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Title: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: bigwillie20 on June 29, 2011, 10:22:49 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/30147/checking-the-big-12-coaching-hot-seats (http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/30147/checking-the-big-12-coaching-hot-seats)

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Dodd's system of ranking is on a 1-5 scale.

0-0.5 -- don't even think it -- can't be touched
1-1.5 -- very safe -- change highly unlikely
2-2.5 -- safe -- solid position
3-3.5 -- on the bubble -- you never know
4-4.5 -- warm seat -- feeling the pressure

LHC Bill Snyder, Kansas State (149-80-1, 20th season)

Snyder drew a 0.5, rightfully one of the coolest seats of any Big 12 coach. Snyder's second go-around in Manhattan finished with a bowl berth last season, the Wildcats' first since 2006. Snyder wants to "calm the waters" for his replacement, and he's on the way to doing it. K-State looks unlikely to win any championships this time, but there's no way Snyder gets the program moving in a direction that ends with his unwilling exit.

 :flush:
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: MadCat on June 29, 2011, 10:30:23 AM
If calming the waters is the only deliverable we are measuring OBs performance on, we should probably have a timeline in place so we know how well OB is actually doing. 
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: steve dave on June 29, 2011, 10:31:01 AM
It's unfortunately true though.  Our admin could give a crap about winning or doing things right or any of that (see mismatched field)
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 29, 2011, 10:33:16 AM
If calming the waters is the only deliverable we are measuring OBs performance on, we should probably have a timeline in place so we know how well OB is actually doing. 

If "calming the waters" is our standard of measuring then we don't deserve the rich alumni and meat goat wealth we have been given.
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 29, 2011, 10:36:10 AM
Ahhh Bill, what a nice warm blanket....
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: CNS on June 29, 2011, 10:40:45 AM
We would be mocking other conf buds for trying to get rid of a coach that has done what bill has in the last two seasons.

That said, you usually can't see crap from outside. 
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: wetwillie on June 29, 2011, 10:45:25 AM
I am now certain David Ubben is NOT a black guy


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Gill drew a 3.5. I'd agree with that, on the "you never know" point. He's unproven at the major conference level, and Kansas' team last season was one of the worst in Big 12 history.
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: CNS on June 29, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
I am now certain David Ubben is NOT a black guy


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Gill drew a 3.5. I'd agree with that, on the "you never know" point. He's unproven at the major conference level, and Kansas' team last season was one of the worst in Big 12 history.

Cheyenne Zulu said on the radio yesterday that the plan is to give Gill multiple recruiting classes/years.  I think he has at least two seasons left.
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2011, 04:12:03 PM
I am now certain David Ubben is NOT a black guy


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Gill drew a 3.5. I'd agree with that, on the "you never know" point. He's unproven at the major conference level, and Kansas' team last season was one of the worst in Big 12 history.

Cheyenne Zulu said on the radio yesterday that the plan is to give Gill multiple recruiting classes/years.  I think he has at least two seasons left.

He has three.  No way KU fires him after three years for a $4 million price tag.

My guess is he gets a very short extension of reassurance after year three (i.e. no buyout) so it looks like they're committing to him and he can recruit, but he'll be canned after year four or five with minimal losses to AD finances.

That contract is a golden parachute.  He gets every single dollar of that $10 million regardless of when they choose to can him.  And, really, how much does KU stand to gain from firing him early?  It's not like a new coach there is going to get people to come to their stadium in droves.  They can't even give free tickets away if they stuff stacks of them at every JoCo Quiznos with a, "Free: Take four" sign next to them.
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: _33 on July 01, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
Only at K-State does winning 1 conference championship 8 years ago still count for so much. If Mack brown goes 5-7 again he'll be on the hot seat and he's won multiple big 12 titles and a national championship. This is so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 01, 2011, 04:37:14 PM
Only at K-State does winning 1 conference championship 8 years ago still count for so much. If Mack brown goes 5-7 again he'll be on the hot seat and he's won multiple big 12 titles and a national championship. This is so ridiculous.

Mack is already on the hot seat for 5-7. He would be fired this year if he put up another 5-7.

Bill's seat is hotter than that article makes it sound, though.
Title: Re: Big 12 coaching hot seats
Post by: CNS on July 01, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
Only at K-State does winning 1 conference championship 8 years ago still count for so much. If Mack brown goes 5-7 again he'll be on the hot seat and he's won multiple big 12 titles and a national championship. This is so ridiculous.

Mack is already on the hot seat for 5-7. He would be fired this year if he put up another 5-7.

Bill's seat is hotter than that article makes it sound, though.

Yeah.  Mack could have a 7-5 year this year and they may cut his ass.