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Title: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2010, 09:39:12 PM
Any predictions on who will start for us next year? I'm thinking Asprilla, Kelly, Sutton and Pullen, but who replaces Denis? Does Pullen move to the 1 and we put McGruder as the 2? Or start Russel as the 1?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: canadian_breeze on February 21, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
pullen obviously moves back to point  :jerk:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2010, 09:44:47 PM
I don't know if it's THAT obvious. Irving seems to play it more than him, though I don't think he's proven himself yet. Especially in Big XII play, it seems like Pullen has barely played the 1 at all.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: doom on February 21, 2010, 09:45:18 PM
I think Irving will bring it up plenty.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 21, 2010, 09:53:38 PM
Let's have Dom bring it up.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: EllToPay on February 21, 2010, 10:00:18 PM
Irving
Pullen
Sutton
Samuels
Kelly
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 21, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
Irving
Pullen
Sutton
Samuels
Kelly

Correct
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: _K_S_U_ on February 21, 2010, 10:55:50 PM
Irving
Pullen
Sutton
Samuels
Kelly

Correct
+1  don't think Asprilla is gonna start ahead of Samuels Stevesie..cant wait for more McGruder pt  :pbj:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: sys on February 21, 2010, 11:03:22 PM
martin likes bigs.  big bigs, not samuels sized mini bigs.  it'll be very surprising if he doesn't start two real bigs in the majority of games.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2010, 11:13:49 PM
Also, JamSam LOVES coming off the bench. I can't imagine he wants to start next year. And since Frank seems to take players' opinions into account, I don't think he'll force him to start. I'm with sys. I think that Frank wants a true big at the 5. Unless JHR gains 20-30 before next season, I think Asprilla will be starting.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 21, 2010, 11:15:11 PM
Pullen
Irving, Grudz, or Russell
Sutton
Judge
Kelly

--Jam Sam will continue to be 6th man IMO
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 21, 2010, 11:16:52 PM
No way a kid new to the program starts over JamSam with his 2 years of experience. Martin may like big bigs a lot, but he likes experience a lot more.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2010, 11:18:54 PM
True. I guess I should have phrased it as "who will be starting by the beginning of Big XII play?" You think it will be Asprilla by then?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: sys on February 21, 2010, 11:22:51 PM
Judge
Kelly

agree that this is the most likely 4/5, at least to begin the year.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 21, 2010, 11:32:32 PM
True. I guess I should have phrased it as "who will be starting by the beginning of Big XII play?" You think it will be Asprilla by then?

I would be pretty surprised if Freddy can come in and start at all consistently next year, even in Big XII play.  He has a LOT of learning to do in his first year to get back in BB shape and physically and mentally ready to play in Frank's system. 

I look for him to start his senior year.  It's really a horrible shame we couldn't get him in this year with a redshirt and have 3 years to play. 

Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: nicname on February 21, 2010, 11:37:47 PM
Lost in all of this is the fact that Asprilla would have had no trouble coming in and starting right away on any KSU team in the last 20 years.  It's nice to be good again.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Bookcat on February 21, 2010, 11:38:20 PM
pullen obviously moves back to point  :jerk:

mcgruder, southwell, russell

think Jake can stay at the 2 where he belongs
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: SuperG on February 22, 2010, 01:39:57 AM
I gotta say... If Frank is willing to start LuCo then I expect hom to start Freddie next year. He may only be in there for 2-3 minuntes before JamSam arrives but he'll probably start.

Jake
Rod
Dom
Curt
Fred

Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: swish1 on February 22, 2010, 01:42:52 AM
pullen obviously moves back to point  :jerk:

mcgruder, southwell, russell

think Jake can stay at the 2 where he belongs

mcgruder is not a pg...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: steve dave on February 22, 2010, 07:22:47 AM
pullen obviously moves back to point  :jerk:

mcgruder, southwell, russell

think Jake can stay at the 2 where he belongs

mcgruder is not a pg...

southwell is not a pg...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: mcmwcat on February 22, 2010, 07:29:40 AM
martin likes bigs.  big bigs, not samuels sized mini bigs.  it'll be very surprising if he doesn't start two real bigs in the majority of games.

pullen, sutton, samuels, kelly, wally/spri
 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: michigancat on February 22, 2010, 09:11:32 AM
Hey guys, losing Clemente is going to suck.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: steve dave on February 22, 2010, 09:15:43 AM
Hey guys, losing Clemente is going to suck.

Yeah, it's going to suck a lot
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: bleedpurple on February 22, 2010, 09:29:46 AM
I don't see Samuels starting. We already tried that this year. He makes a bigger impact on the game coming from the bench, plus I'm not sure how long Samuels would play on a game to game basis if he started due to the difficulty he has staying out of foul trouble. Also, if Samuels starts at the 4 and kelly is at the 5 we have a SMALL team, 6' 7" and 6' 8" and skinny at the 4-5. Dominique will NEVER start at the 2. We would have the nations worst ball handling starting 5 period. All you'd have to do is press us and we'd turn it over every other trip down the court. I think pullen, mcgruder, sutton, kelly, asprilla is the most likely combo, but I think you could see pullen stay at the 2 and either russell or more likely irving at the 1. I've heard quite a few rumblings of Asprilla being an NBA prospect, not to mention he averaged 14 and 9 as a freshman. Like a guy posted earlier, if Colon starts now, then a much better Asprilla starts next year.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 22, 2010, 09:36:48 AM
I don't see Samuels starting. We already tried that this year. He makes a bigger impact on the game coming from the bench, plus I'm not sure how long Samuels would play on a game to game basis if he started due to the difficulty he has staying out of foul trouble. Also, if Samuels starts at the 4 and kelly is at the 5 we have a SMALL team, 6' 7" and 6' 8" and skinny at the 4-5. Dominique will NEVER start at the 2. We would have the nations worst ball handling starting 5 period. All you'd have to do is press us and we'd turn it over every other trip down the court. I think pullen, mcgruder, sutton, kelly, asprilla is the most likely combo, but I think you could see pullen stay at the 2 and either russell or more likely irving at the 1. I've heard quite a few rumblings of Asprilla being an NBA prospect, not to mention he averaged 14 and 9 as a freshman. Like a guy posted earlier, if Colon starts now, then a much better Asprilla starts next year.

I agree. However, I haven't seen Irving doing a great job as the 1. I just don't know any other option besides Russel, and I haven't seen him play a significant amount of time in a while.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: michigancat on February 22, 2010, 09:38:07 AM
Guys, Irving and Russell totally suck.  Wish that Seward Juco guy hadn't quit his team.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2010, 09:39:45 AM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: bleedpurple on February 22, 2010, 09:41:06 AM
I don't see Samuels starting. We already tried that this year. He makes a bigger impact on the game coming from the bench, plus I'm not sure how long Samuels would play on a game to game basis if he started due to the difficulty he has staying out of foul trouble. Also, if Samuels starts at the 4 and kelly is at the 5 we have a SMALL team, 6' 7" and 6' 8" and skinny at the 4-5. Dominique will NEVER start at the 2. We would have the nations worst ball handling starting 5 period. All you'd have to do is press us and we'd turn it over every other trip down the court. I think pullen, mcgruder, sutton, kelly, asprilla is the most likely combo, but I think you could see pullen stay at the 2 and either russell or more likely irving at the 1. I've heard quite a few rumblings of Asprilla being an NBA prospect, not to mention he averaged 14 and 9 as a freshman. Like a guy posted earlier, if Colon starts now, then a much better Asprilla starts next year.

I agree. However, I haven't seen Irving doing a great job as the 1. I just don't know any other option besides Russel, and I haven't seen him play a significant amount of time in a while.

I agree, with what you said being the only reason i could see pullen moving to the 1 because if he is at the 2 then irving or russell have to be there. So I see the most likely combo being 1=pullen, 2=mac.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 22, 2010, 09:42:16 AM
I don't see Samuels starting. We already tried that this year. He makes a bigger impact on the game coming from the bench, plus I'm not sure how long Samuels would play on a game to game basis if he started due to the difficulty he has staying out of foul trouble. Also, if Samuels starts at the 4 and kelly is at the 5 we have a SMALL team, 6' 7" and 6' 8" and skinny at the 4-5. Dominique will NEVER start at the 2. We would have the nations worst ball handling starting 5 period. All you'd have to do is press us and we'd turn it over every other trip down the court. I think pullen, mcgruder, sutton, kelly, asprilla is the most likely combo, but I think you could see pullen stay at the 2 and either russell or more likely irving at the 1. I've heard quite a few rumblings of Asprilla being an NBA prospect, not to mention he averaged 14 and 9 as a freshman. Like a guy posted earlier, if Colon starts now, then a much better Asprilla starts next year.

I agree. However, I haven't seen Irving doing a great job as the 1. I just don't know any other option besides Russel, and I haven't seen him play a significant amount of time in a while.

Alright, I'm game.

I agree, with what you said being the only reason i could see pullen moving to the 1 because if he is at the 2 then irving or russell have to be there. So I see the most likely combo being 1=pullen, 2=mac.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: JMart on February 22, 2010, 09:42:29 AM
What about Wes Welker at the point?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: michigancat on February 22, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
What about Wes Welker at the point?

Frank doesn't value HBBIQ/coach's son mentalities/deceptive athleticism.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on February 22, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
What about Wes Welker at the point?

If he's ready to ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: SleepFighter on February 22, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
Wish that Seward Juco guy hadn't quit his team.

This.  Has anybody heard anymore on what happened here?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: mcmwcat on February 22, 2010, 11:33:20 AM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.

pittman part deux ???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: bleedpurple on February 22, 2010, 11:35:20 AM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.

pittman part deux ???

Pittman is about 15 pounds heavier right now, and some how I doubt, after an offseason with greenwalt, that we see a 280 pound asprilla.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2010, 12:15:56 PM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.

pittman part deux ???
colon part 1.5  :confused:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: bleedpurple on February 22, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.

pittman part deux ???
colon part 1.5  :confused:

-1
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2010, 12:29:38 PM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.

pittman part deux ???
colon part 1.5  :confused:

-1
colon part .5   :confused:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 Starters
Post by: bleedpurple on February 22, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
hopefully Asprilla can get up and down the floor better than I think he will.  because he doesn't appear to be fleet of foot.

pittman part deux ???
colon part 1.5  :confused:

lol....+1

-1
colon part .5   :confused: