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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: The Manhatter on June 27, 2011, 12:27:43 PM
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unfortunately I'd say two road losses in terms of entertainment value.
OU 38 KSU 37 in '01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-R1Jf9a9TM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-R1Jf9a9TM)
CU 35 KSU 31 in '02 (please don't hate me for saying this one fatty)
still trying to figure out how '01 went 6-5 even with crapty defense. we had NFL in secondary with Newman, but then again I am an idiotgins, McGraw...LB Leber, Pierce and DL Mel Williams
'01 total defense (3rd): http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org)
'01 rush defense (11th): http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamrushdef&site=org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamrushdef&site=org)
'01 pass efficiency defense (6th): http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamdefpasseff&site=org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamdefpasseff&site=org)
'01 pass defense (7th): http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teampassdef&site=org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teampassdef&site=org)'01 scoring defense (7th): http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org)
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CU 35 KSU 31 in '02 (please don't hate me for saying this one fatty)
:curse: :curse: :curse: :bang: :bang: :bang: :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw:
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Taking out all the sentimental value of the games in question, I'd go with 2000 Nubb game. '98 was more :emawkid: but scoring a game winning TD in the snow is pretty :excited: no matter who you cheer for (assuming you aren't cheering for the losing team).
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Was '00 nubb when it took like an hour to rip down 1 upright? I remember sliding across the field after the game but that's about it
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I enjoyed most of the absurd blow out victories over IAAs and awful D1s during the DOD. Loved them.
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Was '00 nubb when it took like an hour to rip down 1 upright? I remember sliding across the field after the game but that's about it
I don't know, I left after an hour. I was in 7th grade and my family was pissed that I stayed on the field for so long. Totally worth it to slide across the field and have snowball fights, though.
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Yes, it took at least an hour in 2000 - I remember some dude ripping some cables from the fan-cam camera operator and turning it into a lasso to try & rip them down. Was very entertaining.
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Yes, it took at least an hour in 2000 - I remember some dude ripping some cables from the fan-cam camera operator and turning it into a lasso to try & rip them down. Was very entertaining.
If I remember correctly, they snapped at one point and were very close to decapitating a spectator.
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'03 Nebraska game when Jamal Lord got all tuff pregame during the coin toss. Bonus was Pelini vapor locking on OB after the game.
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'06 Texas
'02 USC
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06 Texas was pretty phenominal. 06 OSU is up there as well.
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last year's ku game was pretty fun. watched on a laptop from the lobby of a hilton garden inn's bar in long island, ny.
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'06 Texas was ridiculous. Prince really coached his ass off in that one.
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Aside from the 03 Dr. Pepper Game, 03 at Nebraska was the most entertaining game that I have ever been to.
Going back to the original two games being compared though, I was at both 01 @OU and 02 @CU and the entertainment value for the casual college football fan was probably a toss up (both were extremely entertaining). I think back to the 01 OU game and it honestly compares to 07 at Auburn in that we had a young promising QB that led us to a moral victory on national TV. (Also, College Gameday was in Norman for the 01 game) 02 at Colorado was one of the biggest KITN games that I've ever been to, and we would have been National Championship contenders that season if we had won that game. Overall, I had a much better experience at the OU game than the CU one.
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02 holiday bowl
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Yes, it took at least an hour in 2000 - I remember some dude ripping some cables from the fan-cam camera operator and turning it into a lasso to try & rip them down. Was very entertaining.
If I remember correctly, they snapped at one point and were very close to decapitating a spectator.
Can confirm that this is true.
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06 texas and 98 nubb
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I'm just waiting for somebody to come in here and try to tell us all that some game from the Smargiasso era was really the most entertaining game of all time. :cyclist:
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Yes, it took at least an hour in 2000 - I remember some dude ripping some cables from the fan-cam camera operator and turning it into a lasso to try & rip them down. Was very entertaining.
If I remember correctly, they snapped at one point and were very close to decapitating a spectator.
Also remember a bunch of jackasses in the back of the crowd throwing shoes and bottles and crap up towards the goalpost :shakesfist:
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Was on the field around the 35 or 40. Was 100% sure someone was going to die that day. Was 100% surprised when it didn't happen.
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close games can GTFOOMF. too nerve wracking. give me a nice conference blowout anyday.
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9/5/1998
9/12/1998
11/14/1998
12/6/2003
11/11/2006
11/14/2010
Those were the most entertaining games that I've been at.
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64-0. I mean, my god
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64-0. I mean, my god
The game, not so entertaining watching a curbstomp like that. The ku fans streaming out of Memorial was much more entertaining.
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09 game vs. A&M, I mean that one came out of left field.
62-14 against a bowl team from the big 12 south!
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Fiesta Bowl 1997
2000 Nebraska game, one of my favorite childhood memories.
OSU 2006
Fiesta Bowl 2003-2004 season
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Eff you at the guys who call 00 Nubb a childhood game. Like I'm old? Eff!
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'00 OU - the blocked punt alone was fantastic.
'01 OU - spot the ball, Randy, you SOB.
'02 CU - can't remember what OL missed a block on the 4th down option.
'99 MU - anytime the wife of the head coach is on the field yelling at players it is entertaining
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9/9/95 @ Cincinnati
Kevin rough ridin' Lockett and Matt Miller engineer an amazing last minute drive.
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1993 Nebraska game, we really should have won the game.
1991 Nebraska game . . . see 1993 Nebraska game.
1995 ku game, so bad for KU my little KU buddy walked out halfway through the 2nd qtr.
1997 Missouri. To set the stage, Moo under Larry Smith that year thought that they were pretty good, they came into the game having just beat Iowa State pretty bad and they hung with Ohio State for most of the game a couple of weeks prior. The year before K-State beat them 35-10 in Columbia, but all they could talk about was how many yards rushing they had and how K-State wasn't that good (how yards rushing and TOP matter when you lose by 25 I'll never quite understand). K-State came into the game having just been beaten pretty soundly by NU in Lincoln when Snyder folded his tent (never forgive him for that, we scored our first TD in the first quarter starting deep in our own territory on 3 straight pass plays). Anywho, Missouri came into the game all cocky, and K-State with Bishop running wild destroyed them. I remember some MU team manager had a website and he talked about how distraught the whole team was. Plus, it was great because Larry Smith hated K-State.
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Cu in 95, OB pulled out all the tricks in what should of been a classic game winning drive by Matt "the Magician" Miller only to have CU just school the GDCOAT (seriously, the 1995 D staff was Levit, B. Stoops, M. Stoops, Venz) and drive the length of the field for the wining points. That drive by CU was so deflating, the cats came out and screwed up a shotgun snap that CU ran in for a TD and no one cared.
IIRC, this was the game that inspired Slick Rick's classic line - "CU is still CU and Kstate is still Kstate" :bang:
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The Pinstripe Bowl was very entertaining. It just didn't end the way we wanted.
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CU '08 was a gem. Between Snipes (or was it Hilburn?) level the CU punt returner and The Hawk's subsequent reaction, and Prince ordering Freemaw to throw the ball out of bounds to run out the clock to end the first half (from the KSU 10 yard line...I mean wow. About the most entertaining 8 minutes in sports history.
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CU '08 was a gem. Between Snipes (or was it Hilburn?) level the CU punt returner and The Hawk's subsequent reaction, and Prince ordering Freemaw to throw the ball out of bounds to run out the clock to end the first half (from the KSU 10 yard line...I mean wow. About the most entertaining 8 minutes in sports history.
Snipes :thumbs:
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'03 NU, no question. That game was perfect in every way. Even the bogus NU TD from Lord's knee made it better somehow.
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'03 NU, no question. That game was perfect in every way. Even the bogus NU TD from Lord's knee made it better somehow.
The fact they cut away from our blowout game pissed me off yet puffed my chest up a bit.
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'03 NU, no question. That game was perfect in every way. Even the bogus NU TD from Lord's knee made it better somehow.
The fact they cut away from our blowout game pissed me off yet puffed my chest up a bit.
yeah. knowing that the national media types just viewed our game as a ho-hum K-State blowout of NU felt good. really good.
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CU '08 was a gem. Between Snipes (or was it Hilburn?) level the CU punt returner and The Hawk's subsequent reaction, and Prince ordering Freemaw to throw the ball out of bounds to run out the clock to end the first half (from the KSU 10 yard line...I mean wow. About the most entertaining 8 minutes in sports history.
the cas4ksu family attended that one. We had seats right behind the KSU bench about 8 rows up around the 40 yard line. After that play all of the CU fans were really giving it to Attrail. You could tell Attrail was a little disturbed by the CU fans insults. As the only K-State fan in the vicinity, I promptly flashed the :lynchmob: sign, having seen me Attrail responded with a :thumbs:
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CU '08 was a gem. Between Snipes (or was it Hilburn?) level the CU punt returner and The Hawk's subsequent reaction, and Prince ordering Freemaw to throw the ball out of bounds to run out the clock to end the first half (from the KSU 10 yard line...I mean wow. About the most entertaining 8 minutes in sports history.
the cas4ksu family attended that one. We had seats right behind the KSU bench about 8 rows up around the 40 yard line. After that play all of the CU fans were really giving it to Attrail. You could tell Attrail was a little disturbed by the CU fans insults. As the only K-State fan in the vicinity, I promptly flashed the :lynchmob: sign, having seen me Attrail responded with a :thumbs:
:love:
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59-7
and we weren't even that great. :emawkid:
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Baylor this past year was quite entertaining... After waiting out the two hour lightning delay in my car.
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Baylor this past year was quite entertaining... After waiting out the two hour lightning delay in my car.
Was at this game. When. They stormed the field, my friends and I looked at each other and agreed to go on the field. Then we palled around with Bish, Aaron and Quincy.
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In no real order,
OU 2000 in MHK
NU 2000 in MHK
UT 2006 in MHK
OU 2001 in MHK
@UT 1999
OU 2003 in KC
UT in 1999 often gets overlooked, but it was a great game, and with the return by Allen and the Int by Simoneau and the numerous sacks was great for ksu fans.
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UT in 1999 often gets overlooked, but it was a great game, and with the return by Allen and the Int by Simoneau and the numerous sacks was great for ksu fans.
Tremendously entertaining game! Adding to the entertainment value was the starting QB drama and Jon Wefald's famously idiotic wealthy and arrogant Texans quote.
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UT in 1999 often gets overlooked, but it was a great game, and with the return by Allen and the Int by Simoneau and the numerous sacks was great for ksu fans.
Tremendously entertaining game! Adding to the entertainment value was the starting QB drama and Jon Wefald's famously idiotic wealthy and arrogant Texans quote.
I was at this game... the only time I've been to Austin unfortunately. The stadium rocking a RICH! ARROGANT! chant was classic. Some q@s fan was asking everyone in line whether Wefald's statement was right or if he was out of his mind. I chose the latter.
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48-7 over Texas in 1998 was also very entertaining and somewhat forgotten in my estimation. Jeff Kelly's clownsuiting of Ricky Williams really set the tone for CTR's to come.
K-State / Iowa State Farmageddon in 1999 was also extremely entertaining. Coming back from 28-0 to win 35-28 on the broad shoulders of Joe Hall and Adam Helm was a tremendous moment in the DOD.
Both very ENTERTAINING.
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Farmageddon I was extremely entertaining and is completely overlooked.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.kansas.com%2Fkstated%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F09%2FBlocked-PAT.jpg&hash=9fd8425259d8e159916e27950ed3a6b38322ea39)
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59-7
and we weren't even that great. :emawkid:
The play where Klein was just supposed to run to eat up some clock, and the ku D was so bad he ran it for a touchdown from 40 yards out.
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Farmageddon I was extremely entertaining and is completely overlooked.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.kansas.com%2Fkstated%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F09%2FBlocked-PAT.jpg&hash=9fd8425259d8e159916e27950ed3a6b38322ea39)
Srsly. That game was decided by two consecutive tipped balls AND featured a GG pass downfield over 15+ yards in the air.
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Farmageddon I was extremely entertaining and is completely overlooked.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.kansas.com%2Fkstated%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F09%2FBlocked-PAT.jpg&hash=9fd8425259d8e159916e27950ed3a6b38322ea39)
Srsly. That game was decided by two consecutive tipped balls AND featured a GG pass downfield over 15+ yards in the air.
GG crying afterwards was a very :bawl: / :kstatriot: moment.
Tucks everywhere anointed him as the greatest "Foundation builder" QB in OB'z second DOD.
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Any game between 2000 and 2003.
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Farmageddon I was extremely entertaining and is completely overlooked.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.kansas.com%2Fkstated%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F09%2FBlocked-PAT.jpg&hash=9fd8425259d8e159916e27950ed3a6b38322ea39)
Srsly. That game was decided by two consecutive tipped balls AND featured a GG pass downfield over 15+ yards in the air.
GG crying afterwards was a very :bawl: / :kstatriot: moment.
Tucks everywhere anointed him as the greatest "Foundation builder" QB in OB'z second DOD.
yes.
GG did things "the right way" and worked hard to "improve a little bit every day".
It's the formula.
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It was bothering me and I had to find the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGbA5Q--qM&feature=related
:kstatriot:
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59-7
and we weren't even that great. :emawkid:
that was your most entertaining game? :facepalm:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFX4QyoFN54
Here's my personal favorite! :grin:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFX4QyoFN54
Here's my personal favorite! :grin:
Good job you beat a 4-7 team
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Baylor this past year was quite entertaining... After waiting out the two hour lightning delay in my car.
Was at this game. When. They stormed the field, my friends and I looked at each other and agreed to go on the field. Then we palled around with Bish, Aaron and Quincy.
I was at this game as well. BU and the North Texas games made me come an eyelash from renouncing my :lynchmob: I know it's not a popular sentiment, but I actually see the value in OB coaching. However, if that defense is even in the same hemisphere of ineptitude again this year I will be on the goEMAW bandwagon if Cosh isn't immediately fired. BTW...was it one of you who went on the field and stole the football after the game in WACO? Did the lady security guard ever catch you?
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Baylor this past year was quite entertaining... After waiting out the two hour lightning delay in my car.
Was at this game. When. They stormed the field, my friends and I looked at each other and agreed to go on the field. Then we palled around with Bish, Aaron and Quincy.
I was at this game as well. BU and the North Texas games made me come an eyelash from renouncing my :lynchmob: I know it's not a popular sentiment, but I actually see the value in OB coaching. However, if that defense is even in the same hemisphere of ineptitude again this year I will be on the goEMAW bandwagon if Cosh isn't immediately fired. BTW...was it one of you who went on the field and stole the football after the game in WACO? Did the lady security guard ever catch you?
what makes you think it will be better? Even with AB & an improved D-Line - the probability of a defense going from worst in the country to even marginal is extremely unlikely under a coordinator that has never fielded a successful defense. If OB didn't fire him after this year - why should he get another chance?
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Good job you beat a 4-7 team
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In which that 4-7 team was up 23-9 in the 4th.... :drink:
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Baylor this past year was quite entertaining... After waiting out the two hour lightning delay in my car.
Was at this game. When. They stormed the field, my friends and I looked at each other and agreed to go on the field. Then we palled around with Bish, Aaron and Quincy.
I was at this game as well. BU and the North Texas games made me come an eyelash from renouncing my :lynchmob: I know it's not a popular sentiment, but I actually see the value in OB coaching. However, if that defense is even in the same hemisphere of ineptitude again this year I will be on the goEMAW bandwagon if Cosh isn't immediately fired. BTW...was it one of you who went on the field and stole the football after the game in WACO? Did the lady security guard ever catch you?
what makes you think it will be better? Even with AB & an improved D-Line - the probability of a defense going from worst in the country to even marginal is extremely unlikely under a coordinator that has never fielded a successful defense. If OB didn't fire him after this year - why should he get another chance?
Well, for starters, we'll have AB and an improved D-Line (fingers firmly crossed). I also think that Tre Walker will be vastly improved in his second season. Stopping the run should be aided by switching back to a 4-3. Finally, we have some interesting prospects in the secondary to go along with a new DB and passing game coordinator (tom hayes) who has loads of experience in both NFL and FBS football. However, I sleep at night knowing that it can't get worse on defense, and our offense was UNBELIEVABLE last year without any threat at QB and most of our WR's hurt.
In all seriousness I have ZERO idea why OB didn't fire Cosh. I don't give an eff if we had high school talent or not (not saying definitively that we did), there is no way on this planet that North Texas should have moved the ball at will on us. I live in Dallas metro, and watched 3 or 4 UNT games. They were TERRIBLE! I was literally embarrassed to be wearing purple after that game. The decision to retain Cosh defies all of the logic I possess.
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Baylor this past year was quite entertaining... After waiting out the two hour lightning delay in my car.
Was at this game. When. They stormed the field, my friends and I looked at each other and agreed to go on the field. Then we palled around with Bish, Aaron and Quincy.
I was at this game as well. BU and the North Texas games made me come an eyelash from renouncing my :lynchmob: I know it's not a popular sentiment, but I actually see the value in OB coaching. However, if that defense is even in the same hemisphere of ineptitude again this year I will be on the goEMAW bandwagon if Cosh isn't immediately fired. BTW...was it one of you who went on the field and stole the football after the game in WACO? Did the lady security guard ever catch you?
what makes you think it will be better? Even with AB & an improved D-Line - the probability of a defense going from worst in the country to even marginal is extremely unlikely under a coordinator that has never fielded a successful defense. If OB didn't fire him after this year - why should he get another chance?
Well, for starters, we'll have AB and an improved D-Line (fingers firmly crossed). I also think that Tre Walker will be vastly improved in his second season. Stopping the run should be aided by switching back to a 4-3. Finally, we have some interesting prospects in the secondary to go along with a new DB and passing game coordinator (tom hayes) who has loads of experience in both NFL and FBS football. However, I sleep at night knowing that it can't get worse on defense, and our offense was UNBELIEVABLE last year without any threat at QB and most of our WR's hurt.
In all seriousness I have ZERO idea why OB didn't fire Cosh. I don't give an eff if we had high school talent or not (not saying definitively that we did), there is no way on this planet that North Texas should have moved the ball at will on us. I live in Dallas metro, and watched 3 or 4 UNT games. They were TERRIBLE! I was literally embarrassed to be wearing purple after that game. The decision to retain Cosh defies all of the logic I possess.
lol, yep snyder not firing under performing assistants, no trends or any indicators that could have happened.
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Well, for starters, we'll have AB and an improved D-Line (fingers firmly crossed). I also think that Tre Walker will be vastly improved in his second season. Stopping the run should be aided by switching back to a 4-3. Finally, we have some interesting prospects in the secondary to go along with a new DB and passing game coordinator (tom hayes) who has loads of experience in both NFL and FBS football. However, I sleep at night knowing that it can't get worse on defense, and our offense was UNBELIEVABLE last year without any threat at QB and most of our WR's hurt.
In all seriousness I have ZERO idea why OB didn't fire Cosh. I don't give an eff if we had high school talent or not (not saying definitively that we did), there is no way on this planet that North Texas should have moved the ball at will on us. I live in Dallas metro, and watched 3 or 4 UNT games. They were TERRIBLE! I was literally embarrassed to be wearing purple after that game. The decision to retain Cosh defies all of the logic I possess.
wtf does it matter if they're out of position and don't know what the eff they're doing?
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One super overlooked and incredibly entertaining game was the 2002 Holiday Bowl against Arizona State. Tremendously exciting.
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One super overlooked and incredibly entertaining game was the 2002 Holiday Bowl against Arizona State. Tremendously exciting.
The "Ell" Dance!
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One super overlooked and incredibly entertaining game was the 2002 Holiday Bowl against Arizona State. Tremendously exciting.
The "Ell" Dance!
Terrance Newman was all over that game.
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One super overlooked and incredibly entertaining game was the 2002 Holiday Bowl against Arizona State. Tremendously exciting.
The "Ell" Dance!
Terrance Newman was all over that game.
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Good job you beat a 4-7 team
In which that 4-7 team was up 23-9 in the 4th.... :drink:
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jfc get back to filling sandbags you inbred trailer park man of taste and distinction
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Well, for starters, we'll have AB and an improved D-Line (fingers firmly crossed). I also think that Tre Walker will be vastly improved in his second season. Stopping the run should be aided by switching back to a 4-3. Finally, we have some interesting prospects in the secondary to go along with a new DB and passing game coordinator (tom hayes) who has loads of experience in both NFL and FBS football. However, I sleep at night knowing that it can't get worse on defense, and our offense was UNBELIEVABLE last year without any threat at QB and most of our WR's hurt.
In all seriousness I have ZERO idea why OB didn't fire Cosh. I don't give an eff if we had high school talent or not (not saying definitively that we did), there is no way on this planet that North Texas should have moved the ball at will on us. I live in Dallas metro, and watched 3 or 4 UNT games. They were TERRIBLE! I was literally embarrassed to be wearing purple after that game. The decision to retain Cosh defies all of the logic I possess.
wtf does it matter if they're out of position and don't know what the eff they're doing?
I'm not arguing we should have kept Cosh, and that we will be back to LynchMob form in no time. I just don't pretend to know all the facts of the situation. I do know that many times when intelligent people make seemingly obvious unintelligent decisions it is because there are other circumstances that we're not privy to. Like I said, I hope with personnel improvements and a migration from Koening's defense to the much more familiar 4-3 that we can improve to at least a middle of the pack defense. After this season we can reassess where we are at that point. I hope that Cosh "resigns" to explore other options now that his son left, but I highly doubt it.
I'm alright with where we're headed though. I applaud OB for coming back to help remedy the situation Prince left us in. I think we are improving starters and depth for now and the future, and putting the program on much more solid ground for the next coach. Hey, I would love to win 10 games every year again, but do you remember seeing the stands 10-20% empty at game time, and then 50%+ empty in the second half during Prince's tenure? Do you remember getting beat by 40-60 points every week? Do you remember recruiting 19 JUCO's in one class, and having many of the KS high school coaches urging their kids to go to other schools. As long as we're trending upward and going bowling each year I'll continue to support B-Snyd. I've seen some argue that last year is as good as OB can do. How do you know that? He has improved the team both years he's been back? Also, I don't fault Snyder for accepting the job and doing his best to fix the mess he was forced to watch each Saturday. Be mad at Wefald (or Fitz) if you wanted somebody else. You can't be mad at the guy that accepted the challenge and then works his ass off to accomplish his goals.
The only thing I do know is that this staff will be here this season so I will support the team as best I can. I have never really understood being either a b-ball or football fan. I'm a Kansas State fan. I cheer for all of our teams. That doesn't mean I blindly follow every move they make, but I can't assume every decision made is stupid, tuck, sinister, powerrespect, kstateo, etc. (sorry if I used any of the emaw-isms incorrectly. i'm new here)
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Well, for starters, we'll have AB and an improved D-Line (fingers firmly crossed). I also think that Tre Walker will be vastly improved in his second season. Stopping the run should be aided by switching back to a 4-3. Finally, we have some interesting prospects in the secondary to go along with a new DB and passing game coordinator (tom hayes) who has loads of experience in both NFL and FBS football. However, I sleep at night knowing that it can't get worse on defense, and our offense was UNBELIEVABLE last year without any threat at QB and most of our WR's hurt.
In all seriousness I have ZERO idea why OB didn't fire Cosh. I don't give an eff if we had high school talent or not (not saying definitively that we did), there is no way on this planet that North Texas should have moved the ball at will on us. I live in Dallas metro, and watched 3 or 4 UNT games. They were TERRIBLE! I was literally embarrassed to be wearing purple after that game. The decision to retain Cosh defies all of the logic I possess.
wtf does it matter if they're out of position and don't know what the eff they're doing?
I'm not arguing we should have kept Cosh, and that we will be back to LynchMob form in no time. I just don't pretend to know all the facts of the situation. I do know that many times when intelligent people make seemingly obvious unintelligent decisions it is because there are other circumstances that we're not privy to. Like I said, I hope with personnel improvements and a migration from Koening's defense to the much more familiar 4-3 that we can improve to at least a middle of the pack defense. After this season we can reassess where we are at that point. I hope that Cosh "resigns" to explore other options now that his son left, but I highly doubt it.
I'm alright with where we're headed though. I applaud OB for coming back to help remedy the situation Prince left us in. I think we are improving starters and depth for now and the future, and putting the program on much more solid ground for the next coach. Hey, I would love to win 10 games every year again, but do you remember seeing the stands 10-20% empty at game time, and then 50%+ empty in the second half during Prince's tenure? Do you remember getting beat by 40-60 points every week? Do you remember recruiting 19 JUCO's in one class, and having many of the KS high school coaches urging their kids to go to other schools. As long as we're trending upward and going bowling each year I'll continue to support B-Snyd. I've seen some argue that last year is as good as OB can do. How do you know that? He has improved the team both years he's been back? Also, I don't fault Snyder for accepting the job and doing his best to fix the mess he was forced to watch each Saturday. Be mad at Wefald (or Fitz) if you wanted somebody else. You can't be mad at the guy that accepted the challenge and then works his ass off to accomplish his goals.
The only thing I do know is that this staff will be here this season so I will support the team as best I can. I have never really understood being either a b-ball or football fan. I'm a Kansas State fan. I cheer for all of our teams. That doesn't mean I blindly follow every move they make, but I can't assume every decision made is stupid, tuck, sinister, powerrespect, kstateo, etc. (sorry if I used any of the emaw-isms incorrectly. i'm new here)
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That doesn't mean I blindly follow every move they make, but I can't assume every decision made is stupid, tuck, sinister, powerrespect, kstateo, etc.
Yeah, see, you CAN assume that. Because it is. Everything we do is K-Stateo'd up. (See: taking a good field and ruining it.)
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While not being privy to information, I still believe the kangaroo court surrounding Wefald and Krause's handling of the athletic department stems from batshit lunacy. Rehiring Snyder is one result of that insanity. I appreciate what the guy did in the past, but what I see now is no different than what I saw with Bobby Elliott at the helm of the defense after Bielema left. Hell, Cosh was part of that defensive staff! Run my defense into the ground once, shame on you. Run it into the ground twice, shame on me. NO MOAR!! :shakesfist:
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Well, for starters, we'll have AB and an improved D-Line (fingers firmly crossed). I also think that Tre Walker will be vastly improved in his second season. Stopping the run should be aided by switching back to a 4-3. Finally, we have some interesting prospects in the secondary to go along with a new DB and passing game coordinator (tom hayes) who has loads of experience in both NFL and FBS football. However, I sleep at night knowing that it can't get worse on defense, and our offense was UNBELIEVABLE last year without any threat at QB and most of our WR's hurt.
In all seriousness I have ZERO idea why OB didn't fire Cosh. I don't give an eff if we had high school talent or not (not saying definitively that we did), there is no way on this planet that North Texas should have moved the ball at will on us. I live in Dallas metro, and watched 3 or 4 UNT games. They were TERRIBLE! I was literally embarrassed to be wearing purple after that game. The decision to retain Cosh defies all of the logic I possess.
wtf does it matter if they're out of position and don't know what the eff they're doing?
I'm not arguing we should have kept Cosh, and that we will be back to LynchMob form in no time. I just don't pretend to know all the facts of the situation. I do know that many times when intelligent people make seemingly obvious unintelligent decisions it is because there are other circumstances that we're not privy to. Like I said, I hope with personnel improvements and a migration from Koening's defense to the much more familiar 4-3 that we can improve to at least a middle of the pack defense. After this season we can reassess where we are at that point. I hope that Cosh "resigns" to explore other options now that his son left, but I highly doubt it.
I'm alright with where we're headed though. I applaud OB for coming back to help remedy the situation Prince left us in. I think we are improving starters and depth for now and the future, and putting the program on much more solid ground for the next coach. Hey, I would love to win 10 games every year again, but do you remember seeing the stands 10-20% empty at game time, and then 50%+ empty in the second half during Prince's tenure? Do you remember getting beat by 40-60 points every week? Do you remember recruiting 19 JUCO's in one class, and having many of the KS high school coaches urging their kids to go to other schools. As long as we're trending upward and going bowling each year I'll continue to support B-Snyd. I've seen some argue that last year is as good as OB can do. How do you know that? He has improved the team both years he's been back? Also, I don't fault Snyder for accepting the job and doing his best to fix the mess he was forced to watch each Saturday. Be mad at Wefald (or Fitz) if you wanted somebody else. You can't be mad at the guy that accepted the challenge and then works his ass off to accomplish his goals.
The only thing I do know is that this staff will be here this season so I will support the team as best I can. I have never really understood being either a b-ball or football fan. I'm a Kansas State fan. I cheer for all of our teams. That doesn't mean I blindly follow every move they make, but I can't assume every decision made is stupid, tuck, sinister, powerrespect, kstateo, etc. (sorry if I used any of the emaw-isms incorrectly. i'm new here)
Who said I was mad at the guy?