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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: ednksu on March 25, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
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http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2011/03/march-madness-if-you-root-against-kansas-you-root-against-america/72991/
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I guess I hate America then.
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I guess I hate America then.
Yep.
[Now where did I put that al Qaeda recruiting lettter?]
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Yep. I choose "leave it."
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Hampton Stevens writes for ESPN.com's Page 2 and ESPN the Magazine, as well as The Atlantic and TheAtlantic.com. He is at work on his first novel and lives in Kansas City, Missouri, where he lives with two dogs.
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What a crap article.
Jeremy Stahl makes good points and is completely right. No one likes the Yankees, no one likes the Lakers, or the Patriots outside of their bandwagon fans, just as no one likes KU.
This clown is about 2 IQ points shy of being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). None of this makes any sense.
Love his points about rooting for Richmond and you support Slavery. Root for KU and you support murdering innocent civilians because you're too rough ridin' incompetent to be able to find a few bearded guys in the woods....who are from MISSOURI of all places....not the smartest people in the world, nor the hardest to find.
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If you root against KU basketball, then, you are actually rooting for slavery. You're supporting the Confederacy over United States, cheering for racism, oppression, and war, and, not for nothing, you want President Obama to fail—all of which are certainly "odious" and "contemptible" by any reasonable definitions.
I thought all this was what squawk basketball stood for? :confused: Beems? Confused here :confused:
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Hampton Stevens writes for ESPN.com's Page 2 and ESPN the Magazine, as well as The Atlantic and TheAtlantic.com. He is at work on his first novel and lives in Kansas City, Missouri, where he lives with two dogs.
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ku girls?
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I hope the comment sections are being locked and loaded
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My god, do a little research, or (more likely) quit drinking the red and blue coolaid from your undergraduate days.
If you root against KU basketball, then, you are actually rooting for slavery.
James A. Naismith brought his newly-invented sport to Lawrence in 1898That kind of junk just isn't what Kansas Basketball is supposed to represent.KU may not be all snooty like Duke, with delusions of Ivy grandeur,Like Tyrel Reed, for instance. A senior from little Burlington, Kansas, Reed is not only living a childhood dream of playing for Kansas, he will graduate early, in three and a half years, and was named as a first-team Academic All-American.
Er, he either graduated early, or he will graduate in four years. Editor please.
Not for the Jayhawk Faithful, insanely committed and knowledgeable,
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i have no less than 5 people on my facebook that have posted that link and rcjh'd it up........and all of them are k-state grads. :flush:
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In this case, America can suck it.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
You guys better beat the hell out of Rich tonight. Make it ugly.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
i don't root for any team except the wild wild cats. seems like only losers root for more than one team. Sorry about your luck, JayhawkIchabod7
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I rough ridin' hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
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Kind of weird considering Lawrence is full of racists. I'm guessing the author has never left his Kansas City bubble. Doubt he's ever seen the campus
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my rough ridin' face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!
All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
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Jayhawk7 destroying everyone in this thread.
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go Jayhawks! beat Richmond! :emajkid:
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your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
you say this like it's a bad thing.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my effing face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!
All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
Sounds like a bunch of assholes that were a little too wet about our football victory. That was a great year for us. But come on, the football rivalry isn't really domination. I mean we lead 65-37. But looking at the last 15 years, we can't talk that much crap in the realm of football.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my effing face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!
All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
Sounds like a bunch of assholes that were a little too wet about our football victory. That was a great year for us. But come on, the football rivalry isn't really domination. I mean we lead 65-37. But looking at the last 15 years, we can't talk that much crap in the realm of football.
wtf kind of game are you trying to run here? I don't feel safe around you.
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Rock Chalk.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my effing face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!
All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
Sounds like a bunch of assholes that were a little too wet about our football victory. That was a great year for us. But come on, the football rivalry isn't really domination. I mean we lead 65-37. But looking at the last 15 years, we can't talk that much crap in the realm of football.
wtf kind of game are you trying to run here? I don't feel safe around you.
What are you asking me? I'm just being honest.
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GO WILDHAWKS!
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Rock MAW Jaycat!!!
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tsc
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
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I don't fully support tsc, but KU needs to win tonight.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Take a deep breath, son. Let go of the butt hurt.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Yet we still keep these titles? Never been vacated. Looks like everything you say is 100% correct. Pfft. Not. OregonHawk is right.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Take a deep breath, son. Let go of the butt hurt.
I really should. Maybe I should go on phog and post nearly 2600 times to make myself feel better.
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GO WILDHAWKS!
Absolutely. They are awesomely dirty and cheaty. Like when the US stole Indian land, Texas and such.
USA!
USA!
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UberButtHurtElite pointing out merely ButtHurtElite.
good stuff. :thumbsup:
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GO WILDHAWKS!
Absolutely. They are awesomely dirty and cheaty. Like when the US stole Indian land, Texas and such.
USA!
USA!
Trail of Tears to the Finals? :dunno:
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
I'm so glad no one on this board is mad that $70,000,000 in FEMA money went into building a new club section at Hilton, along with state of the art locker rooms, equipment, and weight training facilities. At least we aren't unpatriotic like KU!! :nono:
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Yet we still keep these titles? Never been vacated. Looks like everything you say is 100% correct. Pfft. Not. OregonHawk is right.
you left this out (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.head-fi.org%2F0%2F03%2F03def03d_OhSnapBear.jpg&hash=bd170d5aac6d57f4386df83befd9dc393af71192)
I'll assume you checked everything out. Did you notice how I never said that your conduct didn't have results? I mean its a pretty impressive resume. Not everyone can win like Duke, UCLA or UNC. Sometimes schools like KU have to do crap like this to even attempt to keep up with the elite schools.
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GO WILDHAWKS!
Absolutely. They are awesomely dirty and cheaty. Like when the US stole Indian land, Texas and such.
USA!
USA!
Trail of Tears to the Finals? :dunno:
:lol: :lol: :runaway: :lol: :lol:
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By the way, I'm pretty sure James Naismith invented the sport of basketball, ed.
:ohno:
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Yet we still keep these titles? Never been vacated. Looks like everything you say is 100% correct. Pfft. Not. OregonHawk is right.
you left this out (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.head-fi.org%2F0%2F03%2F03def03d_OhSnapBear.jpg&hash=bd170d5aac6d57f4386df83befd9dc393af71192)
I'll assume you checked everything out. Did you notice how I never said that your conduct didn't have results? I mean its a pretty impressive resume. Not everyone can win like Duke, UCLA or UNC. Sometimes schools like KU have to do cac like this to even attempt to keep up with the elite schools.
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Aaaaaand there it is. The number 1 thing fans of our rival teams go to. Trying to denounce our status as a blue blood. Try harder.
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By the way, I'm pretty sure James Naismith invented the sport of basketball, ed.
:ohno:
By the way, no he didn't :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
TO THE PHOG!!!!!!
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Yet we still keep these titles? Never been vacated. Looks like everything you say is 100% correct. Pfft. Not. OregonHawk is right.
you left this out (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.head-fi.org%2F0%2F03%2F03def03d_OhSnapBear.jpg&hash=bd170d5aac6d57f4386df83befd9dc393af71192)
I'll assume you checked everything out. Did you notice how I never said that your conduct didn't have results? I mean its a pretty impressive resume. Not everyone can win like Duke, UCLA or UNC. Sometimes schools like KU have to do cac like this to even attempt to keep up with the elite schools.
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Aaaaaand there it is. The number 1 thing fans of our rival teams go to. Trying to denounce our status as a blue blood. Try harder.
dude you guys have a great resume, i'm kinda jello-c. You guys just took a little bit different path to get there thats all.
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Rock Chalk!
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my effing face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!
All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
This x 1 with a lot of 0s behind it.
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Also, ed, here's something you might find interesting about UCLA:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206)
On one hand, UCLA has a tradition rich with success, class and glory. Good people, great stories, wonderful memories. On the other is the fact the Bruins eviscerated the rule book like no program before or after, but went largely unpunished by a NCAA that wanted no part of taking down its marquee team.
And the truth is, neither image is wrong. And neither one is right. This is college athletics, yesterday, today and probably forever, no matter how sweet the package, now matter how pretty the bow.
It is how Wooden, universally hailed for his remarkable grace and humility, has wound up seemingly beyond reproach. No matter how dirty his program, today he sells books, speeches and financial planning commercials based on his image of trust and honesty.
Look up Sam Gilbert and get back to me, ed. UCLA has about ten national titles that are tainted with the worst kind of cheating you can even imagine. Oh, and then there's Jim Harrick, who won a title at UCLA in 1995, and is known as one of the dirtiest college basketball coaches of all-time.
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By the way, I'm pretty sure James Naismith invented the sport of basketball, ed.
:ohno:
By the way, no he didn't :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
TO THE PHOG!!!!!!
Ummm.... yeah, he did. Even the other guy's family admitted it.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.
I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.
But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...
I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.
My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my effing face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!
All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
This x 1 with a lot of 0s behind it.
ben cares about us. he cares a lot. I think J7 might too.....I really hope so :shy:
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
your university has a history of conduct that includes fraud, theft, lying, tax evasion, more lying, support of criminals and a general lack of respect to any rules which govern athletics and society as a whole.
You're silly.
excellent retort. But you know I'm right. Your entire athletics tradition is founded on a tradition of theft.
Surely you're familiar with the concept of offering evidence or some sort of coherent argument. Granted, we are not 100% squeaky clean. Name me a major college basketball program who has never been in any trouble for anything. Right, I can't think of any either. Nice try though.
Also--to the racist comment? WHAT? I live in Lawrence. You are severely misguided in saying that.
now i know for sure you are a bandwagon fan. :dubious: sorry for going down this road. only someone who is serious about athletics should proceed.
Oh look! A cop out! Because you can't support your claims. Beautiful. I guess it's 'bandwagoning' when you were born and raised in Lawrence and have lived there all your life.
For serial?!?!
square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
Yet we still keep these titles? Never been vacated. Looks like everything you say is 100% correct. Pfft. Not. OregonHawk is right.
you left this out (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.head-fi.org%2F0%2F03%2F03def03d_OhSnapBear.jpg&hash=bd170d5aac6d57f4386df83befd9dc393af71192)
I'll assume you checked everything out. Did you notice how I never said that your conduct didn't have results? I mean its a pretty impressive resume. Not everyone can win like Duke, UCLA or UNC. Sometimes schools like KU have to do cac like this to even attempt to keep up with the elite schools.
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Aaaaaand there it is. The number 1 thing fans of our rival teams go to. Trying to denounce our status as a blue blood. Try harder.
dude you guys have a great resume, i'm kinda jello-c. You guys just took a little bit different path to get there thats all.
I'm done regarding you as a person even worth arguing with. Your main arguments are based on opinion and hearsay and bias. So many decent posters on here..you are certainly not one.
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square 1 naismith stole basketball
1988 title: only time a team has been prohibited from defending a title because of their cheating
2008 title: only time a team has won a title on probation.....but why were they on prob oh thats right Z LIST
-player paid, players had grades changed in high school which should have made them ineligible (du-rel arthur), players had tutors take test for them
your football field is named after a felon (kivisto field)
your athletic department defrauded the federal government and hindered the war effort during wwii by claiming Allen Field house was an "armory" thereby defrauding the government into allowing them more building materials which should have gone to making stuff to protect our soldiers, airmen and sailors
:zzz: <- except for winning titles is pretty damn impressive
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I'm done regarding you as a person even worth arguing with. Your main arguments are based on opinion and hearsay and bias. So many decent posters on here..you are certainly not one.
MCMW. learn it. know it. live it. own it and be proud of it.
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Also, ed, here's something you might find interesting about UCLA:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206)
On one hand, UCLA has a tradition rich with success, class and glory. Good people, great stories, wonderful memories. On the other is the fact the Bruins eviscerated the rule book like no program before or after, but went largely unpunished by a NCAA that wanted no part of taking down its marquee team.
And the truth is, neither image is wrong. And neither one is right. This is college athletics, yesterday, today and probably forever, no matter how sweet the package, now matter how pretty the bow.
It is how Wooden, universally hailed for his remarkable grace and humility, has wound up seemingly beyond reproach. No matter how dirty his program, today he sells books, speeches and financial planning commercials based on his image of trust and honesty.
Look up Sam Gilbert and get back to me, ed. UCLA has about ten national titles that are tainted with the worst kind of cheating you can even imagine. Oh, and then there's Jim Harrick, who won a title at UCLA in 1995, and is known as one of the dirtiest college basketball coaches of all-time.
improper benefits@!!!!!!! OMG !!!!!!!!
UCLA players recalled his showing up after Bruins games in the 1960s, dispensing apples and oranges.
so much Ironing that you post about that. *waits for ben to see the irony of posting that story*
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I don't have much respect for any KU fan who actually claims the '22 and '23 "titles." You guys have 3 that you actually WON. No need to claim to have two extra ones that some dude proclaimed 20 years after the fact.
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I'm done regarding you as a person even worth arguing with. Your main arguments are based on opinion and hearsay and bias. So many decent posters on here..you are certainly not one.
JFC, sqwawk condescension at its worst. GTFOMB
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look J7 I was just rough ridin' with you and now you are trying to hurt my feelings and I don't appreciate it. You asked for reason why people don't like KU. People responded. You said you wanted specifics. I provided facts for you. Then I joked a bit more because I thought we were growing together. Now you are just being mean for no reason. You haven't even refuted the facts I presented
oh and Beems can you provide a link to something about the family admitting he didn't invent it. I mean there is a pic out there.
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Also, ed, here's something you might find interesting about UCLA:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206)
On one hand, UCLA has a tradition rich with success, class and glory. Good people, great stories, wonderful memories. On the other is the fact the Bruins eviscerated the rule book like no program before or after, but went largely unpunished by a NCAA that wanted no part of taking down its marquee team.
And the truth is, neither image is wrong. And neither one is right. This is college athletics, yesterday, today and probably forever, no matter how sweet the package, now matter how pretty the bow.
It is how Wooden, universally hailed for his remarkable grace and humility, has wound up seemingly beyond reproach. No matter how dirty his program, today he sells books, speeches and financial planning commercials based on his image of trust and honesty.
Look up Sam Gilbert and get back to me, ed. UCLA has about ten national titles that are tainted with the worst kind of cheating you can even imagine. Oh, and then there's Jim Harrick, who won a title at UCLA in 1995, and is known as one of the dirtiest college basketball coaches of all-time.
improper benefits@!!!!!!! OMG !!!!!!!!
UCLA players recalled his showing up after Bruins games in the 1960s, dispensing apples and oranges.
so much Ironing that you post about that. *waits for ben to see the irony of posting that story*
"I hate to say anything that may hurt UCLA, but I can't be quiet when I see what the NCAA is doing (to other coaches) only because (they have) a reputation for giving a second chance to many black athletes other coaches have branded as troublemakers. The NCAA is working night and day trying to get (them), but no one from the NCAA ever questioned me during my four years at UCLA."
That quote comes from none other than Bill Walton, maybe the greatest Bruin of them all, in a 1978 book "Bill Walton: On the Road with the Portland Trail Blazers," which went on to detail how Sam Gilbert, a Los Angeles contractor the feds allege made millions laundering drug money, bought a decade worth of recruits for UCLA.
Love the double standard, ed. It's obvious that UCLA has always done things "the right way."
:lol:
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I don't have much respect for any KU fan who actually claims the '22 and '23 "titles." You guys have 3 that you actually WON. No need to claim to have two extra ones that some dude proclaimed 20 years after the fact.
they can't claim the 09-10 conference title like we can. :ksu:
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Being serious, KU could have a tough time with FSU if they both move on. Noles defense is incredible.
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Also, ed, here's something you might find interesting about UCLA:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206)
On one hand, UCLA has a tradition rich with success, class and glory. Good people, great stories, wonderful memories. On the other is the fact the Bruins eviscerated the rule book like no program before or after, but went largely unpunished by a NCAA that wanted no part of taking down its marquee team.
And the truth is, neither image is wrong. And neither one is right. This is college athletics, yesterday, today and probably forever, no matter how sweet the package, now matter how pretty the bow.
It is how Wooden, universally hailed for his remarkable grace and humility, has wound up seemingly beyond reproach. No matter how dirty his program, today he sells books, speeches and financial planning commercials based on his image of trust and honesty.
Look up Sam Gilbert and get back to me, ed. UCLA has about ten national titles that are tainted with the worst kind of cheating you can even imagine. Oh, and then there's Jim Harrick, who won a title at UCLA in 1995, and is known as one of the dirtiest college basketball coaches of all-time.
improper benefits@!!!!!!! OMG !!!!!!!!
UCLA players recalled his showing up after Bruins games in the 1960s, dispensing apples and oranges.
so much Ironing that you post about that. *waits for ben to see the irony of posting that story*
"I hate to say anything that may hurt UCLA, but I can't be quiet when I see what the NCAA is doing (to other coaches) only because (they have) a reputation for giving a second chance to many black athletes other coaches have branded as troublemakers. The NCAA is working night and day trying to get (them), but no one from the NCAA ever questioned me during my four years at UCLA."
That quote comes from none other than Bill Walton, maybe the greatest Bruin of them all, in a 1978 book "Bill Walton: On the Road with the Portland Trail Blazers," which went on to detail how Sam Gilbert, a Los Angeles contractor the feds allege made millions laundering drug money, bought a decade worth of recruits for UCLA.
Love the double standard, ed. It's obvious that UCLA has always done things "the right way."
:lol:
you still don't see the irony in posting that do you.
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Sam Gilbert. A little walking around money, food in the fridge, some clothes, hanging out at his pool and dinner.
BFD.
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Rock Chalk!
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LEAPER!!!!!
That's his nicname right? Been too long. Loved watching go get the tee after kick-offs.
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oh and Beems can you provide a link to something about the family admitting he didn't invent it. I mean there is a pic out there.
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/10/2716322_theory-that-lambert-will-invented.html?storylink=omni_popular (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/10/2716322_theory-that-lambert-will-invented.html?storylink=omni_popular)
Rick Will said his grandfather was an impressive man, but even he doesn’t believe Lambert Will invented the game.
“That was Naismith’s idea,” said Rick Will, 62. “He never denied that.”
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oh and Beems can you provide a link to something about the family admitting he didn't invent it. I mean there is a pic out there.
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/10/2716322_theory-that-lambert-will-invented.html?storylink=omni_popular (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/10/2716322_theory-that-lambert-will-invented.html?storylink=omni_popular)
Rick Will said his grandfather was an impressive man, but even he doesn’t believe Lambert Will invented the game.
“That was Naismith’s idea,” said Rick Will, 62. “He never denied that.”
By KENT BABB
The Kansas City Star
pfftttt...need a credible source pls. tia.
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In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
You were pulling for us because we're easy to love. We're rough ridin' adorable from our take-no-crap coach down to our pimple-faced, squeaky-voiced Kansan freshman.
I root against you this year because you have a bunch of worthless human beings on the team. Little beats women (deal breaker for me). The McMorris thugs throw elbows, shoot old ladies with BB guns and wreck other people's car whilst commenting attempted statutory rape. Morningstar is a spoiled little rich kid who thinks he can "do you know who I am?" his way out of a DUI and has a white-collar criminal for a father. TieShauwn is an ignorant thug that starts campus brawls with the football team.
Overall, I have no problem with KU in general. Didn't have a problem at all with your '08 team that won it all. KU has always been good at cheating and I actually kind of admire them for that. This year over half your team is just a bunch of thugish woman beaters and dirty players. Got no love.
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Sam Gilbert. A little walking around money, food in the fridge, some clothes, hanging out at his pool and dinner.
BFD.
:surprised:
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The point is UberButtHurtElite Ben . . . is that multiple AAU sources know that ku "spent" more money keeping Dick Rub and the Tooth around another year (just one example) than Sam Gilbert likely spent during the entire run at UCLA.
I don't have a problem with it, like I've said before, I've claimed for years that K-State needs to close the gap on cheating with ku.
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Also, ed, here's something you might find interesting about UCLA:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-uclalegacy040206)
On one hand, UCLA has a tradition rich with success, class and glory. Good people, great stories, wonderful memories. On the other is the fact the Bruins eviscerated the rule book like no program before or after, but went largely unpunished by a NCAA that wanted no part of taking down its marquee team.
And the truth is, neither image is wrong. And neither one is right. This is college athletics, yesterday, today and probably forever, no matter how sweet the package, now matter how pretty the bow.
It is how Wooden, universally hailed for his remarkable grace and humility, has wound up seemingly beyond reproach. No matter how dirty his program, today he sells books, speeches and financial planning commercials based on his image of trust and honesty.
Look up Sam Gilbert and get back to me, ed. UCLA has about ten national titles that are tainted with the worst kind of cheating you can even imagine. Oh, and then there's Jim Harrick, who won a title at UCLA in 1995, and is known as one of the dirtiest college basketball coaches of all-time.
improper benefits@!!!!!!! OMG !!!!!!!!
UCLA players recalled his showing up after Bruins games in the 1960s, dispensing apples and oranges.
so much Ironing that you post about that. *waits for ben to see the irony of posting that story*
"I hate to say anything that may hurt UCLA, but I can't be quiet when I see what the NCAA is doing (to other coaches) only because (they have) a reputation for giving a second chance to many black athletes other coaches have branded as troublemakers. The NCAA is working night and day trying to get (them), but no one from the NCAA ever questioned me during my four years at UCLA."
That quote comes from none other than Bill Walton, maybe the greatest Bruin of them all, in a 1978 book "Bill Walton: On the Road with the Portland Trail Blazers," which went on to detail how Sam Gilbert, a Los Angeles contractor the feds allege made millions laundering drug money, bought a decade worth of recruits for UCLA.
Love the double standard, ed. It's obvious that UCLA has always done things "the right way."
:lol:
you still don't see the irony in posting that do you.
:ohno: :ohno:
seriously though, Babb wrote a crap piece. Naismith jr II sounds like a real psycho and fat. I'll trust Grand daddy's own pen and pics over Babb and crew threatening or bribing a good American family.
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Jayhawk7:
Please learn to bbs better, no one wants to read 30 quotes in one post, most of which are no longer relevant. Just keep the important ones. The other posts are archived in the thread if someone wants to go back and read them. TIA.
Also, I enjoy your sig that includes the asterisks, except I don't recall any reason for '52 championship having one. Seems like it was legitimate, and congratulations are in order.
In this case, America can suck it.
Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.
Just curious.
1. Their crowd is so overrated by the national media. It is probably the 3rd or 4th loudest place to play in the Big 12. (OOD, Paige Laurie, Pickens Palace, The Flood Plain).
2. Bandwagon fans
--There are so many KU bball / Nubb or KSU football fans. IDGAF if that is how you grew up. Its pathetic. Most of those fans also attend JCCC, WSU, Pitt State, Rock U, etc. I don't have much of a problem with KU fans who attend school there or are alums.
What do most KU fans have in common with Elton John?
They didn't go to KU either.
3. For some reason until the Morris thugs got some attention for being cheap bastards this season, they seem to keep a Duke like squeaky clean image which is a joke.
I'd go on, but I'm risking a few MartaviousDNRs already.
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weird thread
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I don't really give a eff who invented the game, but who sounds more reasonable here:
Before long he’s screaming, out of breath.
“I’m ready to kick some ass,” he said. “I will hurt somebody. Whoever says it can face me, and I’m 260 pounds.”
But to Ian Naismith, this is more than a theory. These are fighting words.
“This is the first family of basketball,” he said. “Don’t call my grandfather a liar.”
“I’m sure — more than sure — that my grandfather had a lot to do with the history of basketball,” he said. “He (Naismith) invented the idea. He just didn’t invent the whole game. There’s plenty of room for skepticism.”
Who knows what’s really true and what’s not?” Lawrence said. “A lot of the history that kids read in books, let’s face it, it’s just not true. It gets changed. It gets lost. It gets reinvented and claimed.
“We all wish we knew the exact thing. I just wish my grandfather got a little more credit than he did. Who deserves more credit? Who did what? Who will ever know?”
Naismith sounds like $2MM trust fund baby that prolly claims to have played AAU ball somewhere or something Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like that. Perfect butt hurt KU fan.
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kstate fans are supposed to hate KU and KU fans are supposed to hate kstate. WHO CARES! I want kstate to lose every game they play and I don't give a crap if it is "good for the conference" or not! I will say however, Pullen was tough to hate. I do like coming over here and fighting with you guys better than reading some of the crap on the KU boards, you keep me on my toes.
hate you all very much!!
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Invalidation factor: high and rising
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What are these schools that you guys are talking about? I just found out who Laurie Koehn was like 15 minutes ago. Slow the eff down.
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I believe strongly in profiling.
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kstate fans are supposed to hate KU and KU fans are supposed to hate kstate. WHO CARES! I want kstate to lose every game they play and I don't give a crap if it is "good for the conference" or not! I will say however, Pullen was tough to hate. I do like coming over here and fighting with you guys better than reading some of the crap on the KU boards, you keep me on my toes.
hate you all very much!!
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What are these schools that you guys are talking about? I just found out who Laurie Koehn was like 15 minutes ago. Slow the eff down.
...KU and KSU are schools?
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Saw some fuckhead at Dillons last night in a K-State fb shirt and a Ku bb hat "accidentally" clipped his heal with my cart in line to check out.
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Invalidation factor: high and rising
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should I just post if for you? sucks when you don't even try to play along.
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This is absolutely perfect. The Naismiths do NOT look good in that article. And the Wills look like perfectly reasonable people, with actual evidence that their ancestor at the very LEAST had SOMETHING to do with the invention of the game.
I don't really give a eff who invented the game, but who sounds more reasonable here:
Before long he’s screaming, out of breath.
“I’m ready to kick some ass,” he said. “I will hurt somebody. Whoever says it can face me, and I’m 260 pounds.”
But to Ian Naismith, this is more than a theory. These are fighting words.
“This is the first family of basketball,” he said. “Don’t call my grandfather a liar.”
“I’m sure — more than sure — that my grandfather had a lot to do with the history of basketball,” he said. “He (Naismith) invented the idea. He just didn’t invent the whole game. There’s plenty of room for skepticism.”
Who knows what’s really true and what’s not?” Lawrence said. “A lot of the history that kids read in books, let’s face it, it’s just not true. It gets changed. It gets lost. It gets reinvented and claimed.
“We all wish we knew the exact thing. I just wish my grandfather got a little more credit than he did. Who deserves more credit? Who did what? Who will ever know?”
Naismith sounds like $2MM trust fund baby that prolly claims to have played AAU ball somewhere or something Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like that. Perfect butt hurt KU fan.
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This is absolutely perfect. The Naismiths do NOT look good in that article. And the Wills look like perfectly reasonable people, with actual evidence that their ancestor at the very LEAST had SOMETHING to do with the invention of the game.
What game? Thought we were talking about schools. Help?
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This is absolutely perfect. The Naismiths do NOT look good in that article. And the Wills look like perfectly reasonable people, with actual evidence that their ancestor at the very LEAST had SOMETHING to do with the invention of the game.
What game? Thought we were talking about schools. Help?
Are you drunk?
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I'm lost. I laid down a trail of skittles to find my way out, but somebody ate them all. Seriously though, Google Laurie Koehn. He could ball hard.
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It absolutely blows my mind how much stupid emanates from some of you people. The drivel that continues to slowly drool out of your brains is mindbendingly idiotic.
Note: That is not to everyone on here.
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It absolutely blows my mind how much stupid emanates from some of you people. The drivel that continues to slowly drool out of your brains is mindbendingly idiotic.
Note: That is not to everyone on here.
They make for a great case study, though.
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It absolutely blows my mind how much stupid emanates from some of you people. The drivel that continues to slowly drool out of your brains is mindbendingly idiotic.
Note: That is not to everyone on here.
Thanks, man. And I concur. There are some flat out retards that post on here. Real rough ridin' mouth breathers.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGuhZvO1DKg
This is so KU, warm up your real americans & home of the chiefs.
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babytears and hillwalking need to come back, like, yesterday
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babytears and hillwalking need to come back, like, yesterday
Kyles
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babytears and hillwalking need to come back, like, yesterday
Kyles
yeah him and jayhawker too
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the winner winner chicken dinner guy.
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this thread :love:
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this thread :love:
you're ugly.
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kstate fans are supposed to hate KU and KU fans are supposed to hate kstate. WHO CARES! I want kstate to lose every game they play and I don't give a crap if it is "good for the conference" or not!
A sqwawk fan I can respect. Not butthurts like beams and 7 who can't get why anyone wouldn't worship their cacy, cheating school.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansascity.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F03%2F10%2F23%2FHerkimer_1891_03-11-2011_E71KDF6A.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg&hash=50791acc3687099d23256c44df94f7987570224c)
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It absolutely blows my mind how much stupid emanates from some of you people. The drivel that continues to slowly drool out of your brains is mindbendingly idiotic.
Note: That is not to everyone on here.
My I write on your "Note to self" pad? Okay, thanks
(Writing quickly.)
I'm too good for these guys--don't visit goEMAW.com anymore.
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this thread :love:
you played like crap last night
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babytears and hillwalking need to come back, like, yesterday
Kyles
proudest moment of my....sniff....life
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http://www.vpr.net/episode/33157/
other members of his family think Will did it. They just live in fear everyday from mouth breather Ian Naismith.
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http://www.vpr.net/episode/33157/
other members of his family think Will did it. They just live in fear everyday from mouth breather Ian Naismith.
http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Herkimer_YMCA (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Herkimer_YMCA)
From wikipedia.org/James_Naismith:
"There is some evidence that Dr. Naismith borrowed components for the game of basketball from Lambert G. Will.[11] This evidence disputes the claim that Dr. Naismith was the sole inventor of the game. A team photo shows Will's team with a dated basketball before Naismith's claim of having the first game.[12]"
If Naismith invented basketball in Dec 1891 and said the first formal game wasn't played until 1892, how come Lambert Will is shown in a team photo of his 1891-1892 basketball team?
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http://www.vpr.net/episode/33157/
other members of his family think Will did it. They just live in fear everyday from mouth breather Ian Naismith.
http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Herkimer_YMCA (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Herkimer_YMCA)
From wikipedia.org/James_Naismith:
"There is some evidence that Dr. Naismith borrowed components for the game of basketball from Lambert G. Will.[11] This evidence disputes the claim that Dr. Naismith was the sole inventor of the game. A team photo shows Will's team with a dated basketball before Naismith's claim of having the first game.[12]"
If Naismith invented basketball in Dec 1891 and said the first formal game wasn't played until 1892, how come Lambert Will is shown in a team photo of his 1891-1892 basketball team?
That fat hillbilly Naismith needs to move on. You got your pay day by duping some fool into buying the (clearly altered after the fact) rules that were made after Will invented the game, get over it. You got paid.
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So slavery won out?
Seff must have seen this article and figured "I wouldn't mind seeing slavery legally come back "