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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Gooch on October 28, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
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On 610 now. See you in Wichita bad person. :shakesfist:
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A disgusting human being.
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Love that man.
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Anyone who claims to love Huggins because he contributed to the turnaround of K-State basketball can go to hell. He had nothing to do with it. We turned around in spite of him.
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If I were in his shoes I would have done the same thing.
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If I were in his shoes I would have done the same thing.
if you were in his shoes, you'd be wearing an bad person's shoes
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people are still butthurt about huggins leaving? Baffling.
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people are still butthurt about huggins leaving? Baffling.
No, I'm still butthurt about dumbasses attributing any of our success to him.
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Anyone who claims to love Huggins because he contributed to the turnaround of K-State basketball can go to hell. He had nothing to do with it. We turned around in spite of him.
Hate to re-kindle this boring fire, but 'in spite'? Are you stubbornly forgetting who was primarily or secondarily responsible for bringing Frank, Dalonte, Mike, Bill, Jake, et al., here? Had he not accepted our offer we would have just recently hired Neckbrace 3.0 this offseason.
Love the vids. Big fan. KIT.
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Anyone who claims to love Huggins because he contributed to the turnaround of K-State basketball can go to hell. He had nothing to do with it. We turned around in spite of him.
Yes. Weird that functioning humans can't distinguish his actions from the results of his actions.
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Huggins played a huge role in the return of our program and I carry no ill will towards him. :teamhugginsisalrightwithme:
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Huggins played a huge role in the return of our program and I carry no ill will towards him. :teamhugginsisalrightwithme:
Only 100% certified dumbasses would thank Huggins for our success. You are thanking Huggins for trying to destroy our program but failing. It would be like a jew after the holocaust thanking Hitler for trying to kill them but failing.
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Did Hitler give the Jews Beas, Walker, and Pullen?
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Did Hitler give the Jews Beas, Walker, and Pullen?
He tried to steal them and failed. You need to thank Hill and Martin you stupid dumbass.
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Who brought Frank and Hill here? (And Greenie and Undy)
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:lol:
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Who brought Frank and Hill here? (And Greenie and Undy)
He tried to take them too dumbass. Thanks for failing Huggs!
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Yeah, you're probably right. If it wasn't for that damn Huggins, our b-ball team would be so legit right now! :shakesfist:
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Really need Pete and zacker to drop some analogies here.
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it's more like when napoleon occupied spain and portugal for a time, then withdrew, than when hitler tried to kill all the jews and only partially succeeded.
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It's like Pinochet restoring democracy to Chile. Any good renovation project is inevitably going to include a little playful authoritarianism, some justified looting, and a handful of desaparecidos. And look where they are today! You all sound like some ungrateful Chilean orphans.
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here's a thought. how about we refrain from giving huggins credit, acknowledge that we'd likely be worse off had it not been for the huggins/te/beasley chain of events, and not be butthurt about him leaving all at the same time?
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Maybe the joke is going over my head, but at the risk of showing my ignorance, I believe huggs would have given a job to each of his assistants and a scholy to each of his recruits if they couldn't continue to pursue either of those things at ksu.
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Frank saw Huggy's cards and Go Fished his ass. It worked out wonderfully for Kansas State and Frank and it came at the expense of Huggs. Clearly Huggs would've torched us if he could've, but we bested him.
Be happy morons, we're winning and you don't even know it because you're all too busy going back for a second helping of Snyder sauce.
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I love Huggins because he came here and then even more because he left giving birth to EMAW FRANK MARTIN. I still wear the welcome to huggieville tshirt.
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but it was such a difficult decision for him to leave
but seriously, #teamhuggs
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i dont blame Huggs for anything.
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I don't have a problem with anything that happened, but that doesn't mean I don't want the opportunity to boo the crap out of him in the OOD. Booing is fun.
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Stevesie, Pete, LSOC, EMAWgeddon, and anyone else attending MOAP2.5 - none of you are retards on this issue, right?
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I'm going to keep liking Bob Huggins because I have always liked him.
His gold chains in the 1900s were amazing.
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BTW Trim, i'll be in ta town this weekend. New philly who lives there. Let me know if you're paking!
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like Snyder i both love and hate tHuggins
#FYBS
#FYBH
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My big issue with hating Huggins is that a K-State fan can't do it without coming off as butthurt. I'm not willing to pay that price.
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Stevesie, Pete, LSOC, EMAWgeddon, and anyone else attending MOAP2.5 - none of you are retards on this issue, right?
#teamnotretard
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Stevesie, Pete, LSOC, EMAWgeddon, and anyone else attending MOAP2.5 - none of you are retards on this issue, right?
c'mon dude. I would anger up the face of the ghost of Tex Winter if I felt so inclined. Huggs will take the brunt of my righteous indignation.
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Up next with BITB
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:love: Huggins! Thanks for sparing us from articles like this!
MANHATTAN --- Championship banners once hung from the roof of Bramlage Coliseum before a decorative motif was painted along the upper rim to trumpet the titles Kansas State has won in basketball. Unfortunately for the Wildcats, the change wasn't made because they had run out of ceiling space.
More than a quarter-century has passed since Kansas State captured its last conference championship in 1977. That team went on to claim the first Big Eight postseason tournament, then reached the second round of the NCAA Tournament before losing a controversial 67-66 decision to eventual champion Marquette.
Last year marked the 25th anniversary of that conference championship. It came and went with no reunion.
"We haven't ever gotten together again. We probably need to," said Mike Evans, a junior guard who led the Wildcats with a 20.2-point average.
When Evans was asked to remember K-State's last league title, he laughed, he beamed, he even chortled. Yet there also was a trace of sadness. That season, Dean Harris should have been a senior. A promising 6- foot-8 forward who averaged almost eight points as a freshman, Harris was killed in an automobile crash in the summer of 1974.
Another car crash in London claimed the life of Larry Dassie, a senior forward on the 1976-77 team, after Dassie had gone on to play professionally overseas.
"Dassie, of that group, was my best friend," Evans said.
Then too there was the curious disappearance of Curtis Redding, a brash, vibrant freshman who broke on the scene by averaging 16.6 points and earning newcomer of the year honors in the Big Eight. Redding played with Evans again the following season, then left with the assistant who brought him, Mark Reiner, and transferred to St. John's.
"I haven't talked to Curtis since he left," said Evans, who has spoken with people close to Redding who say the two-year wonder is now teaching in New York.
Together, Redding, Dassie and senior center Daryl Winston made up a frontline in which all three measured only 6-foot-5. Scott Langton, a Manhattan junior, was the 5-11 point guard. The 6-1 Evans started every game he played at K-State, pouring in 30 points in his debut before leaving as the program's all-time leading scorer.
"Nobody thought we could win the Big Eight because we were small. We didn't have the tall bruisers," Evans said.
Despite going undefeated over the second half of the conference schedule, skeptics remained going into the postseason tournament. But the Cats rallied from a huge deficit in the final to beat Missouri and claim both trophies that season.
"That's the most important thing you can do is win your league," Evans said. "We had to go to Kansas City and get the (NCAA) bid. So once you're able to separate yourself from everybody the first time, then do it again, there can be no doubt about who you are as a team."
Others who followed Evans and joined him on the All-Century team, which Kansas State fans named in conjunction with the centennial season for the program, tried mightily.
"We finished second every year to that danged Missouri team," said Ed Nealy, a power forward who came to K-State the season after Evans left.
Before Nealy was introduced as an All-Century pick at halftime of K-State's game with Missouri on March 1, he looked to see if former Tiger star Jon Sundvold was working as the TV analyst.
"I was hoping Sundvold might be up here so I could throw something at him," Nealy joked of his former NBA teammate. "We had such a rivalry with Missouri then."
These days, the rivalries have grown dormant.
K-State has not finished even second in a conference race since 1988, the year it reached the Midwest Regional final but lost to Kansas.
Now, KU's win streaks against K-State are 26 games overall, nine in Lawrence and 20 in Manhattan.
The sunflower is wilting in that showdown, especially after Roy Williams just claimed his ninth conference title in 15 seasons as KU coach.
"They went to the Big 12 and instead of getting easier it got tougher," said Nealy, who now lives in San Antonio. "K-State's a special place to get somebody to come play. My wife (DeAnn), coming out here for the first time, asked, 'Why would you build a university in the middle of nowhere?"
"Well, it was good for me, but you've got to find that special player who will work hard, and if you can get a bunch of them, you can do some things."
Tex Winter was a coach who did some things.
His first recruit as a K-State assistant was Ernie Barrett, the oldest member of the All-Century team. Winter later served as head coach for 15 seasons from 1954-68. His 262-117 mark included eight of the conference championships that seem so completely out of grasp today.
When Jim Wooldridge was hired as K-State's coach, he was recommended by Winter. They coached together one season with the Chicago Bulls and Wooldridge, after using the triangle offense before, learned even more pointers from its inventor.
Now, it is by Winter's legacy at K-State that Wooldridge is judged, to some extent.
"Tradition can put some pressure on the current staff, very definitely," Winter said. "But at the same time I think it can help 'em. They've got a lot to live up to."
Five roadblocks for Kansas State
It's been 26 years since the Kansas State last won a conference championship, and while there have been some signs of a recovery, the Wildcats still are near the bottom of the Big 12 looking up. Here are five factors impeding their climb back to prominence:
TRADITION
Yes, the glory days of Kansas State are fun to recall. The introduction of the All-Century team at the Missouri game on March 1 elicited some of the loudest cheers ever heard in Bramlage Coliseum. But it is tough to rebuild a program if the bar is raised too high. Remember, K-State was once great, but its last trip to the Final Four was in 1964.
TELEVISION
Click the remote and a basketball almost pops out the screen and hits your face. The game is on almost every night, yet Kansas State does not receive a large share of coverage. That hurts whatever identity K-State can create with recruits, and also reduces familiarity among potential fans. Until the Cats improve, there's nothing big about Monday. It's just another practice day in Manhattan.
ROCK CHALK
Forever, Kansas was a program Kansas State had to battle for state pride, conference championships and NCAA Tournament berths. But the Jayhawks have separated themselves as one of the country's elite programs. It is hard playing in KU's shadow, especially when the Jayhawks have won 20 straight in Manhattan. Many set the bar at KU's level, which is unfair.
CLOSE CALLS
Somehow, some way, Kansas State must learn how to win its share of close games. The fact it has lost a huge majority of its games by single digits this season proves it can play with Big 12 opponents. But good teams, and good coaches, win close games. Before this season, Jim Wooldridge was 10-9 at K-State in games decided by six points (two 3-pointers) or less. This season he is 0-5.
BRAMLAGE BLUES
Of the 10 legends named to K-State's All-Century team, only one, Steve Henson, ever played in Bramlage Coliseum. If K-State ever wins consistently, Bramlage will be full, loud and proud. Until then, the gym will often be half-full at best, and with no upper deck to hide empty seats, it looks and feels awful. Especially for a mid-week loss to Baylor.
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there is going to be so much mumbling from huggin during their post game show.
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heh, so that's where Eshaunte Jones ended up. good get NK.
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ALERT: Students
$10 tickets* - http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/110711aab.html
*does not include cost of MOAP'n, which is $0.
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