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Title: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Kat Kid on June 05, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
Last night I had already downed a couple beers and I attempted to order a martini after someone else ordered a Manhattan (trying to be cool).  I like Ketel One dirty martinis, but I don't really know ordering protocol or what is going on.  How can I order better, what are some other options, (COSMOS! har har) and what are the possible questions I will encounter from a good bar keep when I order one?  I want to be better prepared here.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Cire on June 05, 2011, 01:55:21 PM
order it dry for less vermouth.

I'd like a  Dirty kettle Martini Dry.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 05, 2011, 02:01:03 PM
Just say:
Dirty
Stoli
Up
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: wabash909 on June 05, 2011, 02:20:29 PM
Call your liquor followed by "up" (or on the rocks), dirty or dry, followed by garnish.

Hendricks
Up
Dirty
Two olives

Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: 06wildcat on June 05, 2011, 02:54:46 PM
Why not just order a scotch?
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2011, 03:45:08 PM
i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Pendergast on June 05, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
Stop being such a mommy and order a beer.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
Stop being such a mommy and order a beer.
no class hayseed.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 05, 2011, 09:33:06 PM
i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne

 :lol:

No wonder you like Hendricks so much. Anything would taste good with all the crap added to it. Call me when your gin is good enough to drink straight.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Pendergast on June 05, 2011, 09:38:57 PM
Stop being such a mommy and order a beer.
no class hayseed.

Us southern california hipsters knock back local micro brews, while you hayseeds think you can be as cool as we are by ordering martinis.  Sad really.  Go order some more "I wish I was cool" martinis loser.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: jtksu on June 05, 2011, 09:49:38 PM
So Cal hipsters?  Do you guys all look like Ben Folds when you knock back your beers?
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Pendergast on June 05, 2011, 09:54:51 PM
Of course not, we look cool.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne

 :lol:

No wonder you like Hendricks so much. Anything would taste good with all the crap added to it. Call me when your gin is good enough to drink straight.

i drink it neat all the time, can i get your number so i can call you now?   :party:

Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2011, 09:56:55 PM
So Cal hipsters?  Do you guys all look like Ben Folds when you knock back your beers?
i'm guessing he pounds old styles and smokes parliments
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Pendergast on June 05, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
Smoking has been taboo in SoCal since 1999.  Come on dude, keep up.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 05, 2011, 11:19:06 PM
i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne

 :lol:

No wonder you like Hendricks so much. Anything would taste good with all the crap added to it. Call me when your gin is good enough to drink straight.

i drink it neat all the time, can i get your number so i can call you now?   :party:



I misspoke. How about, "call me when your gin is so good that the only way you'd drink it is straight because you'd hate to tarnish the taste".
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: sys on June 06, 2011, 07:55:35 AM
I don't really know ordering protocol.

just tell the bartender to make it a good one.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: slimz on June 06, 2011, 11:58:53 AM
Elements of a martini order:

*  Amount of vermouth (wine that's had liquor added). If you don't specify, they should make it with at least one part vermouth for 3 parts gin/vodka. They probably won't--most bartenders these days seem to err on the dry side, thanks to the popularity of the dry martini. "Dry" means you want less vermouth. "Extra dry" or "very dry" means they should basically swish some vermouth around the glass and then dump it out. Some folks will order a martini "wet" to indicate that they don't want the bartender to skimp on the vermouth, but I've found that this can confuse servers. It's ultimately easier to just tell them not to be shy with the vermouth.

*  Whether you want it "dirty," i.e., with olive brine. No real point in specifying a vermouth preference if you do this, as the brine taste will overpower the vermouth, anyway.

*  Alcohol: gin or vodka. (Purists insist a "martini" means gin, and "vodka martini" must be specifically ordered. Better to just specify which these days.) Specify brand if you desire (you should). 

*  How you want it served:  on the rocks (no), up/straight up (yes).  Up and straight up are the same thing, means you don't want ice in the glass.

*  Garnish:  if you want. Olives, pearl onion (just order a "Gibson" if you want this), or "with a twist" (slice of lemon peel).

So, for example:

"I'll have a dirty Stoli martini, up with two olives."

"I'll have a Most Wanted martini, dry and up."

or my typical order:

"A Plymouth martini, up with a twist, please."

Different folks will arrange the elements in their order differently. Do whatever works for you.

Don't bother with specifying "shaken" or "stirred." You'll sound like you just finished watching Goldfinger. If the bartender knows what he or she is doing, they'll stir it. If you ordered a dirty martini, then it doesn't matter anyway...the brine's just going to overpower everything.

Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Farley Grudge on June 06, 2011, 04:53:34 PM
Next time you should just order a Manhattan.  Your friend sounds like a badass.  Most people that drink Manhattans are.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 06, 2011, 04:54:43 PM
Elements of a martini order:

*  Amount of vermouth (wine that's had liquor added). If you don't specify, they should make it with at least one part vermouth for 3 parts gin/vodka. They probably won't--most bartenders these days seem to err on the dry side, thanks to the popularity of the dry martini. "Dry" means you want less vermouth. "Extra dry" or "very dry" means they should basically swish some vermouth around the glass and then dump it out. Some folks will order a martini "wet" to indicate that they don't want the bartender to skimp on the vermouth, but I've found that this can confuse servers. It's ultimately easier to just tell them not to be shy with the vermouth.

*  Whether you want it "dirty," i.e., with olive brine. No real point in specifying a vermouth preference if you do this, as the brine taste will overpower the vermouth, anyway.

*  Alcohol: gin or vodka. (Purists insist a "martini" means gin, and "vodka martini" must be specifically ordered. Better to just specify which these days.) Specify brand if you desire (you should). 

*  How you want it served:  on the rocks (no), up/straight up (yes).  Up and straight up are the same thing, means you don't want ice in the glass.

*  Garnish:  if you want. Olives, pearl onion (just order a "Gibson" if you want this), or "with a twist" (slice of lemon peel).

So, for example:

"I'll have a dirty Stoli martini, up with two olives."

"I'll have a Most Wanted martini, dry and up."

or my typical order:

"A Plymouth martini, up with a twist, please."

Different folks will arrange the elements in their order differently. Do whatever works for you.

Don't bother with specifying "shaken" or "stirred." You'll sound like you just finished watching Goldfinger. If the bartender knows what he or she is doing, they'll stir it. If you ordered a dirty martini, then it doesn't matter anyway...the brine's just going to overpower everything.



You sound really smart.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: 8manpick on June 06, 2011, 08:22:25 PM
One of the major drawbacks to Aggieville is that there is almost no chance of getting any of these drinks made right at any bar other that KatHouse and maybe So Long or Auntie Mae's.  Also, Aggieville bartenders should learn the difference between a double and a tall.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: jtksu on June 06, 2011, 08:25:16 PM
If you're in college, you need to just stick with the basics.  Order a beer or a liquor w/ one mixer.  Anything beyond that and you sound like you're trying to be all sophisticated and that's just dumb, especially when you're paying for the drink with mommy and daddy's money.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Tobias on June 06, 2011, 08:26:49 PM
sorry, not a drawback
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
At Harold's last night ordered:

Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives

Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.

Thanks to all.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: wabash909 on June 11, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
At Harold's last night ordered:

Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives

Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.

Thanks to all.

Good job, Tortuga.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: sys on June 11, 2011, 01:27:35 PM
At Harold's last night ordered:

Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives

Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.

Thanks to all.

i wouldn't have had the balls to order a dirty martini after absorbing the scorn that slimz heaped on the philistines that drink that crap.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2011, 03:15:25 PM
If you think I am going to be PI'd by a 110 lbs. squawk in Thai poker playing emaw clothing, you are mistaken.
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: FP TC etc. on June 11, 2011, 10:42:34 PM
At Harold's last night ordered:

Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives

Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.

Thanks to all.

Do these even taste good?
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Kat Kid on June 12, 2011, 12:28:00 AM
At Harold's last night ordered:

Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives

Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.

Thanks to all.

Do these even taste good?

I guess that depends on what tastes you like.  Do you like the taste of olives and vodka?
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: FP TC etc. on June 12, 2011, 10:06:51 AM
I'm ok with Vodka.

Olives can gtfoooomf.    :blindfold:
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Cire on June 12, 2011, 10:11:26 AM
I'm ok with Vodka.

Olives can gtfoooomf.    :blindfold:

you would not like at all
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: FP TC etc. on June 12, 2011, 10:13:31 AM
I'm ok with Vodka.

Olives can gtfoooomf.    :blindfold:

you would not like at all

Good to know, goEMAW saves that day again.  :katpak:
Title: Re: Ordering a Martini
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 12, 2011, 03:48:33 PM
Just enjoyed a Bombay Sapphire Martini, on the rocks with a twist. Delicious.