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vgregorian Vahe Gregorian
by SSJ_WHB
Cuonzo Martin takes Tennessee job.
MU is mumped.
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That dude can coach and is 100 miles away...how did MU manage to eff this up?
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It was previously reported by those with Purdue ties that Martin was in the loop on the Painter/Purdue negotiations and was basically the guy if Painter left.
What does that say about MUs chances on Painter....
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It was previously reported by those with Purdue ties that Martin was in the loop on the Painter/Purdue negotiations and was basically the guy if Painter left.
What does that say about MUs chances on Painter....
I still haven't heard anyone say that MU/Painter discussion is legit. It seems like everyone started talking about Painter the day that Holthus mentioned Painter as a guy MU should try to talk to. Haven't heard or read anywhere that they actually were trying to talk to him or had talked to him.
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It was previously reported by those with Purdue ties that Martin was in the loop on the Painter/Purdue negotiations and was basically the guy if Painter left.
What does that say about MUs chances on Painter....
I still haven't heard anyone say that MU/Painter discussion is legit. It seems like everyone started talking about Painter the day that Holthus mentioned Painter as a guy MU should try to talk to. Haven't heard or read anywhere that they actually were trying to talk to him or had talked to him.
http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/1747
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Mike DeArmond is about 3 brain cells north of vegetable status. He is just getting MU fan excited so they'll go after Alden and give Mike D something to write about until the Star folds and he's using his SS checks to buy cheap vodka.
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Why would Painter want to leave Purdue? I can't think of anything that would be better at Mizzou (aside from $, maybe). This makes zero sense.
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Gary Parrish
See how underwhelming this hire feels? That's why UT should've tempered expectations and never let names like Dixon and Stevens get floated.
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It was previously reported by those with Purdue ties that Martin was in the loop on the Painter/Purdue negotiations and was basically the guy if Painter left.
What does that say about MUs chances on Painter....
I still haven't heard anyone say that MU/Painter discussion is legit. It seems like everyone started talking about Painter the day that Holthus mentioned Painter as a guy MU should try to talk to. Haven't heard or read anywhere that they actually were trying to talk to him or had talked to him.
holthus & others aren't just idly speculating. his name was being leaked. obvious agent tactic. only question is if he is really willing to go to mu if purdue doesn't pay.
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I'm interested to see how this turns out at Tenn.
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holthus & others aren't just idly speculating. his name was being leaked. obvious agent tactic. only question is if he is really willing to go to mu if purdue doesn't pay.
yes
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Gary Parrish
See how underwhelming this hire feels? That's why UT should've tempered expectations and never let names like Dixon and Stevens get floated.
would have been underwhelming even if they floated Jim Wooldridge. Good hire, though. Crazy how little star power there is in the SEC and ACC w/ coaches outside the very top..
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Gary Parrish
See how underwhelming this hire feels? That's why UT should've tempered expectations and never let names like Dixon and Stevens get floated.
would have been underwhelming even if they floated Jim Wooldridge. Good hire, though. Crazy how little star power there is in the SEC and ACC w/ coaches outside the very top..
I hear it's rejection city (again) for NC State out on the new coach trail.
That would be a very good job except for one thing . . . the ridiculous demands by NC State folks that the clock be rolled back to the 70's thru the Mid 80's and that NC State was on an even footing with Duke and UNC like back then.
No coach wants a job where the fanbase has completely unrealistic expectations.
In the SEC there's only 1.5 basketball schools, but I think some of those jobs would be more enticing because if you were pretty successful you could Rick Barnes the hell out of them.
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I don't categorize Purdue as winning at the highest level or playing in a major conference.
:lol:
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wow. MU might actually do something right/good. Painter would be a moron if he didn't leave should Purdue not want to pony up add'l money. And purdue would be f'ing stupid not too. Maybe not 2M but they can bump it up 400-500K or so.
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What's Painter getting now?
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What's Painter getting now?
i think around 1.3
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What's Painter getting now?
i think around 1.3
jfc, if Purdue loses a rough ridin' ALUM coach to Mizz. Someone should be fired.
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I can't think of any possible way Mizzou is a better job than Purdue. Other than around $700k. But even then I think it would be close.
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What's Painter getting now?
i think around 1.3
jfc, if Purdue loses a effing ALUM coach to Mizz. Someone should be fired.
they seem kind of righteous. like the kind of school that says they have morals and standards and everyting and won't pay that much for a coach. i dunno.
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Gary Parrish
See how underwhelming this hire feels? That's why UT should've tempered expectations and never let names like Dixon and Stevens get floated.
would have been underwhelming even if they floated Jim Wooldridge. Good hire, though. Crazy how little star power there is in the SEC and ACC w/ coaches outside the very top..
I hear it's rejection city (again) for NC State out on the new coach trail.
That would be a very good job except for one thing . . . the ridiculous demands by NC State folks that the clock be rolled back to the 70's thru the Mid 80's and that NC State was on an even footing with Duke and UNC like back then.
No coach wants a job where the fanbase has completely unrealistic expectations.
In the SEC there's only 1.5 basketball schools, but I think some of those jobs would be more enticing because if you were pretty successful you could Rick Barnes the hell out of them.
well, that and the fact their President is a huge $!#*.
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I can't think of any possible way Mizzou is a better job than Purdue. Other than around $700k. But even then I think it would be close.
completely boring school in the middle of cornfields. third in state.
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I can't think of any possible way Mizzou is a better job than Purdue. Other than around $700k. But even then I think it would be close.
completely boring school in the middle of cornfields. third in state.
local/regional population trumps your negatives by far.
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local/regional population trumps your negatives by far.
mo and in are both ca. 6 million. i don't buy the canard that st. louis is too far from/doesn't care about mu.
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local/regional population trumps your negatives by far.
mo and in are both ca. 6 million. i don't buy the canard that st. louis is too far from/doesn't care about mu.
I'm thinking Chicago/Detroit/Cincinnati more than Indiana population. I mean Chicago is only 2 hours away for Purdue vs. St. Louis and KC being two hours away for Mizzou. I mean seriously.
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fair point on chicago. i'd argue memphis/chicago are about equal for mu compared to detroit/cincy for purdue.
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well, that and the fact their President is a huge $!#*.
You mean the AD?? Their Chancellor is a guy.
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Wow, this crap with Painter is actually going down.
Totally thought this was nothing more than a play for a pay hike at Purdue, but the fact that he's actually going to meet with MU leads me to believe this has a better than 50% shot of happening at this point. Crazy...
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_95e4a9d2-594b-11e0-9b25-0017a4a78c22.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_95e4a9d2-594b-11e0-9b25-0017a4a78c22.html)
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Wow, this crap with Painter is actually going down.
Totally thought this was nothing more than a play for a pay hike at Purdue, but the fact that he's actually going to meet with MU leads me to believe this has a better than 50% shot of happening at this point. Crazy...
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_95e4a9d2-594b-11e0-9b25-0017a4a78c22.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_95e4a9d2-594b-11e0-9b25-0017a4a78c22.html)
pulling a MA, trying to get more money out of Purdue? And if they call his bluff, he's gone.
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Wow, this cac with Painter is actually going down.
Totally thought this was nothing more than a play for a pay hike at Purdue, but the fact that he's actually going to meet with MU leads me to believe this has a better than 50% shot of happening at this point. Crazy...
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_95e4a9d2-594b-11e0-9b25-0017a4a78c22.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/article_95e4a9d2-594b-11e0-9b25-0017a4a78c22.html)
These were essentially the thoughts of fran franschilla this morning on the BP with St John. I'd much rather be up against MA than Painter.
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
Have a feeling that Painter will have a new contract with Purdue by the end of the week.
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well, that and the fact their President is a huge $!#*.
You mean the AD?? Their Chancellor is a guy.
yes sorry....I thought that initially but the idea of a lady AD made me all :lol: and I assumed I remembered it wrong.
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
Have a feeling that Painter will have a new contract with Purdue by the end of the week.
I didn't either, but I actually have shifted my thinking on this.
Purdue doesn't even lights at their freaking football stadium. These guys run a shoestring budget by Big 10 standards. And I'm really not sure they have the financial resources to elevate his pay substantially even if the committment was really there.
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
New arena, good facilities, good conference that will soon be getting an infusion of cash and TV exposure, decent proximity to good recruiting areas, solid reputation on a national level, good academics..
It's a good job. They've just managed to underwhelm on nearly every hire for a really long time.
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if Painter is meeting with MU, then it's done.
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if Painter is meeting with MU, then it's done.
:ohno:
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
Have a feeling that Painter will have a new contract with Purdue by the end of the week.
Disagree. IMO, the only thing Purdue has going for it compared to MU is its in the B10.
Look at who Painter battles with in his own state. ND, IU and Butler. MU is the only BCS school in the state with major meto areas two hours each way. MU has just as much money as Purdue, but with better facilities.
Why not?
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if Painter is meeting with MU, then it's done.
:ohno:
I guess on the flip side, if MU doesn't get him and settles for someone way less, that will create quite the shitstorm in Columbia.
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
New arena, good facilities, good conference that will soon be getting an infusion of cash and TV exposure, decent proximity to good recruiting areas, solid reputation on a national level, good academics..
It's a good job. They've just managed to underwhelm on nearly every hire for a really long time.
2 Million per year salary is a shitpile of Walmart money to throw at a coach.
The reality is money talks and there are a lot of other nice perks that you mentioned that make it a first rate job. The Laurie/Kronke/Wal-Mart shitpile of money being at the top of the list.
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
New arena, good facilities, good conference that will soon be getting an infusion of cash and TV exposure, decent proximity to good recruiting areas, solid reputation on a national level, good academics..
It's a good job. They've just managed to underwhelm on nearly every hire for a really long time.
2 Million per year salary is a cacpile of Walmart money to throw at a coach.
The reality is money talks and there are a lot of other nice perks that you mentioned that make it a first rate job. The Laurie/Kronke/Wal-Mart cacpile of money being at the top of the list.
If you stretch odds out towards infinity, at some point they were going to get it right.
It doesn't matter. We're splitting them home-and-home at this point anyway. Painter isn't really going to make a significant dent in that. Overall, it will make them a much tougher team though. Could make local recruiting a little more difficult, but my guess is that he's going to probably still recruit Big Ten country for any non-KC players while we still go down to Texas and Florida.
Honestly, it's an upgrade for them, but I don't think it really hurts us all that much.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
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I just don't see someone leaving Purdue for MU.
New arena, good facilities, good conference that will soon be getting an infusion of cash and TV exposure, decent proximity to good recruiting areas, solid reputation on a national level, good academics..
It's a good job. They've just managed to underwhelm on nearly every hire for a really long time.
2 Million per year salary is a cacpile of Walmart money to throw at a coach.
The reality is money talks and there are a lot of other nice perks that you mentioned that make it a first rate job. The Laurie/Kronke/Wal-Mart cacpile of money being at the top of the list.
If you stretch odds out towards infinity, at some point they were going to get it right.
It doesn't matter. We're splitting them home-and-home at this point anyway. Painter isn't really going to make a significant dent in that. Overall, it will make them a much tougher team though. Could make local recruiting a little more difficult, but my guess is that he's going to probably still recruit Big Ten country for any non-KC players while we still go down to Texas and Florida.
Honestly, it's an upgrade for them, but I don't think it really hurts us all that much.
I think it makes the league collectively that much more difficult.
This potential hire + Gillespie at Tech is going to make the Big XII even more brutal than it already is. Hopefully OU airballs.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids? The area produces about 1-2 BCS caliber kids a year. A Marcus Denmon type player is available once every five years or so.
Don't really care about KC.
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DeArmond(SP) saying MU wants this wrapped up before the FF.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids? The area produces about 1-2 BCS caliber kids a year. A Marcus Denmon type player is available once every five years or so.
Don't really care about KC.
umm..yeah, it's kind of a big deal. regardless of their frequency. missing out on denmon was/is a huge f'ing deal.
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I think it makes the league collectively that much more difficult.
This potential hire + Gillespie at Tech is going to make the Big XII even more brutal than it already is. Hopefully OU airballs.
Absolutely. Gillespie was much more of an impact hire, IMO, because that's a basement team that could start to ascend pretty quickly, and now we have to play them twice a year instead of once, making that road game that much more difficult.
I mean, really, when you look at it top to bottom, this league is insane:
Kansas - Bill Self
Kansas State - Frank Martin
Missouri - Matt Painter (?)
Texas - Rick Barnes
Texas A&M - Mark Turgeon
Texas Tech - Billy Gillespie
Baylor - Scott Drew (Only here because he gets talent. Once the NCAA finally hammers him, we'll remove him from the list.)
I mean, who are the weak links? Travis Ford? Hoiberg? Good lord; that's brutal. Oklahoma will go out and get someone decent, so that will continue to make them a tough out.
All I know is that this league is going to provide some fantastic basketball in the next few years, and the coaches are going to be colorful, engaging, and fun to watch. I'm thrilled that we dropped two teams if I get to see 18 games of this every year.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
i suppose you're right. somehow kind of forgot how absolutely owned frank has been in kc.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids? The area produces about 1-2 BCS caliber kids a year. A Marcus Denmon type player is available once every five years or so.
Don't really care about KC.
umm..yeah, it's kind of a big deal. regardless of their frequency. missing out on denmon was/is a huge f'ing deal.
We're going to miss out on Denmon (and guys like him) as long as Missouri doesn't hire a complete dud.
It's all Mizzou/KU on this side of the line, dude. Go into a Dick's on the Missouri side, and there's one tiny rack of KSU gear. There are five or six for KU and MU apiece.
Unless we cultivate our own brand and style that attracts kids and bandwagon fans (which we're doing with Nike HyperElite backing, Martin's brash style, and our physical play (kind of like Huggins in the 90's), we're going to lose those kids.
That's why our marketing (all of this Nike love) is a huge, huge deal. Wearing black and gray is a huge deal. Our 'look' and 'brand' is what's going to separate us from the strong MU/KU love in KC.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
i suppose you're right. somehow kind of forgot how absolutely owned frank has been in kc.
It's built in to these kids, man. KSU hasn't been a player on this scene more than the last couple of years.
Now, five to ten more years of constant ESPN love and some sweet Nike branding...well, that may help a lot.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids? The area produces about 1-2 BCS caliber kids a year. A Marcus Denmon type player is available once every five years or so.
Don't really care about KC.
umm..yeah, it's kind of a big deal. regardless of their frequency. missing out on denmon was/is a huge f'ing deal.
We're going to miss out on Denmon (and guys like him) as long as Missouri doesn't hire a complete dud.
It's all Mizzou/KU on this side of the line, dude. Go into a Dick's on the Missouri side, and there's one tiny rack of KSU gear. There are five or six for KU and MU apiece.
Unless we cultivate our own brand and style that attracts kids and bandwagon fans (which we're doing with Nike HyperElite backing, Martin's brash style, and our physical play (kind of like Huggins in the 90's), we're going to lose those kids.
That's why our marketing (all of this Nike love) is a huge, huge deal. Wearing black and gray is a huge deal. Our 'look' and 'brand' is what's going to separate us from the strong MU/KU love in KC.
Playing style has to be taken into account too. Some have speculated that is why Mike didn't recruit better than he did. With a new coach coming in, odds are that he will not play the MA style of ball. Should increase MU's recruiting eventually.
This is one reason I hope we get our guard situ figured out to the point that we can play transition ball again. More fun to watch, and I would think more appealing to high level kids.
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I think BCG is a solid coach, but I also think his success is being overdone. A ridiculous turnaround season at UTEP and one very good season at aTm led by a player he inherited. And I'll give him getting DeAndre Jordan to aTm as well, but its not like he's won a bunch of league titles. Plus, he completely imploded at Kentucky and he'll have a very big rebuilding job at Tech. I see him having success at Tech similar to the elder Knight. No doubt he'll be capable of beating us, but he'll largely be competing to consistently be .500 or so in the league and a bubble/first weekend NCAA team.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
:surprised:
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Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids?
it's huge. absolutely huge. the best thing this staff has done since their arrival is developing their relationship with mokan.
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imo, Painter will out recruit us in KC.
Are they not already?
We're already the third option in the hearts and minds of kids in the metro. Painter moves them from an average two to a strong two. KU will always be #1.
We may have an advantage for some kids on the Kansas side, or some kids who think KSU is kind of a sexy pick with our particular brand of basketball. But we've always been a clear #2 with kids on the Missouri side of the line, and Painter isn't really going to make a big difference there.
Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids? The area produces about 1-2 BCS caliber kids a year. A Marcus Denmon type player is available once every five years or so.
Don't really care about KC.
umm..yeah, it's kind of a big deal. regardless of their frequency. missing out on denmon was/is a huge f'ing deal.
We're going to miss out on Denmon (and guys like him) as long as Missouri doesn't hire a complete dud.
It's all Mizzou/KU on this side of the line, dude. Go into a Dick's on the Missouri side, and there's one tiny rack of KSU gear. There are five or six for KU and MU apiece.
Unless we cultivate our own brand and style that attracts kids and bandwagon fans (which we're doing with Nike HyperElite backing, Martin's brash style, and our physical play (kind of like Huggins in the 90's), we're going to lose those kids.
That's why our marketing (all of this Nike love) is a huge, huge deal. Wearing black and gray is a huge deal. Our 'look' and 'brand' is what's going to separate us from the strong MU/KU love in KC.
we need a better coach then. all of that is bs, imo. it's about relationships with aau and kids. that's it. like anyone in Washington DC knew where the hell manhattan, ks was.
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Indiana fan called into 810 this morning and was remarking about how Painter's best players came from releases that Indiana granted to Kelvin's guys...that Purdue swooped in and scooped up players that they ordinarily would not have landed.
Any truth to that? I have no idea.
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And I'll give him getting DeAndre Jordan to aTm
package deal
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Indiana fan called into 810 this morning and was remarking about how Painter's best players came from releases that Indiana granted to Kelvin's guys...that Purdue swooped in and scooped up players that they ordinarily would not have landed.
Any truth to that? I have no idea.
I don't know that it had much to do with Sampson leaving, but they were being recruited by Sampson while things started going south with the NCAA at Indiana. Painter was able to find 4 top 75 (3 top 50) Indiana HS Players in Hummell, Moore, Martin, and Johnson. It didn't hurt that 3 of them played AAU ball together or that 2 went to HS together. It was a Top 5 class that year, but other than that Painter's recruiting has been good, but not great or outstanding. Plus, he had good success with that excellent class, but never got past the Sweet 16, granted, Hummell's injuries didn't help. He's a good coach who would get good players to Missouri, but IMHO neither he nor Gillispie are at the level of Barnes or Self.
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
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an average coach is all that takes to keep us out of kc, apparently.
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Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids?
it's huge. absolutely huge. the best thing this staff has done since their arrival is developing their relationship with mokan.
parody post? i can never tell anymore.
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
define consistently
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
define consistently
More often than not.
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
define consistently
More often than not.
So doing something 51% of the time is "consistent"?
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In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
i'd believe that when i see it. actually, more likely it'd be several years after i see it that i'd finally be able to believe it.
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parody post? i can never tell anymore.
not in any way. maybe a future emphasizing post.
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
define consistently
It will be interesting to follow. I respect BCG, he's a good coach and his teams play tough basketball, similar to Frank's. But this situation is a lot different from aTm; he isn't inheriting near the talent and will be building from the ground up. aTm had a ton of talent when he got there and we all know what happened at Kentucky. UTEP was a very impressive 2 year turnaround, but he still hasn't proven that he can stay at one place and build a program, he's never been one place more than 3 years.
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
define consistently
More often than not.
So doing something 51% of the time is "consistent"?
As long as it is a consistent 51%
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not scared of Tech fighting Clydes ... at all.
In a couple years, he will have them in the upper half consistently.
define consistently
More often than not.
So doing something 51% of the time is "consistent"?
How about "often"? Better?
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an average coach is all that takes to keep us out of kc, apparently.
You brought up Denmon. KC MO. Pump N' Run. We didn't really have an 'in' with that AAU organization, and Denmon grew up on the Missouri side.
Michael Dixon. Lee's Summit. KC Pump N' Run.
Those are the only two KC players Anderson signed during Martin's tenure. Nino Williams was a higher ranked player than either Denmon or Dixon.
We have a relationship with Mo-Kan. They got Pump N' Run. We got the kids on the Kansas side. They got the kids on the Missouri side. I don't foresee that changing all that much.
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So is Nino going to be good or what?
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I think they just mumped up the Denmon recruitment. 2008 recruiting was ridiculously bad.
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I think they just mumped up the Denmon recruitment.
getting a pnr player would be a minor miracle, no blame.
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So is Nino going to be good or what?
No idea.
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Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids?
it's huge. absolutely huge. the best thing this staff has done since their arrival is developing their relationship with mokan.
Have we recruited a mokan kid that was from the MO side?
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Is it really that big of a deal being the top school for KC kids?
it's huge. absolutely huge. the best thing this staff has done since their arrival is developing their relationship with mokan.
Have we recruited a mokan kid that was from the MO side?
Has there been a mokan kid from the MO side worth recruiting?
And we kind of recruited the russian dude that ended up at Ohio, I think.
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alec burks, frank williams (no offer), willie reed (no offer), ivo baltic as micat said. i think there were others with light recruitment.
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alec burks, frank williams (no offer), willie reed (no offer), ivo baltic as micat said. i think there were others with light recruitment.
How hard did we go after Burks? Were we always lukewarm, or did we just get in too late?
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alec burks, frank williams (no offer), willie reed (no offer), ivo baltic as micat said. i think there were others with light recruitment.
How hard did we go after Burks? Were we always lukewarm, or did we just get in too late?
He went to our elite camp and we brought him in for an official. We were not in too late (I'm pretty sure we were the first high major to actually offer)...he just picked CU.
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How did we not offer Reed?
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How did we not offer Reed?
That was the "we can get whoever the eff we want so we don't need to eff around with 3 stars" stage of KSU recruiting that led to the Buchi Awaji signing.
There were also scholarship number issues, if you believe that the staff really didn't know if Beasley and Walker would go pro.
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That was the "we can get whoever the eff we want so we don't need to eff around with 3 stars" stage of KSU recruiting that led to the Buchi Awaji signing.
There were also scholarship number issues, if you believe that the staff really didn't know if Beasley and Walker would go pro.
This post shows how much of a miracle it is that we are where we are