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Title: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: The Manhatter on September 21, 2011, 09:58:22 AM
he said, "I turn on the tape and their defensive lineman, no. 95.  He's making a lot of plays.  He's better than the two we faced last week and we thought they were pretty good.  This Kibble kid can play.  He's a really good player".

The other two players he mentioned for KSU specific are Arthur Brown and Klein. 
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: jtksu on September 21, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Kibble has been solid.  Sure wish Tillman's situation would clear up so he could get some snaps beside Kibble.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2011, 10:03:26 AM
Kibble has been solid.  Sure wish Tillman's situation would clear up so he could get some snaps beside Kibble.

It's cleared up.  He's on the team and available.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: jtksu on September 21, 2011, 10:05:49 AM
Yeah, saw he's back on the roster.  I'm just wondering if he missed much practice and if he will be able to actually contribute any time soon.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: The Manhatter on September 21, 2011, 10:11:36 AM
Kibble looks like a completely different player this year.  I watched him a lot last year and the ability was there but he didn't use his hands effectively and you're pretty much dead at that position if you don't use your hands.  Completely different this year the way he shoots his hands and he has a more impressive get off this year.  Everything about his game has improved.

I actually saw a poster on this site the other day refer to Kibble as "small"....he's listed at 305 and I wouldn't be surprised if he weighed a little more than that.  Nothing small about him.  I just wish we had a stud 3 technique beside him.  Kibble and Arthur Brown certainly are not the reasons I'm very concerned about how we'll fare this week vs. Miami's running game.

Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: jtksu on September 21, 2011, 10:15:15 AM
Well, before we start sucking Kibble off, we should probably consider the quality, size, and depth of the offenses we've played so far.  Lots of dude have looked good against weak non-con teams and went on to struggle against the meat of a schedule.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Panjandrum on September 21, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
Was surprised at Kibble's pursuit speed last week on his sack.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: jtksu on September 21, 2011, 10:18:09 AM
True, nice speed and hustle but I'm not sure he chases down Harris from behind on that play.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: The Manhatter on September 21, 2011, 10:22:11 AM
Well, before we start sucking Kibble off, we should probably consider the quality, size, and depth of the offenses we've played so far.  Lots of dude have looked good against weak non-con teams and went on to struggle against the meat of a schedule.

if you know what you're looking for when you watch a defensive lineman it really doesn't matter about the competition.  Trust me, he's a superior player to what he was a year ago.  I think he's a fairly capable pass rusher from inside as well.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: DQ12 on September 21, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
My favorite D-Lineman is Meshak because (a) his name is Meshak and (b) he looks completely badass in his uniform.  Completely bad. ass.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: kso_FAN on September 21, 2011, 10:28:41 AM
Kibble has been a lot better and that has helped a ton. But the increase in our team speed on defense, especially in the front 7, is night and day. Of course a lot of that is ABrown who makes plays all over. Really makes an amazing difference in what we can do. That said, I am curious to see how we handle Miami's running game, which has a lot of the same power/zone concepts that we use with 2 back sets.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: AppleJack on September 21, 2011, 12:20:33 PM
We have played Kent St and Eastern Kentucky  :blank:

If we hold Miami under 28 I'd be stunned.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: wes mantooth on September 21, 2011, 12:30:10 PM
Kibble's hips are really impressive.  low center of gravity. 
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: The Manhatter on September 21, 2011, 12:33:17 PM
We have played Kent St and Eastern Kentucky  :blank:

If we hold Miami under 28 I'd be stunned.

elaborate.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: CNS on September 21, 2011, 12:34:26 PM
We have played Kent St and Eastern Kentucky  :blank:

If we hold Miami under 28 I'd be stunned.

elaborate.

We are going to have at least 28 scored on us because our abilities have been inflated due to bad competition to date.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: AppleJack on September 21, 2011, 12:38:52 PM
We have played Kent St and Eastern Kentucky  :blank:

If we hold Miami under 28 I'd be stunned.

elaborate.

We are going to have at least 28 scored on us because our abilities have been inflated due to bad competition to date.

 :eye:
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: AbeFroman on September 21, 2011, 12:42:26 PM
We have played Kent St and Eastern Kentucky  :blank:

If we hold Miami under 28 I'd be stunned.

I'm more worried about the offense than the defense. Yeah we've only played Kent and EKU, so the numbers are inflated, but holding them to 7 and 0 points isn't like last year when we gave up 24 to Missouri St. But the offense only scoring 10 and 37 is a concern. If the offense puts the defense in bad spots, it'll be >28. But if the offense doesn't I think our defense holds them under 28 (regardless of win or loss).
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 21, 2011, 01:26:54 PM
I think special teams end up costing us the game.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: pc5k on September 21, 2011, 01:33:14 PM
Kibble looks like a completely different player this year.  I watched him a lot last year and the ability was there but he didn't use his hands effectively and you're pretty much dead at that position if you don't use your hands.  Completely different this year the way he shoots his hands and he has a more impressive get off this year.  Everything about his game has improved.

I actually saw a poster on this site the other day refer to Kibble as "small"....he's listed at 305 and I wouldn't be surprised if he weighed a little more than that.  Nothing small about him.  I just wish we had a stud 3 technique beside him.  Kibble and Arthur Brown certainly are not the reasons I'm very concerned about how we'll fare this week vs. Miami's running game.



So,  how do you feel about latui and voelker's play so far?
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: hemmy on September 21, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
I think special teams end up costing us the game.

Sean on the hotseat? :crossfingers:
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Cire on September 21, 2011, 01:54:01 PM
They should be watching film of the texas game last year not the first two games. 
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Winters on September 21, 2011, 02:24:04 PM
Lutui has been solid as well but like it was mentioned earlier would rather see tillman out there.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Bookcat on September 21, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
Game 1....a true freshmen from E. Kentucky

Game 2.....Spencer Keith..who I"m pretty sure is blind and only one functioning leg.

Game 3. ....Jacory Harris..and.or Stephen Morris....


There is no comparison.....so just stop.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Winters on September 21, 2011, 02:30:45 PM
Jacory Harris will throw at least two picks
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: Purple_Photoshopper on September 21, 2011, 02:35:04 PM
Jacory Harris will throw at least two picks

This is a given. As well as Tyson Hartman being burned badly by a play action pass.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on September 21, 2011, 02:53:44 PM
Okay, I've read on this board multiple times recently that Jacory Harris is fast.  I guess I never realized he was, and the Miami fans on TMB seem to think he is very slow footed and that's what leads to alot of his INT's.  So which is it...is he fast or no?
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: MadCat on September 21, 2011, 02:57:29 PM
Okay, I've read on this board multiple times recently that Jacory Harris is fast.  I guess I never realized he was, and the Miami fans on TMB seem to think he is very slow footed and that's what leads to alot of his INT's.  So which is it...is he fast or no?

Slow by Miami standards, fast by K-State standards?  :dunno:
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: The Manhatter on September 21, 2011, 03:23:57 PM
Okay, I've read on this board multiple times recently that Jacory Harris is fast.  I guess I never realized he was, and the Miami fans on TMB seem to think he is very slow footed and that's what leads to alot of his INT's.  So which is it...is he fast or no?

I don't remember anyone hear posting that but it wouldn't surprise me because that is some of the lunacy we get on this board.  No, he isn't fast at all.  He's not really a true dual-threat...I mean he is nimble enough to keep a defense honest if he has to scramble but it's not like he's a threat to run the ball in a true running formation.
Title: Re: watched the Al Golden press conference...
Post by: jtksu on September 21, 2011, 06:17:07 PM
Why should they be watching film of last year's UT game?  And who is they?