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Title: 2011-12; individual returners
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2011, 03:01:06 PM
http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=1006

Individual stats from this past season for the Top 10 returners next year.
Title: Re: 2011-12; individual returners
Post by: mcmwcat on March 29, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
i don't enjoy the Southwell - Sutton comparos.  that being said:  :)

what was Sutton's o-rating his sophomore and junior years?

how much older was Sutton than Southwell when they played their first game?  Sutton was definitely more college ready when he stepped on campus.
Title: Re: 2011-12; individual returners
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2011, 03:34:13 PM
i don't enjoy the Southwell - Sutton comparos.  that being said:  :)

what was Sutton's o-rating his sophomore and junior years?

how much older was Sutton than Southwell when they played their first game?  Sutton was definitely more college ready when he stepped on campus.

I don't like the comparison either, but an 80 Ortg is bad regardless, especially when the next worst was in the high 90s. I know he want asked to do much, but he's got to get a lot better on offense.
Title: Re: 2011-12; individual returners
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2011, 03:36:17 PM
CONFIDENCE RISING _FAN.
Title: Re: 2011-12; individual returners
Post by: sys on March 29, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
an 80 Ortg is bad regardless.

i know his efg% was really bad, but he hardly shot.  it's all his to%, which was absolutely ridiculous.


his numbers kinda shows how misleading a:to ratio is as a ball handling/passing stat.  now that pomeroy and his followers have won the rebound% vs total rebounds battle,  hope they attack that next.

sutton to southwell isn't really a good comparo, as you've mentioned in previous posts.  they don't really play anything alike.  wright is the much better comparison.  had an 85 orating his first year too.  didn't have the disgusting to numbers as a jr, but he might have come close if he'd played significant big 12 minutes as a freshman.
Title: Re: 2011-12; individual returners
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2011, 08:24:29 PM
an 80 Ortg is bad regardless.

i know his efg% was really bad, but he hardly shot.  it's all his to%, which was absolutely ridiculous.


his numbers kinda shows how misleading a:to ratio is as a ball handling/passing stat.  now that pomeroy and his followers have won the rebound% vs total rebounds battle,  hope they attack that next.

sutton to southwell isn't really a good comparo, as you've mentioned in previous posts.  they don't really play anything alike.  wright is the much better comparison.  had an 85 orating his first year too.  didn't have the disgusting to numbers as a jr, but he might have come close if he'd played significant big 12 minutes as a freshman.

Good points. I just see 80 Ortgs and it's hard not to think of guys like Colon and Merriwether.