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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Saulbadguy on April 27, 2011, 08:55:30 AM
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/
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Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Trump said, "I have accomplished something nobody else has accomplished."
"I want to look at it, but I hope it’s true," he added. "He should have done it a long time ago. I am really honored to have played such a big role in hopefully getting rid of this issue."
Yes, Donald, you are quite the patriot.
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And to answer the original question, I wouldn't change the name. Those who associated themselves as birthers should wear that badge of idiocy proudly.
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Love it. All the morons who have hinged their reputation (political and otherwise) on a racist pipedream now look like fools, once and for all.
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birthers. boom, roasted. now that that pressing issue is over, lets fix crap :cheers:
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birthers. boom, roasted. now that that pressing issue is over, lets fix crap :cheers:
Paul Ryan is trying. Now if hairy read would get out of his way.
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Love it. All the morons who have hinged their reputation (political and otherwise) on a racist pipedream now look like fools, once and for all.
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And to answer the original question, I wouldn't change the name. Those who associated themselves as birthers should wear that badge of idiocy proudly.
pike, dax, and pretty much nobody else. Maybe some comments that were more as jabs to irritate the 'bots by others.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
Or the "msm" for not doing due diligence.
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THIS LOOKS SHOPPED. I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME
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THIS LOOKS SHOPPED. I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME
It's clear it was a fake. Explain how the paper is cut and folds down. If it was scanned then it should be flat. All this did was give the northers more ammo. Exactly what The President wants more distractions, wag the dog!
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
The fact that he caved to these rubes makes him an idiot. No matter what he does they'll keep moving the goalposts.
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I wish the president was forced to answer to every racist dumbass group that demanded an answer from him. Amendment?
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
He was letting fools make themselves look like fools.
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
The fact that he caved to these rubes makes him an idiot. No matter what he does they'll keep moving the goalposts.
This president responds to poll numbers. The longer he waited, the more people were questioning why he didn't just show it and get it over with. Even his supporters were starting to wonder.
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
The fact that he caved to these rubes makes him an idiot. No matter what he does they'll keep moving the goalposts.
This president responds to poll numbers. The longer he waited, the more people were questioning why he didn't just show it and get it over with. Even his supporters were starting to wonder.
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I wish the president was forced to answer to every racist dumbass group that demanded an answer from him. Amendment?
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
He should have waited until right before the election to release it.
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lol @ you birther dipshits who are backpedaling now. :emawkid:
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lol @ you birther dipshits who are backpedaling now. :emawkid:
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I could really give a eff less if the dude is a citizen or not but it is pretty weird that he waited this lonng to provide documentation.
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I could really give a eff less if the dude is a citizen or not but it is pretty weird that he waited this lonng to provide documentation.
No matter what or when he issued something, it will just redirect the weirdos in a new direction. Birthers are prob formulating the most feasible theory on how it was faked right now.
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True but there's really no reason (that I can see) to give those retards more ammo.
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Ever heard that quote that goes something like, "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"? By drawing it out this long only to eventually lay the hammer down, Obama let his opposition run their mouths for the better part of three years. A pretty elite way to make them dig themselves a giant hole of stupidity, if you ask me.
:cheers:, Barry!
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Still doesn't change the fact that his administration is jimmy carter on steroids.
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But, but, but... his middle name is HUSSEIN!!!!
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And to answer the original question, I wouldn't change the name. Those who associated themselves as birthers should wear that badge of idiocy proudly.
pike, dax, and pretty much nobody else. Maybe some comments that were more as jabs to irritate the 'bots by others.
Don't believe I ever took a stance on birtherism since it's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) non issue, but thanks for playing.
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And to answer the original question, I wouldn't change the name. Those who associated themselves as birthers should wear that badge of idiocy proudly.
pike, dax, and pretty much nobody else. Maybe some comments that were more as jabs to irritate the 'bots by others.
Don't believe I ever took a stance on birtherism since it's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) non issue, but thanks for playing.
Thought you did. My bad. :blush:
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But, but, but... his middle name is Faroukmanesh!!!!
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But, but, but... his middle name is Faroukmanesh!!!!
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obama may be the bigger idiot for letting it go on for so long.
The fact that he caved to these rubes makes him an idiot. No matter what he does they'll keep moving the goalposts.
This president responds to poll numbers. The longer he waited, the more people were questioning why he didn't just show it and get it over with. Even his supporters were starting to wonder.
No one with a functioning brain ever had a doubt that he was a US citizen.
Does everyone really think that we'd inaugurate a president without a birth certificate? Really? He just showed up on Pennsylvania Ave. and handed over his driver's license and student ID and everyone said, "Yeah, we good."
Anyone who had one shred of doubt is a conspiracy theorist or an idiot. I don't care what someone thinks of his policies, but if they thought that we'd just let him run the country for two years without having proof of being born in the US, well, that person is a rough ridin' idiot, and I'm being kind.
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Ever heard that quote that goes something like, "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"? By drawing it out this long only to eventually lay the hammer down, Obama let his opposition run their mouths for the better part of three years. A pretty elite way to make them dig themselves a giant hole of stupidity, if you ask me.
:cheers:, Barry!
The only reason anyone ever asked for proof of a birth certificate in the first place was because he was a black guy with a foreign sounding name. It would have happened to any Hispanic candidate/president as well.
However, if he was a white guy named Hans Gruber, no one would have said one word. We basically just proved to ourselves (and anyone else in the world) that we're still a country full of backasswards hick racists.
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It's never safe to assume that 'they' checked it out. Whoever they may be, that you don't specify, because you don't know. Some birthers are racists, some genuinely believe that he wasn't born in the US based on questions about his past.
If anything, I kind of like the fact that there are people out there who aren't afraid to suffer extreme public ridicule just to ask basic questions such as this.
But yes, quite a bit of racists were bound to latch onto it.
That said, I never once thought he was anything but a US citizen.
Also, it appears some are calling into question aspects of this new birth certificate. Read all about it. (http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185094)
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This is a big victory for the birthers in my opinion. After 2 years of wondering Donal Trump brings him to his knees.
Hilarious. :lol: :lol: :lol: This guy can't get any more pathetic.
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This is a big victory for the birthers in my opinion. After 2 years of wondering Donal Trump brings him to his knees.
Hilarious. :lol: :lol: :lol: This guy can't get any more pathetic.
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This is a big victory for the birthers in my opinion. After 2 years of wondering Donal Trump brings him to his knees.
Yeah, that's what happened.
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Obama is really really f*cking good.
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Obama is really really f*cking good.
Yeah
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http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/28/birther_poll/index.html (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/28/birther_poll/index.html)
An alarming poll from CBS News and the New York Times last week found that nearly 70 percent of Republicans either believed President Obama wasn't born on American soil or weren't sure.
Now, in the wake of President Obama's decision to release his long-form birth certificate Tuesday morning, there is a bit of encouraging news: According to a snap poll conducted by Survey USA, 24 percent of Republicans say that doubts they previously had about where Obama was born have been erased and that they are now satisfied that their president was born here.
But there is also discouraging news: More than half of Republicans still aren't buying Obama's story. 18 percent of them told Survey USA that they consider the long-form a forgery, and another 33 percent say they still have doubt. Moreover, nearly 60 percent of Republicans say that they either still consider Obama's birthplace to be open to debate or aren't sure, and 33 percent claim that the president was "definitely" or "probably" born elsewhere.
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http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/28/birther_poll/index.html (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/28/birther_poll/index.html)
An alarming poll from CBS News and the New York Times last week found that nearly 70 percent of Republicans either believed President Obama wasn't born on American soil or weren't sure.
Now, in the wake of President Obama's decision to release his long-form birth certificate Tuesday morning, there is a bit of encouraging news: According to a snap poll conducted by Survey USA, 24 percent of Republicans say that doubts they previously had about where Obama was born have been erased and that they are now satisfied that their president was born here.
But there is also discouraging news: More than half of Republicans still aren't buying Obama's story. 18 percent of them told Survey USA that they consider the long-form a forgery, and another 33 percent say they still have doubt. Moreover, nearly 60 percent of Republicans say that they either still consider Obama's birthplace to be open to debate or aren't sure, and 33 percent claim that the president was "definitely" or "probably" born elsewhere.
racism alive and well, water is wet, etc.
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http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/28/birther_poll/index.html (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/28/birther_poll/index.html)
An alarming poll from CBS News and the New York Times last week found that nearly 70 percent of Republicans either believed President Obama wasn't born on American soil or weren't sure.
Now, in the wake of President Obama's decision to release his long-form birth certificate Tuesday morning, there is a bit of encouraging news: According to a snap poll conducted by Survey USA, 24 percent of Republicans say that doubts they previously had about where Obama was born have been erased and that they are now satisfied that their president was born here.
But there is also discouraging news: More than half of Republicans still aren't buying Obama's story. 18 percent of them told Survey USA that they consider the long-form a forgery, and another 33 percent say they still have doubt. Moreover, nearly 60 percent of Republicans say that they either still consider Obama's birthplace to be open to debate or aren't sure, and 33 percent claim that the president was "definitely" or "probably" born elsewhere.
racism alive and well, water is wet, etc.
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Now let's look at a historic hypothetical. Had we found WMD's in Iraq, how many dems polled wouldn't have believed it, saying it was Cheney dirty tricks or something. Probably about the same. But don't take the blinders off or show independent thought or anything.
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Now let's look at a historic hypothetical. Had we found WMD's in Iraq, how many dems polled wouldn't have believed it, saying it was Cheney dirty tricks or something. Probably about the same. But don't take the blinders off or show independent thought or anything.
good post. i agree.
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Now let's look at a historic hypothetical. Had we found WMD's in Iraq, how many dems polled wouldn't have believed it, saying it was Cheney dirty tricks or something. Probably about the same. But don't take the blinders off or show independent thought or anything.
If were Russell Brand I'd be having sex with Katy Perry.
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"Still doesn't change the fact that his administration is jimmy carter on steroids."
yeah what a rube, solar panels on the white house? no self respecting oil man would have that.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/carter-energy/
energy independence, what does that even mean?
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"Still doesn't change the fact that his administration is jimmy carter on steroids."
yeah what a rube, solar panels on the white house? no self respecting oil man would have that.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/carter-energy/
energy independence, what does that even mean?
Yeah, that's what I meant. :jerk:
Try super stagflation and malaise.
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Still doesn't change the fact that his administration is jimmy carter on steroids.
Love people who can't think of anything more creative than to refer to something as either "on steroids," "on acid," or "on crack."
Clever, you!
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ohh the stagflation that affected most of the western world was caused by Carter? weird i didn't know that
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Contributed to it and made it worse.
Are you some fan of carter or something? Still got a sixer of Billy Beer in the fridge?
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Saw a dude try to auction of a case of that stuff on Auction Kings or one of those shows. Dude got like $100 or maybe $200.
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ohh the stagflation that affected most of the western world was caused by Carter? weird i didn't know that
I guess if you're going to defend Obama's economic policy, you pretty much have to defend Jimbo's.
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playing devils advocate here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&sns=fb
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playing devils advocate here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&sns=fb
As someone who is naturally a skeptic, but accepted the Birth certificate as genuine when it was release (based solely on thinking it was a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) argument to say the president wasn't born in the U.S.) Everything in that video is 100% logical. As someone who has, allegedly, faked documents in the past I know what trails to follow when looking for a fake.
I myself downloaded the .pdf from whitehouse.gov & everything in that video is true concerning the layers. I can say with 100% certainty that this document was tampered with. If this was a scanned document; everything should have been a rasterized image - no different than taking a picture with a camera. Instead, several portions in that document are vector based pieces of art which can only be generated by a computer - not a scanner. Having said all of that; It is without a doubt the most amateur looking photoshop I have ever seen. I would like to think that our government is capable of forging a better document. Which brings about a couple of scenarios: 1.The person that tampered with this document was really bad at their job. 2. The person that was asked to "doctor" this document was a closet republican and wanted to get the president caught or 3. What I believe most likely, This was done intentionally to further make birthers & trump look like conspiracy theory loony-toons.
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playing devils advocate here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&sns=fb
Love these people. LOVE them.
Yeah, pubescent guy making a YouTube video, you're right. The leader of the free world, who by the way just used two undetectable $60m stealth helicopters to orchestrate a nighttime raid that found and killed the planet's most wanted man, couldn't find a guy to do a decent photoshop.
Your YouTube video has me convinced.
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Actually, the youtube guy is right. This document was in fact tampered with. The motivation behind it is the only thing open for question. There is no doubt in my mind this was not just a place the document on the scanner and hit scan. Impossible. Some post editing absolutely, 100% positively, took place. Every person that knows anything about Illustrator can go to whitehouse.gov download the .pdf and see the added text themselves.
but why?
It's so amateur that there is no way it wasn't done on purpose. There's 100 different easy ways to prevent someone from seeing artwork added in a .pdf; but none of them were done. Why?
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The layers thing is easily explained. Any PDF that has more than one discernible color will have layers, it's part of the process of making a PDF.
Depending on the scanner used and the settings, colors that may look the same will not be scanned as the exact same color, so when the PDF is made, they will be seen as different colors and be put in separate layers. This is easily verifiable if you have a scanner, a PDF maker, and Illustrator.
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Actually, the youtube guy is right. This document was in fact tampered with. The motivation behind it is the only thing open for question. There is no doubt in my mind this was not just a place the document on the scanner and hit scan. Impossible. Some post editing absolutely, 100% positively, took place. Every person that knows anything about Illustrator can go to whitehouse.gov download the .pdf and see the added text themselves.
but why?
It's so amateur that there is no way it wasn't done on purpose. There's 100 different easy ways to prevent someone from seeing artwork added in a .pdf; but none of them were done. Why?
Maybe you're right. I def. don't know anything about Illustrator, so I can't say. I just like the idea that Birther 'tards think that this is a smoking gun to prove that Obama is a Kenyan and therefore should be kicked out of office. If it is faked like you say, it just furthers fff's claim that Obama is really f***ing good.
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Actually, the youtube guy is right. This document was in fact tampered with. The motivation behind it is the only thing open for question. There is no doubt in my mind this was not just a place the document on the scanner and hit scan. Impossible. Some post editing absolutely, 100% positively, took place. Every person that knows anything about Illustrator can go to whitehouse.gov download the .pdf and see the added text themselves.
but why?
It's so amateur that there is no way it wasn't done on purpose. There's 100 different easy ways to prevent someone from seeing artwork added in a .pdf; but none of them were done. Why?
Maybe you're right. I def. don't know anything about Illustrator, so I can't say. I just like the idea that Birther 'tards think that this is a smoking gun to prove that Obama is a Kenyan and therefore should be kicked out of office. If it is faked like you say, it just furthers fff's claim that Obama is really f***ing good.
I've branched off and now claim Obama was a test tube baby manufactured in a lab in Montreal.
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The layers thing is easily explained. Any PDF that has more than one discernible color will have layers, it's part of the process of making a PDF.
Depending on the scanner used and the settings, colors that may look the same will not be scanned as the exact same color, so when the PDF is made, they will be seen as different colors and be put in separate layers. This is easily verifiable if you have a scanner, a PDF maker, and Illustrator.
what is easily explained is how you don't know what the eff you're talking about. There are several different ways a .pdf can be made. A .pdf is just a file format that packages images/vector artwork/ fonts into a universal file format that everyone can read. A .pdf can contain compressed .zip files, compressed .jpg files, compressed .tif files fonts / line or vector artwork even color profiles for printing. Each application has it's own way of creating .pdf files. Some will apply layered mask's to show where an images has been cropped or inserted / some will break fonts out into different layers and some will just scan it all as a rasterized image onto one layer (which is how most scanners perform this function. The only type of software that will automatically break items out into different layers is when OCR technology has been applied. Which is not actually performed by the scanner, but the software being utilized by the scanner. OCR technology tries to recognize fonts & create copyable & editable text out of something that is scanned. It is very unreliable & will often read things inaccurately. For example "r" might turn into an "n" etc. What OCR will not do is break out separate colors and place them on a separate layer. The only thing that will do that is "live trace" functions and are not typically part of scanning software. IF this particular .pdf were done with a live trace function, everything would have been vector artwork. There would not be half rasterized / half vector artwork. Furthermore, Any Live Trace function would not have known to separate background from font without OCR. Any software applied such as OCR technology would not have separated text from the background and changed the color of the fonts & it would not have recognized a signature during OCR processing. Completely blows your theory out of the water. The scanner has no idea what a background is and what text is. Someone would have had to manually manipulate this file. Why is the question I'm posing to you.
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I personally believe that this was intentionally manipulated and a left to look like a poor photoshop job to keep the birthers looking like idiots. To dispute that this certificate was not manipulated in any way just shows that you are just as close minded as racist birthers trying to get a black president thrown out of office on technicality.
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The layers thing is easily explained. Any PDF that has more than one discernible color will have layers, it's part of the process of making a PDF.
Depending on the scanner used and the settings, colors that may look the same will not be scanned as the exact same color, so when the PDF is made, they will be seen as different colors and be put in separate layers. This is easily verifiable if you have a scanner, a PDF maker, and Illustrator.
what is easily explained is how you don't know what the eff you're talking about. There are several different ways a .pdf can be made. A .pdf is just a file format that packages images/vector artwork/ fonts into a universal file format that everyone can read. A .pdf can contain compressed .zip files, compressed .jpg files, compressed .tif files fonts / line or vector artwork even color profiles for printing. Each application has it's own way of creating .pdf files. Some will apply layered mask's to show where an images has been cropped or inserted / some will break fonts out into different layers and some will just scan it all as a rasterized image onto one layer (which is how most scanners perform this function. The only type of software that will automatically break items out into different layers is when OCR technology has been applied. Which is not actually performed by the scanner, but the software being utilized by the scanner. OCR technology tries to recognize fonts & create copyable & editable text out of something that is scanned. It is very unreliable & will often read things inaccurately. For example "r" might turn into an "n" etc. What OCR will not do is break out separate colors and place them on a separate layer. The only thing that will do that is "live trace" functions and are not typically part of scanning software. IF this particular .pdf were done with a live trace function, everything would have been vector artwork. There would not be half rasterized / half vector artwork. Furthermore, Any Live Trace function would not have known to separate background from font without OCR. Any software applied such as OCR technology would not have separated text from the background and changed the color of the fonts & it would not have recognized a signature during OCR processing. Completely blows your theory out of the water. The scanner has no idea what a background is and what text is. Someone would have had to manually manipulate this file. Why is the question I'm posing to you.
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More like John "Teach me how to" use .pdfs
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More like Hein "I wouldn't know a PDF layer if it hit me in the" Ballz
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wow :lol:
keep digging HeinBallz, you're very close to blowing the whole thing wide open...
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blowing what open? I haven't said anything that wasn't a fact. No where did I state he wasn't a u.s. citizen. All I've said is this birth certificate has been tampered with. Prove me wrong or shut up. :shakesfist:
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blowing what open? I haven't said anything that wasn't a fact. No where did I state he wasn't a u.s. citizen. All I've said is this birth certificate has been tampered with. Prove me wrong or shut up. :shakesfist:
to be fair you have stated many opinions that you think are facts. from what i understand about the "controversy" this is in fact a quite repeatable artifact caused by checking the optimized PDF option
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Acrobat/9.0/Standard/WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7f71.w.html#WS0BEFAC0B-47D9-47b8-9AF8-4DE2FE9C9736.w
try for yourself and see what you get
to me this is the simplest answer, someone made the scan, either forgot to uncheck that commonly used option or checked it without knowing what it does and converted to a pdf which was then uploaded and put online. no tampering involved.
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Okay. I can admit when I'm wrong. I've never produced results like that with a scan that I've made, but that's probably because I scan out of photoshop and I've never used some of the hokey canned effect crap that comes with most scanning software. I felt like my experience should have been respected with some credibility and jumped into defensive mode when it was suggested that I was wrong.
I apologize for for suggesting that anyone could didn't know what the eff they were doing and in fact was very wrong in this situation.
To john "teach me how to" dougie, Please accept my sincerest apologies.
Feel free to change my name to douchebag or something. :frown:
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Okay. I can admit when I'm wrong. I've never produced results like that with a scan that I've made, but that's probably because I scan out of photoshop and I've never used some of the hokey canned effect crap that comes with most scanning software. I felt like my experience should have been respected with some credibility and jumped into defensive mode when it was suggested that I was wrong.
I apologize for for suggesting that anyone could didn't know what the eff they were doing and in fact was very wrong in this situation.
To john "teach me how to" dougie, Please accept my sincerest apologies.
Feel free to change my name to douchebag or something. :frown:
Remember we are dealing with a government agency, so it's not your fault. :cheers:
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new board name should be:
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Okay. I can admit when I'm wrong. I've never produced results like that with a scan that I've made, but that's probably because I scan out of photoshop and I've never used some of the hokey canned effect crap that comes with most scanning software. I felt like my experience should have been respected with some credibility and jumped into defensive mode when it was suggested that I was wrong.
I apologize for for suggesting that anyone could didn't know what the eff they were doing and in fact was very wrong in this situation.
To john "teach me how to" dougie, Please accept my sincerest apologies.
Feel free to change my name to douchebag or something. :frown:
That was very big of you. Usually in this instance I just rip on someone's punctuation, or something. :cheers: to you.
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Actually, the youtube guy is right. This document was in fact tampered with. The motivation behind it is the only thing open for question. There is no doubt in my mind this was not just a place the document on the scanner and hit scan. Impossible. Some post editing absolutely, 100% positively, took place. Every person that knows anything about Illustrator can go to whitehouse.gov download the .pdf and see the added text themselves.
but why?
It's so amateur that there is no way it wasn't done on purpose. There's 100 different easy ways to prevent someone from seeing artwork added in a .pdf; but none of them were done. Why?
Maybe you're right. I def. don't know anything about Illustrator, so I can't say. I just like the idea that Birther 'tards think that this is a smoking gun to prove that Obama is a Kenyan and therefore should be kicked out of office. If it is faked like you say, it just furthers fff's claim that Obama is really f***ing good.
I've branched off and now claim Obama was a test tube baby manufactured in a lab in Montreal.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR MONTHS. Get your own conspiracy. :shakesfist:
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Remember all the retards on this board and in the media who said this was BO's birth certificate?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepresidentialcandidates.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F08%2Fobama-bc.jpg&hash=f71eaa5e4e88292d64e6be7fe22d66f9718402a1)
Haha retards, you were wrong. Do you even know what a real birth certificate looks like (pictured below)? I guess not. Haha retards, haha. The rough ridin' dumbshit mods even renamed the board because they thought that thing above was a birth certificate. Seriously, how can you even turn on a computer if you are that rough ridin' doltish?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fobamacrimes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F04%2Fobama_birth_certificate11.jpg&hash=b26a0739771b13400bc13c14558a4f1a156c32c9)
haha, haha, haha, sincerely
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