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Title: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on September 02, 2011, 08:37:02 AM
kenpom has introduced player history pages (http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=6485) so you can now look at an individual player's advanced stats over the course of their career. He also added a comparable players feature (http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/free_tim_williams/), which you should see at the bottom of Pullen's page in the first link, showing that Pullen was very similar to Virigina 07's JR Reynolds in style of play and skill level. You can also see that McGrud's numbers from last year (http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=9769) compare favorably to our red headed nemisis from Wisconsin.

I think most of the stat geeks like myself will find this to be a cool, time wasting new feature from kenpom.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 08:38:16 AM
ken pom is still my hero. Hope he calls out more media this season.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CHONGS on September 02, 2011, 08:56:23 AM
he's great to follow on twitter
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 08:57:29 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter? 
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CHONGS on September 02, 2011, 08:59:54 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter? 
lot of people, the majority of comedians are terrible at twitter
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 09:01:35 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter?  

faux fake martin
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 09:03:39 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter? 
lot of people, the majority of comedians are terrible at twitter
can you name one commedian that is terrible at twitter?  i doubt it.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: Kermit on September 02, 2011, 09:04:31 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter? 

TouchesTheClown   :ck:
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CHONGS on September 02, 2011, 09:08:44 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter?  
lot of people, the majority of comedians are terrible at twitter
can you name one commedian that is terrible at twitter?  i doubt it.
I had to unfollow Tosh, but it was because he always repeated himself constantly (show locations and what not).  conan is pretty bad too.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 09:14:40 AM
both of those guys are awesome at twitter.  might be in top 10% of good twitters.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CHONGS on September 02, 2011, 09:15:54 AM
both of those guys are awesome at twitter.  might be in top 10% of good twitters.
you lie
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2011, 09:17:03 AM
BITB is not BITB on twitter.  Just a bunch of tweets telling people that he is about to go to Smoke and Fire, play at Falcon Ridge, or eat at the 810 Zone.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 09:17:10 AM
i moved tosh into the top 8% of good twitters about 3 weeks ago, not sure where you've been.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CHONGS on September 02, 2011, 09:19:45 AM
hey i just calls em like i sees em
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 09:20:43 AM
anyway, looking forward to this new kenpom feature. :blank:
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: CHONGS on September 02, 2011, 09:21:23 AM
sorry for ruining this thread dad
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: Gooch on September 02, 2011, 09:21:57 AM
Jay Mohr is pretty awful on Twitter
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 09:23:14 AM
recruitscoop is great.

sometimes the bad ones are ones I like the most. Like Neal Nieves and Greg Swaim. Terrible analysts/commenters/humans, but I can't get enough of their tweets.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 02, 2011, 09:23:20 AM
he's great to follow on twitter

the obvious question i have for you is this- who isn't great to follow on twitter?  
lot of people, the majority of comedians are terrible at twitter
can you name one commedian that is terrible at twitter?  i doubt it.
I had to unfollow Tosh, but it was because he always repeated himself constantly (show locations and what not).  conan is pretty bad too.

conan puts out one tweet/maybe sucky joke a day. It's not like he's clogging your timeline.


Jim Gaffigan is pretty funny, imo.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 09:24:19 AM
you want to know what funny man has funny tweets?  ask me.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: AppleJack on September 02, 2011, 09:40:05 AM
you want to know what funny man has funny tweets?  ask me.

Hello pissclams. How are you? Is Stephen Colbert funny on Twitter?
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2011, 09:40:29 AM
recruitscoop is great.

sometimes the bad ones are ones I like the most. Like Neal Nieves and Greg Swaim. Terrible analysts/commenters/humans, but I can't get enough of their tweets.

recruitscoop does not eff around at all on twitter.  it's just scoop, after scoop after scoop.  he never promotes himself.  he rarely even promoted his charity basketball game.  and the great thing is, he infuriates every adult in the business while doing it.  
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
Bill Simmons is awful at twitter
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
you want to know what funny man has funny tweets?  ask me.

Hello pissclams. How are you? Is Stephen Colbert funny on Twitter?
hell, i don't know - he isn't rated by me in my twitter rankings.  why?  good question.

i'm pretty good AJ, is it ok if i call you AJ?  bien.  now, let's get back to the OP.  will arnett.  that son of a bitch is a good twitter.  currently ranked #1 in my twitter rankings.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 09:43:35 AM
Bill Simmons is awful at twitter

he is just awful. But I followed him on twitter for a while, then unfollowed. Seth Davis is pretty bad too. No idea how he has a job.

Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2011, 09:44:40 AM
scott van pelt is awful at twitter
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 09:44:54 AM
recruitscoop is great.

sometimes the bad ones are ones I like the most. Like Neal Nieves and Greg Swaim. Terrible analysts/commenters/humans, but I can't get enough of their tweets.

recruitscoop does not eff around at all on twitter.  it's just scoop, after scoop after scoop.  he never promotes himself.  he rarely even promoted his charity basketball game.  and the great thing is, he infuriates every adult in the business while doing it.  

yeah, they hate the 16 year old with a goddam CHARITY BASKETBALL GAME TO HONOR HIS DEAD MOTHER.

He did promote himself when he was featured in both the wall street journal and 60 minutes or something within a week. Oh boy, did that piss off the recruitards.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: mocat on September 02, 2011, 09:57:04 AM
Jay Mohr is pretty awful on Twitter at life

fyp.

also, as for the new kp feature, check out '08 Dom  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: skycat on September 02, 2011, 11:42:45 AM
http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=3759

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on September 02, 2011, 11:54:26 AM
This is nice too: http://kenpom.com/history.php?t=Kansas St.

Much easier to compare year by year with that.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on September 02, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Also nice to see player comparos are not racist.

http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=10550
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 12:09:12 PM
Also nice to see player comparos are not racist.

http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=10550

:surprised:

http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=6687
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2011, 12:10:52 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2011, 01:46:24 AM
Also nice to see player comparos are not racist.

http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=10550

06 Levance Fields (898)

Hated that fat ass, but absolutely would take.  Less fat of course
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on December 15, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
kenpom now with his own box scores. (http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/box_scores)

http://kenpom.com/box.php?g=1376

 :excited:
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: sys on December 15, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
kenpom now with his own box scores. (http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/box_scores)

http://kenpom.com/box.php?g=1376

 :excited:

_fan, you should pm me the kenpom password you use.  then i'd comment more on your kenpom threads.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2013, 09:05:14 AM
ken pom is still my hero. Hope he calls out more media this season.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/a_post_about_winning

 :bwpopcorn:

Plus, @kenpomeroy and @BPredict vs @tsnmike and @SethDavisHoops twitter war!

Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
ken pom is still my hero. Hope he calls out more media this season.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/a_post_about_winning

 :bwpopcorn:

Plus, @kenpomeroy and @BPredict vs @tsnmike and @SethDavisHoops twitter war!

ha, I came on to discuss this
_FAN, he's such a thin skinned baby, I don't know how you can deny that. I don't love Davis but he's absolutely right.  Pomeroy just invented beef, I don't know if it was for attention or because he's such a baby that he truly felt "attacked." Seth did nothing to the guy. Ken is no doubt brilliant but he has the greatest need for validation for any cbb media member ever.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2013, 09:34:18 AM
Quote
For the most part, I’ve gotten out of the game of sparring with those critical of analytics. I’ve tried to channel my inner Whelliston with a personal mission statement along the lines of “If you don’t like what I do, just go away.” There are enough coaches and media folks using this stuff that the work has been validated, and I get much more enjoyment out of doing research and interacting with people that are interested in it than getting involved in tedious discussions. If the use of analytics somehow makes you enjoy the game less or you feel like it’s voodoo of some sort, no biggie. There’s room for all of us at the college hoops table. You do your thing, I’ll do mine.

(That said, if any coach or media-type unfamiliar with analytics is willing to meet me even a quarter of the way, I’ll gladly spend time trying to help you better understand what we do and how it will help you. I totally get that this stuff doesn’t come naturally to most people.)

(Oh, also, I know you’re saying “What about Goodman?” The thing is, while nobody would say he’s warmed up to analytics, he’s not truly an analytics-hater. Sparring with him doesn’t feel like work.)

However, I’d like to violate my new mission statement for a second.

What an insecure turd, just crunch numbers and shut up
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2013, 09:49:57 AM
ha, I came on to discuss this
_FAN, he's such a thin skinned baby, I don't know how you can deny that. I don't love Davis but he's absolutely right.  Pomeroy just invented beef, I don't know if it was for attention or because he's such a baby that he truly felt "attacked." Seth did nothing to the guy. Ken is no doubt brilliant but he has the greatest need for validation for any cbb media member ever.

I don't disagree with anything you said about Pomeroy. He's flat out a weird dude, no doubt about that. But so are Davis and DeCoursy.

The value of looking at advanced stats is clear, (and many national media still don't get it), but the weird egos of the advanced stats dudes is also clear.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2013, 09:54:12 AM
ha, I came on to discuss this
_FAN, he's such a thin skinned baby, I don't know how you can deny that. I don't love Davis but he's absolutely right.  Pomeroy just invented beef, I don't know if it was for attention or because he's such a baby that he truly felt "attacked." Seth did nothing to the guy. Ken is no doubt brilliant but he has the greatest need for validation for any cbb media member ever.

I don't disagree with anything you said about Pomeroy. He's flat out a weird dude, no doubt about that. But so are Davis and DeCoursy.

The value of looking at advanced stats is clear, (and many national media still don't get it), but the weird egos of the advanced stats dudes is also clear.

Yes to all of the above. I love when DeCoursey gets all high pitched "Now ^wait^ just a minute Stephen I didn't say that"
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 24, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Yeah, I frequently  :rolleyes: to Davis and Decoursy.  What's weird is that Davis frequently cites kenpom but Ken used Seth as his mark.  Goodman trashes Pomeroy personally on a frequent basis but Ken is too scared of Goodman to take him on.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2013, 10:00:18 AM
Yeah, I frequently  :rolleyes: to Davis and Decoursy.  What's weird is that Davis frequently cites kenpom but Ken used Seth as his mark.  Goodman trashes Pomeroy personally on a frequent basis but Ken is too scared of Goodman to take him on.

Yeah, I find all of those interactions very entertaining. Twitter is great for this stuff.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kougar24 on January 24, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
They should make Moneyball 2 and feature this saga.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: Skipper44 on January 24, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
They should make Moneyball 2 and feature this saga.
There is a couple of NBA teams that have really bought in to the advanced stats, Morey in Houston is the best example but they haven't really won enough.  The NBA is still a league that is dominated by stars at the highest level and officiating has a lot to do with that, imo.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: DeoKat on January 24, 2013, 10:39:53 AM
Jay Mohr is pretty awful on Twitter

To be fair to Jay, he's pretty awful everywhere
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on January 24, 2013, 11:36:59 AM
pomeroy has taken on goodman quite a few times.

these media hacks are jealous that coaches respect kenny.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: nicname on January 25, 2013, 01:45:17 AM
I think it is time for nicname to get a kenpom subscription
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 25, 2013, 01:26:25 PM
I think it is time for nicname to get a kenpom subscription

Many advanced metrics are available for free

www.kstateupdate.com (http://www.kstateupdate.com)
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
On the topic; is any sports media type worse on twitter than DeCourcy? I suppose there is a reason he writes for the Sporting News.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: michigancat on January 28, 2013, 12:21:21 PM
On the topic; is any sports media type worse on twitter than DeCourcy? I suppose there is a reason he writes for the Sporting News.

bilas
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: nicname on January 28, 2013, 03:37:24 PM
I think it is time for nicname to get a kenpom subscription

Many advanced metrics are available for free

www.kstateupdate.com (http://www.kstateupdate.com)

I look at that all the time.  But the players via kenpom is interesting.  I also really miss being able to see win probability percentages for future games.  I can't find those anywhere. 
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 28, 2013, 03:44:33 PM
On the topic; is any sports media type worse on twitter than DeCourcy? I suppose there is a reason he writes for the Sporting News.

bilas

both awful, both incredibly arrogant
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: skycat on February 14, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
I also really miss being able to see win probability percentages for future games.  I can't find those anywhere.

http://masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3731&s=193573
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Kansas%20St..html
http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/146_Men.html?Kansas+St.
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on May 19, 2014, 02:17:46 PM
http://kenpom.com/confhistory.php?c=B12

:D
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on May 19, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
http://kenpom.com/confhistory.php?c=B12

:D


What is it?  Your link takes non subscribers to the sign up page...

Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: kso_FAN on May 19, 2014, 02:24:08 PM
http://kenpom.com/confhistory.php?c=B12

:D


What is it?  Your link takes non subscribers to the sign up page...



Conference history pages going back to 2002. Here's the explanation from his blog (which I believe is free): http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/conference_history_pages
Title: Re: New kenpom feature!
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on May 19, 2014, 04:44:52 PM
Thanks!

 :thumbsup: