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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: The Manhatter on October 19, 2011, 12:25:42 PM
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keep in mind this is a rank out of 120 teams...
Category - KU rank
rush defense - 116th
pass defense - 119th
total defense - 120th
scoring defense - 120th
passes intercepted - tied for 111th
pass efficiency defense - 119th
fumbles recovered - tied for 89th
turnovers gained - tied for 115th
tackles for loss - tied for 102nd
sacks by - tied for 105th
First Downs allowed - 118th
3rd down conversion pctg defense - 116th
4th down conversion pctg defense - tied 113th
red-zone efficiency defense - tied 111th
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
Lets get this fraud for trying to pass off raw data without adjusting for SOS. I'm with you Wes.
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I'm assuming this includes the +3 TO they were against OU, i just saw that and OU still had 600+ yards of offense to KU's 250ish. that's just flat out gross.
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sorry manhatter but there are some games where you just throw out the numbers and line up against each other. the dillon's is one of those.
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
why leave off the two shitty teams they played? :dunno: and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
why leave off the two shitty teams they played? :dunno: and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.
but these rankings are for ku's defense, so we are more concerned with gtech's offense, which is not pedestrian.
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
why leave off the two shitty teams they played? :dunno: and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.
You're right, G Tech's pedestrian D is really skewing these defenses rankings for KU's defense.
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
why leave off the two shitty teams they played? :dunno: and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.
You're right, G Tech's pedestrian D is really skewing these defenses rankings for KU's defense.
lol
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I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.
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I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.
KU gives up 7.64 yards per play (#120 in FBS), more than .6 YPP more than #119.
KU gives up .66 points per play (#120 in FBS). The national average is .37 and the Cats give up .30.
Last year's terrible K-State defense gave up 6.4 YPP and .42 PPP.
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I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.
KU gives up 7.64 yards per play (#120 in FBS), more than .6 YPP more than #119.
KU gives up .66 points per play (#120 in FBS). The national average is .37 and the Cats give up .30.
Last year's terrible K-State defense gave up 6.4 YPP and .42 PPP.
Thanks _Fan!
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I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.
KU gives up 7.64 yards per play (#120 in FBS), more than .6 YPP more than #119.
KU gives up .66 points per play (#120 in FBS). The national average is .37 and the Cats give up .30.
Last year's terrible K-State defense gave up 6.4 YPP and .42 PPP.
That settles that....
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while it's obvious KU has played some great offensive teams it is rather apparent they don't put up the kinds of numbers they did on KU vs. everybody.
Ga Tech had 413 yards at NC State, 386 vs. Maryland, and 296 @ Virginia....not exactly murderer's row. Ga Tech's offense is solid but it isn't insane...it's ranking was built off the three horrible teams they played in the first 3 (incl KU)
OU managed 310 yards vs. Florida State
Okie Lite pulled Weeden and a number of other starters in the 1st half against KU "skewing" their stats. But OSU struggled to throw the ball vs. Texas (420 yards total) and struggled for a half against aTm before finally accumulating 480 yards. But they were held in the 30s scoring at both Texas schools.
Yep, they've faced some good offenses but defenses not as good as ours have put some limitations on those explosive offenses. KU, on the other hand, had 11 corpses on the field.
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I guess 04 and 05 have just been burned into my memory of crap ku teams competing with us no matter what.
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I guess 04 and 05 have just been burned into my memory of crap ku teams competing with us no matter what.
Those KU teams were not good, but both were much, much better than this one.
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oooo... what say you bigwillie20?
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I guess 04 and 05 have just been burned into my memory of crap ku teams competing with us no matter what.
Those KU teams were not good, but both were much, much better than this one.
They had a CFL caliber running back
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
They also allowed 42 points to NIU.
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KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.
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KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.
I, for one, was very impressed with our little brother's ability to "compete" with a disinterested OU squad in the first two stanzas... Unfortunately, Stoops put a foot up their collective asses at half and it wasn't pretty in the second half.
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KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.
the goal-line stand b4 halftime was pretty awesome. Reminded me of a certain brotherly kansas team. ;)
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I feel like OU really shot themselves in the foot and still won by 30. Kicked a lot of field goals.
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last week OU was looking ahead to the K-State game
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these numbers remind me of seeing ku player photos and thinking, "those dudes really don't look like football players."
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Meh . . . meaningless.
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If they wear the red unis on Saturday you'll know it's on guys
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KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.
"significant strides" is a stretch. OU sleep walked and still put up 600 yards and 47 pts. If not for the fumble in the endzone it would have been over 50.
I realize OU has a nice offense but KU played back in the secondary to keep the big play from happening knowing full well that OU's running game is average.
The problem you will have this week is the offense is a different style. You can't play back because you will not stop our running game with the front 7 and you simply MUST force us into 3rd & long situations. We convert 3rd downs as well as OU and that is why we can play keep away. While OU is far more likely to get a gain of 30 yards on 1st or 2nd down we're going to get 3 or 4 yards on first down and set up series after series of 3rd & short and that is all we want to do.
Now, Tech could stack the box and limit us somewhat because they have a good pass defense. But KU doesn't have that either and there will be some WIDE open receivers running behind you.
The problem your offense faces is that we can simply shut down running games with our front 7 and, many times, don't even need the 7th in the box. KU's offense isn't NEARLY as effective when the running game is severely limited. Miami has a VERY good and experienced OL w/ a STUD RB and the only thing they got was popping a 60 yarder...other than that they did nothing. Both Baylor and Mizzou have run the ball VERY well this year...Mizzou had 70 yards rushing with a few minutes to play and Baylor managed 83 yards on 30 carries. I would take any of those OLines over KU's.
You've got an uphill battle here, Oregon Hawk. I know you're all smitten about coming within 400 yards and 30 pts of a sleep walking OU but there are things we do better than OU (running the ball and controlling the clock offensively and stronger up the middle defensively: NT, MLB, and Safety). It's a different kind of animal and your options are being eliminated as I type this.
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It's a different kind of animal and your options are being eliminated as I type this
Goodness gracias. That was just nasty MH. :frown:
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In light of his recent posting, I don't think OH deserved that
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:zzz:
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The TD pass to Broyles that broke the record was hilarious. Looked like the corner and safety thought the play had been blown dead or something.
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they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech :dunno:
why leave off the two shitty teams they played? :dunno: and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.
but these rankings are for ku's defense, so we are more concerned with gtech's offense, which is not pedestrian.
Wrong, GaTech's offense is very pedestrian, the numbers are just skewed because they played ku.
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confidence rising