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Title: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: CHONGS on September 28, 2011, 10:18:16 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 35
Kansas State 36
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: kim carnes on September 28, 2011, 10:19:46 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 31
Kansas State 35

what does chingDEX think?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: CHONGS on September 28, 2011, 10:25:22 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 31
Kansas State 35

what does chingDEX think?
Baylor 43
Kansas State 31
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Panjandrum on September 28, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
How does home vs. away factor into your rankings?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: CHONGS on September 28, 2011, 10:28:03 PM
How does home vs. away factor into your rankings?
+1.5 points to home team
-1.5 points to visitor
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Pendergast on September 28, 2011, 10:28:17 PM
Baylor 41
Kansas State 37

Another quick start from the cats, but this time RG3 scores in the last two minutes. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: jtksu on September 28, 2011, 10:30:31 PM
36-34, Kats.  RG3 is hobbled much of the game after a sack by Meshak or Davis.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
Cats 28
Bears 42
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
3-2 Kats!!! :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DQ12 on September 28, 2011, 10:41:55 PM
35-34

So it is written...
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 28, 2011, 10:43:07 PM
35-34

So it is written...


Blocked extra point at the end?  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DQ12 on September 28, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
35-34

So it is written...


Blocked extra point at the end?  :crossfingers:
I don't think so. 
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 28, 2011, 10:45:51 PM
45-38 K-State  :ksu:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: nicname on September 28, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
How does home vs. away factor into your rankings?
+1.5 points to home team
-1.5 points to visitor

A three point differential.

When making predictos I usually give a percentage chance for KSU (i dont predict other games) to win if game was at a neutral site.  Then I add 10% if we are at home or subtract 10% for a roadie.  For instance, BU is prob a little better than KSU so 45% chance at a win if neutral, BUT THE GAME IS AT THE LHC Bill Snyder FAMILY TERRORDOME SO WE GET AN EXTRA 10% BOOST!!!!!!!!!! 

That means K-State is the favorites winning 55%  of the times.

Boom.

My system is very accurate.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: SdK on September 29, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
 :lynchmob: 31 and by a touchdown
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: k-state87 on September 29, 2011, 01:57:03 AM
K-State 27
Baylor 13

 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Trim on September 29, 2011, 07:41:10 AM
Nap at 3:20.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Boom Roasted on September 29, 2011, 08:06:38 AM
42 - 38  Cats
 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: wes mantooth on September 29, 2011, 08:09:00 AM
What does the prophet KSUNathan say?

I say Cats 45 Baylor 33
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Acceleration Man on September 29, 2011, 08:23:50 AM
41-28.

We'll be down by about 3 touchdowns until somewhere in the 4th quarter, where we score one close the gap slightly.

Everyone here will be calling for Cosh's head again, in large part because of the soft zone coverage which alternately allows long pass plays/big runs.

 :frown:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Bookcat on September 29, 2011, 08:35:11 AM
most of you are being total pussies...


KSU 35
Baylor 32
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: _33 on September 29, 2011, 08:40:03 AM
Baylor 41
K-State 21

But it was tied 21-21 at one point.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: KITNfury on September 29, 2011, 08:54:37 AM
38 - 34 Ekocats
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: dmartin on September 29, 2011, 08:55:57 AM
Cats 28
Bears 7

RG3 gets the colt mccoy treatment in the second baylor series after lighting us up for a long TD in the first series.  Baylor falls apart after that.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: AbeFroman on September 29, 2011, 09:30:08 AM
 :kstatriot: - 31
The Branch Davidians - 27

Basically the same type of game vs. Miami. Good defense at the end prevents TD and we win by 4.

Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: CNS on September 29, 2011, 09:38:08 AM
Cats 28
Bears 7

RG3 gets the colt mccoy treatment in the second baylor series after lighting us up for a long TD in the first series.  Baylor falls apart after that.

This is the only scenario in which it is feasible that BU doesn't score at least in the mid to high twenties.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: bws on September 29, 2011, 09:40:22 AM

K-State 41 Baylor 30

Hubert goes for 150
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Coley on September 29, 2011, 09:55:15 AM

K-State - 41

Baylor - 27
 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2011, 10:01:33 AM
How many possessions is Baylor going to get if we run the ball 80 yards every possession?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: SdK on September 29, 2011, 12:27:02 PM
How many possessions is Baylor going to get if we run the ball 80 yards every possession?

4
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Winters on September 29, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
I think we blow them out by 3
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: jtksu on September 29, 2011, 01:54:06 PM
Would take.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: bigwillie20 on September 29, 2011, 02:00:21 PM
Would take.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: OK_Cat on September 29, 2011, 02:04:34 PM
the only way we're winning this game is if RG3 is struck by lightning.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: jtksu on September 29, 2011, 02:08:02 PM
Bet you said the same thing about Miami/Jacory, didn't you?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2011, 02:10:07 PM
How many possessions is Baylor going to get if we run the ball 80 yards every possession?

4

Then they score 35 points, max.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: HeinBallz on September 29, 2011, 02:13:03 PM
Can the ChingDEX factor in Saturday being a windy bitch & OBZ's cockiness/arrogance? 


Is there such a thing as old man swagger?   If there is, OB would have it this year, no?   Has to factor in somehow.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: jtksu on September 29, 2011, 02:14:02 PM
Windy bitch day would play to our strength, right?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: bigwillie20 on September 29, 2011, 02:17:55 PM
the only way we're winning this game is if RG3 is struck by lightning.

what you did there...i see it
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Bill Clarahan on September 29, 2011, 02:43:36 PM
 :kstatriot: win by 8


So it is written
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: wazucat on September 29, 2011, 06:58:33 PM
Hubert's revenge: home town record setter, snubbed by da Bears, runs for two bills +,  in the Bill, Cats by nine  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: pissclams on September 29, 2011, 07:00:35 PM
seriously its like some of you clowns forget we're playing baylor on saturday.  it's baylor damn it.

k-state wins 35-24
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: kstater on September 29, 2011, 07:08:58 PM
Windy bitch day would play to our strength, right?

Yes, but it's not gonna be windy.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2011, 07:44:35 PM
How does home vs. away factor into your rankings?
+1.5 points to home team
-1.5 points to visitor

how scientific :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2011, 07:46:31 PM
Cats 38
Baylor 24

gmafb
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2011, 08:26:21 PM
Revised ChiRP predicto:

Baylor 32
Kansas State 22

sorry guys I would tell you the real ChiRP prediction formula,  but the big wigs here make me keep than info on the Premiere board.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2011, 09:22:43 PM
Revised ChiRP predicto:

Baylor 32
Kansas State 22

sorry guys I would tell you the real ChiRP prediction formula,  but the big wigs here make me keep than info on the Premiere board.

take the EKU game out of the computer and predict the score, dolt

no one give a eff about your backward looking computer, we're looking ahead.  if your model doesn't incorporate projections its not a model at all, any idiot can transpose numbers into a computer, it's the forecaster that gets paid

goEMAW, it's amateur hour 24/7/365

Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Katpappy on September 29, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
seriously its like some of you clowns forget we're playing baylor on saturday.  it's baylor damn it.

k-state wins 35-24
+1  :cheers:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: PowercatPat on September 29, 2011, 10:05:58 PM
38-28 Bears
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Jackie Moon on September 30, 2011, 12:15:21 AM
the fighting wildshats- 41

RG3 and co.-38

the field is then rushed
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: scottwildcat on September 30, 2011, 12:20:03 AM
the fighting wildshats- 41

RG3 and co.-38

the field is then rushed

top 10 dumbest prediction in the history of KSU message boards
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 30, 2011, 01:16:40 AM
the fighting wildshats- 41

RG3 and co.-38

the field is then rushed

top 10 dumbest prediction in the history of KSU message boards

How effing embarrassing would that be though? Good Gawd that would suck.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DoDRepeat on September 30, 2011, 03:48:42 AM
K-State 62
Baylor 34
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 30, 2011, 07:16:14 AM
Bear Aggies: 45
Wild Wildcats: 24
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 30, 2011, 09:17:23 AM
Guys, there is really no rough ridin' way we lose this game.  No rough ridin' way.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: theKSU on September 30, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
Bears 28
BearKHATZ 31
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: puniraptor on September 30, 2011, 10:41:57 AM
mobbin kats - 35
bear cultists - 20
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Kat Kid on September 30, 2011, 10:42:58 AM
I am watching this one at home.  Or should I Houli-pak it?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: ksucrcoop on September 30, 2011, 10:45:34 AM
Qats - 34

Burs- 28




Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: g2brg on September 30, 2011, 10:55:01 AM
CATS 45

bears 27

Klein and Hubert grind out a combined 300 yds.

Arthut and company w/ 3 sacks and 2 oskies

Sean gets the special teams going, 1 big return

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: The Manhatter on September 30, 2011, 11:09:15 AM
K-State 38
Baylor  27
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Kermit on September 30, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
Greg Roberts w/ Consensus 900 just said the wrong team is favored in this one.  Took the Cats straight up.   :driving:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Bookcat on September 30, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
Greg Roberts w/ Consensus 900 just said the wrong team is favored in this one.  Took the Cats straight up.   :driving:

Baylor's running D is their achillies. They escaped a home game shootout vs. the only team with a running game and D to speak of.  SHould have lost after being down 15.. but RGIII had a career night.

Baylor is on the road so their offense will still be good..but not record setting...It'll be a nail biter going in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: _33 on September 30, 2011, 11:15:17 AM
We can't pressure the QB. The QB we are playing has more TD's than incompletions. How are we going to win?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: The Manhatter on September 30, 2011, 11:34:11 AM
We can't pressure the QB. The QB we are playing has more TD's than incompletions. How are we going to win?

 :facepalm:

1) if you can stop the running game with only your front 7 personnel then pressuring the QB is less significant.  We're more concerned about contain than outright pressure.

2) He has more TDs than incompletions because a) he's played Rice and Sam Houston (not to mention TCU's defense is nothing special this year if you've seen their other games) and b) they use a lot of bubble screens.  Their run game is more of a demand for lesser defenses so it requires more help from the back 7.  He's been throwing long more this year than in previous years but see a and part of b for that reasoning.  Still, if you employ bubble screens as a strong part of your offense you're still going to get a lot of completions.  Getting big yards on those types of plays is easier vs. Rice and Sam Houston than vs KState.

3) I guess you didn't see Baylor play against teams with winning records last year.  Illinois, Ok State, and aTm really had their way with them and Baylor has the same personnel less a potential 1st-2nd round receiver that left the team shortly before the season and a 1st rd pick playing at LT last year. 

4) Never underestimate what a defense can do when they're strong up the middle (we are strong at nose, mike, and safeties) and have LBs that can make plays in space in both the running game and passing game (we have those capabilities).

Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: _33 on September 30, 2011, 11:44:44 AM
Why did you facepalm me?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: The Manhatter on September 30, 2011, 12:00:44 PM
Why did you facepalm me?

I apologize. 

Defending solid QBs isn't just about rushing the passer.  If you start eliminating other things they can do (like their run game or RG3's effectiveness leaving the pocket) you funnel that offense into a set of limitations from which they will be forced to operate the remainder of the game.  If you look, statistically, in recent seasons at many of the better defenses they are not necessarily great, shoot, some would not even be considered good at rushing the passer.  And it's not just about the front 4 bringing pressure.  Trust me, if we eliminate their running game with our front 7 personnel and we're effective at cutting off RG3's emergency lanes then you're going to handcuff him and his offense. 

Alabama is a great example...they systematically start removing things you can do offensively without generating great pressure on the QB...some years they are better than others.

That being said, it's always FAVORABLE to have a pass rush because you don't have to be quite as sound in other areas.  But take away a few things and the offense starts becoming handicapped.

Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: bradleigh on September 30, 2011, 12:38:05 PM

1) if you can stop the running game with only your front 7 personnel then pressuring the QB is less significant.  We're more concerned about contain than outright pressure.


I understand this concept, but I've been scratching my head all week because Harris just stood backed there and picked us apart when we did that.  Seems like there needs to be some way to pressure the QB into mistakes.  What I ultimately decided on is that our approach was to try to make them eventually beat themselves by making them run a lot of plays and to just keep them from scoring on big plays.  Of course if that was the strategy we didn't execute it.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2011, 12:39:33 PM
Why did you facepalm me?
 because you're an idiot JFC

manhatter i FYP
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Coley on September 30, 2011, 01:00:35 PM
when it's all said and done, it's still BAYLOR. our cat's got this. it's at home.  :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: _33 on September 30, 2011, 01:10:56 PM
Why did you facepalm me?

I apologize. 

Defending solid QBs isn't just about rushing the passer.  If you start eliminating other things they can do (like their run game or RG3's effectiveness leaving the pocket) you funnel that offense into a set of limitations from which they will be forced to operate the remainder of the game.  If you look, statistically, in recent seasons at many of the better defenses they are not necessarily great, shoot, some would not even be considered good at rushing the passer.  And it's not just about the front 4 bringing pressure.  Trust me, if we eliminate their running game with our front 7 personnel and we're effective at cutting off RG3's emergency lanes then you're going to handcuff him and his offense. 

Alabama is a great example...they systematically start removing things you can do offensively without generating great pressure on the QB...some years they are better than others.

That being said, it's always FAVORABLE to have a pass rush because you don't have to be quite as sound in other areas.  But take away a few things and the offense starts becoming handicapped.



Oh, OK. It just seemed like an impressive statistic.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: The Manhatter on September 30, 2011, 01:49:48 PM

1) if you can stop the running game with only your front 7 personnel then pressuring the QB is less significant.  We're more concerned about contain than outright pressure.


I understand this concept, but I've been scratching my head all week because Harris just stood backed there and picked us apart when we did that.  Seems like there needs to be some way to pressure the QB into mistakes.  What I ultimately decided on is that our approach was to try to make them eventually beat themselves by making them run a lot of plays and to just keep them from scoring on big plays.  Of course if that was the strategy we didn't execute it.  :dunno:

we had more assistance up near the line once Miller popped one on us.  Even before that we had some help near the line in certain situations.  And we played with a double digit lead for a large portion of the game.  We played some of that game on the side of caution with corners off the line 10 yards and backpedaling at the snap.  We conceded some deep middle stuff and he did hange a nice one over A. Brown on a deep seam with the TE.

It surprises me that people think Harris can't throw...he averaged 270 per game passing last season and is a senior.  He was going to get his.  The thing people get fixated on with Harris is that he's turnover prone, and he is...but he'll get his yards down the field as well. 

I don't think Baylor is suiting up anybody at RB this week that scares the hell out of us nor is their ground game considered to be that of Miami, not straight up at least.

Remember, too, that QBs have a clock in their heads before they start looking for more room to buy time.  Once he moves in the pocket or away from the pocket the dynamics of the pass blocking change.  Pressure can materialize from that movement.  Again, the biggest key is to stop the run with the front 7 and CONTAIN him to the pocket.  I think we would much rather him throw in the pocket vs. 7 then get out of the pocket.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Catchacold on September 30, 2011, 06:14:46 PM
fake punt
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DQ12 on October 01, 2011, 07:43:46 PM
:users:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: CHONGS on October 01, 2011, 07:51:25 PM
:gocho:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DQ12 on October 01, 2011, 07:59:12 PM
Ahem...

:users:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 01, 2011, 08:03:57 PM
Ahem...

:users:

Prophetlew12
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 01, 2011, 08:13:23 PM
35-34

So it is written...


jesus christ. this is getting really weird. i think we need to talk.  :comehere:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: kstater on October 01, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
Dlew is the guy that nailed the U score right?
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 01, 2011, 08:15:08 PM
Dlew is the guy that nailed the U score right?

That's him.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: AbeFroman on October 01, 2011, 08:22:51 PM
Jfc. I hope you keep this crap up :love:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DQ12 on October 01, 2011, 08:32:56 PM
To be fair, in my original season predictos, I think I said we'd win by four.

Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: pc5k on October 01, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 35
Kansas State 36

Not bad man, but your soul of wind and wishful thinking is more accurate than the chirp.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: DQ12 on October 01, 2011, 08:52:00 PM
Good job Chingon! 
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 01, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 35
Kansas State 36

Not bad man, but your soul of wind and wishful thinking is more accurate than the chirp.

Wow. Did not remember that.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: jtksu on October 01, 2011, 09:25:49 PM
Damn, Chings got me by a pt.  That SOB!
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Katpappy on October 01, 2011, 09:30:46 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 35
Kansas State 36
Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking... winner, winner chicken dinner!   :cheers:
Chingon's Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP)... just sucks.  I recommend you take a sledge hammer to it.  :flush:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 01, 2011, 09:33:25 PM
Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP):
Baylor 40
Kansas State 30

Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking
Baylor 35
Kansas State 36
Chingon's Soul of Wind and Wishful Thinking... winner, winner chicken dinner!   :cheers:
Chingon's Cold uncaring computer heart (from ChiRP)... just sucks.  I recommend you take a sledge hammer to it.  :flush:

Computers can't comprehend the capabilities of 5 heart players.
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: nicname on October 01, 2011, 09:35:21 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Katpappy on October 01, 2011, 09:36:38 PM
seriously its like some of you clowns forget we're playing baylor on saturday.  it's baylor damn it.

k-state wins 35-24
Say it again brother!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Katpappy on October 01, 2011, 09:43:58 PM
Guys, there is really no rough ridin' way we lose this game.  No rough ridin' way.
U're a prophet and didn't know it.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: pissclams on October 02, 2011, 12:21:35 PM
seriously its like some of you clowns forget we're playing baylor on saturday.  it's baylor damn it.

k-state wins 35-24
Title: Re: Official Baylor Predictos
Post by: Kat Kid on October 02, 2011, 12:24:21 PM
Dlew is the guy that nailed the U score right?

he is so much more than that kstater.  So much more.