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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: chum1 on October 24, 2011, 09:25:14 AM
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for ou. rape us with the deep ball. is landry a better thrower than jacory? dear lord, i hope not.
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for ou. rape us with the deep ball. is landry a better thrower than jacory? dear lord, i hope not.
Not better than RG3 or Doege. May be better than Jacory.
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i'm worried about matching up with their receivers. solid group, pretty scary. I would have worried about their defense, but the past few weeks they've looked meh.
our redzone defense vs. their redzone offense is advantage KSU, which is weird.
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for ou. rape us with the deep ball. is landry a better thrower than jacory? dear lord, i hope not.
Not better than RG3 or Doege. May be better than Jacory.
we're talking deep ball here, not gimmicky spread. you know, over the top. like miami and ou.
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the gimmicky spread is much easier to stop than a well oiled pro style deep ball offense.
Hartman will get burnt at least 4 or 5 times unless we have him lining up WAY deep which just leaves the middle of the field vulnerable.
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what happened to 2Y in the second half? :confused:
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the gimmicky spread is much easier to stop than a well oiled pro style deep ball offense.
Hartman will get burnt at least 4 or 5 times unless we have him lining up WAY deep which just leaves the middle of the field vulnerable.
exactly, emaw4ljhl. i mean, even if landry isn't worse than jacory overall, maybe he will be on saturday. that's all we really need.
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the gimmicky spread is much easier to stop than a well oiled pro style deep ball offense.
Hartman will get burnt at least 4 or 5 times unless we have him lining up WAY deep which just leaves the middle of the field vulnerable.
exactly, emaw4ljhl. i mean, even if landry isn't worse than jacory overall, maybe he will be on saturday. that's all we really need.
too bad coming off an embarrassing loss they'll be focused/pissed which = not good for EMAWland
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for ou. rape us with the deep ball. is landry a better thrower than jacory? dear lord, i hope not.
Is he better than Jacory? Absolutely...they're more deadly in the vertical passing game than Miami. But what set up Jacory? Miami's threat of a running game.
Trust me, we're far less concerned about OU's running game than we were about Miami's. Miami's OL is better than OU's and Whaley/Finch aren't in the same universe as Lamar Miller and Mike James.
So....will our safeties be as close to the LOS as the Miami game? No. Even so OU's vertical passing game scares the hell out of me. Broyles up the seam and Stills down the sidelines is how they go and they're damn good at it.
We'll blitz more in this game than we have...Landry gets rattled on the road. If we shut down the running game with 5 or 6 and can pop Landry a few times early they'll shy away from using the vertical rts as much.
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They may be focused, but their corners still suck and still can't run the ball. As far as the Miami comparisons, Jones > Harris but they have nobody who can touch Miller.
I look for the Cats to pull out another close one.
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Is he better than Jacory? Absolutely
:ohno:
OU's vertical passing game scares the hell out of me.
:runaway:
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i dont even think tysyn should play this game.
too slow
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Is he better than Jacory? Absolutely
:ohno:
OU's vertical passing game scares the hell out of me.
:runaway:
BUT this isn't the juggernaut that came to town in '04 or '08. Those offenses not only had more leadership but they had running games that could be dominant, alone, without the passing game. That is not the case this time.
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call me crazy but I don't see anyway that OU's LB's stop our running game. i think we'll see a lot of the same thing we saw last week where K-State's superior OL and blocking create too much room for hubert and the chamber.
so just pencil in another key to the game. key: blocking.
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i know this has been discussed ad nauseum but we really new the purple nation to show up and BE LOUD this week. we can rattle the sooners and make a difference on saturday.
if you want to pencil in another key to victory, go ahead and pencil her in: purple nation in attendance, also very loud.
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Can we run a defense that has Malone and Garrett matched up on Stills and Broyles. So we don't let them burn chapman down the seam and have 2 or 12 forget to help over the top?
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Is it too late to convert one of the team burners to defense?
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Don't worry, the scheme will take care of it all. It doesn't matter how fast you can run when the coaches can just tell you where to stand when and the ball will basically intercept itself.
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Is it too late to convert one of the team burners to defense?
yes
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Is it too late to convert one of the team burners to defense?
Baby Lockett was also a ball-hawking DB in highschool. :dunno:
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Don't worry, the scheme will take care of it all. It doesn't matter how fast you can run when the coaches can just tell you where to stand when and the ball will basically intercept itself.
Scheme Doctor has identified the same feature that all horror film monsters have in being able to walk at a comfortable pace yet catch up to the protagonists who are running around scared as crap. :runaway:
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This is beautiful, btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4)
Far more concerned about him deep than Broyles although nervous about tackling Broyles underneath so he doesn't pop one because he's pretty good after the catch.
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Chapman is the weak link. I'm guessing he will play significant time and that scares me. We have played so much base d this year, when we do blitz it seems to work well. Jones with time scares me as well. All this said, should be a cakewalk.
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This is beautiful, btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4)
Far more concerned about him deep than Broyles although nervous about tackling Broyles underneath so he doesn't pop one because he's pretty good after the catch.
Loved the first pump at 0:08.
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Landry will make some poor decisions if given the opportunity. If we take care of the ball ourselves, we may be able to +2 on turnovers, which would help our efforts quite a bit. Our d-backs need to stay with their receivers even when Landry gets chased, because he is always looking to pass on the run. Sometimes he makes big plays; sometimes he makes a poor throw.
Their o-line will make mistakes. While they're big and athletic, they're also not as smart as a lot of o-lines. They make the wrong blocks a fair amount of time. Our d-line should have an opportunity there to contribute with a few big plays.
Even though we've already seen high pace with Baylor and Tech, we're going to see it again, at least as fast as before. Guys gotta be ready for those quick snaps.
Like Hatter said, I'm more concerned with Broyles and the other OU receivers catching the crossing route and making big gains after. They can run away from Hartman and Zimmerman with no problem if those guys aren't in exactly the right spot. Again, key to this game will be our d-backs staying with their guys and making the tackle.
Finally, if they're first and goal inside the 6 or so, whatever they do on first down (run or pass), they will likely do for the next 2 or 3 downs, as well. Their attitude is that they should be physically superior enough to score however they choose down there and if they don't succeed the first time, they will try the same thing until they're successful.
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I've liked the pressure we've gotten from our D-line this year so far, even when we don't blitz. They're the key, IMHO. If we can rattle Landry, then OU's beatable. If he has time, I'm afraid of Broyles. On the other side, OU's D CAN stop the run, so CK's going to have to hit a big pass or three. I'd love for McDonald to light up their safeties like OU's humongous TE lit up Coop back in the Big XII champ game back in the day.
It should be a fun one to watch - sad I can't be there in Manhappiness - make noise for those of us off the purple grid.
:ksu:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBJJelY7aQ
Be careful Tyler. :ohno:
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This is beautiful, btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4)
Far more concerned about him deep than Broyles although nervous about tackling Broyles underneath so he doesn't pop one because he's pretty good after the catch.
Jfc, anyone else going to worry about Hartman getting smoked? :ohno: (ftp://:ohno:)
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EDIT: Deleted for jinxies.
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somebody that's good at photoshop make a Zombie Austin Box for me.
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somebody that's good at photoshop make a Zombie Austin Box for me.
RE: OU. How can one team have so many players with such beautiful names???? It has always been this way for them and I don't understand it or think it is fair.
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They are going to throw the sink at the Chamber.
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They are going to throw the sink at the Chamber.
The Chamber don't give a eff
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I see it going about as well as the second half of Miami.
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I see it going about as well as the second half of Miami.
Or maybe the 2nd half at Tech. :dunno:
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I see it going about as well as the second half of Miami.
Or maybe the 2nd half at Tech. :dunno:
:excited:
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I see it going about as well as the second half of Miami.
I'm thinking it will be a lot like the 1st half at Tech except we won't have any non-offensive TDs. The only thing that makes me feel good about this game is that OU hasn't been all that impressive outside of the Texas game.
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They will have 'ell to pay in manhattan.
:)
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This is beautiful, btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTgoypNKa4)
Far more concerned about him deep than Broyles although nervous about tackling Broyles underneath so he doesn't pop one because he's pretty good after the catch.
Pretty funny that there best win is against an unranked FSU team (unless you think their best win is against Missouri). And they are picked to beat us by 14
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They will have 'ell to pay in manhattan.
:)
:cool:
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better stop the screen game
going to need our TEs to STEP UP
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we can win this game doing 3 things
1. dont put hartman in any situation where he could get burnt. if this means playing nickel the whole game do it.
2. no turnovers/big mistakes
3. solid defense and speical teams (including a def./st touchdown or two)
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It should also be mentioned that OU has one of the best if not the best TE in the conference in James Hanna. We've had a somewhat difficult time it seems covering opposing TE's (I can remember many instances in the Tech and Missouri games where their TE's were able to make some big plays), so we need to not only worry about their WR's getting down the field, but also covering the TE's in the middle of the field.
Besides covering all of their receivers, playing good defense and winning the turnover battle, I think the wild wildcats win this one easy.
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we can win this game doing 3 things
1. dont put hartman in any situation where he could get burnt. if this means playing nickel the whole game do it.
2. no turnovers/big mistakes
3. solid defense and speical teams (including a def./st touchdown or two)
Are you related to Jmenz223 by chance? This is what I think of your 3 key things to victory :fistpump: :fistpump: :fistpump: (ftp://:fistpump: :fistpump: :fistpump:) :raccoon: :raccoon: :raccoon: (ftp://:raccoon: :raccoon: :raccoon:) :star: :star: :star: (ftp://:star: :star: :star:)