlaw Hutchinson.

Free market will take care of them
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 19, 2011, 09:18:44 PM
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/lifestyle/food/new-report-reveals-a-number-of-foods-with-surprisingly-high-levels-of-salt

:dunno:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hemmy on May 19, 2011, 10:58:01 PM
I always feel sad when I eat a bunch of pizza that has like a week's worth of sodium
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: 06wildcat on May 19, 2011, 10:58:48 PM
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/lifestyle/food/new-report-reveals-a-number-of-foods-with-surprisingly-high-levels-of-salt

:dunno:

I rough ridin' hate this country. Slim Jims contain a surprisingly high level of salt? Didn't look at the full list, but was salt pork on there as well?
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: slimz on May 20, 2011, 12:17:05 AM
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/lifestyle/food/new-report-reveals-a-number-of-foods-with-surprisingly-high-levels-of-salt

:dunno:

I rough ridin' hate this country. Slim Jims contain a surprisingly high level of salt? Didn't look at the full list, but was salt pork on there as well?

 :D

Also, cheese, chicken noodle soup, and cold cuts are on there as well.  I thought those were all notorious for high sodium.

The one that shocked me when I learned about it was flour tortillas. Thank goodness for corn tortillas. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: OregonSmock on May 20, 2011, 12:31:30 AM
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...



Humans have been dying from heart disease for a long time as well...


 :ck:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 20, 2011, 12:54:50 AM
Quote from: pike link=topic=1626.msg2239p52#msg223952 date=1296576941
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...



Humans have been dying from heart disease for a long time as well...


 :ck:

Also, the average human eats on average a "crap load" more sodium than they did fifty years ago.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2011, 08:05:47 AM
Quote from: pike link=topic=1626.msg2239p52#msg223952 date=1296576941
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...



Humans have been dying from heart disease for a long time as well...


 :ck:

Also, the average human eats on average a "crap load" more sodium than they did fifty years ago.
processed foods  :frown:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on May 20, 2011, 08:31:03 AM
Quote from: pike link=topic=1626.msg2239p52#msg223952 date=1296576941
I know the last few years people have showed that sodium is like really bad for you and stuff, but humans have been eating it for a long time...



Humans have been dying from heart disease for a long time as well...


 :ck:

Also, the average human eats on average a "crap load" more sodium than they did fifty years ago.
processed foods  :frown:

This, It's crazy how much sodium is in stuff that comes in a can/jar/frozen aisle.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hemmy on May 20, 2011, 10:03:40 AM
I just calculated it and my average food intake I get about 1,200 mg of sodium daily, but sometimes I get like 5,000 or something crazy.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2011, 12:42:59 PM
I just calculated it and my average food intake I get about 1,200 mg of sodium daily, but sometimes I get like 5,000 or something crazy.
that's about how i am.  i try to stay around 7-800 on the regular but then go and eat a whole pepperoni pizza and blow it out of the water.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: nicname on May 22, 2011, 09:12:23 PM
Salt is pretty weird.  It is really hard on like 1 in 10 people, but doesn't really effect most people.  That's why if someone has High BP the doc will be like, "try a low sodium diet, blah blah."  if it helps then they stick with it.  If not, then salt wasn't the problem. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2011, 09:41:54 PM
Salt is pretty weird.  It is really hard on like 1 in 10 people, but doesn't really effect most people.  That's why if someone has High BP the doc will be like, "try a low sodium diet, blah blah."  if it helps then they stick with it.  If not, then salt wasn't the problem. 
:flush:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: 'taterblast on May 22, 2011, 09:55:26 PM
this thread has led me to the conclusion that i am mumped.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 22, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
glad nicname came by and ended this stupid thread.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hemmy on May 22, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
I looked up the nutrition info for XL dominos specialty pizzas yesterday.  Don't eat those, you will die within 24 hours.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2011, 10:59:17 PM
glad nicname came by and ended this stupid thread.
sure thing, saltboy.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: mcmwcat on May 23, 2011, 09:54:18 AM
anyone know if human's need NaCl to live and propogate?
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2011, 10:19:30 AM
anyone know if human's need NaCl to live and propogate?

just sent this question verbatim to goEMAW team physician.  her response: 

Quote from:  goEMAW team physician
What?  Yes...cells need it"
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on May 23, 2011, 10:39:49 AM
Lots of fat bloated water retaining people around here.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: hemmy on May 27, 2011, 10:32:45 AM
http://douglassreport.com/2010/12/08/truth-about-salt/
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
http://douglassreport.com/2010/12/08/truth-about-salt/

sodium, in moderation, is good.  similar to greed.
the problem is trying to maintain a low sodium diet.  because of greed.  the remaining 6 slices of that large pizza demand to be eaten.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Kat Kid on May 27, 2011, 04:10:23 PM
http://douglassreport.com/2010/12/08/truth-about-salt/

sodium, in moderation, is good.  similar to greed.
the problem is trying to maintain a low sodium diet.  because of greed.  the remaining 6 slices of that large pizza demand to be eaten.

shuttle count as large?
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on May 27, 2011, 04:53:03 PM
http://douglassreport.com/2010/12/08/truth-about-salt/

sodium, in moderation, is good.  similar to greed.
the problem is trying to maintain a low sodium diet.  because of greed.  the remaining 6 slices of that large pizza demand to be eaten.

shuttle count as large?

no, but your face does.     B00/v\
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Kat Kid on May 27, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
http://douglassreport.com/2010/12/08/truth-about-salt/

sodium, in moderation, is good.  similar to greed.
the problem is trying to maintain a low sodium diet.  because of greed.  the remaining 6 slices of that large pizza demand to be eaten.

shuttle count as large?


no, but your face does.     B00/v\

You shot for the moon with that one, too bad you ended up among the acid rain clouds and I have the whole moon on my own face forever you have just been served.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 27, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
piss, we need to publish again.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_MindBodyNews/salty-diet-bad-brains/story?id=14371665 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_MindBodyNews/salty-diet-bad-brains/story?id=14371665)

salt bad for brain, clams wins again.   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2011, 04:38:43 PM
sodium strikes again.  WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU'RE BEING POISONED!!
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: chum1 on August 25, 2011, 05:10:12 PM
lately, i've been salting the crap out of my food.  it's great.   and a status symbol, i believe.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 26, 2011, 06:06:12 AM
sodium strikes again.  WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU'RE BEING POISONED!!
So if you eat Chipotle, do you just go on a two week salt fast afterwards, or something?
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on August 26, 2011, 06:34:02 AM
lately, i've been salting the crap out of my food.  it's great.   and a status symbol, i believe.

don't think that's as big a deal
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on August 26, 2011, 08:15:54 AM
sodium strikes again.  WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU'RE BEING POISONED!!
So if you eat Chipotle, do you just go on a two week salt fast afterwards, or something?

no.  chipotle only carries 80% of my recommended daily.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on August 26, 2011, 09:52:57 AM
Where is most of the salt in chipotle?  rice?  salsa?

Tortuga pls advise.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on August 26, 2011, 10:35:35 AM
tortilla 670 mg
hot salsa 510 mg
chicken 370 mg (barbacoa 510 mg, carnitas 590 mg, steak 320 mg)
cheese 180 mg
sour cream 30 mg


Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on August 26, 2011, 10:36:57 AM
tortilla 670 mg
hot salsa 510 mg
chicken 370 mg (barbacoa 510 mg, carnitas 590 mg, steak 320 mg)
cheese 180 mg
sour cream 30 mg

holy crap
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: EllToPay on August 26, 2011, 11:05:21 AM
tortilla 670 mg
hot salsa 510 mg
chicken 370 mg (barbacoa 510 mg, carnitas 590 mg, steak 320 mg)
cheese 180 mg
sour cream 30 mg




What about:

Steak
Cheese
Rice
Lettuce
Mild
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: jmlynch1 on September 01, 2011, 09:59:12 AM
tortilla 670 mg
hot salsa 510 mg
chicken 370 mg (barbacoa 510 mg, carnitas 590 mg, steak 320 mg)
cheese 180 mg
sour cream 30 mg




What about:

Steak
Cheese
Rice
Lettuce
Mild
Def. a shitload in the lettuce
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on September 02, 2011, 11:16:28 AM
Had a meeting today about a recent American Journal of Health study about sodium. They're saying now that it's only good to reduce salt if you already have a history of high blood pressure. If your blood pressure is fine, salt (reasonably consumed) has no ill effects. In fact, they say that people who have normal blood pressure and eat a reduced sodium diet, have higher mortality rates.

Campbells Corporation announced they are adding salt back into their healthy option line of soups, also.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Had a meeting today about a recent American Journal of Health study about sodium. They're saying now that it's only good to reduce salt if you already have a history of high blood pressure. If your blood pressure is fine, salt (reasonably consumed) has no ill effects. In fact, they say that people who have normal blood pressure and eat a reduced sodium diet, have higher mortality rates.

Campbells Corporation announced they are adding salt back into their healthy option line of soups, also.
this message brought to you by salt.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on September 02, 2011, 12:54:04 PM
Had a meeting today about a recent American Journal of Health study about sodium. They're saying now that it's only good to reduce salt if you already have a history of high blood pressure. If your blood pressure is fine, salt (reasonably consumed) has no ill effects. In fact, they say that people who have normal blood pressure and eat a reduced sodium diet, have higher mortality rates.

Campbells Corporation announced they are adding salt back into their healthy option line of soups, also.
this message brought to you by salt.

this sarcasm brought to you by someone not in the know
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 01:04:59 PM
Had a meeting today about a recent American Journal of Health study about sodium. They're saying now that it's only good to reduce salt if you already have a history of high blood pressure. If your blood pressure is fine, salt (reasonably consumed) has no ill effects. In fact, they say that people who have normal blood pressure and eat a reduced sodium diet, have higher mortality rates.

Campbells Corporation announced they are adding salt back into their healthy option line of soups, also.
this message brought to you by salt.

this sarcasm brought to you by someone not in the know
your comment is pretty sarcastic.  i'm sure you learned a lot in biology last semester but this is one of those threads where you should  just take the advice given and let the big kids talk. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on September 02, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
Had a meeting today about a recent American Journal of Health study about sodium. They're saying now that it's only good to reduce salt if you already have a history of high blood pressure. If your blood pressure is fine, salt (reasonably consumed) has no ill effects. In fact, they say that people who have normal blood pressure and eat a reduced sodium diet, have higher mortality rates.

Campbells Corporation announced they are adding salt back into their healthy option line of soups, also.
this message brought to you by salt.

this sarcasm brought to you by someone not in the know
your comment is pretty sarcastic.  i'm sure you learned a lot in biology last semester but this is one of those threads where you should  just take the advice given and let the big kids talk. 

well i figure when i want cell phone advice i'll go to a guy who works at sprint. when someone wants food advice, they should probably listen to a food scientist/nutritionist
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 01:25:31 PM
ok food scientist/nutritionist, well i figure that when i need advice on dietary limits, i will listen to the mayo clinic.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/war-on-salt/MY01674

http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2009-mchi/5494.html

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sodium/NU00284

i don't advocate cutting salt out of your diet completely, as i recognize it is an essential need of our bodies.  what most people don't realize is how much sodium they actually consume and its potential negative effects on their body.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2011, 01:26:25 PM
my MD told me I can have all the salt I want because I have good genes
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 01:27:28 PM
then salt the eff up, cowboy.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on September 02, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
I never said you should go ape crap with the salt. I said they've discovered that it doesn't need to be as reduced as much as most people think and that people with normal blood pressure don't need to worry about it.


Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: kitten_mittons on September 02, 2011, 01:53:34 PM
I never said you should go ape crap with the salt. I said they've discovered that it doesn't need to be as reduced as much as most people think and that people with normal blood pressure don't need to worry about it.



So you're saying just eating the recommended amount of sodium is not unhealthy for you?
Wow.  Incredible research.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 02:20:51 PM
I never said you should go ape crap with the salt. I said they've discovered that it doesn't need to be as reduced as much as most people think and that people with normal blood pressure don't need to worry about it.



So you're saying just eating the recommended amount of sodium is not unhealthy for you?
Wow.  Incredible research.

yup, between this and bonercat telling me that if sprint spends all of their cash that they will be cash poor, i think i've heard a Phd in BBS today.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on September 02, 2011, 02:49:59 PM
No, i'm saying that you don't have to reduce your sodium like they were recommending you do. New research has shown that, to an extent, you can eat as much sodium as you please and that cutting out sodium has risks to your health.

By your arguments, people should still be staying away from eggs because of cholesterol. Even though they've determined that the cholesterol in the yolks is good and actually beneficial.

  
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 04:05:42 PM
No, i'm saying that you don't have to reduce your sodium like they were recommending you do. New research has shown that, to an extent, you can eat as much sodium as you please and that cutting out sodium has risks to your health.

By your arguments, people should still be staying away from eggs because of cholesterol. Even though they've determined that the cholesterol in the yolks is good and actually beneficial.

 
that wasn't my argument at all.  fwiw, i eat a shitload of eggs, my physician and i are way ahead of your cholesterol in the yolks data.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: kitten_mittons on September 02, 2011, 04:18:06 PM
No, i'm saying that you don't have to reduce your sodium like they were recommending you do. New research has shown that, to an extent, you can eat as much sodium as you please and that cutting out sodium has risks to your health.

By your arguments, people should still be staying away from eggs because of cholesterol. Even though they've determined that the cholesterol in the yolks is good and actually beneficial.

 
that wasn't my argument at all.  fwiw, i eat a shitload of eggs, my physician and i are way ahead of your cholesterol in the yolks data.
Did you know it's not unhealthy to eat the recommended amount of eggs?
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Trim on October 20, 2011, 08:33:25 AM
http://health.msn.com/healthy-living/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100281124&gt1=31036
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on October 20, 2011, 08:47:06 AM
http://health.msn.com/healthy-living/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100281124&gt1=31036

 :cheers:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Johnny Wichita on October 20, 2011, 08:49:27 AM
http://health.msn.com/healthy-living/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100281124&gt1=31036

Summary:  Clams gets clownsuited.... again. 


 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
http://health.msn.com/healthy-living/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100281124&gt1=31036

feel free to start a thread about iodine, this thread is about sodium.  wow.  :lol: 

dumbass alert!
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2011, 08:59:26 AM
welp

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/03/salt.heart.attack/index.html
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bakerman on October 20, 2011, 09:03:34 AM
welp

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/03/salt.heart.attack/index.html

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 20, 2011, 09:08:44 AM
thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Cire on October 20, 2011, 09:16:05 AM
Been nice knowing you clams
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Johnny Wichita on October 20, 2011, 09:23:45 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2011, 10:22:46 AM
Quote
For starters, the participants' sodium consumption was gauged by measuring the sodium content of their urine over just one 24-hour period at the beginning of the study. Although this method is considered the gold standard for estimating sodium intake, that lone urine test may not provide an accurate snapshot of the participants' everyday intake over the full eight-year study, as the researchers themselves note.

 :shy:

Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2011, 10:24:01 AM
that has to make you feel better.  seriously though, see your MD immediately.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: pissclams on October 20, 2011, 10:30:42 AM
salt the crap out of your food guys, go crazy with it.  i'm being serious. 
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 20, 2011, 10:33:24 AM
a little over a year ago i started keeping salt packets in one of my work desk drawers and once or twice a day i'll open one up and just pour it into my mouth. i have doing this just because i like the taste of it but now i know it's making me healthier as well. what a treat.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: Fldermaus on March 02, 2015, 01:10:19 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/02/lacey-spears-verdict/24262509/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/02/lacey-spears-verdict/24262509/)

Death by salt poisoning, what a horrible way to go.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: bubbles4ksu on March 02, 2015, 01:52:03 PM
can someone else please find fff and 'clams' publishings? i'm bad at google scholar.
Title: Re: i'm becoming an anti-sodiumite
Post by: meow meow on March 02, 2015, 04:50:20 PM
a little over a year ago i started keeping salt packets in one of my work desk drawers and once or twice a day i'll open one up and just pour it into my mouth. i have doing this just because i like the taste of it but now i know it's making me healthier as well. what a treat.

try sucking it or snorting it up your nose with a dollar bill rolled up.  it will get into your blood stream faster and, as a result, increase your health faster.  at least that's what my doctor recommends.