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Haven't seen this posted yet.
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611
Holy crap, Miami.
Highlights:
KEARNEY, N.J. – A former University of Miami booster, incarcerated for his role in a $930 million Ponzi scheme, has told Yahoo! Sports he provided thousands of impermissible benefits to at least 72 athletes from 2002 through 2010.
In 100 hours of jailhouse interviews during Yahoo! Sports’ 11-month investigation, former Hurricanes booster Nevin Shapiro described a sustained, eight-year run of rampant NCAA rule-breaking, some of it with the knowledge or direct participation of at least seven coaches from the Miami football and basketball programs. At a cost that Shapiro estimates in the millions of dollars, he said his benefits to athletes included but were not limited to: cash, prostitutes, entertainment in his multimillion-dollar homes and yacht, paid trips to high-end restaurants and nightclubs, jewelry, bounties for on-field play (including bounties for injuring opposing players), travel and on one occasion, an abortion.
(Special to Yahoo! Sports)
• Abortion: In one instance, Shapiro described taking a player to the Pink Pony strip club and paying for a dancer to engage in sex with the athlete. In the ensuing weeks, Shapiro said the dancer called one of his security providers and informed him that the player had gotten her pregnant during the incident. Shapiro said he gave the dancer $500 to have an abortion performed, without notifying the player of the incident.
“I was doing him a favor,” the booster said. “That idiot might have wanted to keep [the baby].”
Due to the sensitivity of the allegation, Yahoo! Sports has chosen not to name the player allegedly involved.
• Strip clubs/night clubs: Shapiro rotated through multiple strip clubs with players on a regular basis – Solid Gold, The Cheetah, Pink Pony and Tootsies Cabaret. Shapiro often arrived to the clubs with thick wads of cash to spend on the dancers. Despite that, his additional credit card charges for just Solid Gold from mid 2005 to 2010 totaled $32,683.25.
• Prostitution: Shapiro named 39 Miami players or prospective recruits who he says received prostitution paid for by the booster. Due to the sensitivity of the claims, Yahoo! Sports has chosen not to reveal the names of the players Shapiro claims were involved. However, two players confirmed the booster paid for sexual favors for themselves and others during their careers with the Hurricanes.
:horrorsurprise:
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Thanks, Luke. :dubious: (ftp://:dubious:)
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He was just trying to bring back "The U".
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No wonder Frank wanted to go there, we don't do nearly that much here
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more recent stuff that is new to me.
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611 (http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611)
These tweets from the writer kinda sum up the article
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oh my sweet eff
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more recent stuff that is new to me.
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611 (http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611)
These tweets from the writer kinda sum up the article
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Goodbye Bryce and Arthur :cry:
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A and B Brown names brought up. Just rough ridin' great.
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just when I think I'm out...they pull me back in.
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• Abortion: In one instance, Shapiro described taking a player to the Pink Pony strip club and paying for a dancer to engage in sex with the athlete. In the ensuing weeks, Shapiro said the dancer called one of his security providers and informed him that the player had gotten her pregnant during the incident. Shapiro said he gave the dancer $500 to have an abortion performed, without notifying the player of the incident.
“I was doing him a favor,” the booster said. “That idiot might have wanted to keep [the baby].”
Due to the sensitivity of the allegation, Yahoo! Sports has chosen not to name the player allegedly involved.
this is ridiculously awesome.
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For Sys:
Shapiro alleges he paid $10,000 to help secure the commitment of basketball recruit DeQuan Jones and that Frank Haith, the coach at the time, was aware of the payment.
Now at Missouri, Haith denied the charge to Yahoo! Sports.
EDIT: looks like you found it on the hoops board :driving:
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@CharlesRobinson
Charles Robinson More coming on individual allegations. Keep checking. Eventually you'll be able to click on names and view allegations for each player/coach
3 minutes ago via web
:kstategrad: :bwpopcorn:
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Eff!!!! :goodbyecruelworld:
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Mods, please merge with "If we get destroyed in Miami" thread. Pretty sure we're gonna get killed in light of these recent developments. :blank: (ftp://:blank:)
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we just got a whole lot less athletic. bill will keep them out until this is resolved...which won't be any time soon:
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-arthur_brown_allegations (http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-arthur_brown_allegations)
“He enrolled at the University of Miami in January, a semester early. I was introduced to Arthur through Randy Phillips. We spent a lot of time together playing pool in my house, going to Lucky Strike bowling.”
• “I gave him a few rides in my car. I gave him cash a few times – not significant amounts. Maybe $100 here [or] $50 here. He was a very quiet individual. We took him to a strip joint called The Cheetah in Hallandale.”
• “He also wanted me to meet his brother, who was going to be the No. 1 recruited player coming out of high school that following year named Bryce Brown. I set up a trip for his mom, dad and spiritual adviser – which is another name for an agent – Brian Butler. They all came in from Kansas. I put them up at a hotel on Miami Beach.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-bryce_brown_allegations (http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-bryce_brown_allegations)
In Shapiro’s words
• “I met with [him] one time. That was March 2008. He was on a [unofficial] visit, which I paid for the hotels in Miami Beach. The Continental, I think, was the name of the hotel at 1825 Collins Avenue. I put his parents up. I put his adviser up, Brian Butler.”
• “I had lunch with Randy Phillips, [Bryce Brown], his brother Arthur, his parents and his adviser and a female companion to the tune of $500 at Smith & Wollenskys. He was at that time the No. 1 high school recruit in the country according to Rivals. He verbally committed to Miami. They were recruiting him very hard. He de-committed after his brother [Arthur] decided to transfer [out of Miami].”
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what are the odds arthur can make him "misremember the information"?
:goodbyecruelworld:
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pffftt....the kids didn't know about it, thought the parents were paying for it.
And how in gods name did Willie Williams not end up on that list? (hoping i missed it)
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:frown:
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Glad it's just dinner and hotel rooms. The prostitution and gifts would have been really bad. Can't believe Arthur left that.
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this guy stole a billion dollars worth of other people's money, nothing he says has any credibility. to non-retards.
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damn
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jesus, the browns kind of got screwed compared to the local dudes. I would've made a statement about getting left out of the good stuff.
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CAPTAINCRAP????
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hopefully this gives our recruiting a little bump and/or some ideas
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Any chance they just go after The U and leave our guys alone :dunno:
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we just got a whole lot less athletic. bill will keep them out until this is resolved...which won't be any time soon:
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-arthur_brown_allegations (http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-arthur_brown_allegations)
“He enrolled at the University of Miami in January, a semester early. I was introduced to Arthur through Randy Phillips. We spent a lot of time together playing pool in my house, going to Lucky Strike bowling.”
• “I gave him a few rides in my car. I gave him cash a few times – not significant amounts. Maybe $100 here [or] $50 here. He was a very quiet individual. We took him to a strip joint called The Cheetah in Hallandale.”
• “He also wanted me to meet his brother, who was going to be the No. 1 recruited player coming out of high school that following year named Bryce Brown. I set up a trip for his mom, dad and spiritual adviser – which is another name for an agent – Brian Butler. They all came in from Kansas. I put them up at a hotel on Miami Beach.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-bryce_brown_allegations (http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-bryce_brown_allegations)
In Shapiro’s words
• “I met with [him] one time. That was March 2008. He was on a [unofficial] visit, which I paid for the hotels in Miami Beach. The Continental, I think, was the name of the hotel at 1825 Collins Avenue. I put his parents up. I put his adviser up, Brian Butler.”
• “I had lunch with Randy Phillips, [Bryce Brown], his brother Arthur, his parents and his adviser and a female companion to the tune of $500 at Smith & Wollenskys. He was at that time the No. 1 high school recruit in the country according to Rivals. He verbally committed to Miami. They were recruiting him very hard. He de-committed after his brother [Arthur] decided to transfer [out of Miami].”
:goodbyecruelworld:
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:zzz:
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Any chance they just go after The U and leave our guys alone :dunno:
I really hope so :pray:
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:jerk:
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That guy sounds rough ridin' awesome!
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Also- doesn't it seem a bit odd just how accurately he remembers details? Love how he wasn't sure of the name of the hotel but he knew the address. Whole thing stinks and I would be seriously surprised if anything happened, let alone to players.
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:zzz:
nothing will come of this
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:users:
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we just got a whole lot less athletic. bill will keep them out until this is resolved...which won't be any time soon:
Uber compliant Currie will see to this.
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Hoping they just leave the browns alone. This blows hard. :bang:
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Really disappointed in how many babies this board has anymore.
Disgusting.
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Hoping they just leave the browns alone. This blows hard. :bang:
you said it Luke, this blows hard
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FHSU
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we just got a whole lot less athletic. bill will keep them out until this is resolved...which won't be any time soon:
Uber compliant Currie will see to this.
We need a hero.....we need...
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This story is incredibly awesome. They're going to go down hard.
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This story is incredibly awesome. They're going to go down hard.
:dubious:
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do the right thing ncaa...make them forfeit game to ksucats
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Remeber how long it took the NCAA to come down on USC for Reggie Bush, I think we are in the clear because both Brown brother will be gone, by the time the NCAA is done with their iinvestigation and k-state has no other connectioin
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this guy stole a billion dollars worth of other people's money, nothing he says has any credibility. to non-retards.
No rough ridin' crap!! This guys' nose will be bigger than Ron Jeremy's dick before this is over
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:donotwant:
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Our chances of winning the big 12 this year just doubled.
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Our chances of winning the big 12 this year just doubled.
so now we are up to .000000000002% :dunno:
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Our chances of winning the big 12 this year just doubled.
so now we are up to .000000000002% :dunno:
eff you gooch! :curse:
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How bad would it suck if Miami just got hammered by the NCAA? The U hasn't won crap during that time frame. At least USC, OSU, AU, etc won crap.
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anyone remember the dollar numbers for the bump from 10% to 30% of games suspended for impermissible benefits? $300? $500? something like that.
1 game or 3, either way, bfd.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news;_ylt=An39r2crR_jyHAtAtoel9oJRMuB_?slug=ys-arthur_brown_allegations
http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-bryce_brown_allegations
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Our chances of winning the big 12 this year just doubled.
so now we are up to .000000000002% :dunno:
eff you gooch! :curse:
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How bad would it suck if Miami just got hammered by the NCAA? The U hasn't won crap during that time frame. At least USC, OSU, AU, etc won crap.
people are saying worst violations since smu and you think they might not get hammered?
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Bye arthur and bryce
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i meant to say comparable to smu, not merely worst since.
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How bad would it suck if Miami just got hammered by the NCAA? The U hasn't won crap during that time frame. At least USC, OSU, AU, etc won crap.
people are saying worst violations since smu and you think they might not get hammered?
All they have to do is blame one person, say no one else knew, fire that person, and forfeit past games and NCAA will be glad they didn't have to do any work and will agree.
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Doubt they get hammered based on the testimony of some dude who's in jail for lying to people's faces and robbing them blind. :dunno:
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it's not a case of he said/she said. and it's way, way worse than usc or osu.
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it's not a case of he said/she said. and it's way, way worse than usc or osu.
miami is gonna get raped.
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it's not a case of he said/she said. and it's way, way worse than usc or osu.
miami is gonna get raped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA7cGhDkexo&feature=related
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The AD is now at Texas Tech.
The basketball coach is now at Missouri.
Some of the players are on our team.
This conference is going to get real good if we can just hold it together.
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Doubt they get hammered based on the testimony of some dude who's in jail for lying to people's faces and robbing them blind. :dunno:
did you look at the report? They have rough ridin' receipts and documents with names. It's not just some pussy allegations.
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12/4 = 3
will miss Miami i bet
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I bet Frank new all of this was going down. Sly son of a bitch.
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loss to Miami is firmly implanted.......
"we didnd't have Arthur and Bryce...so...."
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The AD is now at Texas Tech.
The basketball coach is now at Missouri.
Some of the players are on our team.
This conference is going to get real good if we can just hold it together.
The AD went to K-State.
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12/4 = 3
will miss Miami i bet
FWIW, Miami should ALSO be missing a few guys....
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Doubt they get hammered based on the testimony of some dude who's in jail for lying to people's faces and robbing them blind. :dunno:
did you look at the report? They have rough ridin' receipts and documents with names. It's not just some pussy allegations.
DOCUMENTS WITH NAMES! :ohno:
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http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31358293
Miami misdeeds could be trouble for Kansas State
Posted on: August 16, 2011 8:51 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli
If you're anything like me, you're still trying to wrap your brain around the latest Yahoo! Sports bomb to be detonated, this time at Miami. Unfortunately for plenty of schools around the country, the allegations made against the Miami football program aren't confined to Coral Gables. They even stretch as far as Manhattan, Kansas and the Kansas State football program.
Current Kansas State linebacker and former Miami linebacker Arthur Brown is one of the many players that former Miami booster Nevin Shapiro claims he provided with a variety of benefits while they attended the school. To make matters worse for Kansas State, Brown's brother Bryce Brown -- Kansas State's running back -- was present when his brother received some of these benefits.
Here's a list of the benefits allegedly received by Arthur Brown.
- A dinner at Benihana and a trip to a strip club called The Cheetah in which Shapiro paid for all of Brown's food, drinks and private entertainment at the club.
- Lunch for Brown at Smith and Wollensky's with Brown, his parents, brother Bryce Brown and adviser Brian Butler which totaled $532. A bill paid for by Shapiro.
- Two rooms at the Continental Oceanfront Hotel for Brown, his family and adviser totaling $1,110.19. Paid for by Shapiro.
- Food, drinks and entertainment at Lucky Strike Lanes on at least one occasion.
- Food, drinks and entertainment during pool tournaments at Shapiro's mansion.
- Transportation from Miami staffer Sean Allen at the direction of Shapiro.
At the time of Bryce Brown's visits he was being recruited by Miami.
“[Arthur] also wanted me to meet his brother," Shapiro told Yahoo."Who was going to be the No. 1 recruited player coming out of high school that following year named Bryce Brown. I set up a trip for his mom, dad and spiritual adviser – which is another name for an agent – Brian Butler. They all came in from Kansas. I put them up at a hotel on Miami Beach.”
This is not good news at all for Kansas State, as the team was counting on both the Brown brothers to be major contributors to the team this season. At this point, if LHC Bill Snyder and the Kansas State staff chooses to let them play they run the risk of playing ineligible players which could lead to vacated wins and violations at Kansas State.
So, as you can see, this story is not just Miami's problem.
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loss to Miami is firmly implanted.......
"we didnd't have Arthur and Bryce...so...."
Miami has 12 starters implicated in this FWIW
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Newton's dad got 200k and Cam didn't miss a game. A and B will be long gone before anything happens.
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To make matters worse for Kansas State, Brown's brother Bryce Brown -- Kansas State's third string running back -- was present when his brother received some of these benefits.
No sweat brah
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God I love College Football. :lynchmob:
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http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31358293
Miami misdeeds could be trouble for Kansas State
Posted on: August 16, 2011 8:51 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli
If you're anything like me, you're still trying to wrap your brain around the latest Yahoo! Sports bomb to be detonated, this time at Miami. Unfortunately for plenty of schools around the country, the allegations made against the Miami football program aren't confined to Coral Gables. They even stretch as far as Manhattan, Kansas and the Kansas State football program.
Current Kansas State linebacker and former Miami linebacker Arthur Brown is one of the many players that former Miami booster Nevin Shapiro claims he provided with a variety of benefits while they attended the school. To make matters worse for Kansas State, Brown's brother Bryce Brown -- Kansas State's running back -- was present when his brother received some of these benefits.
Here's a list of the benefits allegedly received by Arthur Brown.
- A dinner at Benihana and a trip to a strip club called The Cheetah in which Shapiro paid for all of Brown's food, drinks and private entertainment at the club.
- Lunch for Brown at Smith and Wollensky's with Brown, his parents, brother Bryce Brown and adviser Brian Butler which totaled $532. A bill paid for by Shapiro.
- Two rooms at the Continental Oceanfront Hotel for Brown, his family and adviser totaling $1,110.19. Paid for by Shapiro.
- Food, drinks and entertainment at Lucky Strike Lanes on at least one occasion.
- Food, drinks and entertainment during pool tournaments at Shapiro's mansion.
- Transportation from Miami staffer Sean Allen at the direction of Shapiro.
At the time of Bryce Brown's visits he was being recruited by Miami.
“[Arthur] also wanted me to meet his brother," Shapiro told Yahoo."Who was going to be the No. 1 recruited player coming out of high school that following year named Bryce Brown. I set up a trip for his mom, dad and spiritual adviser – which is another name for an agent – Brian Butler. They all came in from Kansas. I put them up at a hotel on Miami Beach.”
This is not good news at all for Kansas State, as the team was counting on both the Brown brothers to be major contributors to the team this season. At this point, if LHC Bill Snyder and the Kansas State staff chooses to let them play they run the risk of playing ineligible players which could lead to vacated wins and violations at Kansas State.
So, as you can see, this story is not just Miami's problem.
OB is awesome now. MCMW OB. :cheers:
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
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Newton's dad got 200k and Cam didn't miss a game. A and B will be long gone before anything happens.
Ya, but we could be charged playing with ineligible players.
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Doubt they get hammered based on the testimony of some dude who's in jail for lying to people's faces and robbing them blind. :dunno:
did you look at the report? They have effing receipts and documents with names. It's not just some pussy allegations.
Not saying Lucas did this b/c I'm guessing he didn't, but it wouldn't be difficult for him to create those bills using Quicken or whatever. What's weird is this guy kept documentation that is so detailed.
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Newton's dad got 200k and Cam didn't miss a game. A and B will be long gone before anything happens.
Ya, but we could be charged playing with ineligible players.
WGAF
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Meh. crap like this happens all the time and the schools responsible end up with slaps on the wrist. Guess Miami could force Coker to resign?
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
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Doubt they get hammered based on the testimony of some dude who's in jail for lying to people's faces and robbing them blind. :dunno:
did you look at the report? They have effing receipts and documents with names. It's not just some pussy allegations.
Not saying Lucas did this b/c I'm guessing he didn't, but it wouldn't be difficult for him to create those bills using Quicken or whatever. What's weird is this guy kept documentation that is so detailed.
Maybe he knew that this was eventually going to happen, so if he was going down then others would go down with him.
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Newton's dad got 200k and Cam didn't miss a game. A and B will be long gone before anything happens.
Ya, but we could be charged playing with ineligible players.
time to start taking those shots at the moon. How many years does OB have left/?
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I've seen the Cheetah III. I'm not familiar with the original Cheetah.
I always contemplate going to that Smith & Wollensky's in Vegas but we always go with more Vegas-y options.
Lucky Strike. :flush:
2 stars. :lol: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34439-d111888-Reviews-Continental_Oceanfront_Hotel_South_Beach-Miami_Beach_Florida.html
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Newton's dad got 200k and Cam didn't miss a game. A and B will be long gone before anything happens.
Ya, but we could be charged playing with ineligible players.
You make a good point. It didn't work out well for Auburn or USC. Hope we don't get mumped for playing them in the spring game. :facepalm:
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Meh. crap like this happens all the time and the schools responsible end up with slaps on the wrist.
examples?
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I swear Kansas State's luck sucks..... :facepalm:
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
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USC gave Bush's parents a freaking house and got 2 yrs of postseason ban. Add up everything the Browns are alleged to have received and it's what, 5k? What do you think a house in LA runs?
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To be fair, I always eat a shitload of Benihana when I'm coming off an extended tomato soup fast.
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
whoa...whoa...reign it in a little bit young Luke
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To be fair, I always eat a shitload of Benihana when I'm coming off an extended tomato soup fast.
Can't blame the guy that rough ridin' fried rice is hard to pass up no matter how wrong you know it is to accept it.
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
whoa...whoa...reign it in a little bit young Luke
sometimes i get just a little carried away. :shakesfist:
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
whoa...whoa...reign it in a little bit young Luke
sometimes i get just a little carried away. :shakesfist:
WavetheWheat...it's just Luke being Luke
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
whoa...whoa...reign it in a little bit young Luke
sometimes i get just a little carried away. :shakesfist:
WavetheWheat...it's just Luke being Luke
I like him. He's got fire.
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
whoa...whoa...reign it in a little bit young Luke
sometimes i get just a little carried away. :shakesfist:
WavetheWheat...it's just Luke being Luke
What's that supposed to mean!? :fatty:
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If KState gets mumped with the Brown Brothers, wouldn't Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Alabama, and Central Florida? They all had (or have) players who played who are on this list. Don't think all of those schools will get in trouble. Browns will be fine and will play all the games.
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USC gave Bush's parents a freaking house and got 2 yrs of postseason ban. Add up everything the Browns are alleged to have received and it's what, 5k? What do you think a house in LA runs?
I ain't talking about the Browns. They'll get some games. Miami is mumped tho.
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Dude, this takes me back the D.O.D. days when message boarding was uphill both ways...
Fans of other schools (who had beyond horrible football programs) would flame our board when our players got in trouble with great impunity.....as well as belitting our school colors. It was awful...but we perservered.....
Next up, making fun of our weak schedule. :emawkid:
Your schedule sux this year. :ksu:
your mom sux..alot of wang
whoa...whoa...reign it in a little bit young Luke
sometimes i get just a little carried away. :shakesfist:
WavetheWheat...it's just Luke being Luke
What's that supposed to mean!? :fatty:
it means you're the craziest sumbitch goEMAW has ever come across, that's what
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If KState gets effed with the Brown Brothers, wouldn't Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Alabama, and Central Florida? They all had (or have) players who played who are on this list. Don't think all of those schools will get in trouble. Browns will be fine and will play all the games.
This is a good point. But, maybe they will just eff all these schools to get a point across.
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USC gave Bush's parents a freaking house and got 2 yrs of postseason ban. Add up everything the Browns are alleged to have received and it's what, 5k? What do you think a house in LA runs?
bush was in the nfl, he couldn't be punished. the browns will get 1 game or 3 games, it's the exact same infraction as pullen, kelly and selby.
the only real question is if kstate self reports for everything alleged or just the one with the receipt/cc record ($500 something between 3 players).
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Hey jtksu, quit dumbassing up the thread.
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USC gave Bush's parents a freaking house and got 2 yrs of postseason ban. Add up everything the Browns are alleged to have received and it's what, 5k? What do you think a house in LA runs?
bush was in the nfl, he couldn't be punished. the browns will get 1 game or 3 games, it's the exact same infraction as pullen, kelly and selby.
the only real question is if kstate self reports for everything alleged or just the one with the receipt/cc record ($500 something between 3 players).
Uber compliant Currie will see to this.
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If KState gets effed with the Brown Brothers, wouldn't Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Alabama, and Central Florida? They all had (or have) players who played who are on this list. Don't think all of those schools will get in trouble. Browns will be fine and will play all the games.
This is a good point. But, maybe they will just eff all these schools to get a point across.
You're right. That's good for the NCAA. Ban all of your marquee institutions.
If either Brown get screwed its AB. Bryce was simply the little brother. Nothing will happen to him. AB may get a small suspension but I doubt this thing will get settled before Kent State. So we'll have him for the early games, maybe just miss the Texas game. No biggie.
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If KState gets effed with the Brown Brothers, wouldn't Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Alabama, and Central Florida? They all had (or have) players who played who are on this list. Don't think all of those schools will get in trouble. Browns will be fine and will play all the games.
This is a good point. But, maybe they will just eff all these schools to get a point across.
You're right. That's good for the NCAA. Ban all of your marquee institutions.
If either Brown get screwed its AB. Bryce was simply the little brother. Nothing will happen to him. AB may get a small suspension but I doubt this thing will get settled before Kent State. So we'll have him for the early games, maybe just miss the Texas game. No biggie.
I don't think Bill will play Bryce until he knows this has all blown over. It's too risky.
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If KState gets mumped with the Brown Brothers, wouldn't Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Alabama, and Central Florida? They all had (or have) players who played who are on this list. Don't think all of those schools will get in trouble. Browns will be fine and will play all the games.
The smallest of these will get it. We better make sure we aren't them, so we just need to push Central Florida down and walk away with the others.
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If KState gets effed with the Brown Brothers, wouldn't Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Alabama, and Central Florida? They all had (or have) players who played who are on this list. Don't think all of those schools will get in trouble. Browns will be fine and will play all the games.
This is a good point. But, maybe they will just eff all these schools to get a point across.
You're right. That's good for the NCAA. Ban all of your marquee institutions.
If either Brown get screwed its AB. Bryce was simply the little brother. Nothing will happen to him. AB may get a small suspension but I doubt this thing will get settled before Kent State. So we'll have him for the early games, maybe just miss the Texas game. No biggie.
I don't think Bill will play Bryce until he knows this has all blown over. It's too risky.
I have to admit, this kid is good. :) (ftp://:))
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:-(
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Somebody better put PW on suicide watch. :frown:
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I need a cigarette! :ohno:
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Turn on ESPN right now this stuff is on!
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What a great picture!
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Guess we should've seen this coming when we staged the big goEMAW giant check presentation at the bowling alley back in April.
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Just when I start to believe that I will not have to watch Hrbeck get trucked any longer. :facepalm:
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This and conf aramageddon = bbs gold.
All goEMAW staff, feel free to take that jumbo HELOC.
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Kellis tweets tonight are not helping
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http://www.kansas.com/2011/08/16/1976616/arthur-bryce-brown-among-players.html
updated story
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This and conf aramageddon = bbs gold.
All goEMAW staff, feel free to take that jumbo HELOC.
Yeah, for both, there's nothing left to do but laugh.
And let's face it, Bryce is a third-stringer here and Arthur couldn't get off the bench for a shitty U. I think there's 5 words that sum this situation up.
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Here's a question that no one could possibly know the answer to:
If BB is indeed declared ineligible, will Tennessee have to forfeit games that he played in as a frosh? They were really bad that year and he didn't play in many games, but I thought that was interesting. Carry on.
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This is on Snyder.
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This is on Snyder.
:lol:
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Just got off work... what did I miss today?
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Just got off work... what did I miss today?
Might want to get reading...
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Need Pan right about now to spend 25 minutes writing something that will reassure me. :frown:
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KU fans on the Phog are partying like they just won a championship. Congrats 'hawks, you earned it.
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Here's a question that no one could possibly know the answer to:
If BB is indeed declared ineligible, will Tennessee have to forfeit games that he played in as a frosh? They were really bad that year and he didn't play in many games, but I thought that was interesting. Carry on.
oooo thats deep. good post :thumbs:
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This is on Snyder.
Wrong. Clearly PW's fault.
Sorry PW, I know I said I "got you" in the lets be friends thread; but surely you can see that everyone you make a video about is just rough ridin' cursed.
I still enjoy the ocean breeze, solar eclipses & the expanding universe... but this is KSU football.... We're still friends - but I'm calling you out.
You hurt me bro... you hurt me bad. :cry:
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MEH. Everything will work out.
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It's Cosh!
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Because they were ruling on the case, and the Clearninghouse was not allowed to clear him. It took them all the way to Nov 19 to officially rule on a case that they basically understood a year prior. Selby missed all of those practices and exhibitions because of the incompetence of the NCAA. With the allegations coming out a few weeks before the first game, you can bet that quite a few players with connections to the U won't be playing until all the facts are gathered. Then it should take some more time to actually hand out any suspensions to players and coaches no longer at Miami. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Browns punished in the 2012 season.
:lol:
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MEH. Everything will work out.
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there should be two threads. one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
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http://sportsillustrated.asia/vault/article/magazine/MAG1006688/index.htm?sct=hp_t11_a6 (http://sportsillustrated.asia/vault/article/magazine/MAG1006688/index.htm?sct=hp_t11_a6)
Could this really happen? I think so...
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It makes you wonder what KSU had to pay to get the Brown brothers. At least they were able to make use of LHC Bill Snyder's recruiting slush fund account, which came up during the Ron Prince fiasco.
I'd think the biggest problem for the Brown brothers is that if they're suspended while the investigation is ongoing it could be awhile before the investigators make it out to Manhattan with all the stuff they'll have to dig through in Miami. Plus leaving Miami for Manhattan is never a good thing. Just ask Frank Martin.
LOL! Looks like it was a bit more pervasive for the Brothers Brown than the "it was just one dinner and a night at the strip club" apologists over in grape la la land are saying. Saint Snyder of Assisi better be careful how he plays this one ...
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I had completely forgotten about the old "Snyder Recruiting Slush Fund" account.
:kstategrad:
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there should be two threads. one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
:thumbs:
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there should be two threads. one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
in a perfect world
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Do we play the Brown bros.?
Who wants to be an emaw hero and copy/paste this thread?
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hilarous that Randy Shannon is completely absent from any of this and they fired him for trying to clean up the program :lol:
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omg
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amazing. what heroes.
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:lol:
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It's interesting that anyone, who is a fan of any team in the country, fears forfeiting games.
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should say yahoo on the truck, but whatevs...
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Shapiro paid for two hotel rooms, registered to Arthur Brown Sr. and Butler,
I think we already know how the NCAA will rule this one.
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Kinda think Currie will want to get the Browns off. That'd just be another feather in the cap before he heads to the SEC.
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This guy ain't worried...
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:love:
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Gotta give props to Bob ;
"I don't expect to win enough games to be put on
> NCAA probation. I just want to win enough to warrant
> an investigation."
> Bob Devaney / Nebraska
:pbj: :pbj: :woot:
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Luther Campbell responds :surprised:
crap just got real, son http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/08/nevin_shapiro_can_kiss_my_ass.php
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there should be two threads. one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
actually 4 threads.
one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
then one about the big, juicy miami story that bookcat starts. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns that bookcat starts.
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there should be two threads. one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
actually 4 threads.
one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
then one about the big, juicy miami story that bookcat starts. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns that bookcat starts.
Excellent.
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there should be two threads. one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
actually 4 threads.
one about the big, juicy miami story. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns.
then one about the big, juicy miami story that bookcat starts. and another for dumbasses worried about the browns that bookcat starts.
lol
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What a great picture!
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Guess we should've seen this coming when we staged the big goEMAW giant check presentation at the bowling alley back in April.
What is going on with that woman's (?) pants?
EDIT: NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE PANTS ON 810!!! Hi Stephen, Hi Nate!
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What a great picture!
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Guess we should've seen this coming when we staged the big goEMAW giant check presentation at the bowling alley back in April.
What is going on with that woman's (?) pants?
EDIT: NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE PANTS ON 810!!! Hi Stephen, Hi Nate!
Really accentuates the fupa
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What a great picture!
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Guess we should've seen this coming when we staged the big goEMAW giant check presentation at the bowling alley back in April.
What is going on with that woman's (?) pants?
EDIT: NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE PANTS ON 810!!! Hi Stephen, Hi Nate!
lol
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If I were a KSU fan I would be getting nervous about Harper, too. The NCAA has Oregon in its crosshairs, and obviously they're aware of Butler, so they'll probably be looking for anything shady that might have gone on with Harper (another one of Butler's clients) landing in Oregon.
This must be December 25th. MU and KSU squirming in their seats. Priceless!
What I do not get is why Snyder courts these transfers who are of questionable character. There has been talk about the Brown brothers and Harper in the past. Snyder had to know that, and yet, he still accepts their transfers to KSU. The Taters must really need to take the risk to get guys like that into the purple program. Then, hope that nothing surfaces that makes Snyder regret the day he let them come to Manhattan.
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The Taters
We're the Taters now? Is this Tate related? :love:
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haha. ku fans are great. :thumbs:
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haha. ku fans are great. :thumbs:
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If there is one thing that old balls doesn't give a rats ass about, it's elite players doing dirty things.
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This must be December 25th. MU and KSU squirming in their seats. Priceless!
What I do not get is why Snyder courts these transfers who are of questionable character. There has been talk about the Brown brothers and Harper in the past. Snyder had to know that, and yet, he still accepts their transfers to KSU. The Taters must really need to take the risk to get guys like that into the purple program. Then, hope that nothing surfaces that makes Snyder regret the day he let them come to Manhattan.
Good God, yes. Saint Snyder of Assisi has finally publicly and spectacularly fouled his pants. This thing has lit a long fuse that may blow his regime right out of the water in mancrappenin.
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If there is one thing that old balls doesn't give a rats ass about, it's elite players doing dirty things.
yeah, this is what made him successful the first time around and what has given us a chance to not suck this time around
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Good God, yes. Saint Snyder of Assisi has finally publicly and spectacularly fouled his pants. This thing has lit a long fuse that may blow his regime right out of the water in mancrappenin.
pffftttt :thumbs:
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This is incredible.
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This is incredible.
I want to see the full video it came from. I want more.
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Gotta give props to Bob ;
"I don't expect to win enough games to be put on
> NCAA probation. I just want to win enough to warrant
> an investigation."
> Bob Devaney / Nebraska
:pbj: :pbj: :woot:
Normally your posts suck but that is a beauty. Devaney sounds like a hero.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a non-issue for EMAW football?
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It's been 33 years since a major sport program at K-State has receieved direct sanctions from the NCAA.
If it happens now, it will be a sign of great progress. :thumbsup:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
omg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
We need to start throwing multi-person combofan signs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
We need to start throwing multi-person combofan signs.
okay, but the tongue out/fist pump combo (both at a high frequency) does not look very easy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
:love: :love: :love:
Now accepting caption submissions for new avatar.
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LSUFreek is not funny.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a non-issue for EMAW football?
seconded.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
We need to start throwing multi-person combofan signs.
okay, but the tongue out/fist pump combo (both at a high frequency) does not look very easy.
Agreed. I think we stop at the pseudo-serious look to the signee while flashing the sign.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a non-issue for EMAW football?
seconded.
It is a big issue for the www.goEMAW board though. I want to have every ku fan thinking this is HUGE. We may actually coax Ben out of hiding...
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LSUFreek is not funny.
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If there is one thing that old balls doesn't give a rats ass about, it's elite players doing dirty things.
MCMW
-taters
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Guys, imagine if this get's OB canned! :love: :love: :love:
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Guys, imagine if this get's OB canned! :love: :love: :love:
Snyder will never be fired, but is it possible something could get him to step down? Absolutely.
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LSUFreek is not funny.
:dunno:
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a non-issue for EMAW football?
seconded.
It is a big issue for the www.goEMAW board though. I want to have every ku fan thinking this is HUGE. We may actually coax Ben out of hiding...
understood
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If I found out that the money I had been raining on prostitutes was stolen from sad old people I would be devastated.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq-FQQ5NIQ
:kstategrad:
Repeatedly type 8
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Actually if this happened at KU, you guys would have your super bowl. We don't live like that. We have things to be proud of. It's the folks that don't have success that take more satisfaction in one of their rivals having problems, not the other way around. Nice try though.
We just find this amusing because KSU/MU fans were over here telling us how bad our kids were (Selby), and now it happens to be turning on them.
How many grapes and slavers were giggling, drooling, and starting threads over here during those days?
It's because they have small pen!ses
Remember when Bryce Brown visited KU on their Junior day, acted like a jackass, and was basically told thanks but no thanks by Mangino and staff and sent home? Remember when KSU fans laughed that KU wouldn't take Brown? Oops
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Remember when Bryce Brown visited KU on their Junior day, acted like a jackass, and was basically told thanks but no thanks by Mangino and staff and sent home? Remember when KSU fans laughed that KU wouldn't take Brown? Oops
i remember when Mangino had a job :dunno:
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Actually if this happened at KU, you guys would have your super bowl. We don't live like that. We have things to be proud of. It's the folks that don't have success that take more satisfaction in one of their rivals having problems, not the other way around. Nice try though.
We just find this amusing because KSU/MU fans were over here telling us how bad our kids were (Selby), and now it happens to be turning on them.
How many grapes and slavers were giggling, drooling, and starting threads over here during those days?
It's because they have small pen!ses
Remember when Bryce Brown visited KU on their Junior day, acted like a jackass, and was basically told thanks but no thanks by Mangino and staff and sent home? Remember when KSU fans laughed that KU wouldn't take Brown? Oops
lol :thumbs:
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I hate kstate more than most but I just can't see that they have done anything wrong here besides recruit a couple of idiots. I wish there was more, but there just isn't so far!
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http://www.kgso.com/about-kgso/audio-locker/
I'm only 6 minutes in but it sounds like we're going with the Cam Newton defense.
Also, Brian Butler agrees with Yelp that the Continental is a crap hotel.
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I hate kstate more than most but I just can't see that they have done anything wrong here besides recruit a couple of idiots. I wish there was more, but there just isn't so far!
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Thanks for sharing from kutuckville.
Nothing draws in more posts on a ku BBS, nothing draws more comments in a ku publication, and history records again and again, nothing draws more fans for ku . . . than K-State.
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Re: I am SHOCKED to see the Brown brothers mentioned
It doesn't have any more to do with KSU than Selby's issues did with KU, but that didn't stop 99.9% of KSU fans from thinking it incriminated Bill Self.
Does the Brown brothers issues at Miami directly implicate KSU, of course not. If you combine it with coming in 3rd for Newton (other 2 teams are directly linked with money or offers) it doesn't look so great, but good luck getting more than a handful of KSU fans to admit that.
KSU fans have a more holier than thou attitude than any other fanbase we deal with regularly. The majority of you are either naive, stupid, or choose ignore that your program isn't 100% clean.
I'm suddenly much more interested in the recruitment of the Brown Brothers to K-State. I'm not in a position to accuse K-State of violating any rules, but how in the hell do you get kids away from top-tier football schools where their food, sex and entertainment is being paid for, back to Manhattan?
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a non-issue for EMAW football?
seconded.
Not concerned.
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KSU fans have a more holier than thou attitude
Holy crap... :lol:
keep em coming :popcorn:
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Any press is good press right? :thumbsup:
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Any press is good press right? :thumbsup:
Especially if it implies that we are kinda dirty and may be willing to pay.
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Especially considering we have the means to pay. :kstategrad:
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Especially considering we have the means to pay. :kstategrad:
Having the kind of "rep" will only help us in the move to Super-Conferences!
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Let's assume Arthur and Bryce play all year, then the NCAA decides they were ineligible for each game. We went 8-5. Why, as fans, do we care, at all, that those 8 wins don't count*?
I want a serious answer, seriously.
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Serious answer for PW: I don't care one $!#* hair's little bit.
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Let's assume Arthur and Bryce play all year, then the NCAA decides they were ineligible for each game. We went 8-5. Why, as fans, do we care, at all, that those 8 wins don't count*?
I want a serious answer, seriously.
I would only care in that we should get 9 wins if we play with ineligible players. Seems like a good benchmark.
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Butler is a joke. He uses a hill in view of my house to train his kids. The entire month of July he had kids going for a hour at a time in the 100+ heat. I do not think he has the knowldge to be a trainer. He said he did not know that Shapiro was a booster. He is either a fool or stupid, if he is charging to help get kid scholarships you better know the rules.
fbc4life wrote:
And don't act all high and mighty either. If A and B Brown had wanted to transfer to KU.......Gill and everyone on this board would have accepted them.
We don't really know that. Gill told Crawford thanks but no thanks when he asked to return to the team. If he suspects a guy is going to be more harmful than good, I think Gill will avoid that player. The question is if Gill would have recognized the character issues or not.
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phog.net is such a treasure.
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This is fantastic. phognet etc. has officially jumped back in the LHC Bill Snyder paranoia bandwagon. Folks if this continues this will make for some fantastic :users:
One of my favorites from years ago was, "LHC Bill Snyder flew in on a helicopter to talk the kid out of going to ku".
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This is fantastic. phognet etc. has officially jumped back in the LHC Bill Snyder paranoia bandwagon. Folks if this continues this will make for some fantastic :users:
One of my favorites from years ago was, "Bill Snyder flew in on a helicoptor to talk the kid out of going to ku".
What a photoshop opportunity. I am thinking the chopper from magnum PI. Cosh = Rick, Mo = TC
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Mo = TC
Brandon Harold.
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KellisRobinett Kellis Robinett
Outside expert tells me K-State's best plan for action here is to interview Brown brothers and self report any violations ASAP.
austin_meek Austin Meek
KSU could play Browns, but there's a risk of forfeiting games if they are later deemed ineligible. KSU tends to err on the side of caution
:users:
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The Pat Bosco Football Extravaganza
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So by phogs reasoning the Browns have character issues because they got lunch and a hotel room? I guess it's no beating your girlfriend incident.
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When does somebody find out how many reps, (and on what teams) the Brown Brothers were getting in practice today?
When does the ksuck AD or Snyder issue a statement or answer any questions about their intentions regarding sitting them until further notice from the NCAA or what kind of communique may have come from the NCAA today?
Just wondering about a few things ...
Nobody knows how good they really are. One couldn't get on the field in two years at Miami, and the other had numbers that weren't really any better than James Sims as a freshman, with a better team and OL to block for him.
The most outstanding thing about the Browns throughout their career has been their hype. They played HS ball in a pretty mediocre league, and they didn't lead their team to much of anything there either.
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i'm no bylaw blogger (i mean compared to most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fans i am, but compared to real bylaw bloggers i'm not), but i'm pretty sure that if you knowingly play an ineligible player it's a more serious infraction than if you play an ineligible player without knowing it. i don't think it's just * the record and done.
kstate will self-report. the tenn brown will get 1 game, the miami brown 3. that's it, that's why you have noncon games.
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i'm no bylaw blogger (i mean compared to most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fans i am, but compared to real bylaw bloggers i'm not), but i'm pretty sure that if you knowingly play an ineligible player it's a more serious infraction than if you play an ineligible player without knowing it. i don't think it's just * the record and done.
kstate will self-report. the tenn brown will get 1 game, the miami brown 3. that's it, that's why you have noncon games.
yeah
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would take.
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ATTN: All awesome players that play for teams other than Kansas State...
Contact me to get PAID
:kstategrad:
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I'm all for winning and playing them. I don't care if we have to vacate them. Oklahoma losing the wins from whatever season didn't make our loss to them feel any better and probably didn't make their win feel any worse to them. If they want our wins, they can strip them. I just want the wins in the meantime.
That said, I'll bet the result is the 1 and 3 game thing.
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Frank Haith: I'm guilty, but it's not like I go to strip clubs all the time or anything courtesy boosters.
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just watching ESPN, and they said they could start the investigation clear back to 2002 when what's his nuts started paying players, so correct me if I'm wrong wouldn't take quit a long while before it catches and reaches the brown bro's?
On that, we're in the clear then right, at least for a while? :dunno:
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just watching ESPN, and they said they could start the investigation clear back to 2002 when what's his nuts started paying players, so correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it take quit a long while before it catches and reaches the brown bro's?
On that, we're in the clear then right, at least for a while? :dunno:
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just watching ESPN, and they said they could start the investigation clear back to 2002 when what's his nuts started paying players, so correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it take quit a long while before it catches and reaches the brown bro's?
On that, we're in the clear then right, at least for a while? :dunno:
The best thing we can do is self report and make sure the suspensions are served in the nonconference games.
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:lol:
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The only type of thing I would not want vacated would be a Big12 championship, a BCS bowl win, or a MNC. Since none of those are going to happen, I'm all for playing the crap out of them and (maybe) later vacating 8 wins or whatever.
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KellisRobinett Kellis Robinett
Second expert tells me Miami players should be benched, but not Brown brothers. Describes their transfer as a "get-out-of-jail-free card."
KellisRobinett Kellis Robinett
Also tells me K-State should be concerned, talking with Brown brothers and Big 12 office, but these cases usually don't follow transfers.
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Man it must really suck to be a Miami fan right now. ESPN has devoted their entire afternoon line up to them
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pffffffftttt.....
BITB talking to Fitz right now and Fitz just said it was really impressive how the guy at yahoo! worked and worked on the story for months and months and it's really groundbreaking journalism....
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something overlooked in all of this.
add 1 more win to the season. :comeatme:
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pffffffftttt.....
BITB talking to Fitz right now and Fitz just said it was really impressive how the guy at yahoo! worked and worked on the story for months and months and it's really groundbreaking journalism....
Just think if the yahoo! guy sat at a bar and tweeted dick jokes all day? The U would be in the clear
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pffffffftttt.....
BITB talking to Fitz right now and Fitz just said it was really impressive how the guy at yahoo! worked and worked on the story for months and months and it's really groundbreaking journalism....
Just think if the yahoo! guy sat at a bar and tweeted dick jokes all day? The U would be in the clear
You're right...we are lucky to have Fitz as our main media covg for KSU.
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something overlooked in all of this.
add 1 more win to the season. :comeatme:
:dubious:
from "If we get beat by Miami" thread.
Things are lookin up fellas!
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Attorney-NCAA-looking-into-Miami-football-program-and-claims-of-extra-benefits-081511
:comeatme: :pbj: :gocho: :party: :drink:
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something overlooked in all of this.
add 1 more win to the season. :comeatme:
:dubious:
from "If we get beat by Miami" thread.
Things are lookin up fellas!
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Attorney-NCAA-looking-into-Miami-football-program-and-claims-of-extra-benefits-081511
:comeatme: :pbj: :gocho: :party: :drink:
sorry, bro. i normally skip your posts (no offense)
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pffffffftttt.....
BITB talking to Fitz right now and Fitz just said it was really impressive how the guy at yahoo! worked and worked on the story for months and months and it's really groundbreaking journalism....
Just think if the yahoo! guy sat at a bar and tweeted dick jokes all day? The U would be in the clear
You're right...we are lucky to have Fitz as our main media covg for KSU.
BITB: This couldn't even happen in Manhattan could it? There isn't even a strip club in town.
Fitz: No there isn't and that's a problem on many levels... :creepylaugh:
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Man it must really suck to be a Miami fan right now. ESPN has devoted their entire afternoon line up to them
this should appease the "I hate ESPN. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE." media crowd. Actually probably not.
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The silence from mancrappenin still seems to be deafening today. They evidently refused to comment to Austin Meek last night, but how long can Old Ballz get away with that? Hell, Misery -- not exactly a bastion of being forthcoming to the media during times of scandal -- at least put out some kind of perfunctory release last night.
Were the Brown boys actively participating at practice today? What are the plans about their immediate status heading into the season? Has ksuck been advised by the NCAA or by their own compliance people to sit them?
Time for the ksuck beat writers to get off their knees in front of Saint Snyder of Assisi and actually do their jobs.
I'm saying it's the JOB of the press in general and the ksuck beat writers in particular to ask Old Ballz and ksuck the questions. If he wants to stonewall and refuse to answer any questions about their status and pretend it's still the 1990s and there's not a national firestorm going on about the UM scandal and all of it's tentacles and try to not let info out until the day before the first game, that's his prerogative. But his taking that approach then becomes the story, dontcha think? He may think the universe revolves around him and his subservient group of media lapdogs, but it's at least possible he's about to find out otherwise.
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Dont know if this was posted yet, but Golden is basically saying "I want the eff out"
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sns-rt-fbc-newss1742bbda1-20110817,0,4897851.story
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Attrail Snipes
Every college in the nation should be under investigation I'm pretty sure a player from every school has accepted some form of benefits
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Rob Cassidy
Statement from K-State says it has been in contact with the NCAA, and the league has "no concerns" about the Browns' eligibility at KSU.
Rob Cassidy
So, I guess that's that.
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Hey losers, how does our ass taste?
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Congrats guys. We did it. We're big time :gocho:
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To the Phog!
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To the Phog!
:cheese:
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LOL
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Hey PHOG! Does it feel like you just got tea bagged? :cheers:
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Feels good :cool:
:thumbsup: to ADJC for handling biz as usual. :kstategrad:
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Rob Cassidy
Statement from K-State says it has been in contact with the NCAA, and the league has "no concerns" about the Browns' eligibility at KSU.
Rob Cassidy
So, I guess that's that.
bball gets screwed again. :curse:
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Currie was just like, "pffft, wtf is this crap?" :ump:
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I always love the kutuckville approach . . . it's straight of the Roy "I am no longer recruiting that player" Williams pre-preemptive press conference playbook.
Issue all kinds of press releases and hold a litany of press conferences about a story that came from Yahoo a little over a day ago . . . of course this applies to all schools not named ku.
Does anyone recall, when the Ticket Scandal/Money Laundering/Pump Brothers story broke, was ku issuing all kinds of statements and holding pressers within 24 hours?
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so let's not be d bags about this guys? mmkay?
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Currie was just like, "pffft, wtf is this crap?" :ump:
This is gold!
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i'm just throwing this out there, but i luv this board :nohomo: When i should be all :confused: :drink: :bawl: :bang: :shakesfist:, i'm actually :lol: :lol: :thumbsup: :cheers: :lynchmob: because of you guys (non-sexist generalization)
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so let's not be d bags about this guys? mmkay?
Why? When is the last time we got away with something? This is HUGE
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:emawkid: :drink:
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:-)
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Currie was just like, "pffft, wtf is this crap?" :ump:
The caravan of meat goat trailers has turned around is is heading back to MHK. :pbj:
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Feels good that my Canadian friend didn't even have to write a letter to the ed. this time.
:party: to getting away with cheating! MCMW. Let's get this BCS Championship party started.
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oh man. snyder is rolling out the dough to get brown bros, brod and harps back playing football in the state of kansas and the whole world just turns a blind eye. only big time programs get away w/ stuff like this fellas. pop a collar or two. we've earned it.
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“There are membership levels within the Hurricane Club at the University of Miami. While I was athletics director, the benefits and experiences Mr. Shapiro received were consistent with those provided to others at his membership level. I never personally approved any special access for Mr. Shapiro to university athletics events or programs.”
Yet another Wildcat absolved of wrongdoing.
Fun to see everyone who was involved at UM scramble to make public statements proclaiming ignorance/or even outright innocence of the whole thing. Meanwhile Shapiro was somehow leading the Canes through the smoke tunnel on game days and buying strippers by the bakers dozen for a football team he had complete access to.
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amazing how untouchable of a university we are.
we are kansas state.
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GAME ON! :woot:
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I am now officially ready for the season to start :lynchmob:
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the parties that big 12 running backs were planning on having tonight just got bombarded by john currie. :gocho:
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we're really lucky that arthur was a bust. otherwise, the sky's the limit on how much shapiro would have blown on him.
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How are the tucks rationalizing the fact that Snyder is down with cheating while Ron Prince refused to cheat in order to get the Brown Bros?
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I really think it would be great if we sat them out a game anyway. Just cuz... :comeatme: (ftp://:comeatme:)
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How are the tucks rationalizing the fact that Snyder is down with cheating while Ron Prince refused to cheat in order to get the Brown Bros?
what if all this new snyder "texting" is really just him sending players money through venmo? :woot:
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PHOG
"Arthur left because he was forced out. Got in trouble because he got in a fight with his GF and locked her in his apartment/room. Wouldn't let her leave. Basically was told transfer out and charges won't be pressed."
"Bryce reneged on his commit because he didn't want to compete with Lamar Miller." :comeatme: :kstategrad:
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sooo happy! :cheers:
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"I remember one time someone asked Jacory Harris how well his o-line protected him and he said something like "I haven't had this kind of protection since last night". I think this was the 09 FSU game. " :lol:
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Rob Cassidy
Statement from K-State says it has been in contact with the NCAA, and the league has "no concerns" about the Browns' eligibility at KSU.
Rob Cassidy
So, I guess that's that.
bball gets screwed again. :curse:
Bosco can only do so much.
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What is the NCAA supposed to say at this point? "Allegations have been made, and we have not finished our investigation, but the Browns of K-State are ineligible." That's not how it works. Your gloating is way premature.
This deal is far from being over.
Bryce Brown should have been the best back by far as soon as camp started this year. He wasn't. That should be as troubling to Staters as any potential suspensions. It's not like he's an 18 year old freshman just getting adjusted
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Frank's probably like :curse: right now at Currie for suspending :ck: for much less. Sure hope this doens't make Frank want to go to Miami this summer....oh wait nevermind. :lol:
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Frank's probably like :curse: right now at Currie for suspending :ck: for much less. Sure hope this doens't make Frank want to go to Miami this summer....oh wait nevermind. :lol:
Yeah still pissed about UNLV.
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Such givers over at the Phog.
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Oh man if Frank would have got the Miami job :lol: :lol: :lol:
This whole deal is making fantastic BBSing for the KSU cats fans
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This is what I hope happens to Miami (Da U)...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call)
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This is what I hope happens to Miami (Da U)...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call)
that is fantastic
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This is what I hope happens to Miami (Da U)...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call)
I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
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This is what I hope happens to Miami (Da U)...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call)
I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
lol
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btw, if I ever win a $300+ million lottery I will become ksu's version of Shapiro, mark my words.
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This is what I hope happens to Miami (Da U)...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call)
I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
Thank you I will frame this post and place it on my mantle. :users:
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Someone teach that bear how to eat box.
(holy sh*t lmao)
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This is what I hope happens to Miami (Da U)...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call)
I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
Thank you I will frame this post and place it on my mantle. :users:
:blush:
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Currie was just like, "pffft, wtf is this crap?" :ump:
He didn't stop there:
John_Currie John Currie
Dinner tonight with a 6 time Olympian... K-State rowing coach Pat Sweeney
:horrorsurprise:
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Jesus, even our rowing coaches are badasses. :kstategrad: Also, how much you want to be "Pat" is a lesbian?
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I am not gonna let this go. Josh Selby got suspended NINE GAMES for riding around in a car with a street agen...errrrr.....spiritual adviser. He sat ONE QUARTER OF THE ENTIRE SEASON...FOR RIDING AROUND IN A NICE CAR A COUPLE OF TIMES.
Yet the Brown brothers and their parents and their spiritual adviser/street agent/handler/hangeroner/slimeball gets a weekend on FREAKING SOUTH BEACH paid for and a $550 lunch paid for. (Must have been an expensive Reuben sandwhich) The only reason we know this is due to the CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS and HOTEL RECORDS in the NAME OF THE FREAKING BROWN BROTHERS and Brian Butler.
And yet, we get the Frank Drebin Memorial Nothing to See Here Treatment. Sorry Grandpa, aint gonna hack it this time.
I will not let this stand. I am going to continue to bang the drum on this issue.
They should be out 1/4 of the season so that should be 3 games. However, I didn't realize collegiate players were allowed to retain agents (which frankly I think should happen, but its against the rules right now). All I know is if this was a KU basketball player, the entire KC media would be demanding a pound of flesh from the NCAA violations.
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Someone teach that bear how to eat box.
(holy sh*t lmao)
:lol:
Get it? It's like your dead starting linebacker!
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:bartender:
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Someone teach that bear how to eat box.
(holy sh*t lmao)
:lol:
Get it? It's like your dead starting linebacker!
And it's like the bear was actually trying to perform... aw man I'm going to hell.
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Someone teach that bear how to eat box.
(holy sh*t lmao)
:lol:
Get it? It's like your dead starting linebacker!
And it's like the bear was actually trying to perform... aw man I'm going to hell.
I been told HELL is no place to be. If your going there then I know they were preaching the gospel. :ohno:
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I am not gonna let this go. Josh Selby got suspended NINE GAMES for riding around in a car with a street agen...errrrr.....spiritual adviser. He sat ONE QUARTER OF THE ENTIRE SEASON...FOR RIDING AROUND IN A NICE CAR A COUPLE OF TIMES.
Yet the Brown brothers and their parents and their spiritual adviser/street agent/handler/hangeroner/slimeball gets a weekend on FREAKING SOUTH BEACH paid for and a $550 lunch paid for. (Must have been an expensive Reuben sandwhich) The only reason we know this is due to the CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS and HOTEL RECORDS in the NAME OF THE FREAKING BROWN BROTHERS and Brian Butler.
And yet, we get the Frank Drebin Memorial Nothing to See Here Treatment. Sorry Grandpa, aint gonna hack it this time.
I will not let this stand. I am going to continue to bang the drum on this issue.
They should be out 1/4 of the season so that should be 3 games. However, I didn't realize collegiate players were allowed to retain agents (which frankly I think should happen, but its against the rules right now). All I know is if this was a KU basketball player, the entire KC media would be demanding a pound of flesh from the NCAA violations.
This is fantastic...ty WW for bringing this in here...feels good to be a wild wild cat :kstategrad:
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I have to assume those phoggites are being sarcastic. I mean, they have to be, right?
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I have to assume those phoggites are being sarcastic. I mean, they have to be, right?
I'm telling myself that they are doing a masterful job of it, so good i'm not even picking up on it.
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How hard is it for a guy to forge financial documents? For example, if you really wanted people to think you had spent money on certain things (you didn't) but you needed to be able to provide documentation? Not like IRS stuff, but like enough to piss off your ex-gf?
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I am not gonna let this go. Josh Selby got suspended NINE GAMES for riding around in a car with a street agen...errrrr.....spiritual adviser. He sat ONE QUARTER OF THE ENTIRE SEASON...FOR RIDING AROUND IN A NICE CAR A COUPLE OF TIMES.
Yet the Brown brothers and their parents and their spiritual adviser/street agent/handler/hangeroner/slimeball gets a weekend on FREAKING SOUTH BEACH paid for and a $550 lunch paid for. (Must have been an expensive Reuben sandwhich) The only reason we know this is due to the CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS and HOTEL RECORDS in the NAME OF THE FREAKING BROWN BROTHERS and Brian Butler.
And yet, we get the Frank Drebin Memorial Nothing to See Here Treatment. Sorry Grandpa, aint gonna hack it this time.
I will not let this stand. I am going to continue to bang the drum on this issue.
They should be out 1/4 of the season so that should be 3 games. However, I didn't realize collegiate players were allowed to retain agents (which frankly I think should happen, but its against the rules right now). All I know is if this was a KU basketball player, the entire KC media would be demanding a pound of flesh from the NCAA violations.
This post is truly fantastic. crap, I hope he holds on to it until the day he dies.
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I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
I nominate this for the word.
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I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
I nominate this for the word.
done
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:thumbs:
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Not KU bball fans? Are you kidding me?
I don't want the Browns suspended. I want my GD basketball season back with Selby not suspended. Who knows what happens if he is allowed practice and play with the team rather than sit out 9 games.
I will never understand how a kid can take benefits will being a collegiate athlete doesn't sit (Marve was cleared too I guess), but a kid who takes cash and gets rides to AAU games has to sit. This makes absolutely NO SENSE.
The same thing applies to this situation. Selby is an all American going to one of the best programs in the country. His clearance and story are national news. Of course the NCAA is going to take forever and be tough with Kansas. It has to send that image to the media and to other teams. On the other hand you have 2 worthless recruits going to a below average football program that has no national relevance whatsoever. Do you think the NCAA really cares about the brown brothers? Does anyone in the country really care other than people who dislike ksu? No, they don't. The NCAA probably realizes that it would be a waste of resources to send people out for the purpose of finding two irrelevant people guilty of getting dinner and a lap dance. And they are correct, just like you would think it's a waste of resources if I accidently shot myself in the leg at a restaurant and the police sent 6 cop cars and spent days making sure they had the facts right.
This isn't an equal case. One person received money since he was a little kid from a man who knew his mother since grade school. He had no association to KU and was the closest thing Josh had to a father. He did not take Selby around the country and meet up with ponzi schemers who wined and dined him, took him to strip clubs, etc all with booster money. This case is far more severe than Selby's, even though the brothers may not have been aware of the obvious violations. By associating with Butler (who should also be at fault) and accepting gifts from a well-known booster, some action must be taken in accordance with NCAA rules.
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Not KU bball fans? Are you kidding me?
I don't want the Browns suspended. I want my GD basketball season back with Selby not suspended. Who knows what happens if he is allowed practice and play with the team rather than sit out 9 games.
I will never understand how a kid can take benefits will being a collegiate athlete doesn't sit (Marve was cleared too I guess), but a kid who takes cash and gets rides to AAU games has to sit. This makes absolutely NO SENSE.
The same thing applies to this situation. Selby is an all American going to one of the best programs in the country. His clearance and story are national news. Of course the NCAA is going to take forever and be tough with Kansas. It has to send that image to the media and to other teams. On the other hand you have 2 worthless recruits going to a below average football program that has no national relevance whatsoever. Do you think the NCAA really cares about the brown brothers? Does anyone in the country really care other than people who dislike ksu? No, they don't. The NCAA probably realizes that it would be a waste of resources to send people out for the purpose of finding two irrelevant people guilty of getting dinner and a lap dance. And they are correct, just like you would think it's a waste of resources if I accidently shot myself in the leg at a restaurant and the police sent 6 cop cars and spent days making sure they had the facts right.
This isn't an equal case. One person received money since he was a little kid from a man who knew his mother since grade school. He had no association to KU and was the closest thing Josh had to a father. He did not take Selby around the country and meet up with ponzi schemers who wined and dined him, took him to strip clubs, etc all with booster money. This case is far more severe than Selby's, even though the brothers may not have been aware of the obvious violations. By associating with Butler (who should also be at fault) and accepting gifts from a well-known booster, some action must be taken in accordance with NCAA rules.
:kstategrad:
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The same thing applies to this situation. Selby is an all American going to one of the best programs in the country. His clearance and story are national news. Of course the NCAA is going to take forever and be tough with Kansas. It has to send that image to the media and to other teams. On the other hand you have 2 worthless recruits going to a below average football program that has no national relevance whatsoever. Do you think the NCAA really cares about the brown brothers? Does anyone in the country really care other than people who dislike ksu? No, they don't. The NCAA probably realizes that it would be a waste of resources to send people out for the purpose of finding two irrelevant people guilty of getting dinner and a lap dance. And they are correct, just like you would think it's a waste of resources if I accidently shot myself in the leg at a restaurant and the police sent 6 cop cars and spent days making sure they had the facts right.
:opcat:
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I don't even think this is the right thread for the last few posts.
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Yes, wrong thread. Mods plz move.
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holy crap. :facepalm: on my part. wtf.
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thats ok ww, this site is a shithole anyway.
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thats ok ww, this site is a craphole anyway.
Is this post related to your mood at this point in time?
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Not that I think it's a bad thing overall, because I wish K-State got down in the swamp water more. But no doubt ku basketball's reputation proceeds itself, they're tied for the most times on probation of all D1 basketball programs. So, the NCAA is going to know ku is up to no good every time they have to get involved.
Plus, we just know how to handle the NCAA better . . . :kstategrad:
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I am not gonna let this go. Josh Selby got suspended NINE GAMES for riding around in a car with a street agen...errrrr.....spiritual adviser. He sat ONE QUARTER OF THE ENTIRE SEASON...FOR RIDING AROUND IN A NICE CAR A COUPLE OF TIMES.
Yet the Brown brothers and their parents and their spiritual adviser/street agent/handler/hangeroner/slimeball gets a weekend on FREAKING SOUTH BEACH paid for and a $550 lunch paid for. (Must have been an expensive Reuben sandwhich) The only reason we know this is due to the CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS and HOTEL RECORDS in the NAME OF THE FREAKING BROWN BROTHERS and Brian Butler.
And yet, we get the Frank Drebin Memorial Nothing to See Here Treatment. Sorry Grandpa, aint gonna hack it this time.
I will not let this stand. I am going to continue to bang the drum on this issue.
They should be out 1/4 of the season so that should be 3 games. However, I didn't realize collegiate players were allowed to retain agents (which frankly I think should happen, but its against the rules right now). All I know is if this was a KU basketball player, the entire KC media would be demanding a pound of flesh from the NCAA violations.
Only a broke ass KU hayseed would think they are eating Ruebens at S&W's. Keep banging the drum, small time Lawrenctucky hicks.
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Only a broke ass KU hayseed would think they are eating Ruebens at S&W's. Keep banging the drum, small time Lawrenctucky hicks.
the steak Wollensky :lick:
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thats ok ww, this site is a craphole anyway.
Is this post related to your mood at this point in time?
I don't let emotions get in the way of bbsing. Just speaking the truth.
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If I were Josh Selby's handlers I would be contacting attorneys regarding my suspension. Shouldn't be too difficult to prove that he was treated unfairly by the NCAA when there appears to be proof that the Brown family and their "agent" received improper benefits. Their "agent" even admits to the benefits.
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If I were Josh Selby's handlers I would be contacting attorneys regarding my suspension. Shouldn't be too difficult to prove that he was treated unfairly by the NCAA when there appears to be proof that the Brown family and their "agent" received improper benefits. Their "agent" even admits to the benefits.
:goodbyecruelworld:
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I'm not a Miami fan, but sir you are a despicable person. This is a family board... somewhat demented, but with scruples. :shakesfist:
I nominate this for the word.
done
:blush:
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:lol: ahh I hate Tim Tebow. This made me laugh.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6874535/tim-tebow-formerly-florida-gators-laughs-report-bounty-miami-hurricanes (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6874535/tim-tebow-formerly-florida-gators-laughs-report-bounty-miami-hurricanes)
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-miami-ncaainvestigation
Miami has determined that eight football players, including quarterback Jacory Harris, are believed to have committed NCAA violations by associating with booster Nevin Shapiro and have been declared ineligible, said a person with knowledge of the process.
:zzz:
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-miami-ncaainvestigation
Miami has determined that eight football players, including quarterback Jacory Harris, are believed to have committed NCAA violations by associating with booster Nevin Shapiro and have been declared ineligible, said a person with knowledge of the process.
:zzz:
for some weird reason i've always loved jacory harris. don't ask me to explain why.
that being said, this is a major blow for the ksu cats. i was hoping sean could mush cosh all the way back to the locker room while he trotted out our hands team on every possession.
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Meh, was hoping for more
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/08/30/miami-eligibility-ruling.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp
CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) -- Quarterback Jacory Harris and 11 other Miami players who accepted extra benefits from former booster Nevin Shapiro will be allowed by the NCAA to play again, four of them without missing any games.
The harshest penalties handed down Tuesday were reserved for those who took gifts from Shapiro while being recruited. Defensive lineman Olivier Vernon will sit out six games, while Ray Ray Armstrong - considered among the nation's top safeties - and tight end Dyron Dye will miss four games apiece. They are three of eight players, including Harris, who must sit out games and repay benefits before they can be reinstated.
Miami opens its season at Maryland on Monday night.
"It's nice to have it out there now," Miami center Tyler Horn told The Associated Press Tuesday night.
MANDEL: Ominous start to Miami investigation
"There's no suspense in the air. We know what we have. We know what we're taking to Maryland. We have a lot of very talented players that we're taking to Maryland, and we're going up there to do our best. I wasn't too worried about it. I knew things would take care of themselves."
The Hurricanes still might face many more sanctions as the NCAA's investigation into Miami's compliance practices continues. And with Tuesday's ruling, the school has joined a growing list of schools with major football programs to be investigated by the NCAA for rule-breaking in the past 18 months. Others include Southern California, Ohio State, Auburn, Oregon, Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and LSU.
"Our members have continually stressed that involvement of third parties during recruitment will not be tolerated," NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs Kevin Lennon said.
Harris, Sean Spence, Travis Benjamin, Marcus Forston and Adewale Ojomo - all of whom were likely starters - must sit out one game and make restitution for accepting benefits after enrolling at the school. Four other players must repay small amounts, all under $100, but will not miss any games.
"They understand that their actions demand consequences," Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst said.
A 13th player, Marcus Robinson, was vindicated of wrongdoing.
As Miami coach Al Golden arrived at a fan gathering Tuesday night, he was greeted by dozens chanting his last name. Golden acknowledged them with a wave.
"I think there will be a sense of relief now," Golden said.
The NCAA's ruling means Stephen Morris - who led Miami past the Terrapins last season - will be at quarterback for the Hurricanes to start the season. Harris, Spence, Benjamin, Forston and Ojomo all will be eligible to play when Miami hosts Ohio State on Sept. 17.
"They'll still be motivating us," said Joel Figueroa, named Miami's left tackle earlier Tuesday. "We're going to welcome them back with open arms, and we know they'll be ready to perform when the time comes."
The NCAA said Vernon must sit six games and repay more than $1,200 because as a recruit he accepted things such as access to Shapiro's suite at a Miami home game, drinks and cover charges at two different nightclubs. Shapiro, who told Yahoo Sports for a story published Aug. 16 that he provided benefits to 72 Miami players and recruits over an eight-year span, has even said that he made a $1,000 donation to Vernon's high school booster club.
Armstrong must repay $788, the believed worth of his extra benefits, while Dye will pay back $738.
"The student-athletes involved have acknowledged receiving improper benefits and will now be responsible for restitution," Eichorst said.
Forston, the NCAA said, received more than $400 in things such as "athletic equipment, meals, nightclub cover charges and entertainment at a gentleman's club." Spence received about $275 in benefits, Ojomo $240, Benjamin more than $150 and Harris more than $140.
Brandon McGee, JoJo Nicholas, Micanor Regis and Vaughn Telemaque all must pay less than $100 for various impermissible benefits.
Separately, Golden said senior wide receiver Aldarius Johnson - who was also implicated by Shapiro, but not named in Tuesday's NCAA statement - has been suspended indefinitely for a violation of team rules.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/08/30/miami-eligibility-ruling.ap/index.html#ixzz1WZ3EdKT7
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confidence falling
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losing Ray Ray Armstrong is a big help, would've been nice had Spence gotten the same.
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I hope Artie knocks Harris out the first series or he will RG3 us.
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He is going to RGIII us. Confidence level right now: :frown:
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:lol:
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:sdeek:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7261664/miami-hurricanes-forgo-bowl-game-due-ncaa-probe (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7261664/miami-hurricanes-forgo-bowl-game-due-ncaa-probe)
Miami won't play in a bowl game
Associated Press
CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Miami is not going to a bowl this season, self-imposing a ban that school officials say was "necessary" in response to an ongoing NCAA investigation into the university's compliance practices.
Players were informed Sunday that Friday's game against Boston College will be the last this season, even though the Hurricanes have enough wins to qualify for a postseason appearance. By self-imposing a ban, Miami is trying to lessen the impact of whatever sanctions the NCAA hands down once its investigation ends.
"I'm clearly disappointed," said Miami coach Al Golden, who university officials said was not involved in the choice to go forward with the ban. "I believe it's the right decision and I'm 100 percent behind the decision. ... We're one step closer to putting these issues behind us."
Considering the allegations that have been levied against Miami, the school didn't have much choice but to issue a preemptive strike for a punishment that likely would have happened anyway, writes Heather Dinich. Blog
Golden said athletic director Shawn Eichorst and university president Donna Shalala made the decision, although a statement from the university said it was done through consultation with "university leaders, athletic administrators and outside counsel." The NCAA and the Atlantic Coast Conference were informed.
"It is a necessary step for our university," read Miami's statement.
Miami is not self-imposing any other penalties, including a reduction in scholarships, at this time. Golden said he is not "privy to" any information that Shalala and Eichorst used during the process of trying to decide whether or not going to a bowl would be a wise move.
"Based on what I know, which is very little, I'm very positive about the direction we're going in," Golden said.
When players were told of the decision, they took the news rather hard, Golden said. Miami became bowl eligible on Saturday, beating South Florida 6-3 for its sixth win of the season, and afterward players like quarterback Jacory Harris and center Tyler Horn both spoke about how excited they were to have a chance to reach a bowl.
"I'm a senior and that extends my season 30 days more. It's a sigh of relief," Horn said Saturday.
A day later, that relief was gone.
Miami still may receive a bowl payout from the ACC, which pools revenue from postseason games and distributes to all 12 conference members whether they play in a bowl or not. The ACC has eight bowl contracts it hopes to fill, and Miami almost certainly would have been one of the league's postseason teams.
The university was first rocked in August by allegations made by former booster Nevin Shapiro, who told Yahoo Sports that he gave 72 Miami football players and recruits so-called "extra benefits" like money, cars, yacht rides, nightclub and strip-club access and even prostitutes from 2002 through 2010. Earlier this season, 12 Miami players were sanctioned by the NCAA for dealings with Shapiro, with penalties ranging from small restitution in four cases, a one-game ban for five others and bans of four to six games for three more.
Golden said Sunday that the NCAA moving so swiftly to reinstate the eligibility of those players -- plus one other, who was not sanctioned in any way -- back in August was a good sign that "we are headed in a positive direction."
Shapiro is serving a 20-year prison sentence for masterminding a Ponzi scheme. His attorney, Maria Elena Perez, told The Associated Press on Sunday that Miami's move was no surprise.
"I think it's a smart pre-emptive move," Perez said. "It sets a good example for the kids, and it's probably a smart thing that they did that."
Perez said she has been in contact with the NCAA throughout its Miami investigation, adding she was told the probe has been slowed by the scandal at Penn State -- Golden's alma mater -- in recent weeks.
"And in my view, that one is more significant," Perez said.
The decision means many members of the school's heralded signing class of 2008, including Harris and linebacker Sean Spence, will leave the program without a postseason victory.
It may also add to speculation that Golden, who has said he was unaware of the looming scandal when he was hired by Miami last December, may look to leave the Hurricanes after this season.
"I don't have any decisions to make," Golden said. "I'm just coaching the Miami Hurricanes and getting the team ready to go against Boston College and moving the program forward, as I've said a million times. We really enjoy living here, my family and I. I know just from speaking with the staff, they're enjoying it. And we have a great group of young kids."
Miami student body president Brandon Mitchell told the AP that the move is disappointing, but understandable.
"Obviously the team, students, and fans are disappointed -- myself included," Mitchell said. "But it's the best step for the university moving forward. The students will always support the team, bowl game or no bowl game."
Golden said he plans on adding about 30 recruits before next season.
He met with Miami's seniors after Eichorst addressed the team Sunday and emerged from that meeting convinced the Hurricanes will be ready for Friday's finale.
"Anybody would be disappointed and saddened," Golden said. "But I really think that our seniors are going to take the approach that they can take this game, but they're not going to take our spirit, they're not going to take our unity and they're not going to take our toughness. I think our guys are going to look at this as an opportunity to show the country our unity, our character and how much we've changed."
Golden has got to be out of there.
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No reason for him to leave. It was either going to happen like this, or the NCAA would have brought the hammer down. Smart move by Miami, really.
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while that's true, he's got to be pissed, both because he didn't know what he was walking into, and because of how little pull he has.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1820323-miami-hurricanes-sanctions-by-ncaa-reportedly-revealed?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t2 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1820323-miami-hurricanes-sanctions-by-ncaa-reportedly-revealed?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t2)
The NCAA announced that the University of Miami football team will be docked three scholarships in each of the next three seasons as punishment for past rules violations. No further bowl ban will be enforced on the school as part of the sanctions. The rulings conclude an investigation that has dragged on for two and a half years.
The former head men's basketball coach failed to meet his responsibilities as a head coach when he did not monitor the activities of his assistant coaches, and attempted to cover up the booster's threats to disclose incriminating information, according to the committee. Additionally, two assistant football coaches and one assistant men’s basketball coach did not follow NCAA ethical conduct rules.
The latter give MU the juice needed to fire Haith?