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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: jtksu on September 17, 2011, 02:58:50 PM
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Can you believe that sorry SOB has the balls to give his son a coaching position? I mean, really?! WTF?! Who does he think he is?!
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Can you believe that sorry SOB has the balls to give his son a coaching position? I mean, really?! WTF?! Who does he think he is?!
Beemer is a good coach who is not yet collecting Social Security.
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Dude was born in 1946.
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Shane Beemer coached:
4 Seasons at South Carolina
3 Seasons at Mississippi State
and was a grad ass't at Tennessee prior to that.
Before joining the VT staff.
jt please compare and contrast that to Sean's resume . . . tia.
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So, he coached for several yrs at BCS schools, and is now the associate HC at a BCS school? Oh, he was also a long snapper at Va Tech. Yep, that is an entirely different resume than Sean's Dax, justl ike totally different. Oh, and he's rumored to be the HCIW. Man, can he get any more different than Sean?! Dude was a long snapper!
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I've said it before and I'll say it again jt, if Sean goes off and coaches somewhere else and proves himself outside of daddy's little bubble, then he certainly is a viable candidate to replace daddy. But he's NEVER left Daddy's little bubble at K-State.
Shane Beemer has spent 7 seasons AWAY from daddy's bubble coaching at SEC schools. Only a hyper Snyder apologist like you can't see the difference.
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sticking up for old ballz must be tough, godspeed JT
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Don't know that I'd be thrilled with handing the reigns over to the younger Beamer if I was a VT fan, but yea, at least he's been somewhere else. Seany has done absolutely nothing at any place not KStateo. Take off the blinders and pretend his last name isn't Snyder and look at his resume. Prince's resume looked like a Texas/Florida candidate compared to Seany boy's.
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So, he coached for several yrs at BCS schools, and is now the associate HC at a BCS school? Oh, he was also a long snapper at Va Tech. Yep, that is an entirely different resume than Sean's Dax, justl ike totally different. Oh, and he's rumored to be the HCIW. Man, can he get any more different than Sean?! Dude was a long snapper!
Dude - bow out. You are getting clowned.
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Oh, and I am not saying that it's good that Beamer hired his kid necessarily, but at least he's coached elsewhere at BCS schools.
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I don't want Sean as our next HC, I just don't have an issue with him coaching special teams. I am merely pointing out that lots of coaches hire their sons/brothers/dads/etc.
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Guess I should clarify a bit- I don't want Sean to ever be our HC.
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I don't want Sean as our next HC, I just don't have an issue with him coaching special teams. I am merely pointing out that lots of coaches hire their sons/brothers/dads/etc.
Another observation about college football: Head coaches get fired for sucking. All over the place.
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2 yrs ago we were 1 win away from playing in the CCG, last year we went to a bowl. Not great seasons but certainly not terrible. If you really thing Snyder sucks, well, you're an idiot.
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1 win away from playing in the CCG
I hate this talking point.
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Yeah, who wants facts to get in the way of blind hatred?
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Dan mcarney was one game away from the ccg.
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2 yrs ago we were 1 win away from playing in the CCG, last year we went to a bowl. Not great seasons but certainly not terrible. If you really thing Snyder sucks, well, you're an idiot.
The point isn't that Snyder should be fired today (though he should) the point is that he never should have been re-hired because there is no viable exit strategy once you let him back in.
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Yeah, who wants facts to get in the way of blind hatred?
facts like the team that was 'one win away' also got beat by lala and failed to make a bowl game?
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Viable exit strategy? WTF are you even talking about?
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Yeah, who wants facts to get in the way of blind hatred?
facts like the team that was 'one win away' also got beat by lala and failed to make a bowl game?
No, he's talking about the fact that the Big 12 North was so utterly rough ridin' bad that year that a team that got beat by lala and failed to make a bowl game was somehow one ass-kicking away from getting annihilated in the dr. pepper game.
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Yeah, because no team has ever suffered a bad early loss and was able to recover. Truth is, you retards are so butthurt about Bill being a the coach that you refuse to even admit the success he has had and can only stew on his failures. You must be some miserable, insufferable little bitches in real life if this is what you do for "fun."
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At what point was there a recovery?
09/05/09 vs. Massachusetts Manhattan, Kan. W, 21-17
09/12/09 at Louisiana Lafayette, Louisiana L, 17-15
09/19/09 at UCLA Pasadena, Calif. L, 23-9
09/26/09 vs. Tennessee Tech Manhattan, Kan. W, 49-7
10/03/09 vs. Iowa State * Kansas City, Mo. W, 24-23
10/10/09 at Texas Tech * Lubbock, Texas L, 66-14
10/17/09 vs. Texas A&M * Manhattan, Kan. W, 62-14
10/24/09 at Colorado * Manhattan, Kan. W, 20-6
10/31/09 at Oklahoma * Norman, Okla. L, 42-30
11/07/09 vs. Kansas * Manhattan, Kan. W, 17-10
11/14/09 vs. Missouri * Manhattan, Kan. L, 38-12
11/21/09 at Nebraska * Lincoln, Neb. L, 17-3
I'd be fine with Bill/Sean being coach if that made us good again. 6-6 and Pinstripe Bowl and 10-7 and being an afterthought in football conference realignment talk a decade after being in the national championship picture isn't good.
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You make absolutely zero sense. Maybe you should stick to things you know about like hassling people you don't know for money.
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Viable exit strategy? WTF are you even talking about?
The future of the program.
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Yeah, because no team has ever suffered a bad early loss and was able to recover.
At what point was there a recovery?
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Anyone who thinks we would have even been competitive had we made the CCG should take a look in the mirror and realized they, themselves, are :powerespect: :bracketmouse:
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Anyone who thinks we would have even been competitive had we made the CCG should take a look in the mirror and realized they, themselves, are :powerespect: :bracketmouse:
Anyone who thought we'd be competitive in the game that would've gotten us in the CCG are the same people that talking points like "1 game away from the CCG" are designed for.
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After tha LaLa game, pretty much the whole board had us losing about every game for the rest of the season. Instead, we recovered and won 5 more games and almost made the CCG. If we would have been competitive is a moot point as we have no way of knowing. (How big of an underdog were we in 2003? Sure glad we actually got to play that game rather than jjust listening to the retards on this board talk about how bad we're going to lose.) And this year, most of this board is saying we aren't going to win another game after tonight. I just hope you dumbasses actually bought your clownsuits cause renting them is going to get pretty expensive.
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jt, is this what you're considering one of the good things Bill has done?
09/05/09 vs. Massachusetts Manhattan, Kan. W, 21-17
09/12/09 at Louisiana Lafayette, Louisiana L, 17-15
09/19/09 at UCLA Pasadena, Calif. L, 23-9
09/26/09 vs. Tennessee Tech Manhattan, Kan. W, 49-7
10/03/09 vs. Iowa State * Kansas City, Mo. W, 24-23
10/10/09 at Texas Tech * Lubbock, Texas L, 66-14
10/17/09 vs. Texas A&M * Manhattan, Kan. W, 62-14
10/24/09 at Colorado * Manhattan, Kan. W, 20-6
10/31/09 at Oklahoma * Norman, Okla. L, 42-30
11/07/09 vs. Kansas * Manhattan, Kan. W, 17-10
11/14/09 vs. Missouri * Manhattan, Kan. L, 38-12
11/21/09 at Nebraska * Lincoln, Neb. L, 17-3
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4 conference wins is bad?
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62-14 against an SEC team! :emawkid:
but seriously though, I've been as powertardy of an apologist for Bill as anyone but there's no defending Sean being here or any reason to think we'll get back to 11 win seasons with Bill. 8-4 is the absolute ceiling with this coaching staff, and we won't get there this season. just stop jtksu. just stop. please.
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4 conference wins is bad?
You cited being one game away from the CCG as being one of the good things Bill's done that nobody gives him credit for. 4 conference wins that particular year was the same thing as being one win away from the CCG. I guess my definition of good is different than just "not bad".
Being .500 and looking at being .500 for the foreseeable future under the Snyder regime is bad.
Of course, I know you already know all this. Being contrarian - not in the funny way like chum and sys do - is just your "thing".
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I'm not contrarian, I'm a fan of KSU sports. As a fan, I root for our team to be successful. As a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), you root for us to be bad so you can look cool in front of your buddies because you said we would suck all along. I guess I just don't understand why people like you even bother following this particular team. Seems like you would be happier following Oregon or some team like that. I mean hey, they have weird ass uniforms, their coach isn't old, and I don't believe he has hired any family members.
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Less than 8% of my coolness comes from having said KSU will suck and them indeed sucking.
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who in the hell is rooting for ksu to suck? Pretty sure everyone here that wants bill to retire wants him to be replaced by a super elite coach.
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Yeah, because so many programs are making homerun hires right now. Who the hell is coaching tOSU, Stanford, UTenn, etc? crap, Miami's coach had a losing record at Temple and Brian Kelly is continuing the ND tradition of wasting talented teams.
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atleast those guys have a chance at recruiting players or hiring quality ass. coaches without hearing talking points such as: "where will you be when bill leaves again?"
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Yeah, because so many programs are making homerun hires right now. Who the hell is coaching tOSU, Stanford, UTenn, etc? crap, Miami's coach had a losing record at Temple and Brian Kelly is continuing the ND tradition of wasting talented teams.
bro. you're out of your element. let it go.
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how did I miss stanford in there... Real rough ridin' powerhouse you're throwing around.... stanford? seriously? Stanford. that's your argument you're going with? Stanford?
I guess you had to clean up your argument by putting a classy school in there to make tOSU, uTenn, & Miami sound like a good option for a coach to take a job at a known football school; but ohh... btw, you may be facing ncaa sanctions for the next 5 years. rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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I'm not contrarian, I'm a fan of KSU sports. As a fan, I root for our team to be successful. As a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), you root for us to be bad so you can look cool in front of your buddies because you said we would suck all along.
It's really easy to cheer for KSU to win every game and also hate LHC Bill Snyder. Probably the easiest thing I've ever done.
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Stanford isn't a quality job? since when? Last time I checked they were like #5 in the nation and had future #1 draft pick Andrew Luck.
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stanford is not a great job
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:dubious:
you're an idiot jt.
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I never said Stanford was a great job but it's certainly a better job than KState and they hired someone I had never heard of. When we hire a new coach it's going to be some Turner Gill type or an unproven cooridinator. You idiots seem to think we're going to replace a HOF coach with some total badass candidate but that's not very likely.
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no hope.... sounds like loser talk. Not surprised. :dubious:
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As a rule whichever side of the argument that 33 is on is the wrong side.
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I never said Stanford was a great job but it's certainly a better job than KState and they hired someone I had never heard of. When we hire a new coach it's going to be some Turner Gill type or an unproven cooridinator. You idiots seem to think we're going to replace a HOF coach with some total badass candidate but that's not very likely.
all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
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jtksu stands for JohnTuckKSUfans.
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Yeah, because so many programs are making homerun hires right now. Who the hell is coaching tOSU, Stanford, UTenn, etc? crap, Miami's coach had a losing record at Temple and Brian Kelly is continuing the ND tradition of wasting talented teams.
I said this exact same thing like two years ago when you guys made fun of KU for hiring Turner Gill.
:ck:
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How's that hire working out for you?
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How's that hire working out for you?
Recruiting better talent/more speed than Mangino.
:ck:
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Losing to FCS schools and giving up 768 yds to Ga Tech. :ck:
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I guess we will find out if Gill can find and keep quality AC's but id much rather be in the position of KU with a young black head coach that has proven he can recruit.
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THEY SCHEMED US!!
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Losing to FCS schools and giving up 768 yds to Ga Tech. :ck:
Beat #15 Ga Tech at home last year and beat an FCS team this year.
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Losing to FCS schools and giving up 768 yds to Ga Tech. :ck:
Beat #15 Ga Tech at home last year and beat an FCS team this year.
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pfft
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Losing to FCS schools and giving up 768 yds to Ga Tech. :ck:
Beat #15 Ga Tech at home last year and beat an FCS team this year.
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New name for Memorial Stadium?
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I guess we will find out if Gill can find and keep quality AC's but id much rather be in the position of KU with a young black head coach that has proven he can recruit.
I would take that over Snyder, but I'd really just like to be looking for a new coach after this season, assuming we are in some kind of BCS conference and football still actually matters here. There are a lot of good unemployed coaches out there right now.
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I'd rather have 59 than 7. :ck:
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Losing to FCS schools and giving up 768 yds to Ga Tech. :ck:
Beat #15 Ga Tech at home last year and beat an FCS team this year.
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I'm with you bro. Also, make sure Gill signs a secret deal with your AD that assures him of millions if he were to get fired...if, say...he were to get his hullabaloo rocked against Kstate (again).....and then on the way home go effing ballistic on the team and coaches.