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Stats to think about from last year.
Points scored: 37.3 PPG at home - 25.9 PPG on the road
Total offense: 530 YPG at home - 428 YPG on the road
Offense YPP: 6.9 YPP at home - 6.3 YPP on the road
Rush offense: 237 YPG at home - 158 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 6.0 YPC at home - 4.8 YPC on the road
Pass offense: 293 YPG at hom - 270 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 7.8 YPA at home - 7.7 YPA on the road
Points allowed: 25.5 PPG at home - 34.7 PPG on the road
Total defense: 348 YPG at home - 511 YPG on the road
Defense YPP: 4.9 YPP at home - 6.6 YPP on the road
Rush defense: 119 YPG at home - 214 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 3.3 YPC at home - 5.2 YPC on the road
Pass defense: 229 YPG at home - 296 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.4 YPA at home - 8.2 YPA on the road
I will give Baylor some credit, they have been winning some on the road, namely @CU and @UT last year plus @MU the year before. But this team has drastic differences in how they perform on the road compared to at home, especially against the run and this plays right into our strength.
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pfffttt, now do our stats from last year
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I think there is some truth the the thought that it takes programs time to learn how to win on the road. Baylor may be ready to turn that curve, but it takes a lot of consistency and tweaking your preparations to make that a reality at the highest levels, and Briles may still be working on that.
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pfffttt, now do our stats from last year
:surprised:
Points scored: 27.0 PPG at home - 39.3 PPG on the road
Total offense: 336 YPG at home - 415 YPG on the road
Offense YPP: 5.2 YPP at home - 6.3 YPP on the road
Rush offense: 192 YPG at home - 206 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 4.6 YPC at home - 4.8 YPC on the road
Pass offense: 144 YPG at hom - 209 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.4 YPA at home - 9.3 YPA on the road
Points allowed: 24.2 PPG at home - 33.3 PPG on the road
Total defense: 436 YPG at home - 454 YPG on the road
Defense YPP: 6.1 YPP at home - 6.7 YPP on the road
Rush defense: 236 YPG at home - 228 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 6.0 YPC at home - 5.9 YPC on the road
Pass defense: 200 YPG at home - 227 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.2 YPA at home - 7.7 YPA on the road
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pfffttt, now do our stats from last year
:surprised:
Points scored: 27.0 PPG at home - 39.3 PPG on the road
Total offense: 336 YPG at home - 415 YPG on the road
Offense YPP: 5.2 YPP at home - 6.3 YPP on the road
Rush offense: 192 YPG at home - 206 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 4.6 YPC at home - 4.8 YPC on the road
Pass offense: 144 YPG at hom - 209 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.4 YPA at home - 9.3 YPA on the road
Points allowed: 24.2 PPG at home - 33.3 PPG on the road
Total defense: 436 YPG at home - 454 YPG on the road
Defense YPP: 6.1 YPP at home - 6.7 YPP on the road
Rush defense: 236 YPG at home - 228 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 6.0 YPC at home - 5.9 YPC on the road
Pass defense: 200 YPG at home - 227 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.2 YPA at home - 7.7 YPA on the road
Wow that KU game really skews our road stats.
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pfffttt, now do our stats from last year
:surprised:
Points scored: 27.0 PPG at home - 39.3 PPG on the road
Total offense: 336 YPG at home - 415 YPG on the road
Offense YPP: 5.2 YPP at home - 6.3 YPP on the road
Rush offense: 192 YPG at home - 206 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 4.6 YPC at home - 4.8 YPC on the road
Pass offense: 144 YPG at hom - 209 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.4 YPA at home - 9.3 YPA on the road
Points allowed: 24.2 PPG at home - 33.3 PPG on the road
Total defense: 436 YPG at home - 454 YPG on the road
Defense YPP: 6.1 YPP at home - 6.7 YPP on the road
Rush defense: 236 YPG at home - 228 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 6.0 YPC at home - 5.9 YPC on the road
Pass defense: 200 YPG at home - 227 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.2 YPA at home - 7.7 YPA on the road
Wow that KU game really skews our road stats.
And the darn CORNHOLES
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Wow that KU game really skews our road stats.
Baylor, Colorado, and North Texas as well.
I suppose it shows a years worth of stats can be pretty messed up based on your schedule balance of good/bad teams. Probably shoots my "hoping to make us feel good" theory out of the water.
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Wow that KU game really skews our road stats.
Baylor, Colorado, and North Texas as well.
I suppose it shows a years worth of stats can be pretty messed up based on your schedule balance of good/bad teams. Probably shoots my "hoping to make us feel good" theory out of the water.
I knew North Texas was in there as well, but yeah that is not a tough group of roadies.
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Wow that KU game really skews our road stats.
Baylor, Colorado, and North Texas as well.
I suppose it shows a years worth of stats can be pretty messed up based on your schedule balance of good/bad teams. Probably shoots my "hoping to make us feel good" theory out of the water.
I knew North Texas was in there as well, but yeah that is not a tough group of roadies.
And Baylor's home and road schedules were actually pretty balanced between good/bad teams.
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we'll score on Baylor but will it be enough. come to the Bill this Saturday and find out. :drink: :driving:
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Yeah is there anyway this game isn't a track meet? I'm really looking forward to it, should be entertaining. I'm hoping that we are able to go on some long 8 minute 80 yard drives to keep RG off the field as much as possilbe.
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Never thought I'd see the day we give up 400+ yards up at home on average. God we were bad.
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Never thought I'd see the day we give up 400+ yards up at home on average. God we were bad.
but now we got A. Brown, Kibble, Malone, Garret, Meshak....they're improving. Now, if we hold Baylor under 350 yards of offense i"ll be impressed.
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Yeah is there anyway this game isn't a track meet? I'm really looking forward to it, should be entertaining. I'm hoping that we are able to go on some long 8 minute 80 yard drives to keep RG off the field as much as possilbe.
man. almost wishes KU would let us play this game at their stadium. since, it has a track around it. big oval.
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Yeah is there anyway this game isn't a track meet? I'm really looking forward to it, should be entertaining. I'm hoping that we are able to go on some long 8 minute 80 yard drives to keep RG off the field as much as possilbe.
man. almost wishes KU would let us play this game at their stadium. since, it has a track around it. big oval.
_FAN:
1. Is time of possession overrated when playing a team like Baylor or TTU that only needs 15 seconds to score?
2. How many points is home field advantage worth for the KSUCats in this contest? Is there a statistical way to quantify this for those of us watching at home?
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pfffttt, now do our stats from last year
:surprised:
Points scored: 27.0 PPG at home - 39.3 PPG on the road
Total offense: 336 YPG at home - 415 YPG on the road
Offense YPP: 5.2 YPP at home - 6.3 YPP on the road
Rush offense: 192 YPG at home - 206 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 4.6 YPC at home - 4.8 YPC on the road
Pass offense: 144 YPG at hom - 209 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.4 YPA at home - 9.3 YPA on the road
Points allowed: 24.2 PPG at home - 33.3 PPG on the road
Total defense: 436 YPG at home - 454 YPG on the road
Defense YPP: 6.1 YPP at home - 6.7 YPP on the road
Rush defense: 236 YPG at home - 228 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 6.0 YPC at home - 5.9 YPC on the road
Pass defense: 200 YPG at home - 227 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.2 YPA at home - 7.7 YPA on the road
If only we were on the Road against Baylor on the Road this weekend (think neutral site game). :aweshucks:
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Last year I had this to say (http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=394) following our disappointing loss in Waco. Baylor gained 683 total yards last year (our worst total of the year) at 9.0 yards per play (our 2nd worst YPP).
The first 10 Baylor drives over basically the first 3 quarters featured:
9 plays of 20 yards or more.
6 plays of 30 yards or more.
3 plays of 40 yards or more.
7 touchdowns and 2 field goals.
615 total yards on 62 plays (basically a first down every snap)
As I rewatched the game last year I focused on 3 things; defensive alignment, execution, and players. I am certain we are better in all 3 areas on the defensive side of the ball. 1st, the move from a 4-2-5 to a 4-3 was sound and allows us to be in better position to make plays at the snap. So far we have also shown better execution, but in large part thats because we have better players, especially at linebacker and on the defensive line.
That said, it will still be difficult to slow Baylor down, but I see this more as a first to 30 game as opposed to first to 40 like it was last year. I am very confident our front 7 will do a much better job slowing down Baylor's running game, it will really come down to our secondary making plays. I think we will make enough to send the Bears home with a loss.
Cats 38
Bears 34
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Last year I had this to say (http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=394) following our disappointing loss in Waco. Baylor gained 683 total yards last year (our worst total of the year) at 9.0 yards per play (our 2nd worst YPP).
The first 10 Baylor drives over basically the first 3 quarters featured:
9 plays of 20 yards or more.
6 plays of 30 yards or more.
3 plays of 40 yards or more.
7 touchdowns and 2 field goals.
615 total yards on 62 plays (basically a first down every snap)
As I rewatched the game last year I focused on 3 things; defensive alignment, execution, and players. I am certain we are better in all 3 areas on the defensive side of the ball. 1st, the move from a 4-2-5 to a 4-3 was sound and allows us to be in better position to make plays at the snap. So far we have also shown better execution, but in large part thats because we have better players, especially at linebacker and on the defensive line.
That said, it will still be difficult to slow Baylor down, but I see this more as a first to 30 game as opposed to first to 40 like it was last year. I am very confident our front 7 will do a much better job slowing down Baylor's running game, it will really come down to our secondary making plays. I think we will make enough to send the Bears home with a loss.
Cats 38
Bears 34
:moreira:
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Stats to think about from last year.
Points scored: 37.3 PPG at home - 25.9 PPG on the road
Total offense: 530 YPG at home - 428 YPG on the road
Offense YPP: 6.9 YPP at home - 6.3 YPP on the road
Rush offense: 237 YPG at home - 158 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 6.0 YPC at home - 4.8 YPC on the road
Pass offense: 293 YPG at hom - 270 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 7.8 YPA at home - 7.7 YPA on the road
Points allowed: 25.5 PPG at home - 34.7 PPG on the road
Total defense: 348 YPG at home - 511 YPG on the road
Defense YPP: 4.9 YPP at home - 6.6 YPP on the road
Rush defense: 119 YPG at home - 214 YPG on the road
Rush YPC: 3.3 YPC at home - 5.2 YPC on the road
Pass defense: 229 YPG at home - 296 YPG on the road
Pass YPA: 6.4 YPA at home - 8.2 YPA on the road
I will give Baylor some credit, they have been winning some on the road, namely @CU and @UT last year plus @MU the year before. But this team has drastic differences in how they perform on the road compared to at home, especially against the run and this plays right into our strength.
Baylor fan here. A couple things make me feel it's not a home/road thing for us.
1- Take away the 4 big outliers and lets redo the #s. (70 yard home games vs you and the beakers, the 1-aa school we played, and the absolute egg we laid at TCU)
We are now left with home contests vs Buffalo, A&M, OU. 2 good Ds and 1 bad. Average is 452 ypg
Now look at road/neutral site games vs Rice, CU, Texas Tech, UT, OSU, and Illinois. New average is 455.83
So when you look at things that way, it's not some big difference. Our offense would have lit up the beakers in Lawrence just the same as we would have scored a ton on CU if it was in Waco. Defensively it's simply a matter of having played teams like OSU, TCU, Tech, Illinois, and a CU offense that matched up well with us all on the road. These teams, Rice, and Texas averaged 424 per game for the season. The 5 FBS schools we had home games against averaged 379 per game. Had everything to do with caliber of opponent, not home/road.
As for it affecting us against the run...
TCU, Ok State, and Illinois were by far the best run teams we faced. They each averaged between 5.8, 6.06, and OSU got 7.44 against our 2010 D when no other team got more than 4.8. All 3 were on the road so that explains the entire discrepancy.
I could go on and on. Fact is our offense hadn't gelled by the time we had played TCU and like most teams slowed down against Texas and OU. Everyone else we had at least 430 against. Defense was horrible last year and while still struggling looks to have improved a little bit.
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Word up WordUp. :eye:
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I could go on and on. Fact is our offense hadn't gelled by the time we had played TCU and like most teams slowed down against Texas and OU. Everyone else we had at least 430 against. Defense was horrible last year and while still struggling looks to have improved a little bit.
Fair enough.
I do think Baylor will get 450+ tomorrow on offense FWIW. I just think we have athletes on defense capable of getting a few stops and/or forcing some TOs that we didn't have last year. Plus, its in Manhattan.
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Last year I had this to say (http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=394) following our disappointing loss in Waco. Baylor gained 683 total yards last year (our worst total of the year) at 9.0 yards per play (our 2nd worst YPP).
The first 10 Baylor drives...
...As I rewatched the game last year I focused on 3 things; defensive alignment, execution, and players. I am certain we are better in all 3 areas on the defensive side of the ball. 1st, the move from a 4-2-5 to a 4-3 was sound and allows us to be in better position to make plays at the snap. So far we have also shown better execution, but in large part thats because we have better players, especially at linebacker and on the defensive line.
That said, it will still be difficult to slow Baylor down, but I see this more as a first to 30 game as opposed to first to 40 like it was last year. I am very confident our front 7 will do a much better job slowing down Baylor's running game, it will really come down to our secondary making plays. I think we will make enough to send the Bears home with a loss.
Cats 38
Bears 34
I saw you guys vs Miami and I think you guys have a better DT and MLB but the rest of the front 7 looks to be pretty much the same caliber overall. Lamur and Childs are a wash, the other ILB played some against us last year, and one of your DE talent looks the same overall as a unit. I don't see some Darren Howard type emerging when I watched the Miami game.
I remember last year the QB read plays really hurt you not only against us and NU but even less pass capable UCLA and UCF offenses. This is one concern I would have if I was a Cat fan as what evidence do you have this weakness has been shored up? Miami didn't use designed QB runs much if at all and the other 2 offenses are ranked worse than 100th in each of the FBS (Kent St) and FCS (EKU). So you may be in better position defensively but have you been tested by the main weaknesses that killed you last year?
I would also worry about how you weren't able to get consistent pressure on Harris. Our OL is very good and kept TCU's DLine and blitzes away from RG3. Yeah you can try to keep him in the pocket but he'll pick you apart if you do as he'll have plenty of time and I don't think your DBs are worlds better than last year or TCU who has a similar setup with a very quick returning CB and a well regarded JUCO opposite him. These 2 factors project favorably for the Baylor offense.
You guys have a very good QB read run game and I am thankful that both TCU and Rice were on our schedule as both TCU's Pachall and Rice's McHargue run the same read option stuff and will have given us some good looks. Stopping that will be tough for us however I do think that TCU was a superior passing team to KSU at this point with better WR like Boyce and Dawson.
Miami was a good win but for all your offensive success against them I wonder 2 things about that defense:
1- They kind of played into your hand by keeping fewer guys in the box usually. Gave favorable numbers to option off of and you made em pay. Good job but I wonder if Bennett is going to give you such favorable fronts.
2- Who else they played. Ohio State's offense is horrendous this year if you can't tell. They scored on CU's D but so did KU last year. They ran up stats on a pathetic Akron team and were held in check for the most part by Toledo of all people. Maryland's offense gutted the Miami D completely and without mercy and MD is ranked 62 total offense and was just dominated by temple. (which I am sure went over well with Coach Golden to see his former team destroy a team that spoiled his UM debut.)
So we have 2 cupcakes for KSU and a Miami team with some good players but honestly a complete failing grade on the one other balanced offense they faced.
The Miami offense is talented but was held relatively well by both OSU D (which is good) and Maryland's #103 total D and then you guys gave up more than both and 7 per play. Not seeing the cause for optimism. The one halfway ok offense KSU has seen put up 411 and 7 per play.
I think what I am trying to say is that there isn't any real big evidence that Miami is that great this year and that is the only real team you played. Are they a really good D with an off day at Maryland or are they a bad D who ran into a horrible OSU offense? I feel it is at best a tossup and if the jersey said NC State or UVA they would not be giving the same opinion of how good the team is.
TCU has not been the team they were last year but for the most part has done well other than our game. 2 problem areas they ran into:
1- Air Force- Untested this year but ran up even more yards & points with largely the same guys in Norman last year. TCU lost Tanner Brock who is a beast at LB and still TCU held them to 19 and won easily on the road. Particularly impressive as mental assignments are key vs AFA's option game. This very well could be a case of AFA's offense simply being good. We won't know until they play another decent team or two.
2- ULM- Took TCU a quarter to wake up and then they dominated. After their first 3 drives ULM got a meager 2.4 per play. TCU was also playing without elite Linebacker Tanner Brock AND his backup which probably caused some issues.
So TCU's defense is still good and we lit them up like the 4th of July.
Offense has not been tested by anyone other than AFA who they lit up and AFA was the #37 defense last year. They lit up ULM every bit as bad as FSU and Iowa did statistically.
I like KSU and I think both teams have some improvement on D but I really don't see much that indicates that your D is worlds better or that our offense is somehow a paper tiger.
Side question- what the heck happened against EKU with your offense?
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So we have 2 cupcakes for KSU and a Miami team
TCU - legit..but at home
Stephen F Austin (phfffft)
Rice (dropped a 30 spot on you)
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Lamar Miller
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TCU was legit last year. Not so much this year.
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So we have 2 cupcakes for KSU and a Miami team
TCU - legit..but at home
Stephen F Austin (phfffft)
Rice (dropped a 30 spot on you)
TCU was legit last year. Not so much this year.
1- Never said we faced a murders row. Just saying KSU has not either.
2- TCU is still very good. They'd easily throttle KU and are on par with the majority of our league this year.
3- SFA is a FCS team we dominated. They played evenly with Northern Iowa who almost won in Ames this year.
4- Rice got 7 vs backups and 7 off of us fumbling a kick return on our doorstep. They got 17 when they had to drive for scores against our starters and averaged 4.8 per play before the backups came in.
5- Rice got 24 and 9 to Purdue in a victory and UT in a loss respectively. They ran it well on UT as their starting RB averaged 6 per carry as the read game really hurt UT. It was 13-6 with Rice ball in the UT red zone in the 3rd quarter. They would throttle EKU or Kent. They beat Purdue.
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WordUp, please put a score prediction or something skip-to-worthy at the bottom of all really long posts.
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WordUp, please put a score prediction or something skip-to-worthy at the bottom of all really long posts.
No joke. I read about 3 sentences then started dozing off.
Liven things up a little bit, wordup. Liven things up.
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Side question- what the heck happened against EKU with your offense?
Only using 15% of the playbook is the excuse I am clinging to.
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:zzz:
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Saw the trailer for the new Footloose today. Made me think of Baylor/Waco.
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this may be the most semi decent baylor poster i've ever seen. will monitor.
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this may be the most semi decent baylor poster i've ever seen. will monitor.
Yes, very impressed. Probably one of the top 3 non-EMAW posters I've ever encountered.
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NM
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Last year I had this to say (http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=394) following our disappointing loss in Waco. Baylor gained 683 total yards last year (our worst total of the year) at 9.0 yards per play (our 2nd worst YPP).
The first 10 Baylor drives...
...As I rewatched the game last year I focused on 3 things; defensive alignment, execution, and players. I am certain we are better in all 3 areas on the defensive side of the ball. 1st, the move from a 4-2-5 to a 4-3 was sound and allows us to be in better position to make plays at the snap. So far we have also shown better execution, but in large part thats because we have better players, especially at linebacker and on the defensive line.
That said, it will still be difficult to slow Baylor down, but I see this more as a first to 30 game as opposed to first to 40 like it was last year. I am very confident our front 7 will do a much better job slowing down Baylor's running game, it will really come down to our secondary making plays. I think we will make enough to send the Bears home with a loss.
Cats 38
Bears 34
I saw you guys vs Miami and I think you guys have a better DT and MLB but the rest of the front 7 looks to be pretty much the same caliber overall. Lamur and Childs are a wash, the other ILB played some against us last year, and one of your DE talent looks the same overall as a unit. I don't see some Darren Howard type emerging when I watched the Miami game.
I remember last year the QB read plays really hurt you not only against us and NU but even less pass capable UCLA and UCF offenses. This is one concern I would have if I was a Cat fan as what evidence do you have this weakness has been shored up? Miami didn't use designed QB runs much if at all and the other 2 offenses are ranked worse than 100th in each of the FBS (Kent St) and FCS (EKU). So you may be in better position defensively but have you been tested by the main weaknesses that killed you last year?
I would also worry about how you weren't able to get consistent pressure on Harris. Our OL is very good and kept TCU's DLine and blitzes away from RG3. Yeah you can try to keep him in the pocket but he'll pick you apart if you do as he'll have plenty of time and I don't think your DBs are worlds better than last year or TCU who has a similar setup with a very quick returning CB and a well regarded JUCO opposite him. These 2 factors project favorably for the Baylor offense.
You guys have a very good QB read run game and I am thankful that both TCU and Rice were on our schedule as both TCU's Pachall and Rice's McHargue run the same read option stuff and will have given us some good looks. Stopping that will be tough for us however I do think that TCU was a superior passing team to KSU at this point with better WR like Boyce and Dawson.
Miami was a good win but for all your offensive success against them I wonder 2 things about that defense:
1- They kind of played into your hand by keeping fewer guys in the box usually. Gave favorable numbers to option off of and you made em pay. Good job but I wonder if Bennett is going to give you such favorable fronts.
2- Who else they played. Ohio State's offense is horrendous this year if you can't tell. They scored on CU's D but so did KU last year. They ran up stats on a pathetic Akron team and were held in check for the most part by Toledo of all people. Maryland's offense gutted the Miami D completely and without mercy and MD is ranked 62 total offense and was just dominated by temple. (which I am sure went over well with Coach Golden to see his former team destroy a team that spoiled his UM debut.)
So we have 2 cupcakes for KSU and a Miami team with some good players but honestly a complete failing grade on the one other balanced offense they faced.
The Miami offense is talented but was held relatively well by both OSU D (which is good) and Maryland's #103 total D and then you guys gave up more than both and 7 per play. Not seeing the cause for optimism. The one halfway ok offense KSU has seen put up 411 and 7 per play.
I think what I am trying to say is that there isn't any real big evidence that Miami is that great this year and that is the only real team you played. Are they a really good D with an off day at Maryland or are they a bad D who ran into a horrible OSU offense? I feel it is at best a tossup and if the jersey said NC State or UVA they would not be giving the same opinion of how good the team is.
TCU has not been the team they were last year but for the most part has done well other than our game. 2 problem areas they ran into:
1- Air Force- Untested this year but ran up even more yards & points with largely the same guys in Norman last year. TCU lost Tanner Brock who is a beast at LB and still TCU held them to 19 and won easily on the road. Particularly impressive as mental assignments are key vs AFA's option game. This very well could be a case of AFA's offense simply being good. We won't know until they play another decent team or two.
2- ULM- Took TCU a quarter to wake up and then they dominated. After their first 3 drives ULM got a meager 2.4 per play. TCU was also playing without elite Linebacker Tanner Brock AND his backup which probably caused some issues.
So TCU's defense is still good and we lit them up like the 4th of July.
Offense has not been tested by anyone other than AFA who they lit up and AFA was the #37 defense last year. They lit up ULM every bit as bad as FSU and Iowa did statistically.
I like KSU and I think both teams have some improvement on D but I really don't see much that indicates that your D is worlds better or that our offense is somehow a paper tiger.
Side question- what the heck happened against EKU with your offense?
WordUpBU, I only got three words for you..."KICK BAYLORS' ASS" as in. Let's talk about it after the game, if you're still around. :party:
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Last year I had this to say (http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=394) following our disappointing loss in Waco. Baylor gained 683 total yards last year (our worst total of the year) at 9.0 yards per play (our 2nd worst YPP).
The first 10 Baylor drives...
...As I rewatched the game last year I focused on 3 things; defensive alignment, execution, and players. I am certain we are better in all 3 areas on the defensive side of the ball. 1st, the move from a 4-2-5 to a 4-3 was sound and allows us to be in better position to make plays at the snap. So far we have also shown better execution, but in large part thats because we have better players, especially at linebacker and on the defensive line.
That said, it will still be difficult to slow Baylor down, but I see this more as a first to 30 game as opposed to first to 40 like it was last year. I am very confident our front 7 will do a much better job slowing down Baylor's running game, it will really come down to our secondary making plays. I think we will make enough to send the Bears home with a loss.
Cats 38
Bears 34
I saw you guys vs Miami and I think you guys have a better DT and MLB but the rest of the front 7 looks to be pretty much the same caliber overall. Lamur and Childs are a wash, the other ILB played some against us last year, and one of your DE talent looks the same overall as a unit. I don't see some Darren Howard type emerging when I watched the Miami game.
I remember last year the QB read plays really hurt you not only against us and NU but even less pass capable UCLA and UCF offenses. This is one concern I would have if I was a Cat fan as what evidence do you have this weakness has been shored up? Miami didn't use designed QB runs much if at all and the other 2 offenses are ranked worse than 100th in each of the FBS (Kent St) and FCS (EKU). So you may be in better position defensively but have you been tested by the main weaknesses that killed you last year?
I would also worry about how you weren't able to get consistent pressure on Harris. Our OL is very good and kept TCU's DLine and blitzes away from RG3. Yeah you can try to keep him in the pocket but he'll pick you apart if you do as he'll have plenty of time and I don't think your DBs are worlds better than last year or TCU who has a similar setup with a very quick returning CB and a well regarded JUCO opposite him. These 2 factors project favorably for the Baylor offense.
You guys have a very good QB read run game and I am thankful that both TCU and Rice were on our schedule as both TCU's Pachall and Rice's McHargue run the same read option stuff and will have given us some good looks. Stopping that will be tough for us however I do think that TCU was a superior passing team to KSU at this point with better WR like Boyce and Dawson.
Miami was a good win but for all your offensive success against them I wonder 2 things about that defense:
1- They kind of played into your hand by keeping fewer guys in the box usually. Gave favorable numbers to option off of and you made em pay. Good job but I wonder if Bennett is going to give you such favorable fronts.
2- Who else they played. Ohio State's offense is horrendous this year if you can't tell. They scored on CU's D but so did KU last year. They ran up stats on a pathetic Akron team and were held in check for the most part by Toledo of all people. Maryland's offense gutted the Miami D completely and without mercy and MD is ranked 62 total offense and was just dominated by temple. (which I am sure went over well with Coach Golden to see his former team destroy a team that spoiled his UM debut.)
So we have 2 cupcakes for KSU and a Miami team with some good players but honestly a complete failing grade on the one other balanced offense they faced.
The Miami offense is talented but was held relatively well by both OSU D (which is good) and Maryland's #103 total D and then you guys gave up more than both and 7 per play. Not seeing the cause for optimism. The one halfway ok offense KSU has seen put up 411 and 7 per play.
I think what I am trying to say is that there isn't any real big evidence that Miami is that great this year and that is the only real team you played. Are they a really good D with an off day at Maryland or are they a bad D who ran into a horrible OSU offense? I feel it is at best a tossup and if the jersey said NC State or UVA they would not be giving the same opinion of how good the team is.
TCU has not been the team they were last year but for the most part has done well other than our game. 2 problem areas they ran into:
1- Air Force- Untested this year but ran up even more yards & points with largely the same guys in Norman last year. TCU lost Tanner Brock who is a beast at LB and still TCU held them to 19 and won easily on the road. Particularly impressive as mental assignments are key vs AFA's option game. This very well could be a case of AFA's offense simply being good. We won't know until they play another decent team or two.
2- ULM- Took TCU a quarter to wake up and then they dominated. After their first 3 drives ULM got a meager 2.4 per play. TCU was also playing without elite Linebacker Tanner Brock AND his backup which probably caused some issues.
So TCU's defense is still good and we lit them up like the 4th of July.
Offense has not been tested by anyone other than AFA who they lit up and AFA was the #37 defense last year. They lit up ULM every bit as bad as FSU and Iowa did statistically.
I like KSU and I think both teams have some improvement on D but I really don't see much that indicates that your D is worlds better or that our offense is somehow a paper tiger.
Side question- what the heck happened against EKU with your offense?
WordUpBU, I only got three words for you..."KICK BAYLORS' ASS" as in. Let's talk about it after the game, if you're still around. :party:
Also did not read. :comeatme:
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Last year I had this to say (http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=394) following our disappointing loss in Waco. Baylor gained 683 total yards last year (our worst total of the year) at 9.0 yards per play (our 2nd worst YPP).
The first 10 Baylor drives...
...As I rewatched the game last year I focused on 3 things; defensive alignment, execution, and players. I am certain we are better in all 3 areas on the defensive side of the ball. 1st, the move from a 4-2-5 to a 4-3 was sound and allows us to be in better position to make plays at the snap. So far we have also shown better execution, but in large part thats because we have better players, especially at linebacker and on the defensive line.
That said, it will still be difficult to slow Baylor down, but I see this more as a first to 30 game as opposed to first to 40 like it was last year. I am very confident our front 7 will do a much better job slowing down Baylor's running game, it will really come down to our secondary making plays. I think we will make enough to send the Bears home with a loss.
Cats 38
Bears 34
I saw you guys vs Miami and I think you guys have a better DT and MLB but the rest of the front 7 looks to be pretty much the same caliber overall. Lamur and Childs are a wash, the other ILB played some against us last year, and one of your DE talent looks the same overall as a unit. I don't see some Darren Howard type emerging when I watched the Miami game.
I remember last year the QB read plays really hurt you not only against us and NU but even less pass capable UCLA and UCF offenses. This is one concern I would have if I was a Cat fan as what evidence do you have this weakness has been shored up? Miami didn't use designed QB runs much if at all and the other 2 offenses are ranked worse than 100th in each of the FBS (Kent St) and FCS (EKU). So you may be in better position defensively but have you been tested by the main weaknesses that killed you last year?
I would also worry about how you weren't able to get consistent pressure on Harris. Our OL is very good and kept TCU's DLine and blitzes away from RG3. Yeah you can try to keep him in the pocket but he'll pick you apart if you do as he'll have plenty of time and I don't think your DBs are worlds better than last year or TCU who has a similar setup with a very quick returning CB and a well regarded JUCO opposite him. These 2 factors project favorably for the Baylor offense.
You guys have a very good QB read run game and I am thankful that both TCU and Rice were on our schedule as both TCU's Pachall and Rice's McHargue run the same read option stuff and will have given us some good looks. Stopping that will be tough for us however I do think that TCU was a superior passing team to KSU at this point with better WR like Boyce and Dawson.
Miami was a good win but for all your offensive success against them I wonder 2 things about that defense:
1- They kind of played into your hand by keeping fewer guys in the box usually. Gave favorable numbers to option off of and you made em pay. Good job but I wonder if Bennett is going to give you such favorable fronts.
2- Who else they played. Ohio State's offense is horrendous this year if you can't tell. They scored on CU's D but so did KU last year. They ran up stats on a pathetic Akron team and were held in check for the most part by Toledo of all people. Maryland's offense gutted the Miami D completely and without mercy and MD is ranked 62 total offense and was just dominated by temple. (which I am sure went over well with Coach Golden to see his former team destroy a team that spoiled his UM debut.)
So we have 2 cupcakes for KSU and a Miami team with some good players but honestly a complete failing grade on the one other balanced offense they faced.
The Miami offense is talented but was held relatively well by both OSU D (which is good) and Maryland's #103 total D and then you guys gave up more than both and 7 per play. Not seeing the cause for optimism. The one halfway ok offense KSU has seen put up 411 and 7 per play.
I think what I am trying to say is that there isn't any real big evidence that Miami is that great this year and that is the only real team you played. Are they a really good D with an off day at Maryland or are they a bad D who ran into a horrible OSU offense? I feel it is at best a tossup and if the jersey said NC State or UVA they would not be giving the same opinion of how good the team is.
TCU has not been the team they were last year but for the most part has done well other than our game. 2 problem areas they ran into:
1- Air Force- Untested this year but ran up even more yards & points with largely the same guys in Norman last year. TCU lost Tanner Brock who is a beast at LB and still TCU held them to 19 and won easily on the road. Particularly impressive as mental assignments are key vs AFA's option game. This very well could be a case of AFA's offense simply being good. We won't know until they play another decent team or two.
2- ULM- Took TCU a quarter to wake up and then they dominated. After their first 3 drives ULM got a meager 2.4 per play. TCU was also playing without elite Linebacker Tanner Brock AND his backup which probably caused some issues.
So TCU's defense is still good and we lit them up like the 4th of July.
Offense has not been tested by anyone other than AFA who they lit up and AFA was the #37 defense last year. They lit up ULM every bit as bad as FSU and Iowa did statistically.
I like KSU and I think both teams have some improvement on D but I really don't see much that indicates that your D is worlds better or that our offense is somehow a paper tiger.
Side question- what the heck happened against EKU with your offense?
This dude must be incredibly nervous about the game if he's going to this much trouble to try and discredit everything about K-State and Miami. Confidence Rising!! :ksu: :excited: