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Title: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 27, 2011, 08:20:14 PM
I asked these questions a while ago.  Nobody ever tried to answer them.  I am now more curious than ever.


Open questions to Booktard and other Neo-Socialists (i.e., Libs):

How does the raising tax rates help the economy?  Conversely, exactly how does lower tax rates hurt the economy (pls avoid inserting charts purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a shitty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)?

Do you understand that the Bush tax cuts, cut tax rates in all brackets?

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?

Do you think raising the highest marginal  tax rate will help those who don't pay taxes in that bracket, if so how?

Do you think the federal government can only spend what it takes in in revenues?

What Federal Govt. services does the "middle class" currently receive?  Which services would be added or improved if rates were raised?

What exactly does the Federal Govt do well?  What parts of the economy would you prefer under government control?

Obama and others have said small businesses are the "engine of job growth" in this country, why do you always complain about corporations not hiring people if all politicians acknowledge this is not the source of job growth?

Can you actually articulate your argument, or are you limited to the talking points repeated ad nauseum by Bookcat, edn, BMW, and to a lesser extent 06, and cire?

Do you have a point, or do you just hate people more successful than you

Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: 06wildcat on July 27, 2011, 11:41:06 PM
I asked these questions a while ago.  Nobody ever tried to answer them.  I am now more curious than ever.


Open questions to Booktard and other Neo-Socialists (i.e., Libs):

How does the raising tax rates help the economy?  Conversely, exactly how does lower tax rates hurt the economy (pls avoid inserting charts purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a shitty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)?

Do you understand that the Bush tax cuts, cut tax rates in all brackets?

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?

Do you think raising the highest marginal  tax rate will help those who don't pay taxes in that bracket, if so how?

Do you think the federal government can only spend what it takes in in revenues?

What Federal Govt. services does the "middle class" currently receive?  Which services would be added or improved if rates were raised?

What exactly does the Federal Govt do well?  What parts of the economy would you prefer under government control?

Obama and others have said small businesses are the "engine of job growth" in this country, why do you always complain about corporations not hiring people if all politicians acknowledge this is not the source of job growth?

Can you actually articulate your argument, or are you limited to the talking points repeated ad nauseum by Bookcat, edn, BMW, and to a lesser extent 06, and cire?

Do you have a point, or do you just hate people more successful than you


 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Testy Westy on July 28, 2011, 12:05:15 AM
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Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: hemmy on July 28, 2011, 07:53:43 AM
2. Did Jews really do WTC?
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: husserl on July 28, 2011, 01:16:24 PM
(pls avoid...purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a crapty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)

...

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?

Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: pike on July 28, 2011, 01:34:25 PM
2. Did Jews really do WTC?

No. The military industrial complex did.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: michigancat on July 28, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 28, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
the real world isn't a computer game, moron.

there is more to the economy than simply monetary efficiency.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 28, 2011, 07:33:26 PM

PATHETIC


It's not a trap you wieners, these are easy questions, some of them "yes" or "no".  I am just trying to understand your unsubstantiated talking points.  I really want to know if you actually believe them, have ever bother to verified their veracity, or if you're just a bunch of liars and/or fools. 

Without any answer, I guess we'll just have to chalk this up as another example of a bunch of anti-intellectual liberals that hate facts.  No surprises here.

 :zzz:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 29, 2011, 01:12:11 AM

PATHETIC


It's not a trap you wieners, these are easy questions, some of them "yes" or "no".  I am just trying to understand your unsubstantiated talking points.  I really want to know if you actually believe them, have ever bother to verified their veracity, or if you're just a bunch of liars and/or fools. 

Without any answer, I guess we'll just have to chalk this up as another example of a bunch of anti-intellectual liberals that hate facts.  No surprises here.

 :zzz:

What on earth? Did you not see my post?

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Do you have a point, or do you just hate people more successful than you

what an idiotic statement.  No one here likes you, and that's saying something considering this is a very tight community.

Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: michigancat on July 29, 2011, 06:45:58 AM

IT'S NOT A TRAP YOU WIENERS

Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: OK_Cat on July 29, 2011, 09:22:42 AM
r's, d's, tp's, they are all complete morons.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 29, 2011, 12:39:14 PM

PATHETIC


It's not a trap you wieners, these are easy questions, some of them "yes" or "no".  I am just trying to understand your unsubstantiated talking points.  I really want to know if you actually believe them, have ever bother to verified their veracity, or if you're just a bunch of liars and/or fools. 

Without any answer, I guess we'll just have to chalk this up as another example of a bunch of anti-intellectual liberals that hate facts.  No surprises here.

 :zzz:

What on earth? Did you not see my post?

Quote
Do you have a point, or do you just hate people more successful than you

what an idiotic statement.  No one here likes you, and that's saying something considering this is a very tight community.



Sorry, I still don't follow your video game analogy.  Perhaps some context to the "unanswered questions":  they came up in response to the wild and unsubstantiated talking points of the libs on this board as they apply to the fiscal and economic problems this country faces. 

Nice personal attack though.  PATHETIC
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 30, 2011, 10:32:42 AM
 :comeatme:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: ednksu on July 30, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
I didn't see me on the hit and run list my first read through!!!  :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: ednksu on July 30, 2011, 01:08:32 PM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?


http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

2003 eh?
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Dingo on July 30, 2011, 10:59:17 PM
Holy crap!  Questions we can't answer without exposing ourselves as uninformed drones who dream of suckling at the Obama teat!  How will we answer?  How will we answer?  Quick!  Feed those questions into the liberal computer ...  AH!  Here come the answers now:

1)  Make a stupid analogy that makes no sense.
2)  Make ad hominem attacks.
3)  Tell the questioner he is wrong without telling him why.
4)  Insert  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 31, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Holy crap!  Questions we can't answer without exposing ourselves as uninformed drones who dream of suckling at the Obama teat!  How will we answer?  How will we answer?  Quick!  Feed those questions into the liberal computer ...  AH!  Here come the answers now:

1)  Make a stupid analogy that makes no sense.
2)  Make ad hominem attacks.
3)  Tell the questioner he is wrong without telling him why.
4)  Insert  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: ednksu on July 31, 2011, 04:40:09 PM
thats right just ignore evidence to the contrary. 

Thanks to for hijacking my party assholes.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 03, 2011, 06:15:09 PM
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Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 04, 2011, 08:10:11 PM
 :bang:
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: 0.42 on August 05, 2011, 03:43:37 AM
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Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 06, 2011, 03:32:31 PM
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Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Rams on August 06, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
(pls avoid...purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a crapty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)

...

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?


This pretty much sums up all right wing economic viewpoints.  They understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, yet they completely refuse to believe that it can apply to their theories.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2011, 04:19:26 PM
(pls avoid...purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a crapty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)

...

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?


This pretty much sums up all right wing economic viewpoints.  They understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, yet they completely refuse to believe that it can apply to their theories.

It's not a theory it's a fact.  Any jerkoff can look it up. 

I ask the question b/c the libs on this board frequently claim that the bush tax cuts caused/continue to cause the deficit.  Yet after those tax cuts, revenues rose, and continued to rise to all time highs. 

I shouldn't have to hold hands like this.  The dearth of intelligence on this board is deflating.  Pretty standard fair for the anti-intellectual left.

PATHETIC


Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Rams on August 07, 2011, 09:55:20 PM
(pls avoid...purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a crapty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)

...

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?


This pretty much sums up all right wing economic viewpoints.  They understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, yet they completely refuse to believe that it can apply to their theories.

It's not a theory it's a fact. 


Then prove it.

Eliminate all the other variables that could've caused the increase in federal tax revenues. For instance, how do you prove that the increase in revenue wasn't simply a result of the change in the course of the economic cycle from a period of recession to a period of rapid and substantial growth?
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2011, 10:09:15 PM
(pls avoid...purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a crapty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)

...

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?


This pretty much sums up all right wing economic viewpoints.  They understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, yet they completely refuse to believe that it can apply to their theories.

It's not a theory it's a fact. 


Then prove it.

Eliminate all the other variables that could've caused the increase in federal tax revenues. For instance, how do you prove that the increase in revenue wasn't simply a result of the change in the course of the economic cycle from a period of recession to a period of rapid and substantial growth?

Not trying to prove it caused the revenues to increase.  Simply stating that revenues increased after the cuts.  Which is a fact.

Libs seem to think revenues went into some tailspin after those cuts.  They also think those cuts were only for the rich.  Both of these statements are completely false.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Rams on August 08, 2011, 12:24:02 PM
(pls avoid...purporting a correlation without connection, I make a graph showing a direct correlation between a crapty economy and Butler in the Final 4, but that's obviously nonsense)

...

Do you know that after tax rates were reduced on the highest brackets (2003) that federal income tax revenues increased rapidly?


This pretty much sums up all right wing economic viewpoints.  They understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, yet they completely refuse to believe that it can apply to their theories.

It's not a theory it's a fact. 


Then prove it.

Eliminate all the other variables that could've caused the increase in federal tax revenues. For instance, how do you prove that the increase in revenue wasn't simply a result of the change in the course of the economic cycle from a period of recession to a period of rapid and substantial growth?

Not trying to prove it caused the revenues to increase.  Simply stating that revenues increased after the cuts.  Which is a fact.

Libs seem to think revenues went into some tailspin after those cuts.  They also think those cuts were only for the rich.  Both of these statements are completely false.
So what's the point of stating that revenues increased after the cuts if you're not insinuating some causal relationship?  It seems as if you did exactly what you told everyone else not to do.

And while it's true that the cuts applied to everyone, they disproportionately (and by a VERY substantial margin) favored the wealthy.
Title: Re: Unanswered Questions
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2011, 06:24:19 PM

So what's the point of stating that revenues increased after the cuts if you're not insinuating some causal relationship? 


Read the rough ridin' thread, Rams.  The point was certain posters on this thread said those cuts caused the deficit.  I wanted to know if they knew that revenues went up after the cuts.  That it.  Period.  Nothing else.  Nothing is insinuated.


And while it's true that the cuts applied to everyone, they disproportionately (and by a VERY substantial margin) favored the wealthy.

Don't ride my ass about "insinuating" something without providing proof, then make a ridiculous statement like this . . . without proof.   :facepalm: