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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: WillieWatanabe on February 22, 2010, 01:31:51 PM
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Who ya got?
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If KU goes undefeated it'll probably go to one of them. But James Anderson has been phenomenal.
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James Anderson
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I've seen too many KU games in person with Sherron Collins playing to not vote for him.
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i have no problem with anderson, james, collins or aldrich getting it. those 4 on the same team :love:
who plays SF though? James and then who plays PF? Brackins?
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Lotta crazy stuff could happen in the Big 12 tourney, could change some minds.
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Why isn't Cole Aldrich an option?
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Why isn't Cole Aldrich an option?
you need to ask cole that
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James Anderson
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Why isn't Cole Aldrich an option?
you need to ask cole that
pffft...
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Why isn't Cole Aldrich an option?
It was either Sherron "love in an elevator" Collins or Cole "wind between my teeth" Aldrich :dunno:
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I'd rather kick a ball throw the uprights of Aldridge.
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Why isn't Cole Aldrich an option?
you need to ask cole that
:lol:
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Cole Aldrich is the most valuable player in the Big 12. The first-team All Big 12 team will be:
PG - Collins
SG- Pullen
SF - Anderson
PF - Udoh
C - Aldrich
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Cole Aldrich is the most valuable player in the Big 12. The first-team All Big 12 team will be:
PG - Collins
SG- Pullen
SF - Anderson
PF - Udoh
C - Aldrich
Would agree with you if it wasn't for the extended slump he went through at the beginning of Big 12 play.
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His slump was on the offensive side of the ball... his defensive presence alone completely changes a game.
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His slump was on the offensive side of the ball... his defensive presence alone completely changes a game.
Tell that to Tennessee.
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His slump was on the offensive side of the ball... his defensive presence alone completely changes a game.
Tell that to Tennessee.
So you pick the one loss for KU on the entire season to make your point? Good grief you people are delusional.
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Cole Aldrich is the most valuable player in the Big 12. The first-team All Big 12 team will be:
PG - Collins
SG- Pullen
SF - Anderson
PF - Udoh
C - Aldrich
If i had made a MVP poll....you might be right. But I didn't.
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Cole Aldrich is the most valuable player in the Big 12. The first-team All Big 12 team will be:
PG - Collins
SG- Pullen
SF - Anderson
PF - Udoh
C - Aldrich
More like Ud-no. amirite?
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Cole Aldrich is the most valuable player in the Big 12. The first-team All Big 12 team will be:
PG - Collins
SG- Pullen
SF - Anderson
PF - Udoh
C - Aldrich
More like Ud-no. amirite?
Yeah... I probably should have put Damion James in that spot.
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Anderson hands down. Without him OSU is complete sh1t.
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I applied the Elmore Index to some of the dudes in this pole just to see how they calculated.
PPG x 5
R x 3
A x 2
S x 2
B x 2
Team Wins x 5
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http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/710/elmoreindex.jpg
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I applied the Elmore Index to some of the dudes in this pole just to see how they calculated.
PPG x 5
R x 3
A x 2
S x 2
B x 2
Team Wins x 5
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http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/710/elmoreindex.jpg
whoa there, clams busting out the spreadsheets.
remember when you guys made me think clams died? :curse:
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
kind of surprised ku fans are choosing aldrich over collins tbh.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
I think he is both.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
I think he is both.
You think wrong.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
Yes, I believe I know what you are saying.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
if anything then, Cole would be my POTY and Collins the MVP.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
if anything then, Cole would be my POTY and Collins the MVP.
collins is w/o a question the most valuable player to his team and their success this year in the big 12
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Anderson is LOL'ing at all of you
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Anderson is LOL'ing at all of you
7th place in the league is laughing at Anderson
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
There is a difference between MVP and POTY imo and Cole might be the MVP but not the POTY, you know?
if anything then, Cole would be my POTY and Collins the MVP.
No. Cole MVP, Collins POTY.
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
Do we have to keep showing Aldrich's dunk against Fort Hays State when they were down by 2??
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and quite frankly it isn't even close.
kind of surprised ku fans are choosing aldrich over collins tbh.
racists :opcat:
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Cole Aldrich is the most valuable player in the Big 12. The first-team All Big 12 team will be:
PG - Collins
SG- Pullen
SF - Anderson
PF - Udoh
C - Aldrich
More like Ud-no. amirite?
Udoh is like Aldrich with an offensive skill set. Udoh averages more points, blocks, rebounds, and about 10 minutes more a game.
Anyone that thinks Aldrich is MVP or POY is high out of their mind.
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1st Team all big 12
PG- Sherron Collins
SG- Jacob Pullen
SF- James Anderson
PF- Ekpe Udoh
C- Cole Aldrich
Big 12 POTY
1- Collins/pullen
2- Collins/pullen
3- James Anderson
4- Cole Aldrich
5- Ekpe Udoh
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Anderson is LOL'ing at all of you
7th place in the league is laughing at Anderson
QFT
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Yeah, OSU may have played Anderson out of contention. It's pretty much Collins out there on an island right now.
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Yeah, OSU may have played Anderson out of contention. It's pretty much Collins out there on an island right now.
if it has to be a ku player, it's definitely aldrich. there's no way to make a case for collins.
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Yeah, OSU may have played Anderson out of contention. It's pretty much Collins out there on an island right now.
if it has to be a ku player, it's definitely aldrich. there's no way to make a case for collins.
Leading scorer and leader on the #1 team in the country. Best point guard in the modern era of KU basketball, and winningest player in KU basketball history.
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Leading scorer and leader on the #1 team in the country. Best point guard in the modern era of KU basketball, and winningest player in KU basketball history.
relatively pedestrian offensive efficiency/usage (average defender, average distributor). vs by far the most dominant defender in the conference, an elite rebounder and a competent post scorer.
you can make a better case for m. morris than collins.
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Another reason why awards like this are for 'tards to get off on. It's "player" of the year, not "team" of the year. Anderson is the best player in the conference and it isn't even close.
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Another reason why awards like this are for 'tards to get off on. It's "player" of the year, not "team" of the year. Anderson is the best player in the conference and it isn't even close.
Also if "year" is in the name (and it is), all of those career stats that Beemer is talking about shouldn't mean anything.
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I think it's laughable that some people think Collins is the POTY.
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Yeah, OSU may have played Anderson out of contention. It's pretty much Collins out there on an island right now.
if it has to be a ku player, it's definitely aldrich. there's no way to make a case for collins.
Leading scorer and leader on the #1 team in the country. Best point guard in the modern era of KU basketball, and winningest player in KU basketball history.
those are nice for ku fans but don't factor in the POTY discussion.
i'd vote for collins though. when he wants to be, he's unstoppable. aldrich, while a fairly dominant center in an age of non-centers, relies upon collins to accomplish what he does.
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Evan Turner anyone? Arguably the most complete basketball player in the nation
:facepalm:
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Evan Turner anyone? Arguably the most complete basketball player in the nation
:comehere:
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Evan Turner anyone? Arguably the most complete basketball player in the nation
:facepalm:
:facepalm:
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Hey Beams (since I know you're watching this board during your team's game)
What do you think about Anderson now? :lol:
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Hey Beams (since I know you're watching this board during your team's game)
What do you think about Anderson now? :lol:
crap, he is gonna crawl back into his cave (boyfriends bad person) for awhile now.
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Hey Beams (since I know you're watching this board during your team's game)
What do you think about Anderson now? :lol:
Karma is being very rude to Ben right now.
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Hey Beams (since I know you're watching this board during your team's game)
What do you think about Anderson now? :lol:
Oh snap
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Evan Turner anyone? Arguably the most complete basketball player in the nation
LOL
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Evan Turner anyone? Arguably the most complete basketball player in the nation
LOL
19.7ppg 9.2rpg 5.8apg .537fg% 0.8BPG
he runs the PG/SG/SF/and the PF position for them. I dont see whats so laughable about it.
This thread is titled Big 12 POTY, jesus rough ridin' christ.
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Yeah, OSU may have played Anderson out of contention. It's pretty much Collins out there on an island right now.
if it has to be a ku player, it's definitely aldrich. there's no way to make a case for collins.
Best point guard in the modern era of KU basketball
Jacque (sp?) Vaughn was a better PG than collins. adonis jordan might have been as well. they werent better overall players but when you are talking about point guards im not even sure you can really count collins as one...
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also i voted for pullen b/c i can but anderson is the best player in the conference. whether or not he gets the award is another story.
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Evan Turner anyone? Arguably the most complete basketball player in the nation
LOL
19.7ppg 9.2rpg 5.8apg .537fg% 0.8BPG
he runs the PG/SG/SF/and the PF position for them. I dont see whats so laughable about it.
This thread is titled Big 12 POTY, jesus fracking christ.
i was asking NPOTY. Since there isnt a thread about that. I think i'll start it