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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: bigwillie20 on July 15, 2011, 12:14:47 PM
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http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/jul/15/commentary-ksu-13-kansas-1-really/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/jul/15/commentary-ksu-13-kansas-1-really/)
Competing with the Big 12’s Oklahoma and Texas schools in sports other than men’s basketball always will present a steep challenge for Kansas University.
Recruits tend to want to go to nearby schools. Oklahoma and especially Texas produce far more talented athletes than does Kansas.
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In some sports, such as baseball, softball and track and field, weather also works against KU. In some cases, athletic budgets and facilities favor others.
Call them excuses, but to an extent they just as easily could fall under the category of reasonable explanations that play a factor in the Jayhawks finishing dead-last in the all-sports standings.
Yet, it’s not difficult to find a counter to the argument geography plays the biggest part in Kansas’ failing to compete for any conference titles outside of men’s basketball. The excuse falls apart 75 miles to the west, 10 to the north.
Kansas State doesn’t have superior facilities to those of KU, does not have as sizeable a budget, has similar weather and is at an even greater geographic disadvantage because it’s not as close to Kansas City.
Despite those hurdles, the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year. In so doing, the ’Cats supplied their athletic director, John Currie, with a chance to boast, although he didn’t choose to do so in a tacky way.
In a letter to ’Catbackers dated June 1 and still posted on kstatesports.com, Currie lists the Wildcats’ athletic achievements the past year. The final one listed, as if an afterthought so as not to be accused of rubbing it in, reads: “A combined 13-1 record against the Jayhawks in head-to-head competition.”
Really? It didn’t sound right, but a check of the records shows KU did indeed go 1-13 in the rivalry that desperately needs a nickname better than “Sunflower Showdown.”
The loss that stung the most: Kansas State 59, Kansas 7, a Thursday night blowout, Oct. 14, 2010, in Memorial Stadium, during which the players on the home team looked as if they were running in cement shoes, affirming why coach Turner Gill has put such a premium on recruiting faster players.
The lone victory: Kansas 90, Kansas State 66, fueled by Thomas Robinson’s 17-point, nine-rebound tribute to all those who supported him through his heartache. The game was played two days after his mother’s funeral.
K-State avenged the loss on Valentine’s Day, 84-68, when Jacob Pullen juiced Bramlage Coliseum with 38 points.
Kansas State swept two games in women’s basketball, executed a three-game sweep in baseball and swept two apiece in volleyball, rowing and women’s tennis.
If a coach of a nonrevenue sport chooses to whine about either the local newspaper or the K-State sports website reporting the data, he or she better not do so within earshot of first-year KU AD Sheahon Zenger. He’s not going to want to hear it. He’s not into using slogans in an attempt to create false perceptions about the state of the athletic department (aside from the perennial powerhouse men’s basketball program). Denial’s not his game. He’s interested in winning, not in offering a shoulder to capture the tears of those too often losing.
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Kansas State doesn’t have superior facilities to those of KU, does not have as sizeable a budget, has similar weather and is at an even greater geographic disadvantage because it’s not as close to Kansas City.
Good to see that the writer could recognize that two towns an hour apart have similar weather. :facepalm:
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kusports comment section is always amazing. love those d00ds.
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On top of that KU and KU fans obviously put 99% of their sports pride in to basketball (it might be 60-40 of 50-50 between bball and football if our football program could lift its ass off the ground) so to us we beat K-State overall (as we beat them by 8 more points than they beat us). So from a KU sports fans perspective we have it on them 99 to 1.
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"SZ needs to start cracking the whip"
It really is true about that fanbase. :opcat:
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On top of that KU and KU fans obviously put 99% of their sports pride in to basketball (it might be 60-40 of 50-50 between bball and football if our football program could lift its ass off the ground) so to us we beat K-State overall (as we beat them by 8 more points than they beat us). So from a KU sports fans perspective we have it on them 99 to 1.
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omg :lol:
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jake is just too cool.
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Is being about 90 minutes closer to the KC metro area really that great of a geographical advantage. It's not like we're talking Paris.
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Is being about 90 minutes closer to the KC metro area really that great of a geographical advantage. It's not like we're talking Paris.
I'm not sure, but the weather is pretty similar.
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kusports comment section is always amazing. love those d00ds.
The old townie pride is amazing. Love it.
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Keegan is a closet K-State fan who is best friends with Tim "It's Patterson!" Fitzgerald. Move along now.
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Is being about 90 minutes closer to the KC metro area really that great of a geographical advantage. It's not like we're talking Paris.
I'm pretty sure that Kansas City is sometimes referred to as "The Paris of the Plains." So it would be like we are talking about Paris.
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Keegan is a closet K-State fan who is best friends with Tim "It's Patterson!" Fitzgerald. Move along now.
59-7 and we put in the subs in the 3rd quarter. Bill could have made it much worse.
Mangino's players still on the roster. Dismantled....
then Lew blasts away in a jetpack with fistfulls of cash.
We told you.
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
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not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
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2-1 in the sports normal people care about. Just dominant.
:love:
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
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not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
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Keegan is a closet K-State fan who is best friends with Tim "It's Patterson!" Fitzgerald. Move along now.
Oh man the 5-0 is gonna take both of 'em down.
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It would require more time to research than I have but this could very well be the most lopsided result between state schools in the history of the NCAA.
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2-1 in the sports normal people care about. Just dominant.
:love:
Face sitting on ku was fun, wasn't it
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It would require more time to research than I have but this could very well be the most lopsided result between state schools in the history of the NCAA.
Just imagine going 4-0 in sports that matter.
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It would require more time to research than I have but this could very well be the most lopsided result between state schools in the history of the NCAA.
Kansas State vs. Kansas has basically turned into Ohio State vs. Ohio.
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It would require more time to research than I have but this could very well be the most lopsided result between state schools in the history of the NCAA.
Kansas State vs. Kansas has basically turned into Ohio State vs. Ohio.
More like UNC vs. Wake Forest.
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It would require more time to research than I have but this could very well be the most lopsided result between state schools in the history of the NCAA.
Kansas State vs. Kansas has basically turned into Ohio State vs. Ohio.
More like UNC vs. Wake Forest.
Obsessing over UNC, what a shocker.
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Keegan is a closet K-State fan who is best friends with Tim "It's Patterson!" Fitzgerald. Move along now.
13-1. Shut the f*ck up already.
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greatest year ever
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lol great stuff.
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It must suck to suck, :lol:
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greatest year ever
Priceless.
:love: :love: :love:
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I can't begin to imagine the garbage that would be spewed, if they were half decent at more than one thing. :blah:
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I can't begin to imagine the garbage that would be spewed, if they were half decent at more than one thing. :blah:
It's called retrograde amnesia.
:cheers:
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just got back from that tattoo parlor with my brand new 13-1 tat, looks great
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13-1 t-shirt design competition, anyone?
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
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not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
Yeah, no squawk ever mentions JHR's domination of the Morris twins.
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It's killing them.
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
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not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
Yeah, no squawk ever mentions JHR's domination of the Morris twins.
Dunking on bitches confirmed.
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
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not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
Yeah, no squawk ever mentions JHR's domination of the Morris twins.
Dunking on bitches confirmed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE)
Getting teabagged by Elijah Johnson: confirmed.
:lol:
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Goodness, Ben isn't taking this well.
:kstategrad:
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
July 15, 2011 at 1:24 p.m. ( permalink |
reply | suggest removal | )
.collapse jayhawkcole (anonymous) replies…
not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
Yeah, no squawk ever mentions JHR's domination of the Morris twins.
Dunking on bitches confirmed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE)
Getting teabagged by Elijah Johnson: confirmed.
:lol:
Elijah Johnson: 5 pts, 1 reb, 1 TO, 3 PFs, and 1 loss
:lol: Yup, hoopin' it up!!
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
July 15, 2011 at 1:24 p.m. ( permalink |
reply | suggest removal | )
.collapse jayhawkcole (anonymous) replies…
not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
Yeah, no squawk ever mentions JHR's domination of the Morris twins.
Dunking on bitches confirmed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE)
Getting teabagged by Elijah Johnson: confirmed.
:lol:
Elijah Johnson: 5 pts, 1 reb, 1 TO, 3 PFs, and 1 loss
:lol: Yup, hoopin' it up!!
You forgot the technical and the two points he gave right back after said Tea Bag
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God, Beems is what we would've sounded like if we kept bragging up Maybank's performance after getting beat, but somehow even less valid
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jesus, beems. have you learned nothing?
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just got back from that tattoo parlor with my brand new 13-1 tat, looks great
God, copycatclams. I got mine (thigh) in June.
Gimme a break.
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Suck it Lawlrence, you wish you could but you cant....
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This Oregon Squawk is really just being what I like to call a dumbass.
I say now that we have become the boss of Kansas, it is only a matter of time until we become the bosses of the entire Big 12!!!!!!
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This Oregon Squawk is really just being what I like to call a dumbass.
I say now that we have become the boss of Kansas, it is only a matter of time until we become the bosses of the entire Big 12!!!!!!
Why stop there? Lets take control of the whole planet!
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The kid has been a veritable Mt. Vesuvius of Butthurt as of late.
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The longest threads in kutuckville, the biggest comments sections at kusports.com are always about . . . K-State.
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lol wut
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The longest threads in kutuckville, the biggest comments sections at kusports.com are always about . . . K-State.
Killing. Them.
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Whenever I read an OregonHawk post, this is the guy I picture sitting in front of his computer, bad teeth and all.
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Whenever I read an OregonHawk post, this is the guy I picture sitting in front of his computer, bad teeth and all.
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Whenever you post, I picture your sig sitting in front of the computer, bad teeth and all.
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Whenever I read an OregonHawk post, this is the guy I picture sitting in front of his computer, bad teeth and all.
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Whenever you post, I picture your sig sitting in front of the computer, bad teeth and all.
Touche. I intend on updating it soon.
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jayhawkcole (anonymous) says…
"the Wildcats dominated the Jayhawks on the fields and courts of competition during the 2010-2011 school year."
i deffinately remember a 90-66 Beatdown of K-state at Allen last year, we lost the second time we played them, but im sorry i dont consider that a beatdown, especially considering we made it farther in the Big 12 tourney (won it), and made it father in the NCAA tourney...so KEEGAN, im sorry but i MUST disagree with you on this 'beatdown' thing.
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not to mention that when we lost the second time aound in basketball Pullen went OFF for (career high?) 38 points, and couldnt miss.
:lol:
Love when they pull out this last talking point.
Yeah, no squawk ever mentions JHR's domination of the Morris twins.
Dunking on bitches confirmed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4YAfTMDrE)
Getting teabagged by Elijah Johnson: confirmed.
:lol:
JHR: 10 pts. 5-7 fg 5 reb.
Mongoloid Twins: 16 pts 5-11 fg. 3 reb.
pfffftttttt...
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Am I the only one who finds it funny it that it took ku fans this long to do the math?
:dunno:
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Suck it Lawlrence, you wish you could but you cant....
that's pretty great. i think we may have been discussing getting them that night in vegas after we finished that magnum of dom p with those hookers. (don't really remember). anyways, what font did you go with? i got mine in roman numerals, trajan font.
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'grats guys.
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'grats guys.
Thanks, friend.