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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: HawaiiCat on October 08, 2011, 02:45:19 PM
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We're nationally ranked, playing a conference rival at home, and can't fill the stadium. What the hell? I know it's a three day weekend, but come on!
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We're nationally ranked, playing a conference rival at home, and can't fill the stadium. What the hell? I know it's a three day weekend, but come on!
Yah you should've went
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Would you pay 50 dollars for upper deck in the rain calm down bro. Our demand is higher than we call fit in our stadium so they jack up the prices to try and be the most profitable, econ.
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Upper deck in the rain, for $50.
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Upper deck in the rain, for $50.
Yeah, there is a problem with that. I don't think most people realize how crappy those seats are. They should be 15 bucks tops.
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What's the excuse for the student section?
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What's the excuse for the student section?
:jerk: Sold my ticket (had to work) looks full on the tv i'm watching :dunno: but I guess it is just a 60 inch HD screen so I prolly just missed the huge area of empty seats in the student section.
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Not that it is too blame for our attendance but I am curious to see what type of effect HDTVs have and will have on sports. Yeah, I'll definitely be there for the really good games but Mizzou in the rain? eff that, I have a monster ass TV and a fridge full of beer. I'm good right where I'm at.
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Upper deck in the rain, for $50.
Yeah, there is a problem with that. I don't think most people realize how crappy those seats are. They should be 15 bucks tops.
I hear ya nicname, my wife says those seats rub her vagina raw as well.....
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Jesus, that was rough. Nicname, I hear there are several suicide hotlines out there, don't let that verbal raping be the thing that sends you over the edge.
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:jerk: Sold my ticket (had to work) looks full on the tv i'm watching :dunno: but I guess it is just a 60 inch HD screen so I prolly just missed the huge area of empty seats in the student section.
Not that it is too blame for our attendance but I am curious to see what type of effect HDTVs have and will have on sports. Yeah, I'll definitely be there for the really good games but Mizzou in the rain? eff that, I have a monster ass TV and a fridge full of beer. I'm good right where I'm at.
Mods, could we please change the title of this thread to "Eff you and your large penis! I have a big tv.
TIA
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Totally off the mark here. My SUV is compensation for my tiny willie, the tv isjust for watching sports.
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Totally off the mark here. My SUV is compensation for my tiny willie, the tv isjust for watching sports.
:thumbsup:
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the empty seats are very deflating.
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A few empty seats, big deal in the rain.
People have got to understand that many other small population states are either more compact than Kansas or only have 1 major team.
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People have got to understand that many other small population states are either more compact than Kansas or only have 1 major team.
WTF. That's the exact reason people use when they argue towards kicking us out of a BCS conference. Thanks dax. :jerk:
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Some of the upper deck seats are actually pretty Damn good, but the atmosphere isn't the same.
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There are multiple BCS school states with the same issue Fatty . . . try paying attention.
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There are multiple BCS school states with the same issue Fatty . . . try paying attention.
Yeah, and it's a huge and legitimate issue (and is magnified on gamedays like this)
And don't pull that "try paying attention" sh*t on me. I'm not some scrub mu or ku fan.
I am fatty fat fat.
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We are averaging 98% of capacity.
If the AD is going to charge $50 bucks for the really crappy seats, then expect empty seats on games like today. $50 bucks buys plenty of brews and a nice pile of wings for the average fan.
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f the AD is going to charge $50 bucks for the really crappy seats, then expect empty seats on games like today. $50 bucks buys plenty of brews and a nice pile of wings for the average fan.
i agree with this. drop the f*cking prices and fill that stadium.
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Even for the bigger games, there needs to be a 3 if not 4 tier ticket pricing, the 2 upper level sections on both ends need to be at most $25 dollars.
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What's the excuse for the student section?
:jerk: Sold my ticket (had to work) looks full on the tv i'm watching :dunno: but I guess it is just a 60 inch HD screen so I prolly just missed the huge area of empty seats in the student section.
Your TV must really suck. There was half a section missing the whole time.
Source: I sit across from the student section and critique it much of the game. They suck balls.
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WTF is going on with Dax lately? Is this how he is when the team is winning? I feel like I don't even know him lately.
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Even for the bigger games, there needs to be a 3 if not 4 tier ticket pricing, the 2 upper level sections on both ends need to be at most $25 dollars.
THIS. have been saying this for a long time. do we need to start an email campaign? I can tuck in my shirt and start typing if I need to.
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Even for the bigger games, there needs to be a 3 if not 4 tier ticket pricing, the 2 upper level sections on both ends need to be at most $25 dollars.
THIS. have been saying this for a long time. do we need to start an email campaign? I can tuck in my shirt and start typing if I need to.
what makes more money, 75% of a section full at 50 bucks or 100% full at 25 bucks?
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Upper deck in the rain, for $50.
Yeah, there is a problem with that. I don't think most people realize how crappy those seats are. They should be 15 bucks tops.
I hear ya nicname, my wife says those seats rub her vagina raw as well.....
Sat in section 427 row 2 right above the band, in the rain. Best seats I've ever had at BSFS. :dunno:
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Even for the bigger games, there needs to be a 3 if not 4 tier ticket pricing, the 2 upper level sections on both ends need to be at most $25 dollars.
THIS. have been saying this for a long time. do we need to start an email campaign? I can tuck in my shirt and start typing if I need to.
what makes more money, 75% of a section full at 50 bucks or 100% full at 25 bucks?
but it looks so bad
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Even for the bigger games, there needs to be a 3 if not 4 tier ticket pricing, the 2 upper level sections on both ends need to be at most $25 dollars.
THIS. have been saying this for a long time. do we need to start an email campaign? I can tuck in my shirt and start typing if I need to.
what makes more money, 75% of a section full at 50 bucks or 100% full at 25 bucks?
but it looks so bad
The sections being discussed aren't 75% full.
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I'm not concerned, look at the weather. Also there was rcing going on at the Kansas Speedway.
Also, they showed the stands in other games today and there were some empty seats--Georgia Tech and Soouth Carolina had some empty.
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Also, love how the anti-tucks have pulled a BMW mind trick and diverted attention away from the success on the field. Pretty sure every mod here is a born and bred Squawk. The rest of 'em are just their socks.
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Also, love how the anti-tucks have pulled a BMW mind trick and diverted attention away from the success on the field. Pretty sure every mod here is a born and bred Squawk. The rest of 'em are just their socks.
you are welcome to post about the game, instead of obsessing about the "anti-tucks"
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Ok guys I'm trying to get tickets for the OU game. Been in the Bill dozens of times, never been up to the upper tank. Seriously how bad is it? I'm considering this.
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Ok guys I'm trying to get tickets for the OU game. Been in the Bill dozens of times, never been up to the upper tank. Seriously how bad is it? I'm considering this.
its not that bad, i was in the very upper south corner for ku 07
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Ok guys I'm trying to get tickets for the OU game. Been in the Bill dozens of times, never been up to the upper tank. Seriously how bad is it? I'm considering this.
Not bad at all if you get tickets in the 1st or 2nd row. The third row is for handicap I think so it is separated and raised a bit. Like I said, I sat there today and it was pretty awesome.
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If people have other things they prefer to do rather than attend what is probably the best KSU team in almost a decade, then by all means, we should let them.
Those other things must be pretty important.
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Ok guys I'm trying to get tickets for the OU game. Been in the Bill dozens of times, never been up to the upper tank. Seriously how bad is it? I'm considering this.
they are pretty good really. was surprised at how non-crapty they are
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Ok guys I'm trying to get tickets for the OU game. Been in the Bill dozens of times, never been up to the upper tank. Seriously how bad is it? I'm considering this.
Not bad at all if you get tickets in the 1st or 2nd row. The third row is for handicap I think so it is separated and raised a bit. Like I said, I sat there today and it was pretty awesome.
ok i'm convinced. tickets purchased. it'll be cool to try it out.
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What's the excuse for the student section?
:jerk: Sold my ticket (had to work) looks full on the tv i'm watching :dunno: but I guess it is just a 60 inch HD screen so I prolly just missed the huge area of empty seats in the student section.
Your TV must really suck. There was half a section missing the whole time.
Source: I sit across from the student section and critique it much of the game. They suck balls.
You should untuck your v-neck from your whitie tighties....only old shits try and critique the student section when you sit in cushioned chair backs.
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We're nationally ranked, playing a conference rival at home, and can't fill the stadium. What the hell? I know it's a three day weekend, but come on!
Yah you should've went
Sorry, I live five time zones away. That $900, 10 hour flight is a little more difficult than a ten minute walk across campus. I'll be at the Diamond Head Classic though. Will you?
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I sat at the very top, and they were fine seats :dunno:
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You should untuck your v-neck from your whitie tighties....only old shits try and critique the student section when you sit in cushioned chair backs.
I'm not old and I wore a button down (untucked) with rain jacket and shorts. And I sat in the club level (non cushioned seat) with a beer in my hand the entire game. But, I will critique the crap out of the student section because I stood in that section for every home game for 4 years.
You guys rough ridin' suck. There shouldn't have been an open seat in that section this week. Maybe some more students will find the time in their busy schedules to walk over for the OU game.
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You should untuck your v-neck from your whitie tighties....only old shits try and critique the student section when you sit in cushioned chair backs.
I'm not old and I wore a button down (untucked) with rain jacket and shorts. And I sat in the club level (non cushioned seat) with a beer in my hand the entire game. But, I will critique the crap out of the student section because I stood in that section for every home game for 4 years.
You guys rough ridin' suck. There shouldn't have been an open seat in that section this week. Maybe some more students will find the time in their busy schedules to walk over for the OU game.
Well so did everybody else on a goEMAW bbs. Quit pretending like you are solely responsible for having a "better" student section and quit pretending that any student that posts on a KSU football message doesn't go to the games.
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"This just in, breaking news: older students are disgusted with newer students. They say they don't do things the way the old students used to do and they are not happy about it. Newer students seem to have different values and expectations. More on this later in the broadcast."
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I'm sorry, are you defending the student section? Like, you think it's just fine that an entire section was empty?
Or you just don't like it when non-students talk crap?
Seems like the students who do attend should be super pissed at their fellow students. IMO
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I think you should just relax and let the situation take care of itself.
I don't remember being issued a "student behavior card" when I was there for the DoD.
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I'm sorry, are you defending the student section? Like, you think it's just fine that an entire section was empty?
Or you just don't like it when non-students talk crap?
Seems like the students who do attend should be super pissed at their fellow students. IMO
No dumbass, I just don't know the proper response is to "you guys rough ridin' suck." Also, validating your assessment with "I went to all the games" on this site is redundant as hell because it's a KSU fan message board. Every student here goes/went to all the games.
It's just a silly talking point. For example, I could say some bullshit about how when I was a non-student and how I went to all the games and back then the non-students were better than the non-students today because more people went and that the non-students today are a bunch of hacks and so on and so forth.
The culture has to be rebuilt and once it is, I'd bet more students and non-students alike consistently attend games. Until then, we'll probably hover around 48k or so.
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They say they don't do things the way the old students used to do... Newer students seem to have different values and expectations.
Ahh gotcha.. It's like a smaller is better thing. The 25% fewer students is simply a reflection of different values, or something. Kind of like tim Weiser's philosophy on facilities.
And why is it that I can't be pissed about student attendance? How Bout the 48k total attendance for the game? Can I be pissed about alumni? That game should have been sold out. Alumni and students alike are rough ridin' lame for not showing up. Just my humble opinion. Props to those who showed up.
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They say they don't do things the way the old students used to do... Newer students seem to have different values and expectations.
Ahh gotcha.. It's like a smaller is better thing. The 25% fewer students is simply a reflection of different values, or something. Kind of like tim Weiser's philosophy on facilities.
And why is it that I can't be pissed about student attendance? How Bout the 48k total attendance for the game? Can I be pissed about alumni? That game should have been sold out. Alumni and students alike are rough ridin' lame for not showing up. Just my humble opinion. Props to those who showed up.
Be pissed about whatever you want Mr. Iwentothegameswheniwasastudent, but realize that if we ever see the days of 50k+ on a weekly basis, it won't be for a while.
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The culture has to be rebuilt and once it is, I'd bet more students and non-students alike consistently attend games. Until then, we'll probably hover around 48k or so.
Ahhh, the culture has to be rebuilt. I got it. It's a cultural thing, or something.
Disregard the fact that we sold out the first two games. Disregard that we're ranked. It's 1989 again. Just have to wait for people to buy back in.
When the OU game isn't sold out, well just chalk it up to culture or something. Btw, is economy still a valid excuse or was that more of a 2010 thing?
Stop being a moron and just agree with me.
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The culture has to be rebuilt and once it is, I'd bet more students and non-students alike consistently attend games. Until then, we'll probably hover around 48k or so.
Ahhh, the culture has to be rebuilt. I got it. It's a cultural thing, or something.
Disregard the fact that we sold out the first two games. Disregard that we're ranked. It's 1989 again. Just have to wait for people to buy back in.
When the OU game isn't sold out, well just chalk it up to culture or something. Btw, is economy still a valid excuse or was that more of a 2010 thing?
Stop being a moron and just agree with me.
Both of those things contribute heavily to the attendance issue. If they don't then what explains the non-sellouts? People are just genuinely more interested in kent state and eastern kentucky?
Besides, I'm not trying to vilify or excuse anyone. Just trying to explain to you why the situation is what it is, without throwing a temper tantrum.
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One reason the student section doesn't fill up is that it is much harder than it should be to sell student tickets now. Each student who buys season tickets gets an ID card that has all of their tickets for the year on it. The days of selling your ticket to a random person when you can't go to the game are gone. Really should go back to physical tickets IMO.
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One reason the student section doesn't fill up is that it is much harder than it should be to sell student tickets now. Each student who buys season tickets gets an ID card that has all of their tickets for the year on it. The days of selling your ticket to a random person when you can't go to the game are gone. Really should go back to physical tickets IMO.
Also, don't forget to give me that card back, 8man!
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You should untuck your v-neck from your whitie tighties....only old shits try and critique the student section when you sit in cushioned chair backs.
I'm not old and I wore a button down (untucked) with rain jacket and shorts. And I sat in the club level (non cushioned seat) with a beer in my hand the entire game. But, I will critique the crap out of the student section because I stood in that section for every home game for 4 years.
You guys rough ridin' suck. There shouldn't have been an open seat in that section this week. Maybe some more students will find the time in their busy schedules to walk over for the OU game.
The students in Bramlage now are way better than when you were in school. Weird, huh?
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They say they don't do things the way the old students used to do... Newer students seem to have different values and expectations.
Ahh gotcha.. It's like a smaller is better thing. The 25% fewer students is simply a reflection of different values, or something. Kind of like tim Weiser's philosophy on facilities.
And why is it that I can't be pissed about student attendance? How Bout the 48k total attendance for the game? Can I be pissed about alumni? That game should have been sold out. Alumni and students alike are rough ridin' lame for not showing up. Just my humble opinion. Props to those who showed up.
Maybe it's just me but we're 5-0, ranked, been on TV last two weeks and looked good and I'm more :love: than :runaway: about everything.
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
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Unless you're in the student section, or in a drinking section with a lot of buds and insulated from KSTATEOs, the BSFS game experience isn't fun.
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Unless you're in the student section, or in a drinking section with a lot of buds and insulated from KSTATEOs, the BSFS game experience isn't fun.
agreed. love the school, absolutely hate the fanbase.
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
eat a dick. you're not john currie, you don't choose the ticket prices.
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
eat a dick. you're not john currie, you don't choose the ticket prices.
awesome, observation.
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
eat a dick. you're not john currie, you don't choose the ticket prices.
awesome, observation.
It needed to be said. Quit bitching about the ticket prices, they are very fair. I'm sorry that you think otherwise.
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
eat a dick. you're not john currie, you don't choose the ticket prices.
awesome observation.
It needed to be said. Quit bitching about the ticket prices, they are very fair. I'm sorry that you think otherwise.
it has nothing to do with being fair, is it K-state's fault that I chose a career that pays crap? no, I don't blame them for me not being able to afford to go to more games. if we were selling out the stadium at the current prices I'd be all for it, maybe even raising the prices, even if that meant completely pricing me out of tickets. I wouldn't care as long as the stadium was full and making money.
that isn't happening, it's really not even close, yesterday the corners were completely empty. I don't see the problem with lowering the prices of those seats to get another 2-3k in the stadium. granted I'm no financial whiz, but I don't see how that could adversely affect profits. correct me if I'm wrong.
don't mean to come across as bitching here, just sharing my opinion
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It needed to be said. Quit bitching about the ticket prices, they are very fair. I'm sorry that you think otherwise.
:dubious:
Some horrible seats currently cost the same as much better seats. And there's a pretty clear correlation between attendance and ticket prices for the first four games. There's definitely a lot of poor people who will go to games depending on how much the game ticket costs. Doesn't make much sense to me considering the cost of a ticket is often a drop in the bucket of what's spent on a trip to a game, but it's clearly the approach taken by the last 2,000 people needed to fill the stadium.
I've got a free ticket available for the ou game and it's less than 10% I'll go.
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I bought a seson ticket in section 430 fro 235 bucks I bleive it was.. 235/7 = 33.57 a ticket. And while the experience is a little different up there mostly becasue you cant hear the studnet section well etc, you CAN see the game quite well. In fact you can see it better than most seats in the stadium becasue of the "overhead view" I have sat in many places in the satdium chairbacks endzones even in a box once (which was heaven by the way). IMHO the worst seat to watch th egame from is the endzone I could NEVER tell what was happenign becasue of the perspective you have there..
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Endzone seats worst? Parents had endzone seats (sec 14) for years, loved them because we could see what the players see, it was awesome.
Plus we were the section that caused the Nebraska kicker to miss the easy FG during 29-28. :cool:
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
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Oh, and by the way... I went to the Oregon State/Arizona game yesterday (go Beavs!!!) and tickets for the upper deck were $15.
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The students in Bramlage now are way better than when you were in school. Weird, huh?
Thanks for making my point for me. Student sections at KSU kick ass when we are winning. Plain and simple. We saw it during the DoD and we saw it when Huggins showed up. The effect was immediate. Even though the Huggins team was fairly average, they won 20 games. The student participation turned amazing overnight. None of this "cultural" bullshit.
When I was in school, bball sucked and crowds were small. Now were good and crowds are big. Pretty simple.
This is why Saturday's crowd bothered me. We are good. Support the team. Just like bball. Just like the DoD. If we sucked, I would understand the apathy. As it is, I'm a little confused.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
seems we should decide which one is the flagship of the state. Lets examine football records.
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The students in Bramlage now are way better than when you were in school. Weird, huh?
Thanks for making my point for me. Student sections at KSU kick ass when we are winning. Plain and simple. We saw it during the DoD and we saw it when Huggins showed up. The effect was immediate. Even though the Huggins team was fairly average, they won 20 games. The student participation turned amazing overnight. None of this "cultural" bullshit.
When I was in school, bball sucked and crowds were small. Now were good and crowds are big. Pretty simple.
This is why Saturday's crowd bothered me. We are good. Support the team. Just like bball. Just like the DoD. If we sucked, I would understand the apathy. As it is, I'm a little confused.
Basketball student section didn't consistently fill up during Huggins's year.
Come on.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
what should the population be per BCS school?
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
Name a state with a lower population than Kansas that has two BCS schools. You can't.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
Utah could have 2 if/when BYU joins a BCS conference. Mississippi and Iowa each have like a few hundred more thousand than Kansas.
It's a disadvantage, no doubt, but it's not like we're splitting Delaware's population and KS definitely isn't one of the "least populated states in the country."
Name a state with a lower population than Kansas that has two BCS schools. You can't.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
Name a state with a lower population than Kansas that has two BCS schools. You can't.
Nevada has UNLV and Nevada. Not sure if that counts.
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Even for the bigger games, there needs to be a 3 if not 4 tier ticket pricing, the 2 upper level sections on both ends need to be at most $25 dollars.
THIS. have been saying this for a long time. do we need to start an email campaign? I can tuck in my shirt and start typing if I need to.
what makes more money, 75% of a section full at 50 bucks or 100% full at 25 bucks?
You're right concessions and repeat customers should not factored in. Also, with tiered pricing, you get to have different prices for different tiers. The change could be revenue neutral or not revenue neutral, it really isn't the topic at hand.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
Name a state with a lower population than Kansas that has two BCS schools. You can't.
I'm giving this to you on a technicality, but Utah is smaller than Kansas, and I'd argue that you can consider an Independent BYU on par with most BCS teams.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
Utah could have 2 if/when BYU joins a BCS conference. Mississippi and Iowa each have like a few hundred more thousand than Kansas.
It's a disadvantage, no doubt, but it's not like we're splitting Delaware's population and KS definitely isn't one of the "least populated states in the country."
Name a state with a lower population than Kansas that has two BCS schools. You can't.
Kansas is 33 out of 50 in terms of population, meaning it is indeed one of the least populated states in the country.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
KS is pretty middle of the road as far as state populations go.
Name a state with a lower population than Kansas that has two BCS schools. You can't.
I'm giving this to you on a technicality, but Utah is smaller than Kansas, and I'd argue that you can consider an Independent BYU on par with most BCS teams.
BYU isn't in a BCS conference. There are plenty of non-BCS teams that are "on par" with teams in a BCS conference. See: Boise State.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
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And btw, I'm talking crap on the students or alumni that chose to attend. The 48k in the stadium were into the game. Students were great.
My comments are directed at the losers who didn't show. Pretty lame.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
Do you know what the word "logic" means?
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Agree that the upper deck seating ought to be tiered appropriately. $25 to $35 seems reasonable for those problematic corner sections.
The student section is a different animal. I'd actually like to see its size reduced by one section if it's not filled from this point forward. Use it or lose it. If you want to buy a ticket and stay in the parking lot drinking or playing a game of corn hole in your front yard instead of attending, that's cool. We just need to eliminate the 750 or so seats from the student section that have been consistently never filled for the last 10 years and open them up for season ticket sales. The AD knows they can oversell to the students if they don't want to show up and I'm cool with it. They can sit on the grass in an overflow scenario like they used to.
We're losing out on a substantial amount of high revenue generating seats at midfield that we could be capitalizing on. Might as well sell them to season ticket holders and keep the lower bowl of the stadium full.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
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Oh, and by the way... I went to the Oregon State/Arizona game yesterday (go Beavs!!!) and tickets for the upper deck were $15.
yes, this is what needs to happen.
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Here you go beems:
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(included TCU but not BYU)
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The student section is a different animal. I'd actually like to see its size reduced by one section if it's not filled from this point forward. Use it or lose it. If you want to buy a ticket and stay in the parking lot drinking or playing a game of corn hole in your front yard instead of attending, that's cool. We just need to eliminate the 750 or so seats from the student section that have been consistently never filled for the last 10 years and open them up for season ticket sales. The AD knows they can oversell to the students if they don't want to show up and I'm cool with it. They can sit on the grass in an overflow scenario like they used to.
We're losing out on a substantial amount of high revenue generating seats at midfield that we could be capitalizing on. Might as well sell them to season ticket holders and keep the lower bowl of the stadium full.
Under the "use it or lose it" theory, shouldn't the section taken away from the students be the shitty one that's furthest north that nobody wants to sit in? I don't think you can assume that the same number of students will show up (assuming football quality/atmosphere stays generally where it's been) and slide one section over with 1/5 of them being shoved into the section that's barely in the stadium, regardless of how nice it would be for people like us to be able to slide into section 24 at midfield.
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The student section is a different animal. I'd actually like to see its size reduced by one section if it's not filled from this point forward. Use it or lose it. If you want to buy a ticket and stay in the parking lot drinking or playing a game of corn hole in your front yard instead of attending, that's cool. We just need to eliminate the 750 or so seats from the student section that have been consistently never filled for the last 10 years and open them up for season ticket sales. The AD knows they can oversell to the students if they don't want to show up and I'm cool with it. They can sit on the grass in an overflow scenario like they used to.
We're losing out on a substantial amount of high revenue generating seats at midfield that we could be capitalizing on. Might as well sell them to season ticket holders and keep the lower bowl of the stadium full.
Under the "use it or lose it" theory, shouldn't the section taken away from the students be the shitty one that's furthest north that nobody wants to sit in? I don't think you can assume that the same number of students will show up (assuming football quality/atmosphere stays generally where it's been) and slide one section over with 1/5 of them being shoved into the section that's barely in the stadium, regardless of how nice it would be for people like us to be able to slide into section 24 at midfield.
agree with this, something should be done about that section. angle it in or something.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
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Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
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Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
I've been celebrating 66% on tests for years :thumbs:
There is a valid argument that attendance for K-State and KU is hurt by the fact that we have two BCS schools in a small state. Two weeks ago when K-State was playing Baylor and KU was playing Tech there were 50K at our game and 40K at KU's game. That's 90K total fans attending college football games in a state that doesn't have a ton of people, and those attendance stats weren't inflated with visiting fans. If Kansas only had one school like Nebraska, that school could play in a stadium that seats 75-80K and sellout every game.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
:facepalm:
Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
I've been celebrating 66% on tests for years :thumbs:
There is a valid argument that attendance for K-State and KU is hurt by the fact that we have two BCS schools in a small state. Two weeks ago when K-State was playing Baylor and KU was playing Tech there were 50K at our game and 40K at KU's game. That's 90K total fans attending college football games in a state that doesn't have a ton of people, and those attendance stats weren't inflated with visiting fans. If Kansas only had one school like Nebraska, that school could play in a stadium that seats 75-80K and sellout every game.
not if the team sucked, which it probably would
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
:facepalm:
Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
Look, I love Kansas... but it's not a very highly populated state. It's just not. Don't get all butthurt about it.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
:facepalm:
Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
I've been celebrating 66% on tests for years :thumbs:
There is a valid argument that attendance for K-State and KU is hurt by the fact that we have two BCS schools in a small state. Two weeks ago when K-State was playing Baylor and KU was playing Tech there were 50K at our game and 40K at KU's game. That's 90K total fans attending college football games in a state that doesn't have a ton of people, and those attendance stats weren't inflated with visiting fans. If Kansas only had one school like Nebraska, that school could play in a stadium that seats 75-80K and sellout every game.
not if the team sucked, which it probably would
Why would the team suck? K-State is ranked in the top 20 and KU has some pretty good playmakers on offense. I think the team would be pretty damn good, actually.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
:facepalm:
Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
I've been celebrating 66% on tests for years :thumbs:
There is a valid argument that attendance for K-State and KU is hurt by the fact that we have two BCS schools in a small state. Two weeks ago when K-State was playing Baylor and KU was playing Tech there were 50K at our game and 40K at KU's game. That's 90K total fans attending college football games in a state that doesn't have a ton of people, and those attendance stats weren't inflated with visiting fans. If Kansas only had one school like Nebraska, that school could play in a stadium that seats 75-80K and sellout every game.
not if the team sucked, which it probably would
What makes you think it would suck? Imagine if all of K-State's and KU's donors, resources, players, coaches etc were combined. That one school would have the support of the entire state, much like the state directly north of Kansas.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
:facepalm:
Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
I've been celebrating 66% on tests for years :thumbs:
There is a valid argument that attendance for K-State and KU is hurt by the fact that we have two BCS schools in a small state. Two weeks ago when K-State was playing Baylor and KU was playing Tech there were 50K at our game and 40K at KU's game. That's 90K total fans attending college football games in a state that doesn't have a ton of people, and those attendance stats weren't inflated with visiting fans. If Kansas only had one school like Nebraska, that school could play in a stadium that seats 75-80K and sellout every game.
not if the team sucked, which it probably would
Why would the team suck? K-State is ranked in the top 20 and KU has some pretty good playmakers on offense. I think the team would be pretty damn good, actually.
thats not how it works.
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Okay well then by that same logic, KSU has one of the best football teams and one of the best basketball teams in the country.
That's a situation I'll take, low relative population or not.
This isn't about the quality of football/basketball teams. This is about filling two stadiums that seat 50,000+.
His comment wasn't about the quality of football/basketball teams either. It was an analogy to show that labeling 33rd out of 50 as "one of the least populated" is dumb.
JFC.
:facepalm:
Is K-State one of the best football teams in the country right now? They're in the top 15% of D-1 teams.
Students, next time you get at 66% on a test even after you skipped yet another game, take solace in the fact that you got one of the highest scores possible on the test.
I've been celebrating 66% on tests for years :thumbs:
There is a valid argument that attendance for K-State and KU is hurt by the fact that we have two BCS schools in a small state. Two weeks ago when K-State was playing Baylor and KU was playing Tech there were 50K at our game and 40K at KU's game. That's 90K total fans attending college football games in a state that doesn't have a ton of people, and those attendance stats weren't inflated with visiting fans. If Kansas only had one school like Nebraska, that school could play in a stadium that seats 75-80K and sellout every game.
not if the team sucked, which it probably would
Why would the team suck? K-State is ranked in the top 20 and KU has some pretty good playmakers on offense. I think the team would be pretty damn good, actually.
thats not how it works.
Yes it is. Hell, take a look at West Virginia and Nebraska.
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What most ku folks can't seem to understand is, that any effort on the part of ku to actually do something in football during the last 10 years is directly attributed to k-state.
No K-State and the basketball only crowd rules the day in Lawrence.
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I would guess K-State was counting on Mizzou bringing some additional fans yesterday, rather than them sucking and their fans being more interested in staying home and doing meth while listening to the game on their transistor radios. Probably why you didn't see tiered pricing for this or games like the OU game.
The ticket office strategy is getting better. 5 years ago it was worse than it is now. They're finally using some seating area pricing differentiation.
$20 versus $40 or $50 makes a big difference when you're looking at a family of 4 or 5 going to a game. They should take that crappy end section away from the students, and sell those and the upper deck end section at a lower price.
The upper deck overall is OK and gives a nice view, but it does feel pretty isolated from the rest of the stadium. Wonder if that will improve with the expansion of the west side/pressbox.
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Look, I love Kansas... but it's not a very highly populated state. It's just not. Don't get all butthurt about it.
I don't love Kansas. It's the 33rd most populated state out of 50. Middle of the pack. I notice the same exaggeration tendencies when Frank does them too.
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Iowa has about 175K more people.
Iowa averages 70K a game.
ISU will put 53-54K into their place at the slightest hint of being good.
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Yes it is. Hell, take a look at West Virginia and Nebraska.
Look at Missouri. Look at Kentucky (Louisville has not been BCS for very long, and Kentucky has actually gotten better since Louisville was elevated). Look at Colorado.
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Look, I love Kansas... but it's not a very highly populated state. It's just not. Don't get all butthurt about it.
I don't love Kansas. It's the 33rd most populated state out of 50. Middle of the pack. I notice the same exaggeration tendencies when Frank does them too.
It's the least populated of any state with two BCS programs. Quit being so goddamn butthurt about it.
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Is that why they don't go to Memorial Stadium?
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Yes it is. Hell, take a look at West Virginia and Nebraska.
Look at Missouri. Look at Kentucky (Louisville has not been BCS for very long, and Kentucky has actually gotten better since Louisville was elevated). Look at Colorado.
Mizzou has been very good over the past several years. Kentucky plays in the SEC and has been to five bowls in a row. Colorado has a national title in football, and they're unique because they're located in a state where people don't really care about sports. Next.
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Is that why they don't go to Memorial Stadium?
wut
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I'm just trying to figure out your point, bro.
We have one section in the upper deck sparsely populated and you've turned this into a Rand McNally Census Bureau explanation.
5000 people below capacity? I guarantee you there are at least 5000 people in that parking lot tailgating the entire game. If not there are at least 5000 more people in Manhattan watching the TV or in their yard drinking or something. There are at least 5000 people in the state of Kansas at that same time.
Same thing with your stadium. Even though 39k showed up to Memorial Stadium for your homecoming I'm sure are another 12,000 somewhere local that could've gone but didn't.
Do you really think it's only about the OMG Kansas is such a small state and can't muster up a big enough fan base to completely fill a 50k stadium on a rainy Saturday afternoon? Isn't it more likely there's another explanation? Haven't KSU and KU been able to fill their stadiums before, perhaps even on the same weekend?
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Is that why they don't go to Memorial Stadium?
wut
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This explains why ku dominates the KC TV Market. Everyone stays at home to tune in. I guess you can't have it both ways.
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Look, I love Kansas... but it's not a very highly populated state. It's just not. Don't get all butthurt about it.
I don't love Kansas. It's the 33rd most populated state out of 50. Middle of the pack. I notice the same exaggeration tendencies when Frank does them too.
It's the least populated of any state with two BCS programs.
I agree.
Kansas is 33 out of 50 in terms of population, meaning it is indeed one of the least populated states in the country.
Disagree.
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Mississippi has about a 100K more people . . . BFD.
phog.net is perpetually blaming every ku failing on K-State, Ben is just a mouthpiece for that over here.
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So, do we eliminate the ku football program or do we give fanning a goEMAW owner business card and have him get to work on upping the KS population?
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Mississippi has about a 100K more people . . . BFD.
phog.net is perpetually blaming every ku failing on K-State, Ben is just a mouthpiece for that over here.
I'm not blaming anything on K-State. It's a fact that Kansas is the least populated state with two BCS programs. Quit complaining about a few empty seats and just enjoy 5-0 and top 20.
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The students in Bramlage now are way better than when you were in school. Weird, huh?
Thanks for making my point for me. Student sections at KSU kick ass when we are winning. Plain and simple. We saw it during the DoD and we saw it when Huggins showed up. The effect was immediate. Even though the Huggins team was fairly average, they won 20 games. The student participation turned amazing overnight. None of this "cultural" bullshit.
When I was in school, bball sucked and crowds were small. Now were good and crowds are big. Pretty simple.
This is why Saturday's crowd bothered me. We are good. Support the team. Just like bball. Just like the DoD. If we sucked, I would understand the apathy. As it is, I'm a little confused.
I disagree, the SS was better when Huggins came but people still didn't really know what was going on. For example, you don't have to be quiet when KSU is on offense in bball, but we were. SS is way better now than then for bb.
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Us students doing a "Lets go Wildcats" chant while our offense was lining up for the snap count made me extremely :dubious: and :shakesfist:
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Yes it is. Hell, take a look at West Virginia and Nebraska.
Look at Missouri. Look at Kentucky (Louisville has not been BCS for very long, and Kentucky has actually gotten better since Louisville was elevated). Look at Colorado.
Mizzou has been very good over the past several years. Kentucky plays in the SEC and has been to five bowls in a row. Colorado has a national title in football, and they're unique because they're located in a state where people don't really care about sports. Next.
Mizzou is a good, not great program. There is no reason both Kansas and Kansas State cannot be as good as Mizzou. How frequently did Kentucky go bowling when Louisville was not a member of the Big East? They certainly haven't gotten worse. Colorado is horrible, and nobody cares about national titles from 20+ years ago. Kansas State has next to no non-alumni fans. I really don't think KU would be any better or have significantly more fans if KSU were a midmajor.
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
Is it? Wear a KSU shirt in Central Texas and see how many blank stares you get until someone asks you why you're wearing a "Penn State shirt".
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I have no idea wtf you are rambling about super purp.
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Don't make me untuck my shirt.
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goddamn, this thread has gone terribly wrong.
we don't need to be bitching about how many people live in kansas, or how many BCS schools we have per capita. JFC no one cares if we have a large non-alumni fanbase. we don't, we probably never will. deal with it. we can't affect that stuff, but we can change the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) ticket pricing formula the AD uses right now. granted it is a lot better than 5 years ago, with the family packs and such, but it can still be better.
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
U do realize some of the upper deck seats require $1,000 minimun donation. :dubious:
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yeah, the students weren't great yesterday, but it was a pretty crappy day, with the rain and all, so most "normal" fans just went and :drink: in the parking lot or at their respective homes. the students don't concern me all that much, they'll show up this year, I fully expect a full student section for OU, aTm, and probably ISU.
That being said, the thing that does concern me is the fact that the AD feels the need to charge $50 :sdeek: for crappy upper deck, upper corner seats. if those seats cost $25 instead of $50, I would have gone, a lot of people like me probably would have gone. It's hard for me to shell out $100+ gas and food and all that stuff, to go to a game and sit in seats that are about as far away from the field as you can get.
In my mind pricing should be this:
lower bowl: $50 ($60 for premium games)
NEZ $35 ($45)
First ten rows of east side and all of the rows at midfield ($35) ($45)
Upper corners $25 always, there's no way they should ever charge more than $25 for those seats, ever.
U do realize some of the upper deck seats require $1,000 minimun donation. :dubious:
nope, but that is effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
Is it? Wear a KSU shirt in Central Texas and see how many blank stares you get until someone asks you why you're wearing a "Penn State shirt".
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lolwut
have you even lived in central texas?
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Check my GPS bro.
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There are two BCS schools in one of the least populated states in the country.
seems we should decide which one is the flagship of the state. Lets examine football records.
Do you know what you're talking about? eff that crap; they have a overall winning record over us! :bang:
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Check my GPS bro.
Well I grew up in Austin/San Marcos and the general attitude is that the dumbass t-shirt fans don't know where Kansas is, but most UT fans are like "please stop beating us" or "LOL have fun in the Mountain West Wheat Aggy LOLOLOLOL" I don't know what Aggies think about us because I try not to talk to them.
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
Is it? Wear a KSU shirt in Central Texas and see how many blank stares you get until someone asks you why you're wearing a "Penn State shirt".
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I've had this happen to me in Florida, however Texas seems like a stretch.
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It's not trust me. And I'm 30 minutes from Waco.
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Gosh dang it! Why are we bitching about a few empty seats in a over 50K stadium, because tix prices too high. Go to OSU game and see what there tix prices are... let me tell ya, they start at $85 bucks and that's for any shity seat in the rough ridin' statium. :curse:
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Gosh dang it! Why are we bitching about a few empty seats in a over 50K stadium, because tix prices too high. Go to OSU game and see what there tix prices are... let me tell ya, they start at $85 bucks and that's for any shity seat in the rough ridin' statium. :curse:
Oh by the way, after the expansion we'll be wishing for these tix prices we have now. :dubious:
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
Compared to KU, it isn't at all. If you took a poll of Wal Mart employees in just about any city in Kansas other than Manhattan and the surrounding area, what percentage do you think would prefer K-State to KU?
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
Compared to KU, it isn't at all. If you took a poll of Wal Mart employees in just about any city in Kansas other than Manhattan and the surrounding area, what percentage do you think would prefer K-State to KU?
We have some. And I'm proud of every single one.
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Saying ksu has little to none non alumni following is absurd.
Compared to KU, it isn't at all. If you took a poll of Wal Mart employees in just about any city in Kansas other than Manhattan and the surrounding area, what percentage do you think would prefer K-State to KU?
We have some. And I'm proud of every single one.
Oh, I have no problem with them, but there just aren't very many.
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Ag dudes tend to be KSU fans, regardless of whether they actually attended the school. People who attended Pitt St, ESU, JCCC, etc tend to be KU fans.
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what i got from this thread is if we allowed drinking in the stadium we'd easily sell out every game and prob need to expand by 10k.
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Look, I love Kansas... but it's not a very highly populated state. It's just not. Don't get all butthurt about it.
I don't love Kansas. It's the 33rd most populated state out of 50. Middle of the pack. I notice the same exaggeration tendencies when Frank does them too.
33 of 50 might sound like "middle of the pack", except that more than 20 of those 32 ahead have at least twice the population of Kansas, and many a lot more than that. More importantly, of states with smaller population, 12 have NO BCS schools, and none have two. There are two schools close in population, Ark which has one BCS school and Iowa with two [although, as pointed out, they have 150,000 more residents AND, are much closer to large population [Big Ten] states.
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Look, I love Kansas... but it's not a very highly populated state. It's just not. Don't get all butthurt about it.
I don't love Kansas. It's the 33rd most populated state out of 50. Middle of the pack. I notice the same exaggeration tendencies when Frank does them too.
33 of 50 might sound like "middle of the pack", except that more than 20 of those 32 ahead have at least twice the population of Kansas, and many a lot more than that. More importantly, of states with smaller population, 12 have NO BCS schools, and none have two. There are two schools close in population, Ark which has one BCS school and Iowa with two [although, as pointed out, they have 150,000 more residents AND, are much closer to large population [Big Ten] states.
46-50 on a list of 50 are the least ___________ of whatever the list is. 33 out of 50 is middle of the pack of whatever the list is.
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The student section is a different animal. I'd actually like to see its size reduced by one section if it's not filled from this point forward. Use it or lose it. If you want to buy a ticket and stay in the parking lot drinking or playing a game of corn hole in your front yard instead of attending, that's cool. We just need to eliminate the 750 or so seats from the student section that have been consistently never filled for the last 10 years and open them up for season ticket sales. The AD knows they can oversell to the students if they don't want to show up and I'm cool with it. They can sit on the grass in an overflow scenario like they used to.
We're losing out on a substantial amount of high revenue generating seats at midfield that we could be capitalizing on. Might as well sell them to season ticket holders and keep the lower bowl of the stadium full.
Under the "use it or lose it" theory, shouldn't the section taken away from the students be the shitty one that's furthest north that nobody wants to sit in? I don't think you can assume that the same number of students will show up (assuming football quality/atmosphere stays generally where it's been) and slide one section over with 1/5 of them being shoved into the section that's barely in the stadium, regardless of how nice it would be for people like us to be able to slide into section 24 at midfield.
here's the fact about those empty seats. people aren't stupid and those are crap seats. students are going to a) cram together in better seats and/or b) go find empties that are better around the stadium to sit it. of course those shitty seats are going to be empty.
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The student section is a different animal. I'd actually like to see its size reduced by one section if it's not filled from this point forward. Use it or lose it. If you want to buy a ticket and stay in the parking lot drinking or playing a game of corn hole in your front yard instead of attending, that's cool. We just need to eliminate the 750 or so seats from the student section that have been consistently never filled for the last 10 years and open them up for season ticket sales. The AD knows they can oversell to the students if they don't want to show up and I'm cool with it. They can sit on the grass in an overflow scenario like they used to.
We're losing out on a substantial amount of high revenue generating seats at midfield that we could be capitalizing on. Might as well sell them to season ticket holders and keep the lower bowl of the stadium full.
Under the "use it or lose it" theory, shouldn't the section taken away from the students be the shitty one that's furthest north that nobody wants to sit in? I don't think you can assume that the same number of students will show up (assuming football quality/atmosphere stays generally where it's been) and slide one section over with 1/5 of them being shoved into the section that's barely in the stadium, regardless of how nice it would be for people like us to be able to slide into section 24 at midfield.
here's the fact about those empty seats. people aren't stupid and those are crap seats. students are going to a) cram together in better seats and/or b) go find empties that are better around the stadium to sit it. of course those shitty seats are going to be empty.
They should be like a minor-league baseball stadium's party deck seats and let BYOB boozecats in for $30.
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They should be like a minor-league baseball stadium's party deck seats and let BYOB boozecats in for $30.
Would transfer seats tomorrow :cheers:
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They should be like a minor-league baseball stadium's party deck seats and let BYOB boozecats in for $30.
Would transfer seats tomorrow :cheers:
I bet the website would buy 30-50 for entertaining our high profile clients.
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Looks like I need to raise ticket prices for TUB 28.