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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Kat Kid on June 05, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
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Last night I had already downed a couple beers and I attempted to order a martini after someone else ordered a Manhattan (trying to be cool). I like Ketel One dirty martinis, but I don't really know ordering protocol or what is going on. How can I order better, what are some other options, (COSMOS! har har) and what are the possible questions I will encounter from a good bar keep when I order one? I want to be better prepared here.
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order it dry for less vermouth.
I'd like a Dirty kettle Martini Dry.
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Just say:
Dirty
Stoli
Up
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Call your liquor followed by "up" (or on the rocks), dirty or dry, followed by garnish.
Hendricks
Up
Dirty
Two olives
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Why not just order a scotch?
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i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne
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Stop being such a mommy and order a beer.
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Stop being such a mommy and order a beer.
no class hayseed.
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i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne
:lol:
No wonder you like Hendricks so much. Anything would taste good with all the crap added to it. Call me when your gin is good enough to drink straight.
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Stop being such a mommy and order a beer.
no class hayseed.
Us southern california hipsters knock back local micro brews, while you hayseeds think you can be as cool as we are by ordering martinis. Sad really. Go order some more "I wish I was cool" martinis loser. :cheers:
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So Cal hipsters? Do you guys all look like Ben Folds when you knock back your beers?
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Of course not, we look cool.
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i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne
:lol:
No wonder you like Hendricks so much. Anything would taste good with all the crap added to it. Call me when your gin is good enough to drink straight.
i drink it neat all the time, can i get your number so i can call you now? :party:
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So Cal hipsters? Do you guys all look like Ben Folds when you knock back your beers?
i'm guessing he pounds old styles and smokes parliments
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Smoking has been taboo in SoCal since 1999. Come on dude, keep up.
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i do raspberry's, Hendricks, champagne
:lol:
No wonder you like Hendricks so much. Anything would taste good with all the crap added to it. Call me when your gin is good enough to drink straight.
i drink it neat all the time, can i get your number so i can call you now? :party:
I misspoke. How about, "call me when your gin is so good that the only way you'd drink it is straight because you'd hate to tarnish the taste".
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I don't really know ordering protocol.
just tell the bartender to make it a good one.
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Elements of a martini order:
* Amount of vermouth (wine that's had liquor added). If you don't specify, they should make it with at least one part vermouth for 3 parts gin/vodka. They probably won't--most bartenders these days seem to err on the dry side, thanks to the popularity of the dry martini. "Dry" means you want less vermouth. "Extra dry" or "very dry" means they should basically swish some vermouth around the glass and then dump it out. Some folks will order a martini "wet" to indicate that they don't want the bartender to skimp on the vermouth, but I've found that this can confuse servers. It's ultimately easier to just tell them not to be shy with the vermouth.
* Whether you want it "dirty," i.e., with olive brine. No real point in specifying a vermouth preference if you do this, as the brine taste will overpower the vermouth, anyway.
* Alcohol: gin or vodka. (Purists insist a "martini" means gin, and "vodka martini" must be specifically ordered. Better to just specify which these days.) Specify brand if you desire (you should).
* How you want it served: on the rocks (no), up/straight up (yes). Up and straight up are the same thing, means you don't want ice in the glass.
* Garnish: if you want. Olives, pearl onion (just order a "Gibson" if you want this), or "with a twist" (slice of lemon peel).
So, for example:
"I'll have a dirty Stoli martini, up with two olives."
"I'll have a Most Wanted martini, dry and up."
or my typical order:
"A Plymouth martini, up with a twist, please."
Different folks will arrange the elements in their order differently. Do whatever works for you.
Don't bother with specifying "shaken" or "stirred." You'll sound like you just finished watching Goldfinger. If the bartender knows what he or she is doing, they'll stir it. If you ordered a dirty martini, then it doesn't matter anyway...the brine's just going to overpower everything.
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Next time you should just order a Manhattan. Your friend sounds like a badass. Most people that drink Manhattans are.
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Elements of a martini order:
* Amount of vermouth (wine that's had liquor added). If you don't specify, they should make it with at least one part vermouth for 3 parts gin/vodka. They probably won't--most bartenders these days seem to err on the dry side, thanks to the popularity of the dry martini. "Dry" means you want less vermouth. "Extra dry" or "very dry" means they should basically swish some vermouth around the glass and then dump it out. Some folks will order a martini "wet" to indicate that they don't want the bartender to skimp on the vermouth, but I've found that this can confuse servers. It's ultimately easier to just tell them not to be shy with the vermouth.
* Whether you want it "dirty," i.e., with olive brine. No real point in specifying a vermouth preference if you do this, as the brine taste will overpower the vermouth, anyway.
* Alcohol: gin or vodka. (Purists insist a "martini" means gin, and "vodka martini" must be specifically ordered. Better to just specify which these days.) Specify brand if you desire (you should).
* How you want it served: on the rocks (no), up/straight up (yes). Up and straight up are the same thing, means you don't want ice in the glass.
* Garnish: if you want. Olives, pearl onion (just order a "Gibson" if you want this), or "with a twist" (slice of lemon peel).
So, for example:
"I'll have a dirty Stoli martini, up with two olives."
"I'll have a Most Wanted martini, dry and up."
or my typical order:
"A Plymouth martini, up with a twist, please."
Different folks will arrange the elements in their order differently. Do whatever works for you.
Don't bother with specifying "shaken" or "stirred." You'll sound like you just finished watching Goldfinger. If the bartender knows what he or she is doing, they'll stir it. If you ordered a dirty martini, then it doesn't matter anyway...the brine's just going to overpower everything.
You sound really smart.
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One of the major drawbacks to Aggieville is that there is almost no chance of getting any of these drinks made right at any bar other that KatHouse and maybe So Long or Auntie Mae's. Also, Aggieville bartenders should learn the difference between a double and a tall.
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If you're in college, you need to just stick with the basics. Order a beer or a liquor w/ one mixer. Anything beyond that and you sound like you're trying to be all sophisticated and that's just dumb, especially when you're paying for the drink with mommy and daddy's money.
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sorry, not a drawback
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At Harold's last night ordered:
Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives
Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.
Thanks to all.
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At Harold's last night ordered:
Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives
Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.
Thanks to all.
Good job, Tortuga. :thumbs:
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At Harold's last night ordered:
Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives
Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.
Thanks to all.
i wouldn't have had the balls to order a dirty martini after absorbing the scorn that slimz heaped on the philistines that drink that crap.
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If you think I am going to be PI'd by a 110 lbs. squawk in Thai poker playing emaw clothing, you are mistaken.
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At Harold's last night ordered:
Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives
Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.
Thanks to all.
Do these even taste good?
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At Harold's last night ordered:
Ketel One
dirty
up
3 olives
Felt very comfortable, was pleased with the product, was asked for ID, would order again.
Thanks to all.
Do these even taste good?
I guess that depends on what tastes you like. Do you like the taste of olives and vodka?
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I'm ok with Vodka.
Olives can gtfoooomf. :blindfold:
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I'm ok with Vodka.
Olives can gtfoooomf. :blindfold:
you would not like at all
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I'm ok with Vodka.
Olives can gtfoooomf. :blindfold:
you would not like at all
Good to know, goEMAW saves that day again. :katpak:
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Just enjoyed a Bombay Sapphire Martini, on the rocks with a twist. Delicious.