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Title: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: jmenz223 on October 09, 2011, 02:37:40 PM
The Numbers:

OFFENSE
Rushing: KSU - 208.6 (26th)    Tech - 170.0 (44th)
Passing: KSU - 127.0 (109th)   Tech - 354.6 (6th)
Points Per Game: KSU - 27.8 (70th)  Tech - 47.3 (4th)
Overall Offense: KSU - 96th     Tech - 7th

DEFENSE
Rushing: KSU - 92.4 (16th)   Tech - 224.2 (112th)
Passing: KSU - 206.4 (36th)  Tech - 196.0 (25th)
Opp. PPG: KSU - 16.5 (17th)  Tech - 22.8 (45th)
Total Defense: KSU - 17th   Tech - 94th


Lets take a look at my predictions so far.

Baylor @ KSU - Predicted a win for the Cats in a "much closer game then anyone realizes." Final Score - 36-35

Missouri @ KSU - Predicted a win for the Cats, 35-28. Actual score, 24-17. got the point spread right, just not the numbers.


GAME PREVIEW


Kansas State went into the game against Missouri as the 20th ranked team in the nation, but still a 3 point projected underdog. The Tigers have a very potent mix of running and passing, able to move the ball either way against most teams. The Kansas State defense, however, showed why KSU is one of the top stories in College Football this year, as they stopped the Missouri offense and held them to 0 yards in the first quarter. After a resurgent effort by the Tigers in the final minutes of the game, the KSU defense proved to be too much to handle as they went down 24-17.

Going into the game against Texas Tech (4-1, 1-1 in big 12), #17 in the AP Poll, Kansas State (5-0, 2-0 big 12) knows that they are going to face yet again a powerful offensive attack. Texas Tech Quarterback Seth Doege is fast becoming one of the most prolific passers in College Football. He has amassed 1,315 yards through the air this year as well as 14 touchdowns to 1 interception. As if he's not enough to deal with, Running Back Eric Stephens is a tough runner who has a nose for the endzone, he has 468 yards through the ground and already 7 touchdown. He is also averaging near 5 yards per carry. To round out the offense of Texas Tech, Doege has to very competent young wide recievers in Alex Torres and Eric Ward, each with upwards of 15 receptions this season.

This season though, the Wildcats have came up against very powerful, efficiently run offenses and each time has shut them down. Voelker is turning into a sack machine, and Arthur Brown can not be stopped by anybody. David Garrett should be a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award by the end of the season. His lack of interceptions just goes to show the respect quarterbacks have for him as they never throw his direction. Nigel Malone is becoming an outstanding playmaker as well, a true ball hawk and natural instinct in finding the ball on every single play. The KSU Defense has bent but not broken once this year, always stopping the opposing team exactly when it needs to. The speed and quickness of our entire defensive unit is a nightmare for any team we go up against, and frustrates just about every offensive player wh goes against them.

Offensively, our running game is truly one of the most exciting to watch every Saturday. The mixture of Hubert, the emerging Pease, and running game of Collin Klein gives us so many options that each defense we play against has no idea who to tackle. They have to go after 3 players on every play, and its a confusing and exhausting thing for the opposing defenses to go through. Braden Wilson is one of the top fullbacks in the nation and when he leads the way for you, your almost guranteed 3 to 5 yards each play. Chris Harper is quickly becoming the go to guy in the passing game, and Brodrick Smith is a very good deep threat. It seems no matter where we turn, we have someone who can make a play for the Kansas State Wildcats.

The game is at Texas Tech,  which may pose some problems for our Wildcats. Then again, problems don't really seem to matter to KSU this year.

PREDICTION

Kansas State wins in a tough game at Texas Tech, 28-17. The offense breaks away in the fourth quarter to make the lead bigger then the game really is.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Trim on October 09, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
Kansas State wins in a tough game at Texas Tech, 28-17.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Panjandrum on October 09, 2011, 02:56:04 PM
I feel pretty confident in saying we'll win TOP handily and rush for somewhere around 300 yards.

I think this game will be close, but really only because Tech is a pretty salty passing team.  We're just going to churn through that defense.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 09, 2011, 02:56:13 PM
I like our odds on these next two games for sure. Our K-State Wild Wildcats will be 7-0 going into Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 09, 2011, 03:09:43 PM
The problem is K-State always plays like a$$ in Lubbock.   Even when K-State was good, they stunk the place up and had to hang on for dear life.

 
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: hemmy on October 09, 2011, 03:13:11 PM
The problem is K-State always plays like a$$ in Lubbock.   Even when K-State was good, they stunk the place up and had to hang on for dear life.

 

I think '97 was the only good K-State team to play in Lubbock...Unless you count 6 win 2001
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 09, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
the guarantee
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: uwcatfan on October 09, 2011, 03:41:05 PM
Stephens is hurt.  Still, Tech in Lubbock makes me very :ohno:

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/35590/tech-loses-top-running-back-with-a-leg-injury
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: kstater on October 09, 2011, 03:51:30 PM
Tech's offensive numbers a bit skewed because they've already gotten to play KU.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: kim carnes on October 09, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
We won't hold tech to 17 pts in Lubbock, imo.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: puniraptor on October 09, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
I think we give those bitches a good reason to crap in our bus.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Shacks on October 09, 2011, 04:20:31 PM
Tech's offensive numbers a bit skewed because they've already gotten to play KU.

Fair enough, but they did put up more points against A&M than Oklahoma State did.  We are going to score more than 28 and they are going to score more than 17.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Bookcat on October 09, 2011, 04:45:28 PM
We won't hold tech to 17 pts in Lubbock, imo.

Kstate has to get into the 30's to win imho....and hold Tech to a litle over half of their ppg average which is rougly 28.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: cas4ksu on October 09, 2011, 05:23:26 PM
I'm scared as crap for this game, BTW.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 09, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
I'm scared as crap for this game, BTW.
Which game haven't we been scared as crap for? I mean, out of the three big teams we have played? Them Wild Wildcats will continue to turn heads!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: pike on October 09, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
We won't hold tech to 17 pts in Lubbock, imo.

Kstate has to get into the 30's to win imho....and hold Tech to a litle over half of their ppg average which is rougly 28.

 :surprised:

Doable imo
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on October 09, 2011, 11:15:57 PM
Tech owns us, I'm worried. 
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: theymightbegiants on October 09, 2011, 11:27:55 PM
I just don't see klein taking this punishment week in and week out without fumbling and our line not recovering. It will happen at some point and it is gonna be bad. (knock on wood hope i'm wrong). If it happens at tech could be scary close
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: jtksu on October 09, 2011, 11:48:47 PM
Kinda doubt CK going down would really effect (affect?) us all that much.  SLamur can run the ball just fine.  Prolly be about like CK last year.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: nicname on October 09, 2011, 11:59:56 PM
 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: MadCat on October 10, 2011, 01:03:52 AM
No worries: Tech is favored to win.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: HeinBallz on October 10, 2011, 02:14:02 PM
Kinda doubt CK going down would really effect (affect?) us all that much.  SLamur can run the ball just fine.  Prolly be about like CK last year.

Because anyone can run the zone read accurately.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Winters on October 10, 2011, 02:23:21 PM
Tech's rushing defense is terrible. ***NOT WORRIED***
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: pissclams on October 10, 2011, 02:23:59 PM
hey tech, you're going down. 
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Bookcat on October 10, 2011, 02:31:52 PM
Tech has only 3 turnovers all year.


We run the ball and play defense. They are without Stephens and are still steamed about A&M cheap shotting him out of the game. Good for us.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: kcchiefdav on October 10, 2011, 02:36:26 PM
This jmenz kid has been money on his predictos so far, however I think his score is way too low this game. This game is going to be played in the 30s and 40s not in the 20s. I think our time of possession might be down a little bit this game. We should have alot of run plays that go for 6 or 7 yards rather than the 4 or 5 we are used to. Also, I suspect we'll break more runs. This will help contribute to the higher scoring. Assuming we can take care of the ball, I'd say this game is ours to win.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Boom Roasted on October 10, 2011, 03:27:48 PM
Scared of Lub to be honest.  Has the feeling of a trap game that gets overlooked because were all  :ksu: number #17.  Good thing Vegas agrees and has made us the dog.  Sure hope it keeps the team hungry.

Thinking we score about 35 and hold Tech to 27.  They dont have the big play option every down like Baylor but they sling it around well.  Plus we are in Lubbock which has been less than generous as previously stated.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: deputy dawg on October 10, 2011, 03:35:37 PM
I hate games on the far side of the moon (i.e., Lubbock), and the 'Cats are pretty consistent about losing there.  On paper, K-State should be able to handle the Techies, but I agree with the previous poster that said this game has the smell of a trap game.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: jabba11 on October 10, 2011, 03:41:38 PM
Id say 35-28 is a good call on the score. Ive watched the a&m game today several times now. Its tough to determine how they will play against a run based O. ODege is  solid and has good accuracy. We will have to have a good day secondary wise for sure. I look for AB to be more of a factor in this game than the MU game (not that hes not a factor in every game). On the flip side we have to be able to play our offensive game with clock control and driving touchdowns. One other thing, our kick coverage will be key in this one. They got a guy named Mcroy or something like that that returned it big 3 times against A&M and it made a big differemce in that game Id say. Sorry.. crappy typist..
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: Winters on October 10, 2011, 03:41:55 PM
No Mike Leach  :gocho:
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Id say 35-28 is a good call on the score. Ive watched tIts tought to se how he TTU A&m game several times now. Its tought o determine how they will play against a run based O. Dege is a solid and has good accuracy. We will have to have a good day secondary wise for sure. I look for AB to be more of a factor in this game than the MU game (not that hes not a factor in every game). On the flip side we have to be abel to play our offensive game with clock control and driving touchdowns. One other thing our kick coverage will be key in this one. They got a guy named Mcroy or something like that that returned it big 3 times against A&M and it made a big differemce in that game Id say.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: kslim on October 10, 2011, 04:03:16 PM
Id say 35-28 is a good call on the score. Ive watched tIts tought to se how he TTU A&m game several times now. Its tought o determine how they will play against a run based O. Dege is a solid and has good accuracy. We will have to have a good day secondary wise for sure. I look for AB to be more of a factor in this game than the MU game (not that hes not a factor in every game). On the flip side we have to be abel to play our offensive game with clock control and driving touchdowns. One other thing our kick coverage will be key in this one. They got a guy named Mcroy or something like that that returned it big 3 times against A&M and it made a big differemce in that game Id say.

 :popcorn:

good call, i had to read that several times to comprehend it. ftb go cats
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on October 10, 2011, 04:06:17 PM
Id say 35-28 is a good call on the score. Ive watched tIts tought to se how he TTU A&m game several times now. Its tought o determine how they will play against a run based O. Dege is a solid and has good accuracy. We will have to have a good day secondary wise for sure. I look for AB to be more of a factor in this game than the MU game (not that hes not a factor in every game). On the flip side we have to be abel to play our offensive game with clock control and driving touchdowns. One other thing our kick coverage will be key in this one. They got a guy named Mcroy or something like that that returned it big 3 times against A&M and it made a big differemce in that game Id say.

 :popcorn:

Man, I miss Nosejob.  I sure hope whatever Arizona State rebel message board he's currently gracing with his presence appreciates what they have.
Title: Re: Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Post by: pissclams on October 13, 2011, 06:40:03 PM
The Numbers:

OFFENSE
Rushing: KSU - 208.6 (26th)    Tech - 170.0 (44th)
Passing: KSU - 127.0 (109th)   Tech - 354.6 (6th)
Points Per Game: KSU - 27.8 (70th)  Tech - 47.3 (4th)
Overall Offense: KSU - 96th     Tech - 7th

DEFENSE
Rushing: KSU - 92.4 (16th)   Tech - 224.2 (112th)
Passing: KSU - 206.4 (36th)  Tech - 196.0 (25th)
Opp. PPG: KSU - 16.5 (17th)  Tech - 22.8 (45th)
Total Defense: KSU - 17th   Tech - 94th


Lets take a look at my predictions so far.

Baylor @ KSU - Predicted a win for the Cats in a "much closer game then anyone realizes." Final Score - 36-35

Missouri @ KSU - Predicted a win for the Cats, 35-28. Actual score, 24-17. got the point spread right, just not the numbers.


GAME PREVIEW


Kansas State went into the game against Missouri as the 20th ranked team in the nation, but still a 3 point projected underdog. The Tigers have a very potent mix of running and passing, able to move the ball either way against most teams. The Kansas State defense, however, showed why KSU is one of the top stories in College Football this year, as they stopped the Missouri offense and held them to 0 yards in the first quarter. After a resurgent effort by the Tigers in the final minutes of the game, the KSU defense proved to be too much to handle as they went down 24-17.

Going into the game against Texas Tech (4-1, 1-1 in big 12), #17 in the AP Poll, Kansas State (5-0, 2-0 big 12) knows that they are going to face yet again a powerful offensive attack. Texas Tech Quarterback Seth Doege is fast becoming one of the most prolific passers in College Football. He has amassed 1,315 yards through the air this year as well as 14 touchdowns to 1 interception. As if he's not enough to deal with, Running Back Eric Stephens is a tough runner who has a nose for the endzone, he has 468 yards through the ground and already 7 touchdown. He is also averaging near 5 yards per carry. To round out the offense of Texas Tech, Doege has to very competent young wide recievers in Alex Torres and Eric Ward, each with upwards of 15 receptions this season.

This season though, the Wildcats have came up against very powerful, efficiently run offenses and each time has shut them down. Voelker is turning into a sack machine, and Arthur Brown can not be stopped by anybody. David Garrett should be a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award by the end of the season. His lack of interceptions just goes to show the respect quarterbacks have for him as they never throw his direction. Nigel Malone is becoming an outstanding playmaker as well, a true ball hawk and natural instinct in finding the ball on every single play. The KSU Defense has bent but not broken once this year, always stopping the opposing team exactly when it needs to. The speed and quickness of our entire defensive unit is a nightmare for any team we go up against, and frustrates just about every offensive player wh goes against them.

Offensively, our running game is truly one of the most exciting to watch every Saturday. The mixture of Hubert, the emerging Pease, and running game of Collin Klein gives us so many options that each defense we play against has no idea who to tackle. They have to go after 3 players on every play, and its a confusing and exhausting thing for the opposing defenses to go through. Braden Wilson is one of the top fullbacks in the nation and when he leads the way for you, your almost guranteed 3 to 5 yards each play. Chris Harper is quickly becoming the go to guy in the passing game, and Brodrick Smith is a very good deep threat. It seems no matter where we turn, we have someone who can make a play for the Kansas State Wildcats.

The game is at Texas Tech,  which may pose some problems for our Wildcats. Then again, problems don't really seem to matter to KSU this year.

PREDICTION

Kansas State wins in a tough game at Texas Tech, 28-17. The offense breaks away in the fourth quarter to make the lead bigger then the game really is.

i agree with your analysis jmenz, great report.