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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Pete on March 29, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
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This weekend's Final Four will be the ONLY one every played without a 1 seed or a 2 seed. The FIRST ever! rough ridin' HISTORY right there on the television. I'd imagine that your serious "college basketball fans" will be glued to the TV sets, I mean it's HISTORIC.
BUT WAIT, it gets better!
Plus, you have the wonderful match up of likely Naismith player of the year Kemba Walker against THE bluesest of the bluebloods in Kentucky with their amazing freshman point guard Brandon Knight (best in the country)....WOW, how could a serious "college basketball fan" not want to watch that?
BUT WAIT, it gets better!
On the other side of the bracket is the unbelievable story of Butler reaching their SECOND CONSECUTIVE FINAL FOUR! Talk about a top notch program to watch on your television. Serious "college basketball fans" would probably blow a hobo to get a chance to watch a team in their second consecutive final four. OMG, this final four is rough ridin' AMAZING!
BUT WAIT, it gets better!
VCU, is making history as the VERY FIRST "play-in" team to reach the final four! HOLY HELL, THIS IS HISTORIC! What serious "college basketball fan" would want to miss this first-time-ever event? I mean you have a real god damn Disney movie playing out before your rough ridin' eyes!
You add all this up, and how do you NOT have the very best Final Four in the history of college basketball? How, I rough ridin' ask you? Basically, if you don't watch this Final Four, then you are not a serious "college basketball fan."
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abso-rough ridin'-lutely, Pete.
It has the makings of a great "david vs. goliath" story. Either way, Butler or VCU will be the inferior "david" while on the other side, UK and UCONN will be the "goliath" (because they're the 2 blue bloodest programs in the nation).
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abso-effing-lutely, Pete.
It has the makings of a great "david vs. goliath" story. Either way, Butler or VCU will be the inferior "david" while on the other side, UK and UCONN will be the "goliath" (because they're the 2 blue bloodest programs in the nation).
Yep. Can you imagine anyone who enjoys college basketball NOT watching this final four?
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Off the top of my head, the only people that I can imagine NOT watching this historic final four are grandmas, infants, queers, and people who aren't fans of college basketball. :ck:
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fellas, I'm going for kentucky because they are the wildcats
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The average seed for the Final Four is 6.5 :surprised:
Just a great Final Four if you ask me.
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:bracketmouse: to the bar to get good seats.
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:raiseshand:
I read something about red carpets and the Kansas Jayhawks before I went out of the country last weekend...?
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fellas, I'm going for kentucky because they are the wildcats
yeah, me too, but because they're the only team that would beat our wildcats. I know that, given the chance, the KSU Wildcats would have easily handled Butler or VCU.
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fellas, I'm going for kentucky because they are the wildcats
you root for the catCatz. i choose the bullCats
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Really glad we've got a system in places that gets the four best teams in college basketball playing for the title.
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Should be fun at work later this week. Loads of KU fans here, and almost all of them consider themselves serious college basketball fans. It'll prolly be all the talk. Can't wait!
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Should be fun at work later this week. Loads of KU fans here, and almost all of them consider themselves serious college basketball fans. It'll prolly be all the talk. Can't wait!
You are mean to the third degree.
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fellas, I'm going for kentucky because they are the wildcats
So you've already forgiven them for that 1951 National Championship game huh Steve Dave? Very disappointed.
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Should be fun at work later this week. Loads of KU fans here, and almost all of them consider themselves serious college basketball fans. It'll prolly be all the talk. Can't wait!
You are mean to the third degree.
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Just talking about watching historically amazing basketball, bro. The kind any serious college basketball fan would enjoy.
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Should be fun at work later this week. Loads of KU fans here, and almost all of them consider themselves serious college basketball fans. It'll prolly be all the talk. Can't wait!
You are mean to the third degree.
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Just talking about watching historically amazing basketball, bro. The kind any serious college basketball fan would enjoy.
I meant it as a compliment.
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fellas, I'm going for kentucky because they are the wildcats
So you've already forgiven them for that 1951 National Championship game huh Steve Dave? Very disappointed.
Steve Dave is NOT a serious college basketball fan. He basically thinks basketball started in 1988, ended in 1989, then picked back up with Huggieville. :jerk:
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Should be fun at work later this week. Loads of KU fans here, and almost all of them consider themselves serious college basketball fans. It'll prolly be all the talk. Can't wait!
You are mean to the third degree.
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Just talking about watching historically amazing basketball, bro. The kind any serious college basketball fan would enjoy.
I meant it as a compliment.
eff YOU AND YOUR THINLY VEILED COMPLIMENTS!
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Really glad we've got a system in places that gets the four best teams in college basketball playing for the title.
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Wow, great combo-fan talking point!
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Should be fun at work later this week. Loads of KU fans here, and almost all of them consider themselves serious college basketball fans. It'll prolly be all the talk. Can't wait!
You are mean to the third degree.
:dunno:
Just talking about watching historically amazing basketball, bro. The kind any serious college basketball fan would enjoy.
I meant it as a compliment.
eff YOU AND YOUR THINLY VEILED COMPLIMENTS!
:lol:
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The only thing to make it better would be if there was a 5 seed in there.
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I'm rooting for Kentucky as well. It's always great to see another blueblood run over non-bluebloods.ß
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Pete, come by the club. I have a case of Woodford Reserve from a client. We will drink some hoops, and drink some Kentucky bourbon. I plan on sending some invites to some ku fans I know because they are hardcore hoops fans who will NOT want to miss these matchups.
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We need that in purple with a silver Frank or FTB. :emawkid:
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We need that in purple with a silver Frank or FTB. :emawkid:
Would pay a lot of money for something like that. But that's not at all surprising seeing as how we all do very well in life and have money to burn.
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You'd have to be a huge butt-hurt bandwagon fan not to be excited about the final four. I mean way huge. Can't thing there's many of those in this basketball crazy state.
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Will this be only the 2nd year since 1979 that the national champion does not have at least one McDonald's All-American on their roster(McD's game was started in '77)? Only exception was Maryland in '02. FWIW, only 6 of those champs had less than 2 McD AA's on their roster(Don't know about specifics there, too lazy to look it up).
Butler 0
VCU 0
UConn 2 - Walker and Oriakhi
Kentucky 3 - Knight, Jones, and Lamb
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A source said the 10 preselected officials with Final Four assignments are:
* John Cahill
* Pat Driscoll
* Verne Harris
* John Higgins
* Les Jones
* Jamie Luckie
* Antinio Petty
* Doug Shows
* Michael Stephens
* Mark Whitehead
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Pete, come by the club. I have a case of Woodford Reserve from a client. We will drink some hoops, and drink some Kentucky bourbon. I plan on sending some invites to some ku fans I know because they are hardcore hoops fans who will NOT want to miss these matchups.
Sounds perfect. Just talking serious college basketball hoops with serious college basketball fans while getting higher than a Georgia pine sipping whiskey and watching the greatest Final Four the NCAA has ever had. SOMEONE effING PINCH ME!
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
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Where did this BHKUF come from and why did he pick now to appear?
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It's going to be like Christmas all weekend long -- what's that under the tree, Santa? Oh, another fantastic basketball game experience? INCREDIBLE!
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had a squawk tell me earlier this year that Cal would never win a title with all his one and doners, squawks are so dumb.
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So, Danny and the Miracles NC doesn't count...Now KU is back to two NC's & FHSU has the most bball NC's in the state again. TY Mr/Mrs Sayers!!!
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
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You deserve better than this single terrible troll, Pete. This was a solid effort. I just want you to know that.
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
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As a #6 seed in the NCAA Tournament, the Wolfpack won narrow victories over Pepperdine (in double overtime) and UNLV (71–70) before defeating Utah in the Sweet Sixteen, 75-56. In the regional final, NC State again defeated Virginia, 63-62, then defeated Georgia in the Final Four to advance to the championship game against Houston. The Cougars, nicknamed Phi Slama Jama for their athletic, fast-paced style of play that featured Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwon, were expected to win easily over the underdog Wolfpack. NC State escaped with their second national title after a last-second air ball by Dereck Whittenburg was caught and dunked by Lorenzo Charles.[8] The 54-52 final is one of the most famous in college basketball history.[1]
rough ridin' CHILLS!
We could have something as special as that THIS YEAR! :pbj:
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
EVERYONE CALLED THEM CINDERELLA....THAT'S BASICALLY effING SYNONYMOUS WITH "MIRACLES," DUMBASS!
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
:lol: :lol:
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lol
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
EVERYONE CALLED THEM CINDERELLA....THAT'S BASICALLY effING SYNONYMOUS WITH "MIRACLES," DUMBASS!
Let me spell it out for those that just started watching basketball in the last few years. That's "Danny and" the Miracles. Miracles PLUS Danny DO NOT EQUAL Cinderellas.
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
EVERYONE CALLED THEM CINDERELLA....THAT'S BASICALLY effING SYNONYMOUS WITH "MIRACLES," DUMBASS!
Let me spell it out for those that just started watching basketball in the last few years. That's "Danny and" the Miracles. Miracles PLUS Danny DO NOT EQUAL Cinderellas.
Did Sports Illustrated just start writing about basketball in the last few years?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1153437/3/10/index.htm
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
EVERYONE CALLED THEM CINDERELLA....THAT'S BASICALLY effING SYNONYMOUS WITH "MIRACLES," DUMBASS!
Let me spell it out for those that just started watching basketball in the last few years. That's "Danny and" the Miracles. Miracles PLUS Danny DO NOT EQUAL Cinderellas.
You mean like Matt Howard and the Miracles...ONLY they are on their SECOND MOTHER rough ridin' CONSECUTIVE FINAL FOUR.
OR, Like Kemba Walker and the Miracles? Or, Brandon Knight and the Miracles? :dunno: OR, SHAKA AND THE MIRACLES...the ONLY team from a play-in game to EVER make it to a Final Four????
JESUS CHRIST, THIS FINAL FOUR IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!
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Wait, I think ESPN has only been covering basketball in recent years.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=list/cinderellastories
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
EVERYONE CALLED THEM CINDERELLA....THAT'S BASICALLY effING SYNONYMOUS WITH "MIRACLES," DUMBASS!
Let me spell it out for those that just started watching basketball in the last few years. That's "Danny and" the Miracles. Miracles PLUS Danny DO NOT EQUAL Cinderellas.
Did Sports Illustrated just start writing about basketball in the last few years?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1153437/3/10/index.htm
:lol:
Hard to believe that in 1988, the third winningest Division I men's basketball program in NCAA history was a Cinderella story. But the unranked Jayhawks entered the tournament with an unflattering 11 losses.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1153437/3/10/index.htm#ixzz1I2dlIWaW
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You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?
It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far. LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4. :lol:
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You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?
It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far. LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4. :lol:
Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?
And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.
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You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?
It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far. LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4. :lol:
Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?
And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.
Too far. This HAS to be a sock.
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:bracketmouse: to the bar to get good seats.
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You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?
It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far. LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4. :lol:
Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?
And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.
Too far. This HAS to be a sock.
Nope. This is exhibit A for typical BHKUF. Pete rough ridin' landed Moby Dick.
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'grats, pete.
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You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?
It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far. LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4. :lol:
Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?
And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.
Let me translate this for all of you that have only been following butt-hurt KU fans for a couple of years: :bawl: & :bracketmouse: <--taking his ball and bracket and going home...to his parents' basement
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Sayers is a phog.net goon that is put in some great gems on the football board too.
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I don't agree. Something is wrong. A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.
Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament? :dunno: Did you dudes still hang the banner?
As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.
I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas. It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.
This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four. Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25.
That's true. KU truly deserved its national championship after beating all those 1 and 2 seeds in the final four. VCU would never be able to beat a 1 seed.
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Reel is screaming Pete. :bait:
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wow, just wow. this is amazing work right here Pete.
Sayers making Ben look like he is a reasonable person....
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'grats, pete.
This is his blue marlin.
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'grats, pete.
This is his blue marlin.
Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.
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'grats, pete.
This is his blue marlin.
Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.
I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.
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So, OU is the 88 champ? Congrats Soonerbasketball!!!
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'grats, pete.
This is his blue marlin.
Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.
I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.
I'm very conflicted about all of this.
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I am excited to watch this Final 4. I want to see if Kemba can keep up his insane play, can Kentucky continue to win while only playing 6 players really, can Butler win the title this year, and can VCU continue their tremendous performance in the tournament and become the first team to win 7 games in their path to win the title.
Personally I am pulling for Butler
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'grats, pete.
This is his blue marlin.
Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.
I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.
I'm very conflicted about all of this.
I think you should quit worrying about it and just take a damn compliment when it's offered.
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I am excited to watch this Final 4. I want to see if Kemba can keep up his insane play, can Kentucky continue to win while only playing 6 players really, can Butler win the title this year, and can VCU continue their tremendous performance in the tournament and become the first team to win 7 games in their path to win the title.
Personally I am pulling for Butler
Kentucky. We could witness them cementing status as the greatest basketball program of all time.
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'grats, pete.
This is his blue marlin.
Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.
I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.
I'm very conflicted about all of this.
Ahab? :ck:
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I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :bwpopcorn: :bwpopcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:).
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I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :bwpopcorn: :bwpopcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:).
Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?
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The tournament system has lost it's novelty and is more of a freak show than it is a legitimate method of determining a champion. Ku and Ohio State should be playing each other for the national championship. They deserved it based on their overwhelming success during the regular season and conference play. Instead, we get to see VCU play Butler??!!! The NCAA tourney is a money grab that's an old and worn out system that's clearly broken and no longer works.
Football has had it right all along. Regular season play should mean something. And #1 should play #2 for the national championship game.
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I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :bwpopcorn: :bwpopcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:).
Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?
Cast:
Bill Self - Mel Gibson
Morris Twins - 50 cent
Mario Little - Chris Brown
Brady Morningstar - Ron Howard (same age)
I'd have to sit and really think who would play Shaka Smart and the VCU players.
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I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :bwpopcorn: :bwpopcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:).
Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?
Cast:
Bill Self - Mel Gibson
Morris Twins - 50 cent
Mario Little - Chris Brown
Brady Morningstar - Ron Howard (same age)
I'd have to sit and really think who would play Shaka Smart and the VCU players.
Someone needs to go to some warehouse and dust off ET and use him for the role of Tyrel Reed.
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I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :bwpopcorn: :bwpopcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:).
Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?
Cast:
Bill Self - Mel Gibson
Morris Twins - 50 cent
Mario Little - Chris Brown
Brady Morningstar - Ron Howard (same age)
I'd have to sit and really think who would play Shaka Smart and the VCU players.
Would watch.
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The part of T-Rob would obviously be played by Dwight Howard.
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The part of T-Rob would obviously be played by Dwight Howard.
OMG yes!
Who would play Shaka Smart (most important role in the movie)?
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The part of T-Rob would obviously be played by Dwight Howard.
OMG yes!
Who would play Shaka Smart (most important role in the movie)?
Nick Wright of 610
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The part of T-Rob would obviously be played by Dwight Howard.
OMG yes!
Who would play Shaka Smart (most important role in the movie)?
Nick Wright of 610
He does look like him, but this isn't really a lookalike contest. We need somebody who can act. I was leaning toward Denzel.
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A scene opens with Jacob Pullen and a little boy at the bowling alley. The boy is Jacob's little brother in the Big Brothers Big Sisters program at Manhattan, and he just got an A on a test thanks to Jake's mentoring, so they are celebrating. Jake's phone rings, and he answers it:
Jake: Hello?
Caller: Hi, is this Jacob Pullen?
Jake: Yeah, who's this?
Caller: The fear the beard man himself?
Jake: Yeah, what's it to you?
Caller: Hello, my name is Jamie Skeen.
Jake: Who's Jamie Skeen?
Jamie: I play for VCU.
Jake: Oh, yeah. Hey, man, congratulations on getting to the elite 8.
Jamie: Yeah, man, thanks. I was calling because our next opponent is KU. We've been watching film from your game with them, and I couldn't help but be impressed with the way you guys handled them. Can you give me any pointers on what we need to do to pull this off?
Jake: Listen, man. Those guys are good. Real good. But if you guys pull together as a team and play your hearts out, you can overcome. Just watch out for those Morris twins though. Those guys are real buttholes on the court. They're always elbowing people and getting cheap shots in. Just don't let them intimidate you.
Jamie: All right, man. Thanks! I'll let the guys know what you said.
Jake: No problem, man. Just remember what I said.
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Is the locksmith from "Crash" too old to play Joey Rodriguez?
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Is the locksmith from "Crash" too old to play Joey Rodriguez?
Wilmer Valderrama
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The part of T-Rob would obviously be played by Dwight Howard.
OMG yes!
Who would play Shaka Smart (most important role in the movie)?
was going to say this guy....
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1221047/
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fia.media-imdb.com%2Fimages%2FM%2FMV5BMjE1Mjc5MzUwOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzc3ODk0Mw%40%40._V1._SX214_CR0%2C0%2C214%2C314_.jpg&hash=c96b2e8bd381c5ca6f2616c9175f0a7bd9c7589c)
but after seeing shaka smart again, I'm going with Vin Diesel.
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:goodbyecruelworld: For missing this thread.
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:goodbyecruelworld: For missing this thread.
Pretty rough ridin' good, right?
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:goodbyecruelworld: For missing this thread.
Pretty rough ridin' good, right?
The qualification and/or delineation of "and" and the defining of "cinderalla" by Sayers was one for the ages Stony.
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=7388185 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=7388185)
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuyhhG.png&hash=18663f31bd01b4bd9293edfcc0e99a8d79bd8003)
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuyhhG.png&hash=18663f31bd01b4bd9293edfcc0e99a8d79bd8003)
The sad part is that we're probably pulling up the average.
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Wish they could break out the state county by county. Just a quilt of red and purple.
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Highest ratings since 2005. (http://news.turner.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=5633)
Obviously, the nation loved the tournament this year.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuyhhG.png&hash=18663f31bd01b4bd9293edfcc0e99a8d79bd8003)
:lol:
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuyhhG.png&hash=18663f31bd01b4bd9293edfcc0e99a8d79bd8003)
lol
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:lol: