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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on August 18, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
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:comeatme:
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I just hope that K-State does what is best for us. We need to get something out of the deal if we accept, whether it's money or the rights to air the game on KStateHD.TV.
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Chip Brown tweeted appearance fee would be about 500k
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Chip Brown tweeted appearance fee would be about 500k
Eff anything less than 1 million.
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Chip Brown tweeted appearance fee would be about 500k
Eff anything less than 1 million.
Yeah, they're getting like 11 million per year, they can fork over 1 mill.
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I just hope that K-State does what is best for us. We need to get something out of the deal if we accept, whether it's money or the rights to air the game on KStateHD.TV.
Did the other 8 teams turn them down? :kstategrad:
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I like all the answers.
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We demand 1 million and that both College and BBall gameday be in Manhattan next year. Also. game also to be on KstateoHD.tv
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Very :lol: at some of our fans, and fans of other schools in regards to the LHN.
If K-State agrees to play them, and it's going to be a pretty big game, I can see it being broadcast on one of the ESPN channels. If it's not going to be a relatively big game, then who cares? It may turn into a nice pay day for a game where there may not have been one.
The LHN simply is the status quo only with Texas having their own network. Does it matter if Texas is able to sign 20 5 star guys instead of 18 (the rest 4 star, or high 3 star)? Does it matter if Texas makes $80 million more than just about everybody else instead of the $60 or $70 million more they make now?
The whole attitude about the LHN is both :facepalm: and :lol: at the same time.
Do the right thing Currie, if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
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.... if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
Couldn't agree more.
New TV rights deal courtesy of Beebe + 7 home games this season + LHN roadie game payout = :kstategrad:
Now lets somehow get bowl eligibility and leave the band behind this time. (sorry band :shy:)
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I bet they pick the KU game. They have options you know
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.... if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
Couldn't agree more.
New TV rights deal courtesy of Beebe + 7 home games this season + LHN roadie game payout = :kstategrad:
Now lets somehow get bowl eligibility and leave the band behind this time. (sorry band :shy:)
Leave the band behind, huh?
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.... if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
Couldn't agree more.
New TV rights deal courtesy of Beebe + 7 home games this season + LHN roadie game payout = :kstategrad:
Now lets somehow get bowl eligibility and leave the band behind this time. (sorry band :shy:)
Leave the band behind, huh?
I would.
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Very :lol: at some of our fans, and fans of other schools in regards to the LHN.
If K-State agrees to play them, and it's going to be a pretty big game, I can see it being broadcast on one of the ESPN channels. If it's not going to be a relatively big game, then who cares? It may turn into a nice pay day for a game where there may not have been one.
The LHN simply is the status guo only with Texas having their own network. Does it matter if Texas is able to sign 20 5 star guys instead of 18 (the rest 4 star, or high 3 star)? Does it matter if Texas makes $80 million more than just about everybody else instead of the $60 or $70 million more they make now?
The whole attitude about the LHN is both :facepalm: and :lol: at the same time.
Do the right thing Currie, if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
Dax gets it.
I say we do it. We'll get more exposure being on LHN than not since it will be such a big deal for them.
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Very :lol: at some of our fans, and fans of other schools in regards to the LHN.
If K-State agrees to play them, and it's going to be a pretty big game, I can see it being broadcast on one of the ESPN channels. If it's not going to be a relatively big game, then who cares? It may turn into a nice pay day for a game where there may not have been one.
The LHN simply is the status guo only with Texas having their own network. Does it matter if Texas is able to sign 20 5 star guys instead of 18 (the rest 4 star, or high 3 star)? Does it matter if Texas makes $80 million more than just about everybody else instead of the $60 or $70 million more they make now?
The whole attitude about the LHN is both :facepalm: and :lol: at the same time.
Do the right thing Currie, if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
Dax gets it.
I say we do it. We'll get more exposure being on LHN than not since it will be such a big deal for them.
Plus, Samantha Steele on the sidelines for the LHN. :fatty:
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Very :lol: at some of our fans, and fans of other schools in regards to the LHN.
If K-State agrees to play them, and it's going to be a pretty big game, I can see it being broadcast on one of the ESPN channels. If it's not going to be a relatively big game, then who cares? It may turn into a nice pay day for a game where there may not have been one.
The LHN simply is the status quo only with Texas having their own network. Does it matter if Texas is able to sign 20 5 star guys instead of 18 (the rest 4 star, or high 3 star)? Does it matter if Texas makes $80 million more than just about everybody else instead of the $60 or $70 million more they make now?
The whole attitude about the LHN is both :facepalm: and :lol: at the same time.
Do the right thing Currie, if we can get a good TV payday for a ROAD game, do it . . . DO IT!!!
This is crazy talk. Last year, the Longhorns limped into Manhattan with a 4-4 record, having just lost back-to-back home games to Baylor and Iowa State. The game was televised nationally on ESPN. Has a K-State vs Texas game ever NOT been televised nationally? (Hint: no)
Why would we want to move our game with them from a national telecast on a big name network, to a small statewide telecast on a largely derided network? How does that give us more exposure? How is it better for us to play a game that is seen on TV by 100,000 LHN subscribers in the state of Texas instead of being seen by 10,000,000 college football fans around the country? Regardless of which network it appears on, will ESPN preview the game on College Gameday? (yes) Will ESPN show highlights of it either way on their College Gameday final? (yes)
Even Fox Sports Net would give us FAR more exposure than the LHN. FSN is in about 85 million households nationwide. LHN is currently in 0 households. I don't expect it to stay at zero, but neither do I expect it to ever come even slightly close to 85 million, and certainly not this year.
I see zero advantages to playing on LHN except for money. And the rumored $500,000 isn't anywhere close to the amount it would have to be for me to consider moving a game from ESPN to LHN. That number needs to have a 7th digit before I even start to consider talking to them about it.
Texas' share of the $300 million contract is $11 million per year (the other $4 million goes to their partner IMG). A K-State vs Texas football game would be BY FAR the premiere sporting event on the LHN all year (side note: this tells you all you really need to know about LHN...). Given that, shouldn't we expect a very large percentage of their revenue for the year? 25% does not seem unreasonable. $10,980,000 revenue x 25% = $2,745,000. Round it to $2.75 million and they've got themselves a deal. Otherwise, we'll be content with playing them on ABC or ESPN yet again.
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Welp add cybertooth to the growing list of those afraid of texas.
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Yep . . . you can spot an AOT'er a mile away.
If K-State were to sign on to play the game without some major contingencies in regards to the distribution, then Cyber might have a point.
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
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horns may want to keep an emaw woodshed event off national TV. Make them pay!
$2 mil to the winner. :kstategrad:
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
This game would make KSU a ton of money if it were on KStateHD.TV because longhorn fans outside of Texas will have to buy a month subscription to watch the game.
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
You sound opposite of :kstategrad:
squawk outed
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Why would we want to move our game with them from a national telecast on a big name network, to a small statewide telecast on a largely derided network? How does that give us more exposure?...A K-State vs Texas football game would be BY FAR the premiere sporting event on the LHN all year (side note: this tells you all you really need to know about LHN...).
You answered you own question within the post.
The biggest event on the most controversial enterprise in the recent history of college sports? And we can make money on it?
This really doesn't require much thought.
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD
Hmm. Yeah. eff the LHN then.
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ABC 7pm game or nothing. eff all other options
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD
From what I understand, the only FB game that will be on K-StateHD live will be eastern Kentucky
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD
It seems like a pretty easy solution to me (tell me if I'm wrong).
LHN carries the game in the state of Texas, and they black it out on ESPN and ESPN 3 in Texas. However, the game will be shown on ESPN 3 outside of the state.
I mean, it would be cool to make some money off of this, but negotiate the appearance fee with LHN ($750K?) and make sure it gets on ESPN 3 outside of the state.
I mean, really, this will be a huge deal in Texas. Lots of media blitz, lots of coverage, and if we win, even better. I mean, if all eyes in Texas are on the LHN the week we play them, that will be good exposure in a critical state for us.
I get the pros and cons, but if we can secure at least $500-$750K for a road game with heavy media coverage in your most important recruiting state, why say no?
* Totally willing to watch the game on ESPN 3 and not complain about it.
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wait. were you clowns under the assumption that UT was going to pay an assload of money to us so they could show this game on LHN, and that some how you'd still be able to watch it through another source?
:lol:
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How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?
just curious
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How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?
just curious
Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.
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How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?
just curious
Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.
If they are going to make everyone w/o LHN watch a game on a computer screen that would otherwise be televised nationally, then anything less than 1mil is completely unacceptable. I have no doubt that Currie knows this and will negotiate the crap out of this deal.
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How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?
just curious
Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.
If they are going to make everyone w/o LHN watch a game on a computer screen that would otherwise be televised nationally, then anything less than 1mil is completely unacceptable. I have no doubt that Currie knows this and will negotiate the crap out of this deal.
It depends on money and if it can be seen via other means (ESPN 3).
I mean you could even televise it nationally and black it out in Texas and make the folks down there watch the World Series of Poker on the deuce.
There's a lot of stuff here to negotiate. I bet we ultimately get a pretty sweet deal on it.
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How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?
just curious
Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.
If they are going to make everyone w/o LHN watch a game on a computer screen that would otherwise be televised nationally, then anything less than 1mil is completely unacceptable. I have no doubt that Currie knows this and will negotiate the crap out of this deal.
It depends on money and if it can be seen via other means (ESPN 3).
I mean you could even televise it nationally and black it out in Texas and make the folks down there watch the World Series of Poker on the deuce.
There's a lot of stuff here to negotiate. I bet we ultimately get a pretty sweet deal on it.
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having LHN. I mean you want the games to be exclusive to the LHN so Texas fans have buy it to see the game. The LHN isn't intended to be just in the state of Texas, right? So, blacking out Texas wouldn't do much good except to piss off off anybody in the state of Texas who wants to see the game but doesn't have the network.
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Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.
Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it. A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press.
Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all :ohno: on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
:kstatriot:NOAT
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If it increases the likelihood that I will be able to watch the game I am for it.
If it decreases the likelihood that I will be able to watch the game I am against it.
If it has no impact on the likelihood that I will be able to watch the game I am for it.
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Complete middle of the road reply
FYP
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Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.
Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it. A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press.
Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all :ohno: on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
:kstatriot:NOAT
My guess is that most cable operators are going to put the LHN on basic or lowest sports tier in Texas. The conference game isn't so much to sell the network there, but to get fans of whatever team they get to sign up for a month plus outside Texas fans and collect the user fees, which I'm guessing are about $1 per subscriber. They're also banking on the fact it will take a few months for some people to cancel.
This contract is pure gold for ESPN, especially given Texas's growth population. If it can get the LHN to near ubiquity just in Texas, subscriber fees alone will make it worth several billion dollars.
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I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it. I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it. I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM. If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something.
If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.
Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD
Hmm. Yeah. eff the LHN then.
Wow. No.
Would still be up for the CTR to be on LHN. My stance on this may be entirely influenced by my autumn trip to Austin to see the CTR live in person.
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Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.
Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it. A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press.
Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all :ohno: on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
:kstatriot:NOAT
My guess is that most cable operators are going to put the LHN on basic or lowest sports tier in Texas. The conference game isn't so much to sell the network there, but to get fans of whatever team they get to sign up for a month plus outside Texas fans and collect the user fees, which I'm guessing are about $1 per subscriber. They're also banking on the fact it will take a few months for some people to cancel.
This contract is pure gold for ESPN, especially given Texas's growth population. If it can get the LHN to near ubiquity just in Texas, subscriber fees alone will make it worth several billion dollars.
ESPN is asking for a reported .40 per subscriber and most of the cable companies think that is way to much. The BIG 10 network only gets something like .80 per subscriber and I think that is only in Big 10 country. Your $1 per subscriber is way way off.
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Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.
Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it. A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press.
Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all :ohno: on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
:kstatriot:NOAT
My guess is that most cable operators are going to put the LHN on basic or lowest sports tier in Texas. The conference game isn't so much to sell the network there, but to get fans of whatever team they get to sign up for a month plus outside Texas fans and collect the user fees, which I'm guessing are about $1 per subscriber. They're also banking on the fact it will take a few months for some people to cancel.
This contract is pure gold for ESPN, especially given Texas's growth population. If it can get the LHN to near ubiquity just in Texas, subscriber fees alone will make it worth several billion dollars.
ESPN is asking for a reported .40 per subscriber and most of the cable companies think that is way to much. The BIG 10 network only gets something like .80 per subscriber and I think that is only in Big 10 country. Your $1 per subscriber is way way off.
I'm talking about the average over the life of the contract. Cable channels are promoted just like crack.
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