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Title: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 13, 2011, 05:00:19 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/07/11/leach.book.excerpt/index.html

This guy is hard not to love.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 13, 2011, 05:53:44 PM
he is so dreamy
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: ew2x4 on July 13, 2011, 05:57:50 PM
I want him as our coach so badly.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 13, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
Would he take the job if offered?
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: jtksu on July 13, 2011, 09:42:09 PM
Doubt it but we can still dream.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Katpappy on July 13, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
Doubt it but we can still dream.
Thing is he's got court issues to reslove before any program will offer.  I just hope JC sees the opportunity before it gets away.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: KSUBrian on July 13, 2011, 10:33:39 PM
Mike Leach and his pretentious, cocky, "swing your sword" attitude ======>  :barf:  I swear the dude has little penis syndrome.  Was he married to the Cali chick?
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: deputy dawg on July 14, 2011, 09:00:08 AM

Mike Leach :love:

Of course, he'll get hired by a smart AD, probably at a larger program.  But I agree, we can dream.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 14, 2011, 09:51:21 AM
I can see someone grabbing him as OC with a side of HCIW.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dingo on July 14, 2011, 04:35:08 PM
Mike Leach, I'm not gay or anything but ...
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 14, 2011, 04:54:24 PM
"My biggest regret was not cutting Adam James. I kept hoping he'd develop a work ethic."

 :love:

Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: HeinBallz on July 14, 2011, 05:06:56 PM
Only downfall, is I imagine ESPN would railroad whatever school he ends up at.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 14, 2011, 05:33:27 PM
Only downfall, is I imagine ESPN would railroad whatever school he ends up at.

It's hard to railroad the #1 team in the nation.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Bookcat on July 14, 2011, 08:55:03 PM
I would let Mike Leach lock me in a dark closet for 24 hours if it meant he'd be our next HC.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: wes mantooth on July 14, 2011, 10:06:31 PM
I would let Mike Leach lock me in a dark closet for 24 hours if it meant he'd be our next HC.  :emawkid:

I'd let Mike Leach lock you in a dark closet and have his way with you for 48 hours if it meant he'd be our next HC.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 14, 2011, 10:17:59 PM
Only downfall, is I imagine ESPN would railroad whatever school he ends up at.

I think Craig James had better worry about his job after the way this thing shook out.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dingo on July 15, 2011, 08:22:43 AM
I would let Mike Leach lock me in a dark closet for 24 hours if it meant he'd be our next HC.  :emawkid:

I'd let Mike Leach lock you in a dark closet and have his way with you for 48 hours if it meant he'd be our next HC.

Like I said ... Mike Leach, I'm not gay or anything, but if you need incentive to come to K-State ...
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 10:24:21 AM
welp, pretty much everybody who has heard of the sport of football is melting down about the oscar Feldman stuff.  twitter is hilarious like that.  one person turns irate and then every other person in the entire world sees that he is pissed off immediately decides that, hey...yeah...I should be pissed off about this too!  RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: pike on July 15, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
welp, pretty much everybody who has heard of the sport of football is melting down about the oscar Feldman stuff.  twitter is hilarious like that.  one person turns irate and then every other person in the entire world sees that he is pissed off immediately decides that, hey...yeah...I should be pissed off about this too!  RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Well it's such a bull crap thing to do by ESPN. Injustices in this world should not be tolerated  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 10:52:14 AM
welp, pretty much everybody who has heard of the sport of football is melting down about the oscar Feldman stuff.  twitter is hilarious like that.  one person turns irate and then every other person in the entire world sees that he is pissed off immediately decides that, hey...yeah...I should be pissed off about this too!  RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Well it's such a bull crap thing to do by ESPN. Injustices in this world should not be tolerated  :shakesfist:

yeah, espn has looked incred. stupid throughout this ordeal.  but, on the other hand, people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: pike on July 15, 2011, 10:58:55 AM
welp, pretty much everybody who has heard of the sport of football is melting down about the oscar Feldman stuff.  twitter is hilarious like that.  one person turns irate and then every other person in the entire world sees that he is pissed off immediately decides that, hey...yeah...I should be pissed off about this too!  RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Well it's such a bull crap thing to do by ESPN. Injustices in this world should not be tolerated  :shakesfist:

yeah, espn has looked incred. stupid throughout this ordeal.  but, on the other hand, people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 

Will agree with that. All the sports writers are livid about it, and now everyone has just followed suit.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: pike on July 15, 2011, 11:10:27 AM
MattJonesAAU Matt Jones
While I support #FreeBruce movement, I wish journalists were this outraged for people screwed by employers outside of field of journalism


So yeah, what we said.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 11:22:06 AM
He didn't even get fired.  Plus, he helped write a book that disparaged his employer.  Anyone else in the world would have been fired.  It's pretty much bullshit.  I'm team #fuckbruce.  That's not to say ESPN hasn't handled this thing horribly because they have.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: pike on July 15, 2011, 11:30:46 AM
IDK, i mean the dude helped write a book that exposes a total FP, TC, etc....who also happens to be an ESPN analyst. Basically like outing a squawk i suppose.

Maybe ESPN shouldn't hire such douche bags like the Craig James dude. Now whenever someone hears him calling their game they're just gonna think "Oh, this is the bad person that whined and cried to get his lousy son on the football team".

And you're right they have handled this awfully. People are cancelling ESPN insider subscriptions left and right. No thanks to Fatlock.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 11:35:06 AM
IDK, i mean the dude helped write a book that exposes a total FP, TC, etc....who also happens to be an ESPN analyst. Basically like outing a squawk i suppose.

Maybe ESPN shouldn't hire such douche bags like the Craig James dude. Now whenever someone hears him calling their game they're just gonna think "Oh, this is the bad person that whined and cried to get his lousy son on the football team".

And you're right they have handled this awfully. People are cancelling ESPN insider subscriptions left and right. No thanks to Fatlock.

yeah, I'm not sticking up for dumbass craig james either.  actually, I'm sticking up for nobody.  I'm just saying that you can't get all upset when an employer suspends an employee because they published a book talking crap about said employer and fellow employees.  journalists seem to believe they are of a privliged class that should be able to get away with crap like this.  It's the same as when they all got butthurt because Frank was mean to Kellis.  
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 11:39:09 AM
guess what.....if I talk crap about a fellow employee and my employer (without even publishing a book, just small talk) I'm getting my ass fired.  not suspended, fired.  guess what else....I bet I don't get all my peers to get raging butthurt about it and hashtag that crap like there's no tommorrow. 
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
I shouldn't put journalists all into one bucket here either.  Most of the local guys are really good at what they do and don't fall into this class.  hell, most of the national guys probably don't either.  It's just the raging butt hurt hashtag police minority.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2011, 11:44:33 AM
Journalists protect their own. Many of them still haven't forgiven Gundy for "I'm a man! I'm 40!"
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: koppe22 on July 15, 2011, 11:51:23 AM
guess what.....if I talk crap about a fellow employee and my employer (without even publishing a book, just small talk) I'm getting my ass fired.  not suspended, fired.  guess what else....I bet I don't get all my peers to get raging butthurt about it and hashtag that crap like there's no tommorrow. 

 :runaway:
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 15, 2011, 12:07:19 PM
guess what.....if I talk crap about a fellow employee and my employer (without even publishing a book, just small talk) I'm getting my ass fired.  not suspended, fired.  guess what else....I bet I don't get all my peers to get raging butthurt about it and hashtag that crap like there's no tommorrow. 

but what if your employer gave you permission to talk crap on fellow employee?? then when you did, they put you in the cube next to fat Janis, and suspended you? I thought that was the sticking point, that he got permission to do the book, then ESPN did this.

I dunno, maybe sportbybrooks was wrong on that part.

oh, and i'm against journalists being butthurt.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 15, 2011, 12:08:44 PM
Um, aren't journalists supposed to be unbiased, objective professionals?
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: pike on July 15, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
Um, aren't journalists supposed to be unbiased, objective professionals?

Journalistic integrity went out the window decades ago.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 12:18:13 PM
guess what.....if I talk crap about a fellow employee and my employer (without even publishing a book, just small talk) I'm getting my ass fired.  not suspended, fired.  guess what else....I bet I don't get all my peers to get raging butthurt about it and hashtag that crap like there's no tommorrow.  

but what if your employer gave you permission to talk crap on fellow employee?? then when you did, they put you in the cube next to fat Janis, and suspended you? I thought that was the sticking point, that he got permission to do the book, then ESPN did this.

I dunno, maybe sportbybrooks was wrong on that part.

oh, and i'm against journalists being butthurt.

maybe, I don't know.  But, if my employer gave me permission to write a book with some d00d and then, in that book, I wrote that my employer sucked and had a hand in forcing this d00d out of his job and one of my fellow employees was pretty much a doucher I think my employer would look at it differently at that point.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 15, 2011, 12:36:54 PM
guess what.....if I talk crap about a fellow employee and my employer (without even publishing a book, just small talk) I'm getting my ass fired.  not suspended, fired.  guess what else....I bet I don't get all my peers to get raging butthurt about it and hashtag that crap like there's no tommorrow. 

but what if your employer gave you permission to talk crap on fellow employee?? then when you did, they put you in the cube next to fat Janis, and suspended you? I thought that was the sticking point, that he got permission to do the book, then ESPN did this.

I dunno, maybe sportbybrooks was wrong on that part.

oh, and i'm against journalists being butthurt.

maybe, I don't know.  But, if my employer gave me permission to write a book with some d00d and then, in that book, I wrote that my employer sucked and had a hand in forcing this d00d out of his job and one of my fellow employees was pretty much a doucher I think my employer would look at it differently at that point.

probably, but your employer should realize what the context would be. Everyone comes out stupid in this.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: wetwillie on July 15, 2011, 01:00:44 PM
If oscar took the proper channels in reporting content and context to his superiors at ESPN prior to the release of the excerpts then I think he is getting mumped on the deal.  By most accounts it would appear he has taken extra effort to not promote himself via any of the channels available to him for personal gain.  If he went behind their back and said crap about CJ or ESPN that he was specifically told not too then eff him.  If anything he is guilty of being naive and thinking that his involvement in the book would ever be looked upon with approval by his employer.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: hemmy on July 15, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
Just fire Craig James already and everyone will be happy.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 01:26:18 PM
Just fire Craig James already and everyone will be happy.

if announcers had a weird little cliq like journalists they would start a twitter hashtag meltdown demanding heads roll
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: KITNfury on July 15, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Just fire Craig James already and everyone will be happy.

if announcers had a weird little cliq like journalists they would start a twitter hashtag meltdown demanding heads roll
And I would get quite the lulz for it.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: 06wildcat on July 15, 2011, 02:42:55 PM

yeah, I'm not sticking up for dumbass craig james either.  actually, I'm sticking up for nobody.  I'm just saying that you can't get all upset when an employer suspends an employee because they published a book talking crap about said employer and fellow employees.  journalists seem to believe they are of a privliged class that should be able to get away with crap like this.  It's the same as when they all got butthurt because Frank was mean to Kellis.  

I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.

anyone's employer could give them permission to write a book but if they write in the book that their employer is shady and fellow employees are douchebags that is a completely different deal.  why can nobody else connect these dots?  espn didn't give him permission to trash espn and other espn employees.  they should have obviously seen that this was a possibility given who's book was being written but he should have obviously known to recuse himself from the project if that ended up being the case.  my employer gives me permission to go to lunch for as long as I like everyday but if I take my lunch and smear it all over the wall of our building writing the words "YOU rough ridin' SUCK" in tomato sauce I'll prolly get in some trouble. 
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: pike on July 15, 2011, 02:57:21 PM
I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.

anyone's employer could give them permission to write a book but if they write in the book that their employer is shady and fellow employees are douchebags that is a completely different deal.  why can nobody else connect these dots?  espn didn't give him permission to trash espn and other espn employees.  they should have obviously seen that this was a possibility given who's book was being written but he should have obviously known to recuse himself from the project if that ended up being the case.  my employer gives me permission to go to lunch for as long as I like everyday but if I take my lunch and smear it all over the wall of our building writing the words "YOU rough ridin' SUCK" in tomato sauce I'll prolly get in some trouble. 

I agree with what you're saying. It's all just one big crap storm for espn
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 15, 2011, 03:19:09 PM
so apparently ESPN said he was never suspended and he has resumed activities. wut
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 03:28:38 PM
so apparently ESPN said he was never suspended and he has resumed activities. wut

lol.  who was it that announced the suspension to begin with?
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: OK_Cat on July 15, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
so apparently ESPN said he was never suspended and he has resumed activities. wut

lol.  who was it that announced the suspension to begin with?

probably beems
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 15, 2011, 03:30:48 PM
sportsbybrooks?
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 15, 2011, 04:14:22 PM
I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.

anyone's employer could give them permission to write a book but if they write in the book that their employer is shady and fellow employees are douchebags that is a completely different deal.  why can nobody else connect these dots?  espn didn't give him permission to trash espn and other espn employees.  they should have obviously seen that this was a possibility given who's book was being written but he should have obviously known to recuse himself from the project if that ended up being the case.  my employer gives me permission to go to lunch for as long as I like everyday but if I take my lunch and smear it all over the wall of our building writing the words "YOU effING SUCK" in tomato sauce I'll prolly get in some trouble.  

I pictured this, then laughed pretty hard.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.

anyone's employer could give them permission to write a book but if they write in the book that their employer is shady and fellow employees are douchebags that is a completely different deal.  why can nobody else connect these dots?  espn didn't give him permission to trash espn and other espn employees.  they should have obviously seen that this was a possibility given who's book was being written but he should have obviously known to recuse himself from the project if that ended up being the case.  my employer gives me permission to go to lunch for as long as I like everyday but if I take my lunch and smear it all over the wall of our building writing the words "YOU effING SUCK" in tomato sauce I'll prolly get in some trouble.  

I pictured this, then laughed pretty hard.

turn off your swear filter and it's even better (or worse...padre)
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 16, 2011, 10:11:00 AM
prolly untrue grumblings among some journos on twitter that the suspension may have been fabricated to promote the book.  genius if true.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 16, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
leach is a genius.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Dingo on July 16, 2011, 02:52:22 PM
steve dave's rant is dreamy.  Hey, I lost my dream job for exercising my "freedom of speech" about the way the company was run.  Lesson learned.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: steve dave on July 16, 2011, 05:17:44 PM
It's, like, I think ESPN is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and they were dumbasses to suspend him because they should have known what was going to be in the book and they definitely should have known how the rest of the media types were going to react to it but I can't stand the rabble rousing butthurt hashtag freakos that can't believe one of their own got suspended for talking crap about his employer.  Nothing but good has come of it for oscar.

I mean, look at this butthurt.  LOOK AT IT!

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/espn-irrevocably-damaged-feldmans-livelihood-29790
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 18, 2011, 10:10:46 AM
I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.

anyone's employer could give them permission to write a book but if they write in the book that their employer is shady and fellow employees are douchebags that is a completely different deal.  why can nobody else connect these dots?  espn didn't give him permission to trash espn and other espn employees.  they should have obviously seen that this was a possibility given who's book was being written but he should have obviously known to recuse himself from the project if that ended up being the case.  my employer gives me permission to go to lunch for as long as I like everyday but if I take my lunch and smear it all over the wall of our building writing the words "YOU effING SUCK" in tomato sauce I'll prolly get in some trouble.  

I pictured this, then laughed pretty hard.

turn off your swear filter and it's even better (or worse...padre)

I think it's funnier with the filter.  :ck:

Remember the South Park episode when they said "crap" like 180 times?  It wasn't that funny.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: MadCat on July 18, 2011, 02:08:58 PM
I'm with you, except for the fact ESPN knew about the book long before it was a book. Actually they even gave permission for the writer to proceed with the book. That's why the butthurt is legitimate here.

anyone's employer could give them permission to write a book but if they write in the book that their employer is shady and fellow employees are douchebags that is a completely different deal.  why can nobody else connect these dots?  espn didn't give him permission to trash espn and other espn employees.  they should have obviously seen that this was a possibility given who's book was being written but he should have obviously known to recuse himself from the project if that ended up being the case.  my employer gives me permission to go to lunch for as long as I like everyday but if I take my lunch and smear it all over the wall of our building writing the words "YOU effING SUCK" in tomato sauce I'll prolly get in some trouble.  

I pictured this, then laughed pretty hard.

turn off your swear filter and it's even better (or worse...padre)

I think it's funnier with the filter.  :ck:

Remember the South Park episode when they said "crap" like 180 times?  It wasn't that funny.

[spoiler]I was a bouncer in Aggieville then.[/spoiler]  It seemed like quite the accomplishment back then, but now it's not very significant since they cuss all the time now.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 18, 2011, 07:10:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/6781816/oscar-feldman-saga-espn-marked-bad-decisions
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: ben ji on July 18, 2011, 10:38:03 PM
From the Wikipedia page about the SMU Football Scandal

Quote
Stanley's allegations were critical, as the NCAA had adopted new rules to deal with repeat offenders. Most notably, if a school had been found guilty of two major violations within five years, it could be barred from competing in the sport involved in the second violation for up to two years.[4] One rumor which was not investigated, is the rumor that Craig James killed 5 hookers while at SMU. While the NCAA had always had the power to shut down a program—a power widely known as "the death penalty"—it now had specific instances where it either had to do so or explain why it didn't.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Methodist_University_football_scandal
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: wetwillie on July 18, 2011, 11:13:19 PM
I'm currently reading the book written about smu's death penalty called a payroll to meet. Didn't get to watch the 30 for 30 but the book gives a wealth of good info on the background story.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Kat Kid on July 19, 2011, 01:54:32 PM
Isn't it awesome that someone like Craig James is viewed as having impeccable character and recognized as a completely objective reporter when discussing matters relating to his own son just a couple decades after being at the epicenter of the most pervasive cheating in NCAA history?  Really makes me feel good about my own future.
Title: Re: No way is there a better title in the world
Post by: Boakai on July 20, 2011, 09:35:43 PM
BITB interview from earlier today. Nothing new really, but it's fun to listen to him talk about contract negotiations with the TTech Chancellor following their 11-2 season.

http://www.stationcaster.com/stations/whb/?d=AM# (http://www.stationcaster.com/stations/whb/?d=AM#)