Post by: Andy on March 01, 2010, 02:54:09 PM
Post by: Testy Westy on March 01, 2010, 02:55:53 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on March 01, 2010, 02:59:18 PM
it's a coin toss. but we're not going to be tied, so don't worry about it.
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 01, 2010, 03:27:15 PM
:facepalm:
it's a coin toss. but we're not going to be tied, so don't worry about it.
okie, don't you know that we are suddenly going to stop being k-state and that God himself informed Andy that murphy's law will no longer apply to us
Post by: Andy on March 01, 2010, 05:00:53 PM
:facepalm:
it's a coin toss. but we're not going to be tied, so don't worry about it.
okie, don't you know that we are suddenly going to stop being k-state and that God himself informed Andy that murphy's law will no longer apply to us
don't expect it, but was curious anyway
Post by: Skipper44 on March 01, 2010, 06:11:43 PM
Post by: dmartin on March 02, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2010, 11:41:00 AM
that's because the draw order is set alphabetically by default.
So Kansas State is before Kansas alphabetically :confused: don't breed
Post by: OK_Cat on March 02, 2010, 11:50:07 AM
Post by: dmartin on March 02, 2010, 01:25:18 PM
that's because the draw order is set alphabetically by default.
So Kansas State is before Kansas alphabetically :confused: don't breed
According to them, yes. Notice OKState comes before Oklahoma, and both tech and ATM come before Texas.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 02, 2010, 01:48:51 PM
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2019, 08:16:27 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 07, 2019, 08:56:26 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 07, 2019, 09:02:38 AM
Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:
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Each team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.
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When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games. In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.
Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.
Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.
But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.
Post by: catastrophe on March 07, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
Post by: meow meow on March 07, 2019, 09:15:22 AM
Post by: Justwin on March 07, 2019, 09:58:13 AM
QuoteWhen arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games. In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.
But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 againstTechIowa State, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.
I think you meant Baylor went 2-0 against Iowa State to break that tie.
Post by: 8manpick on March 07, 2019, 09:58:30 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 07, 2019, 10:50:19 AM
I think you meant Baylor went 2-0 against Iowa State to break that tie.
Good catch. Fixed that above.
Post by: brandochav on March 07, 2019, 11:36:41 AM
Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.Appreciate this write up.
Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:QuoteEach team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.QuoteWhen arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games. In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.
Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.
Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.
But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.
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Post by: Harry Dunne on March 07, 2019, 09:20:07 PM
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Post by: mocat on March 07, 2019, 09:32:52 PM
Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.
Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:QuoteEach team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.QuoteWhen arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games. In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.
Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.
Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.
But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.
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Post by: MakeItRain on March 08, 2019, 08:12:33 AM
Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.
Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:QuoteEach team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.QuoteWhen arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games. In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.
Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.
Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.
But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.
My God, lol
Post by: PurpleOil on March 08, 2019, 01:03:40 PM