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Title: more Ohio State...
Post by: The Manhatter on May 26, 2011, 10:47:53 AM
 :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:

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Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 26, 2011, 11:24:04 AM
Pay Rent?

Don't most full ride athletic scholarships include coverage of housing?

Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: The Manhatter on May 26, 2011, 11:34:14 AM
Pay Rent?

Don't most full ride athletic scholarships include coverage of housing?

Yes...but if you live in a dorm I believe the money goes straight from the athletic dept to pay the rent...if living in a campus apartment the athlete is given the money each month to cover their expenses...my guess is they aren't always judicious in their use of those funds.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: AbeFroman on May 26, 2011, 11:53:45 AM
 :zzz: :users:

Let me know when the NCAA actually does something. (other than missing a few games)
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: KSUBrian on May 26, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
:zzz: :users:

Let me know when the NCAA actually does something. (other than missing a few games)

Yeah, its like whatever.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: jtksu on May 26, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
Players get a stipend for living expenses each semester, not each month.  I could definitely see dudes not being smart and paying the semester's rent upfront.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: pike on May 26, 2011, 06:11:25 PM
If I got free money I would sure as hell spend it on booze and pot.....worry about rent later.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 26, 2011, 06:55:01 PM
Make the call Currie
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: MichiganisGood on May 26, 2011, 09:30:09 PM
 :thumbsup:

Tressel has cheated his entire coaching career, things come out about it all the time since he took over OSU, but somehow they always dodge the bullet..

Totally not getting my hopes up about anything other than the suspension coming from this but it's nice to see that the rest of the country is finally starting to pay attention and recognize the situation for what it is. Since Clarett in 03, they have had dozens of violations and former players speak out but they never get in trouble and nobody has ever seemed to care until now..
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 27, 2011, 12:32:33 AM
If I got free money I would sure as hell spend it on booze and pot.....worry about rent later.

If I'm a 5* recruit for OSU, I sure as hell am not paying rent.  Come try and evict me, [redacted].
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2011, 08:11:30 AM
Tressel Resigned  :surprised:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 30, 2011, 08:20:01 AM
Tressel Resigned  :surprised:

 :surprised:

 :pray:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: wetwillie on May 30, 2011, 08:31:20 AM
warm up the urban meyer to ohio state rumors
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: AppleJack on May 30, 2011, 08:45:11 AM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 30, 2011, 09:34:03 AM
warm up the urban meyer to ohio state rumors

You're missing the bigger picture...Tressel is available.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 30, 2011, 09:41:33 AM
It will be great when they call Patterson to replace Tressel and he tells them "GTFOOMF, I'm holding out for calmed waters."

 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: KITNfury on May 30, 2011, 11:42:22 AM
warm up the urban meyer to ohio state rumors

You're missing the bigger picture...Tressel is available.
I honestly don't think Tressel would come here if OB resigned also.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 30, 2011, 11:50:42 AM
warm up the urban meyer to ohio state rumors

You're missing the bigger picture...Tressel is available.
I honestly don't think Tressel would come here if OB resigned also.

I don't think you realize how much money we can throw at him.  We have meatgoat money now.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Winters on May 30, 2011, 12:40:49 PM
What a mess.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: cas4ksu on May 30, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
warm up the urban meyer to ohio state rumors

You're missing the bigger picture...Tressel is available.
I honestly don't think Tressel would come here if OB resigned also.

I don't think you realize how much money we can throw at him.  We have meatgoat money now.

Meatgoat, people. Meatgoat
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: MichiganisGood on May 30, 2011, 01:46:06 PM
 :emawkid: :D :grin: :cool: :lol: :thumbsup: :pbj: :woot: :party: :ksu: :excited:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Skipper44 on May 30, 2011, 02:05:21 PM
Congrats MiG
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: HawaiiCat on May 30, 2011, 02:30:52 PM
Now, OSU is free to blame all of the soon to be revealed violations on the coach who is no longer there. "Don't penalize us; it was him!"
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: MichiganisGood on May 30, 2011, 02:55:29 PM

1986: Youngstown State, trying to boost morale to the economically devastated region of northeast Ohio, hires Ohio State offensive assistant Jim Tressel as head coach.


If anyone has a couple hours to kill and would like to read on Tressel's shady as crap career..



November 17, 1987: Ohio State fires head coach Earle oscar after three straight losses. Four days later, oscar's final game as head coach is a win in Ann Arbor over Michigan.

December 31, 1987: Arizona State head coach John Cooper is hired by Ohio State to replace oscar. Conventional wisdom says Cooper became the most appealing candidate to Ohio State because of his victory over Michigan in the Rose Bowl 364 days earlier.

Spring, 1988: Quarterback and Youngstown native Ray Issac arrives at Youngstown State. Around this time, Tressel introduces Issac to Michael Monus, chairman of the Board of Trustees at Youngstown State and CEO of the drug store chain Phar-Mor. During their first meeting, Monus gives Issac 150 dollars, the first of what will become a habitual series of payments that will total roughly $10,000.

December 21, 1991: Isaac quarterbacks Youngstown State to a 25-17 win over Marshall in the I-AA National Championship Game.

July, 1992: Youngstown State chairman Michael Monus is indicted on fraud and embezzlement charges related to cooking the books at his drug store chain, Phar-Mor. The case would become known as one of the largest cases of corporate fraud in U.S. history. During the course of the investigation, Monus's relationship with Ray Isaac is brought to light. Tressel says he has no knowledge of Monus's payments to Isaac.

January, 1994: The NCAA delivers a notice of allegations to Youngstown State. Tressel, along with Youngstown State Athletic Director Joe Malsimur and Youngstown State President Leslie Cochran assure the NCAA that they will conduct a thorough internal investigation into the matter. This turns out to be a sham, as Malsimur never contacts Monus, and Tressel never speaks to Isaac. In December 2003, Tressel would claim that he can't recall whether or not he talked to Isaac about the allegations. Isaac says he never spoke to anyone.

December 18, 1995: Michael Monus is convicted of one count of conspiracy, two counts of bank fraud, five counts of wire fraud, two counts of mail fraud, two counts of filing false income tax returns, 96 counts of interstate transportation of stolen goods, and one count of obstruction of justice. He is sentenced to 19 and a half years in prison. Shortly before this, Monus and Isaac are both implicated in the bribing of a juror in Monus's first trial, which resulted in a hung jury. During this time, Isaac reaches out to Tressel for help, but Tressel distances himself, saying he doesn't want to know anything and Isaac should simply cooperate with authorities.

November 23, 1996: #21 Michigan, losers of their previous two games, beats 2nd-ranked and undefeated Ohio State 13-9 in Columbus, making this the third time in four years that Michigan has ruined an undefeated season for the Buckeyes. It is at this particular game in 1996 that Ohio State fans openly rebel against John Cooper, hurling insults and obscenities at him as he leaves the field.

March 4, 1998: During the course of Michael Monus's trial for jury tampering, more rules violations are exposed at Youngstown State. The NCAA accuses Youngstown State with lack of institutional control, one of the most serious violations in the NCAA. The NCAA determines that Youngstown State's internal investigation in 1994 was not thorough or in-depth.

February 28, 2000: The NCAA concludes its investigation, accepting Youngstown State's self-imposed penalties, which include a reduction of two scholarships in 2000-2001, 2001-2002, and 2002-2003. Because the NCAA's statute of limitations expired in 1996, they cannot take away Youngstown State's 1991 National Championship. The NCAA also chooses not to sanction Tressel.

January 2, 2001: John Cooper is fired by Ohio State the day after losing to South Carolina in the Outback Bowl. Cooper finishes his career at Ohio State with a 3-8 bowl record and a 2-10-1 record against Michigan.

January 17, 2001: Ohio State hires Jim Tressel away from Youngstown State to replace John Cooper as head coach. The next day, during halftime of the Michigan-Ohio State basketball game, Tressel delivers his famous line that has become Ohio State lore: "I can assure you that you will be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan."

January 20, 2001: Youngstown native Maurice Clarett, the star rusher for Harding High School in Warren (14 miles northwest of Youngstown) and the #1 running back recruit in the country, commits to play for Jim Tressel at Ohio State.

March 21, 2001: Ohio State cornerback Derek Ross is arrested on charges of driving without a license and providing false information to police. He is sentenced to 30 days in jail and suspended for the spring, but returns for the season and leads the Big Ten in interceptions.

November 15, 2001: Ohio State quarterback Steve Bellisari is arrested for driving drunk two days before OSU's game against Illinois. Tressel suspends him, only to reinstate him and allow him to play in the team's bowl game.

November 24, 2001: Tressel makes good on the promise he made 10 months earlier as Ohio State beats Michigan 26-20 in Ann Arbor. During the game, Maurice Clarett takes an official visit to Michigan on UM's dime, and spends the game on the Ohio State sideline cheering for the Buckeyes.

March 2, 2002: Ohio State tight end Redgie Arden is arrested for drunk driving. He spends three days in jail and is suspended from spring practices. Tressel reinstates him before the season and he plays in 11 games in 2002.

April 27, 2002: Ohio State linebacker Marco Cooper is arrested for felony drug abuse and carrying a concealed weapon. In November, he pleads out and is put on probation.

July 26, 2002: Ohio State fullback Branden Joe is discovered asleep in his car on a highway ramp near Ohio State's campus. He refuses a breathalyzer test, and is suspended for three weeks of preseason camp, along with the first game of the 2002 season.

July 29, 2002: Ohio State wide receiver Angelo Chattams is suspected of being involved in a theft, but prosecutors allow him to enter a program for first-time offenders and avoid a criminal charge. He is excused from the team, but never suspended.

August 17, 2002: Ohio State defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock is arrested for underage drinking. He is suspended for three weeks of offseason workouts, but is not suspended for any games.

August 24, 2002: Ohio State wide receiver Chris Vance is arrested for underage drinking. He is held out of the first two games, and goes on to be Ohio State's 4th leading receiver in the 2002 season.

October 13, 2002: Ohio State linebacker Fred Pagac, Jr. is arrested for persistant disorderly conduct. Arrested at 3:45 AM, police say he was intoxicated and had a role in a fight involving two women, and did not stop fighting when ordered by police. He is suspended for one game, and is allowed to play in the National Championship Game against Miami in January.

October 30, 2002: Ohio State long snapper Kurt Wilhelm is arrested for felonious assault. He is held out of Ohio State's game against Penn State.

April, 2003: Maurice Clarett files a report stating that a car he borrowed from a local dealership was broken into and thousands of dollars in cash, CDs, stereo equipment, and clothing was stolen. Clarett calls the police from a phone in Jim Tressel's office. He is later charged with lying about the value of the items and falsification of a police report. He pleads guilty, is ordered to pay a fine, and does no jail time.

May, 2003: Ohio State cornerback/receiver Chris Gamble and nine other players are ruled ineligible for signing autographs at a convention, during which they took an hourly salary.

June, 2003: Ohio State tight end Redgie Arden pleads innocent to his second drunk driving charge in 15 months.

Fall, 2003: The NCAA begins an investigation at Ohio State amid allegations of academic fraud and ineligibility. The investigation revolves around Maurice Clarett, and a teacher admits that Clarett received preferential treatment. The teacher is fired, and Clarett is found to be in violation of 14 conduct bylaws, two violations of receiving extra benefits because he is an athlete. The investigation also discovers that the Monte Carlo Clarett is driving was a loaner from a used-car lot. To make things worse, and forcing Ohio State's hand, is the fact that Clarett was regularly receiving benefits from Youngstown acquaintance Bobby Dellimuti. Dellimuti provided Clarett with 500 dollars in cash, and paid for thousands of dollars worth in cell phone bills for Clarett. Ohio State suspends him for the entire 2003 season. It is later revealed that Jim Tressel knew Dellimuti and knew who he was before Clarett's freshman season in 2002.

October 27, 2003: Ohio State tight end Louis Irizarry is arrested on three counts of first-degree misdemeanor assault. He is suspended two days later, and is found guilty of one count of assault, one count of negligent assault, and one count of disorderly conduct. He is put on probation, and is listed as second on the depth chart at tight end on Ohio State's spring 2004 roster.

November 16, 2003: Ohio State wide receiver Santonio Holmes and quarterback Troy Smith are arrested six days before the Michigan game on charges of misdemeanor disorderly conduct after a fight on campus in the early morning hours following Ohio State's win over Purdue. Holmes is held out of the starting lineup against Michigan, but plays the majority of the game and catches two touchdowns.

April, 2004: Ohio State fullback Branden Joe is cited for a misdemeanor open container violation, his second alcohol-related offense.

May 1, 2004: Ohio State tight end Louis Irizarry and cornerback Ira Guilford are arrested and charged with robbery after a student is assaulted and his wallet is stolen at 3 AM. They both plead innocent, and Guilford is released on bond, while Irizarry is held until the determination can be made whether or not he violated his probation from his October 2003 conviction.

May 5, 2004: Ohio State punter A.J. Trapasso is charged with underage drinking.

May 17, 2004: Ohio State punter A.J. Trapasso is arrested for underage drinking for the second time in 12 days.

June 7, 2004: Ohio State tight end Louis Irizarry is arrested for criminal trespassing after police pull him over and discover he has been banned from the campus of Ohio State.

October 23, 2004: Ohio State running back Lydell Ross is arrested for attempting to pass fake money to a woman at a gentlemen's club.

November 9, 2004: Maurice Clarett blows the whistle on Ohio State, attempting to expose all of the alleged corruption going on at his former school. He claims he "took the fall" during the 2003 investigation into his academics at Ohio State, and is now trying to clear his name. Clarett says that Jim Tressel arranged for Clarett to have access to several loaner vehicles, and that Tressel's brother Dick set up lucrative jobs that Clarett did not have to show up to. He also says that members of Tressel's staff introduced Clarett to boosters who provided him with cash benefits based on his performance on the field. Clarett says he would have been ineligible for the 2002 season, but that the Ohio State coaching staff set him up with an academic advisor whose only goal was to keep him eligible. He claims the academic advisor put him in Independent Study courses with hand-picked teachers who would pass him regardless of attendance. His allegations are corroborated by former Ohio State linebacker Marco Cooper. Cooper, who was kicked off the team because of multiple drug-related arrests, says he too was set up with fraudulent jobs and was provided with cars in exchange for signed memorabilia. Clarett says he is blowing the whistle on Ohio State because he feels they "blackballed" him from the university after suspending him for the 2003 season.

October 12, 2004: Louis Irizarry is sentenced to three years in prison.

December 20, 2004: Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith is suspended for the Alamo Bowl and the 2005 season opener for accepting $500 from a booster.

December 21, 2004: Ohio State wide receiver Albert Dukes is arrested on two felony counts of second-degree lewd and lascivious conduct involving a 12 year old girl. Tressel allows Dukes to travel with the team to the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio, and the charges are later dropped when the parents refuse to let their daughter testify in court.

February 16, 2005: The NCAA reprimands Ohio State offensive line coach Jim Bollman for trying to set up a recruit with a car, a loan, and a tutor. Jim Tressel is also reprimanded because Bollman is his subordinate.

May 11, 2005: Ohio State kicker Jonathan Skeete is arrested for drug trafficking. He is suspended.

May 19, 2005: Ohio State running back Erik Haw is cited by university police for smoking marijuana outside a dorm.

May 21, 2005: Ohio State lineman Tim Schafer is charged with disorderly conduct after police had to break up two fights between Schafer and another man. Both men were bloody and smelled of alcohol.

July 20, 2005: Ohio State athletic officials investigate a possible second NCAA rules violation by quarterback Troy Smith. Smith attended a quarterbacks camp run by Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair, but because Ohio State runs on quarters instead of semesters, Smith may have missed class to attend, which would be an NCAA violation. Jim Tressel declines comment, saying the university's compliance department has not finished its inquiry.

December 6, 2005: Police say that Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk and center Nick Mangold reported a burglary at their apartment following their win over Michigan. According to the police report, the robbery took place sometime between 6:00 PM on November 22 and 8:00 PM on November 23rd. Hawk and Mangold tell police that $3000 in cash, $1425 in movies, two laptop computers, a $500 Gucci watch, and $750 worth of PlayStation and X-Box equipment was stolen. Police were not told about the crime until November 28.

December 22, 2005: Ohio State offensive lineman Andree Tyree is suspended from the Fiesta Bowl for a violation of team rules. It is later revealed that Tyree failed his third drug test.

March 7, 2006: Former Ohio State kicker Jonathan Skeete returns to the team as a walk-on following his arrest on drug trafficking charges in May 2005. He was convicted in October 2005, and despite his status as a convicted felon, he is readmitted to the university and reinstated to the football team.

April 2, 2006: Ohio State offensive lineman Alex Boone is arrested after driving under the influence and being involved in a two-vehicle crash. Jim Tressel says that Boone will not be suspended for any practices or games.

August 9, 2006: Ohio State tight end Marcel Frost is suspended for the 2006 season for violating team rules. Although the athletic department refuses to comment on the nature of the violation, spokesman Dan Wallenberg says Frost will remain on scholarship and be eligible to return in 2007.

September 18, 2007: Ohio State wide receiver Ray Small is arrested for driving with a suspended license.

September 24, 2007: Ohio State quarterback Antonio Henton is arrested for soliciting a prostitute.

December 12, 2007: Jeannette, Pennsylvania businessman Ted Sarniak is cleared of allegations of bribery as a result of police opting not to arrest Sarniak in October 2006 when he crashed his car into a utility pole following the Jeannette-Catholic Central football game. Sarniak smelled of alcohol, but was not taken into custody. Though cleared of the bribery accusations, Sarniak has a documented history of providing Pittsburgh Steelers football tickets and other gifts to police officers in Jeannette.

December 20, 2007: Ohio State cornerback Eugene Clifford is suspended for violating team rules.

January 17, 2008: The night before heralded Jeannette quarterback Terrelle Pryor takes an official visit to Michigan, Ohio State coaches have dinner with Jeannette businessman Ted Sarniak, who is a friend and mentor to Pryor.

March 19, 2008: Terrelle Pryor signs with Ohio State.

April 11, 2008: Ohio State defensive backs Eugene Clifford, Jamario O'Neal, and Donald Washington are held out of practice but not officially suspended. It is rumored that all three players failed drug tests.

July 7, 2008: Ohio State defensive back Eugene Clifford's career at OSU ends, as he is arrested again, this time for assault after allegedly punching two men in the face. He transfers to Tennessee State later in the month.

July 26, 2008: Ohio State defensive tackle Doug Worthington is arrested and charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated. He misses no game action in the 2008 season.

December 11, 2008: Ohio State defensive end Nathan Williams is arrested for shoplifting. He receives no punishment other than "internal" from the coaches.

February 2, 2009: Ohio State offensive lineman Alex Boone is arrested after being belligerant and uncooperative with police while he jumps on car hoods in a drunken tirade. Boone flees from police, who find him under a patio and have to taze him to subdue him.

June 11, 2009: Ohio State running back recruit Jaamal Berry is arrested for felony possession of marijuana in Miami. He pleas down and agrees to take a six-month drug program online in exchange for having the charges dropped. He is allowed to enroll at Ohio State and join the football team without issue.

September 9, 2009: It is discovered that violations were committed during Ohio State's recruitment of quarterback Terrelle Pryor. Pryor's official visit to Ohio State for the game against Wisconsin in 2007 came with a discounted hotel rate. The other violation involves former Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith working at an Ohio State football camp in the summer of 2007, during which time Smith encourages Pryor to pick Ohio State. As a result of the hotel violation, Pryor is quietly ruled ineligible in August 2009 until he repays $158. Ohio State files a request to the NCAA to reinstate Pryor on August 21, and he regains his eligibility in time for the season opener on August 30.

April 2, 2010, 2:32 PM: Jim Tressel receives an email from Chris Cicero, a Columbus attorney. Cicero informs Tressel that several players have been selling signed items to tattoo parlor owner Edward Rife, who is under heavy investigation from the authorities on suspicion of drug trafficking. Rife informs Tressel of all of this, and details Rife's criminal history.

April 2, 2010, 6:32 PM: Tressel responds to Cicero's email, telling him he will "get on it ASAP."

April 16, 2010, 9:43 AM: Cicero emails Tressel again, giving details of cleats, jerseys, Big Ten championship rings and a national championship ring being sold.

April 16, 2010, 11:20 AM: Tressel responds to Cicero once more: "I hear you!! It is unbelievable!! Thanks for your help keep me posted as to what I need to do if anything. I will keep pounding these kids hoping they grow up. jt"

April 16, 2010, 2:26 PM: Cicero recommends that Tressel ban his players from going to the tattoo parlor and having any contact with Rife. He asks that Tressel keep their email communication private.

June 1, 2010, 7:33 AM: Tressel emails Cicero, informing him that the team will be receiving their 2009 Big Ten Championship rings, and asks if there are anymore names that Cicero can give him.

June 1, 2010, 4:09 PM: Cicero tells Tressel he has no new names, but that the names he gave him previously "are still good."

June 6, 2010, 9:15 PM: Five days later, Tressel thanks Cicero in what is their last known communication.

September 13, 2010: Jim Tressel signs an NCAA certificate of compliance, which indicates that he has reported any knowledge of any violations.

December 7, 2010: Authorities contact Ohio State, notifying them that they have raided Rife's tattoo parlor, and discovered several Ohio State items. The authorities, obviously unaware of any NCAA implications, are simply inquiring as to whether or not the items may have been stolen. The Ohio State athletic department is notified of this the next day.

December 9, 2010: Jim Tressel is informed that federal officials know about the items. Tressel still does not inform his superiors of his email exchanges with Chris Cicero. During the next week, Ohio State plans an internal investigation into the matter.

December 16, 2010: Ohio State interviews the six players implicated: quarterback Terrelle Pryor, running back Daniel Herron, wide receiver DeVier Posey, offensive tackle Mike Adams, defensive end Solomon Thomas, and linebacker Jordan Whiting.

December 17, 2010: Ohio State informs the Big Ten and the NCAA that they are preparing to self-report violations.

December 19, 2010: Ohio State releases its report, and declares the six players ineligible.

December 21, 2010: The NCAA contacts the six players, asking for additional information. Ohio State provides this information the next day.

December 22, 2010: The NCAA notifies Ohio State of its decision: 5-game suspensions for Pryor, Herron, Posey, Adams, and Thomas, and one game for Whiting. Incredulously, all six players are allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl on January 4.

December 23, 2010: Jim Tressel and Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith hold a press conference, announcing the findings and sanctions.

January 13, 2011: Ohio State's office of legal affairs stumble upon Tressel's email correspondence with Chris Cicero. They conduct a search of the email accounts of all members of the football staff, and discover that no one else knew of the players' contact with Edward Rife before December 2010.

January 16, 2011: Jim Tressel is questioned by Ohio State officials, and he acknowledges his contact with Chris Cicero.

February 2, 2011: Ohio State offensive lineman recruit Chris Carter is arrested the day before Signing Day on a charge of sexual imposition. He is accused of fondling up to eight girls at his high school under the pretense of measuring them for ROTC uniforms. Despite having a confession from Carter, authorities drop the charges five days later, and Carter is allowed to sign with Ohio State.

February 8, 2011: During an interview with NCAA and Ohio State officials, Jim Tressel admits that he knew violations were committed when he did not report what Cicero told him.

March 7, 2011: Yahoo! Sports reports that a source has told them that Jim Tressel knew of the violations in April 2010 and did not tell anyone else. Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith accelerates the process of the completion of the university's self-report.

March 8, 2011: Ohio State releases its report, disclosing Tressel's violation and announcing a two-game suspension and $250,000 fine for the head coach.

March 17, 2011: Ohio State and Jim Tressel announce that the two-game suspension will be increased to five.

March 25, 2011: It is revealed that Jim Tressel in fact didn't keep the email correspondence with Chris Cicero all to himself. He forwarded the emails to Ted Sarniak, the Jeannette businessman with an affinity for giving gifts to police officers, and friend and mentor of Terrelle Pryor from Pryor's days as the #1 recruit in the nation at Jeannette High School.

April 25, 2011: The NCAA delivers a notice of allegations to Ohio State and Tressel, accusing Tressel of failing to "deport himself in accordance with the honesty and integrity normally associated with the conduct and administration of intercollegiate athletics as required by NCAA legislation and violated ethical-conduct legislation when he failed to report information concerning violations of NCAA legislation and permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics competition while ineligible."

May 1, 2011: Ohio State linebacker Dorian Bell is suspended for the entire 2011 season for an unspecified violation of team rules, with all rumors pointing to a persistant marijuana issue. Bell immediately leaves school with the intent to transfer; his hometown Pitt Panthers turn him away.

May 7, 2011: The Columbus Dispatch reports that Ohio State will investigate used-car purchases by dozens of Ohio State athletes at two Columbus car dealerships. The Dispatch discovers that at least eight athletes and 11 athletes' relatives bought used cars from two specific dealerships during the past five years.

May 23, 2011: Former Ohio State basketball player Mark Titus posts a lengthy blog post detailing his eyewitness accounts of "an unusually high volume of brand new Dodge Chargers driving around on campus, and just about all of them had tinted windows and rims on the outside with Ohio State football players behind the wheel on the inside."

May 25, 2011: Former Ohio State receiver Ray Small tells the Ohio State student newspaper that he sold items for cash during his time at Ohio State, and he also mentions that "the best deals came from the car dealerships." After facing blistering criticism from former and current Ohio State players, in addition to Ohio State fans, Small backtracks on his story, saying the newspaper twisted his words.

May 27, 2011: Ohio State announces that it will not disclose the correspondence between Jim Tressel and the Jeannette businessman, Ted Sarniak.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: pike on May 30, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
cliff notes please
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Trim on May 30, 2011, 03:27:46 PM
You were due for one of these.

:DNR:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: AbeFroman on May 30, 2011, 10:10:34 PM
Kirk Herbstriet sounds like someone killed his mom on ESPN. It sounds like he is devestated. Also, the first thing he said in his interview (without being asked) is that Jim Tressell has the upmost respect for soldiers and him announcing his resignation today must not have been his choice.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 30, 2011, 10:29:40 PM
Kirk Herbstriet sounds like someone killed his mom on ESPN. It sounds like he is devestated. Also, the first thing he said in his interview (without being asked) is that Jim Tressell has the upmost respect for soldiers and him announcing his resignation today must not have been his choice.

This.

Herbstriet is sounding like a rough ridin' idiot on every conference call ESPN puts him on.  He is probably the only analyst who thinks Jim Tressell got the bad end of the stick.  Even other analysts are calling out his bullshit.  Herbstriet said that Tressell lied to protect his players.  I'm sure saving his reputation and 3.8 million salary had nothing to do with it...
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: MichiganisGood on May 30, 2011, 11:06:24 PM
cliff notes please

He's been cheating his whole career, getting caught or having the whistle blown on him, and somehow coming out unscathed wrt major NCAA violations, until now..

He's had literally the same cheating infrastructure his whole career, and while some players have taken hits from the NCAA for it he always stayed above the fray, until the emails..


Michigan fans have been aware of all this crap the entire time, but everyone would just write it off as 'you're just mad that they beat you'.. Granted, we were mad that they beat us, but we thought they were cheating because it was blatantly obvious they were cheating not because they were beating us.. MSU has beaten us 3 times in a row, and although I care far less about that rivalry losing to them is 10x worse than losing to OSU but were not accusing them of cheating because we have no reason to..


The newest stuff that will hopefully come out is the Ted Sarniak/Pryor stuff.. Sarniak is known to you as the guy Tress forwarded to initial email too when he got busted lying about 'he told nobody for fear of violating confidentiality..

During the Pryor recruitment, TP made some comments that UofM had moved to #1 on his list and immediately scheduled a visit once we hired RR.. The night before that visit came to fruition Tressel traveled to Jeanette PA and had dinner with Ted Sarniak an OSU booster, the next thing you know there are pictures surfacing of Pryor with Sarniak's Corvette and Sarniak becomes Pryor's 'mentor'.. Pryor goes to OSU and after repaying 150 bucks back to Sarniak the NCAA deemed him elgible and nothing was heard of it again.. Until they discovered that the ONLY person Tressel told about this Tat5 stuff was Sarniak, and OSU is refusing to share with the media or NCAA the emails between Sarniak and Pryor or their relationship..

Pryor was bought and paid for  OSU through Sarniak and Sarniak is still giving him money to this very day.. It's plain as day, to anyone who has followed this at all..
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2011, 09:45:02 AM
I hope this winds it's way into making MU seriously sweat. 

Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 31, 2011, 10:24:09 AM
Only read through part of that list MisGood posted.

But gotta say, big props to JT for going light on star players who commit crimes, and a major  :thumbsup: for his willingness to cheat. 

Somebody start designing some K-State sweater vests for the man.


Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 31, 2011, 10:42:51 AM
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Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Trim on May 31, 2011, 12:27:18 PM
THE BUCKEYES WILL BE EXPOSED
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Bookcat on May 31, 2011, 12:46:40 PM
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the guy is a damn genius.  :surprised:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Bill Clarahan on May 31, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
THE BUCKEYES WILL BE EXPOSED


I laughed

Also, why can't we cheat even %30 of the level OSU does. :ck:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: ArchE_Cat on May 31, 2011, 02:26:11 PM
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Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Ira Hayes on May 31, 2011, 02:27:39 PM
And you dumbasses think it is a bad thing that we have a coach who is too old to figure out how to work the emails?
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: MadCat on May 31, 2011, 02:46:54 PM
THE BUCKEYES WILL BE EXPOSED


I laughed

Also, why can't we cheat even %30 of the level OSU does. :ck:

Fewer resources/$$$$
You can't recruit to Manhattan, KS
Cosmic rays
 :dunno:
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: catzacker on May 31, 2011, 03:56:43 PM
And you dumbasses think it is a bad thing that we have a coach who is too old to figure out how to work the emails AND HASN'T WON 7 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND ONE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP?

fyp
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: kyles on May 31, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
THE BUCKEYES WILL BE EXPOSED


I laughed

Also, why can't we cheat even %30 of the level OSU does. :ck:

Fewer resources/$$$$
You can't recruit to Manhattan, KS
Cosmic rays
 :dunno:

Thats why you cheat. Who the fack wants to actually live in Ohio?
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: ben ji on June 01, 2011, 12:17:37 PM
Pryor shows up to the team meeting where Tressel announces his resignation driving a Nissan 350z....
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 01, 2011, 12:28:23 PM
Pryor shows up to the team meeting where Tressel announces his resignation driving a Nissan 350z....

one that was purchased 6 days ago...
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 01, 2011, 01:42:46 PM
Pryor shows up to the team meeting where Tressel announces his resignation driving a Nissan 350z....

This is so goddam impressive. 

Dear NCAA-

Suck my butt.

Love, T. Pryor
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: bigwillie20 on June 01, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
 :lol:

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Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: AbeFroman on June 01, 2011, 01:50:22 PM
Pryor shows up to the team meeting where Tressel announces his resignation driving a Nissan 350z....

rough ridin' genius.

NCAA: "What the eff is wrong with you? You drive up in a 6 day old car, that you can't afford, to a meeting where your coach is telling you he's quitting because he's been caught doing major cheating. That doesn't make sense"

Pryor: "You're right, that doesn't make sense. Which is exactly why I did it. Nobody could be that stupid. Thus, that proves I didn't cheat"

NCAA: "hmmmm, that seems plausible."
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: jtksu on June 01, 2011, 02:35:40 PM
If it's a 350Z, it's older than six days.  He may well have just bought a used 350Z six days ago though...
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 01, 2011, 03:28:43 PM
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http://mgoblog.com/content/driving-cars-pryor
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Kat Kid on June 01, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
I like that Michigan has its own sonofdaxjones/Manhatter meticulously compiling dated dossiers that everyone can copy/paste on to BBS's to fillibuster-troll people.

It makes me think the world has some sort of order to it.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 01, 2011, 03:47:27 PM
did not realize JT cheated his ass off so much.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: bradleigh on June 01, 2011, 11:15:17 PM
I wish someone would write one of those things for Snyds.  I could only make it through like 25% of that one, but I had yet to find anything of substance.  There is enough player misconduct in the DOD to make a pretty good list.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: MichiganisGood on June 01, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
I wish someone would write one of those things for Snyds.  I could only make it through like 25% of that one, but I had yet to find anything of substance.  There is enough player misconduct in the DOD to make a pretty good list.

Put it this way, his 4 best players (Isaacs, Clarett, T.Smith, Pryor) have all been convicted of receiving improper benefits, it's still to be determined on Pryor but the other 3 nothing stuck to Tressel because when the NCAA investigators came around trying hammer JT's nuts to a wall suddenly everybody forgot about what had happened..

He has cheated his ass off his entire career, the other stuff on that list for player misconduct is stupid, every program has multiple players doing stupid crap like getting drunk and beating women.. I wouldn't have included that on the list myself, but I didn't feel like going through it and taking all of those parts out, I'm lazy.. And that cuts into my internet porn time..
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: Kat Kid on June 01, 2011, 11:27:17 PM
I wish someone would write one of those things for Snyds.  I could only make it through like 25% of that one, but I had yet to find anything of substance.  There is enough player misconduct in the DOD to make a pretty good list.

squawk outed.
Title: Re: more Ohio State...
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 02, 2011, 12:18:56 AM
I wish someone would write one of those things for Snyds.  I could only make it through like 25% of that one, but I had yet to find anything of substance.  There is enough player misconduct in the DOD to make a pretty good list.

Put it this way, his 4 best players (Isaacs, Clarett, T.Smith, Pryor) have all been convicted of receiving improper benefits, it's still to be determined on Pryor but the other 3 nothing stuck to Tressel because when the NCAA investigators came around trying hammer JT's nuts to a wall suddenly everybody forgot about what had happened..

He has cheated his ass off his entire career, the other stuff on that list for player misconduct is stupid, every program has multiple players doing stupid crap like getting drunk and beating women.. I wouldn't have included that on the list myself, but I didn't feel like going through it and taking all of those parts out, I'm lazy.. And that cuts into my internet porn time..

I wish we had more of it.