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Title: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2011, 11:27:06 PM
So, the most dangerous team in the conference next season needs a new coach.   
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 19, 2011, 11:28:35 PM
confirmed?  where?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 19, 2011, 11:28:42 PM
Marcus Denmon you idiot.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KSUTOMMY on March 19, 2011, 11:28:56 PM
So, the most dangerous team in the conference next season needs a new coach.   

Quote from: Mike Anderson
"That's it... I'm done with this place."
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on March 19, 2011, 11:56:13 PM
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/27987863 (http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/27987863)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2011, 12:01:15 AM
Yes.  Mizzou meltdown is a bit of good news.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
the "source" is backing off. Anderson is a dick for not shutting this down.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2011, 12:06:30 AM
the "source" is backing off. Anderson is a dick for not shutting this down.

Backing off that it's a done deal, not backing off that there is a deal in the works. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2011, 12:10:48 AM
the "source" is backing off. Anderson is a dick for not shutting this down.

Backing off that it's a done deal, not backing off that there is a deal in the works. 

"deal in the works," how rough ridin' vague is that. You can legitimately claim that about any two parties that have had contact with each other.


lol @ Mizz. fans though. Anderson is a loose whore.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2011, 12:12:11 AM
the "source" is backing off. Anderson is a dick for not shutting this down.

Backing off that it's a done deal, not backing off that there is a deal in the works. 

"deal in the works," how effing vague is that. You can legitimately claim that about any two parties that have had contact with each other.


lol @ Mizz. fans though. Anderson is a loose whore.

3rd time in 3 years. Mizzou fans should be pushing him out the door.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2011, 12:14:17 AM
"deal in the works," how rough ridin' vague is that.

When Gary Parrish reports it, it means that Anderson is going to be the coach at Arkansas.  This isn't Fitz we're dealing with.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 20, 2011, 12:15:09 AM
Mizzou should say eff this and hire Nolan Richardson.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 20, 2011, 12:17:12 AM
Anderson is trying to claim BITB when it comes to contract negotiations. LOL @ all of you that don't understand that.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2011, 12:19:25 AM
"deal in the works," how rough ridin' vague is that.

When Gary Parrish reports it, it means that Anderson is going to be the coach at Arkansas.  This isn't Fitz we're dealing with.

yeah, he better be right. Mizz fans won't let him hear the end of it, if he's wrong.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 20, 2011, 12:25:53 AM
3rd time in 3 years. Mizzou fans should be pushing him out the door.

he's gotta know that he's going too far with this.  with his history the last couple years, he either has to kill this tomorrow or leave.  'cause if he lets this fester in the media, but comes back, he'll have killed three straight trips to the tourney worth of goodwill.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 12:28:38 AM
3rd time in 3 years. Mizzou fans should be pushing him out the door.

he's gotta know that he's going too far with this.  with his history the last couple years, he either has to kill this tomorrow or leave.  'cause if he lets this fester in the media, but comes back, he'll have killed three straight trips to the tourney worth of goodwill.


Too late regardless.  If mike doesn't jump and he doesn't make a run  in the next few years, they will make his decision for him.  A lot of them hate him.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 20, 2011, 12:32:13 AM
If Mike was staying at Missouri, he'd have come out and dismissed these rumors by now.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 12:33:20 AM
If Mike was staying at Missouri, he'd have come out and dismissed these rumors by now.

He didn't the last two times this happened.  he didn't say crap until he either got a raise, or was told publicly that MU wouldn't be competing financially.

Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2011, 12:35:51 AM
Anderson is trying to claim BITB when it comes to contract negotiations. LOL @ all of you that don't understand that.

how can he get more money? Has he done crap the last two years??
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 20, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
Anderson is trying to claim BITB when it comes to contract negotiations. LOL @ all of you that don't understand that.

how can he get more money? Has he done crap the last two years??
doesn't necessarily need to be more money from mizzou does it?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: slimz on March 20, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
3rd time in 3 years. Mizzou fans should be pushing him out the door.

he's gotta know that he's going too far with this.  with his history the last couple years, he either has to kill this tomorrow or leave.  'cause if he lets this fester in the media, but comes back, he'll have killed three straight trips to the tourney worth of goodwill.

This.  Like the 3rd straight flirtation, and now that he's run out of relatives to recruit and is losing in the first round, Mizzou can't think he's the next hot thing. The smart move here is for Anderson to get to Arky and buy himself another 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: cas4ksu on March 20, 2011, 12:46:55 AM
Wonder who would Mizzou target if MA did leave?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 20, 2011, 12:48:09 AM
Anderson is trying to claim BITB when it comes to contract negotiations. LOL @ all of you that don't understand that.

how can he get more money? Has he done crap the last two years??
doesn't necessarily need to be more money from mizzou does it?

well I just got mind mumped.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 20, 2011, 12:48:56 AM
Wonder who would Mizzou target if MA did leave?

Read a ridiculous twitter rumor that they actually thought they could get Tom Izzo.
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 12:51:00 AM
Wonder who would Mizzou target if MA did leave?

Read a ridiculous twitter rumor that they actually thought they could get Tom Izzo.
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Holy Christ.  This is going to get good.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: cas4ksu on March 20, 2011, 12:52:03 AM
Wonder who would Mizzou target if MA did leave?

Read a ridiculous twitter rumor that they actually thought they could get Tom Izzo.
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Oh my...

Mizzou is going to have to get someone that is a pretty big name, or else I could see the Pressey's heading out of town.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 20, 2011, 12:52:27 AM
Wonder who would Mizzou target if MA did leave?

Read a ridiculous twitter rumor that they actually thought they could get Tom Izzo.
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Holy Christ.  This is going to get good.

A friend of mine in athletics dept at MU said the list is as follows:

1.) Tom Izzo
2.) John Wooden
3.) Phil Jackson
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 12:52:50 AM
If you don't go over to tigerboard to laugh at those dudes, you are missing out.  Never, ever been to a final 4 but think they are Duke.

Only other fan board besides shagy that I read.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: j-dub on March 20, 2011, 12:53:31 AM
Wonder who would Mizzou target if MA did leave?

Read a ridiculous twitter rumor that they actually thought they could get Tom Izzo.
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




would take.

Oh my...

Mizzou is going to have to get someone that is a pretty big name, or else I could see the Pressey's heading out of town.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: 0.42 on March 20, 2011, 12:54:11 AM
If you don't go over to tigerboard to laugh at those dudes, you are missing out.  Never, ever been to a final 4 but think they are Duke.

Only other fan board besides shagy that I read.

if you can get past the geocities format (which, admittedly, is a pretty gigantic rough ridin' hurdle), this is 100% spot on.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 20, 2011, 12:56:00 AM
If you don't go over to tigerboard to laugh at those dudes, you are missing out.  Never, ever been to a final 4 but think they are Duke.

Only other fan board besides shagy that I read.

if you can get past the geocities format (which, admittedly, is a pretty gigantic rough ridin' hurdle), this is 100% spot on.

I set up a better website than that about rough ridin' guitars in my sophomore web design class.  JFC.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: cas4ksu on March 20, 2011, 12:57:37 AM
If you don't go over to tigerboard to laugh at those dudes, you are missing out.  Never, ever been to a final 4 but think they are Duke.

Only other fan board besides shagy that I read.

if you can get past the geocities format (which, admittedly, is a pretty gigantic rough ridin' hurdle), this is 100% spot on.

No kidding. Tigerboard is incredible though. Just an unbearable format.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 01:01:54 AM
If you don't go over to tigerboard to laugh at those dudes, you are missing out.  Never, ever been to a final 4 but think they are Duke.

Only other fan board besides shagy that I read.

if you can get past the geocities format (which, admittedly, is a pretty gigantic effing hurdle), this is 100% spot on.

No kidding. Tigerboard is incredible though. Just an unbearable format.

weird thing is, they admit it's horrible but won't change.  There is a lot of quality bbs'ing on there but the site is a joke to read.  clicking on each post
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 20, 2011, 01:05:08 AM
the site is a joke to read.  clicking on each post

oldtigerboard.com.  thread view.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 20, 2011, 01:25:48 AM
Maybe Missouri will hire a former player who had a decent NBA career but had no head coaching experience at any level.  :woot:

Do they have any players in the NBA?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 20, 2011, 01:27:14 AM
Maybe Missouri will hire a former player who had a decent NBA career but had no head coaching experience at any level.  :woot:

Do they have any players in the NBA?

Kareem Rush  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 20, 2011, 01:44:14 AM
3rd time in 3 years. Mizzou fans should be pushing him out the door.

he's gotta know that he's going too far with this.  with his history the last couple years, he either has to kill this tomorrow or leave.  'cause if he lets this fester in the media, but comes back, he'll have killed three straight trips to the tourney worth of goodwill.

This.  Like the 3rd straight flirtation, and now that he's run out of relatives to recruit and is losing in the first round, Mizzou can't think he's the next hot thing. The smart move here is for Anderson to get to Arky and buy himself another 2-3 years.

All due respect of course, but your line of thinking doesn't make much sense here.  He isn't leaving Mizzou to buy more time.  Next year would have been the best team he has ever had, this year was the need to buy time year.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: jtksu on March 20, 2011, 01:48:13 AM
Fredrick Kristian Hoiberg's don't exactly grow on trees, Hav.  (Maybe that's just because all the trees in Ames are underwater?)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 09:41:57 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 10:04:25 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
backing off a little now, saying its heating up.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2011, 10:07:27 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
backing off a little now, saying its heating up.

http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664 (http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664)

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Source says Anderson told top recruit Otto Porter last night that Anderson would be at #Mizzou next year.

I don't know if anyone really knows what is going on here.

I think a lot of this smoke is coming from the Arkansas side, and those guys are batshit crazy.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 10:09:12 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
backing off a little now, saying its heating up.

http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664 (http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664)

Quote
Source says Anderson told top recruit Otto Porter last night that Anderson would be at #Mizzou next year.

I don't know if anyone really knows what is going on here.

I think a lot of this smoke is coming from the Arkansas side, and those guys are batcac crazy.

But the DeArmonds are just as crazy.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: O-town Kat on March 20, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
Truman the tiger has downs syndrome.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
backing off a little now, saying its heating up.

http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664 (http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664)

Quote
Source says Anderson told top recruit Otto Porter last night that Anderson would be at #Mizzou next year.

I don't know if anyone really knows what is going on here.

I think a lot of this smoke is coming from the Arkansas side, and those guys are batcac crazy.

But the DeArmonds are just as crazy.

Mike is nuts, sure.  I don't really have anything on Gabe other than what I hear on 810.  He's actually kind of funny.

Regardless, I'm not sure this isn't all coming from some Arkansas boosters that think they can just exert their will and assume that Anderson isn't playing them for an extension and will accept their offer sight on seen.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
backing off a little now, saying its heating up.

http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664 (http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664)

Quote
Source says Anderson told top recruit Otto Porter last night that Anderson would be at #Mizzou next year.

I don't know if anyone really knows what is going on here.

I think a lot of this smoke is coming from the Arkansas side, and those guys are batcac crazy.

But the DeArmonds are just as crazy.

Mike is nuts, sure.  I don't really have anything on Gabe other than what I hear on 810.  He's actually kind of funny.

Regardless, I'm not sure this isn't all coming from some Arkansas boosters that think they can just exert their will and assume that Anderson isn't playing them for an extension and will accept their offer sight on seen.

I don't think MU will give yet ANOTHER extension or raise.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2011, 10:30:11 AM
@RAZORBACKWIRE tweeting that it is a done deal.
backing off a little now, saying its heating up.

http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664 (http://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/49484259026673664)

Quote
Source says Anderson told top recruit Otto Porter last night that Anderson would be at #Mizzou next year.

I don't know if anyone really knows what is going on here.

I think a lot of this smoke is coming from the Arkansas side, and those guys are batcac crazy.

But the DeArmonds are just as crazy.

Mike is nuts, sure.  I don't really have anything on Gabe other than what I hear on 810.  He's actually kind of funny.

Regardless, I'm not sure this isn't all coming from some Arkansas boosters that think they can just exert their will and assume that Anderson isn't playing them for an extension and will accept their offer sight on seen.

I don't think MU will give yet ANOTHER extension or raise.

No, I don't either.  I don't know if he's playing that game though.  I feel pretty confident UA is going to pay whatever they need to get who they want.  They won't let money be the deciding factor.

I have a weird feeling Greg Marshall ends up there.  Just a hunch.  No sources.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 20, 2011, 10:35:04 AM
I think it will be Anderson.  He is a snake.  They (mu fans) hate to admit it, but it is true.  He is just above Drew.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 20, 2011, 10:36:20 AM
Maybe Missouri will hire a former player who had a decent NBA career but had no head coaching experience at any level.  :woot:

Do they have any players in the NBA?

Kareem Rush  :horrorsurprise:

And Kleiza.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2011, 10:36:54 AM
No, I don't either.  I don't know if he's playing that game though.  I feel pretty confident UA is going to pay whatever they need to get who they want.  They won't let money be the deciding factor.

I have a weird feeling Greg Marshall ends up there.   Just a hunch.  No sources.

no way.  there will be a good coach who wants that job, just hope it isn't ours.  mike should take the job.  Ark's recruiting class is good, he can have the pressey's transfer and in two years they'll be ridiculous.  

if somehow mike leaves, frank should be working tirelessly to someohow get denmon to transfer and figure out how to get around the 2year sit out thing.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 20, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
Sunvold (sp)!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2011, 11:12:11 AM
No, I don't either.  I don't know if he's playing that game though.  I feel pretty confident UA is going to pay whatever they need to get who they want.  They won't let money be the deciding factor.

I have a weird feeling Greg Marshall ends up there.   Just a hunch.  No sources.

no way.  there will be a good coach who wants that job, just hope it isn't ours.  mike should take the job.  Ark's recruiting class is good, he can have the pressey's transfer and in two years they'll be ridiculous.  

if somehow mike leaves, frank should be working tirelessly to someohow get denmon to transfer and figure out how to get around the 2year sit out thing.

The more I dig into it, the more I don't know.  How would you feel as a coach if you're walking into a job where the last coach got fired after bringing in a Top 10 class?

Good coach?  Sure.  Good BCS coach?  I don't know.  It could end up like the shitshow that took place after NU fired Solich.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 20, 2011, 12:03:42 PM
The eldest pressey went jc out of hs, does anyone know if he still has a rs so he can follow his "Uncle Mike"?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
mike is kind of wiping his ass with MU, either way. nice twitter recap. 

http://www.hogdb.com/2011/03/20/mike-anderson-arkansas-rumor-a-twitter-timeline/ (http://www.hogdb.com/2011/03/20/mike-anderson-arkansas-rumor-a-twitter-timeline/)

the last two are hilarious, imo.

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Jack Harry of NBC Action News in Kansas City says Mike Anderson may have priced himself out of the Arkansas job.

Mike Anderson might have priced himself out of Arkansas job. Razorbacks reportedly waiting to talk to Buzz Wiilliams of Marquette.
4:17 PM March 20, 2011 via TweetDeck
JACK HARRY
JACKHARRYKSHB

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jimmie Tramel of TulsaWorld.com:

Regarding Mike Anderson speculation: It’s my understanding that if Arkansas hits an asking price, he’s calling the Hogs. #breakthebank?
4:43 PM March 20, 2011 via web
Jimmie Tramel
JimmieTramel
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
Don't get why they would want Mike so bad, especially if they are throwing around $2M plus.  gotta be better than mike out there for that money.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2011, 07:54:08 PM
Don't get why they would want Mike so bad, especially if they are throwing around $2M plus.  gotta be better than mike out there for that money.

To beat out MU money, I think Arky is going to have to hit about $2.5.

Isn't he making something like $2.35 right now?

Arkansas probably realizes paying a coach that's never been to the Final Four that kind of money is probably not a good idea.  They can probably get the same amount of success for a lot less (tipping hat to sys).
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 20, 2011, 07:56:18 PM
The more I dig into it, the more I don't know.  How would you feel as a coach if you're walking into a job where the last coach got fired after bringing in a Top 10 class?

the top 10 class is a little bit miragey.  at least one is a big qualification risk, i think one other is too, but don't recall for sure.

couple of the others are lifelong arkansas fans.  it's not like he was bringing a beasley to kstate, or a miller to baylor.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 20, 2011, 10:00:53 PM
two million, and not a penny more.  apparently anderson makes like 1.5 or so @ missouri, but mu can fire him for just 500k.

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The sources said Long had offered Anderson a five year deal at two million dollars annually and is holding firm to that offer even though the agent, Jimmy Sexton, is asking for a longer contract and a higher amount of annual compensation.

http://www.5newstogo.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=138&nid=42583756&cid=210&scid=-1&ith=0&title=Local+News
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2011, 10:12:51 PM
two million, and not a penny more.  apparently anderson makes like 1.5 or so @ missouri, but mu can fire him for just 500k.

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The sources said Long had offered Anderson a five year deal at two million dollars annually and is holding firm to that offer even though the agent, Jimmy Sexton, is asking for a longer contract and a higher amount of annual compensation.

http://www.5newstogo.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=138&nid=42583756&cid=210&scid=-1&ith=0&title=Local+News

jfc.  mike anderson is making ike turner look like a fantastic, caring husband.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 21, 2011, 06:00:23 AM
the site is a joke to read.  clicking on each post

oldtigerboard.com.  thread view.
Where is this "thread view" that you speak of?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 21, 2011, 06:16:26 AM
Where is this "thread view" that you speak of?

i guess it's actually called "listed".  either by time or activity.  it's under settings, then message listing method.  you have to be signed in.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 21, 2011, 03:17:14 PM
Quote
GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
More and more convinced that Anderson will stay put. Contract extension could be agreed to in coming hours/days. #Mizzou.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Winters on March 21, 2011, 03:18:13 PM
 :jerk:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 03:27:03 PM
fwiw, I hope mike does stay.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
I don't know if I could still love Frank if he held the program hostage three consecutive years with this kind of garbage.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EllToPay on March 21, 2011, 03:31:01 PM
Quote
GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
More and more convinced that Anderson will stay put. Contract extension could be agreed to in coming hours/days. #Mizzou.

LOL. So MU would be giving a contract extension and raise to a guy who finished 6th and barely made .500 in conference?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 21, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
his agent is quite the stud.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2011, 03:33:55 PM
The title of this thread is comically ironic now.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cire on March 21, 2011, 03:35:34 PM
Quote
GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
More and more convinced that Anderson will stay put. Contract extension could be agreed to in coming hours/days. #Mizzou.

LOL. So MU would be giving a contract extension and raise to a guy who finished 6th and barely made .500 in conference?


He deserves it.  BITB
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 03:36:11 PM
Surely extension doesn't mean raise?  If so, MU is really playing the battered GF well in this scenario. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 21, 2011, 03:42:49 PM
I don't think money is really an issue at mizzou.  I mean, christ.  Have you seen their campus???  :love:


That said, in no way does Anderson deserve that money.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: kougar24 on March 21, 2011, 03:45:21 PM
would be freaking hilarious if Anderson got an extension after just stumbling away from the train he just wrecked.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EllToPay on March 21, 2011, 03:46:01 PM
Surely extension doesn't mean raise?  If so, MU is really playing the battered GF well in this scenario. 

Well, if years to the contract are being added, then indirectly yes.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 21, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
is Anderson at Arkansas the same high class recruit thief he has been over the years.  or does KSU's recruiting suddenly become elite.   :woot:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 03:55:37 PM
is Anderson at Arkansas the same high class recruit thief he has been over the years.  or does KSU's recruiting suddenly become elite.   :woot:

Prob just becomes a better funded thief. 

Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 05:36:06 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Missouri took the bait, SLPD reporting extension for Anderson. Really weak finish to year, but Ark was not going to hire him due to Nolan

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Pearl will return, BCG has 3 DUIs, just got paid$$$, all Pearl did was cover for his AHC, stupid, but he will return
13 minutes ago

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Arkansas does not want Nolan hanging around, like Mia Farrow hanging out with Woody now, just weird

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GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
If I am Ark, my candidates are obvious, Buzz, Turgeon, heck I'd hire Pearl..Y not?


Sounds like Mike either missed his window or played MU.

MU has got to be absolutely sick of this.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 21, 2011, 05:40:21 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Missouri took the bait, SLPD reporting extension for Anderson. Really weak finish to year, but Ark was not going to hire him due to Nolan

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Pearl will return, BCG has 3 DUIs, just got paid$$$, all Pearl did was cover for his AHC, stupid, but he will return
13 minutes ago

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Arkansas does not want Nolan hanging around, like Mia Farrow hanging out with Woody now, just weird

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
If I am Ark, my candidates are obvious, Buzz, Turgeon, heck I'd hire Pearl..Y not?


Sounds like Mike either missed his window or played MU.

MU has got to be absolutely sick of this.

I wouldn't give him an extension until he actually wins a Big 12 Title.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: ednksu on March 21, 2011, 05:41:30 PM
MU sounds like it was played for the third year in a row.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 21, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Missouri took the bait, SLPD reporting extension for Anderson. Really weak finish to year, but Ark was not going to hire him due to Nolan

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Pearl will return, BCG has 3 DUIs, just got paid$$$, all Pearl did was cover for his AHC, stupid, but he will return
13 minutes ago

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Arkansas does not want Nolan hanging around, like Mia Farrow hanging out with Woody now, just weird

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
If I am Ark, my candidates are obvious, Buzz, Turgeon, heck I'd hire Pearl..Y not?


Sounds like Mike either missed his window or played MU.

MU has got to be absolutely sick of this.

I wouldn't give him an extension until he actually wins a Big 12 Title.

I thought he has  :ck: :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 21, 2011, 05:46:32 PM
Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Missouri took the bait, SLPD reporting extension for Anderson. Really weak finish to year, but Ark was not going to hire him due to Nolan

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Pearl will return, BCG has 3 DUIs, just got paid$$$, all Pearl did was cover for his AHC, stupid, but he will return
13 minutes ago

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
Arkansas does not want Nolan hanging around, like Mia Farrow hanging out with Woody now, just weird

Quote
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
If I am Ark, my candidates are obvious, Buzz, Turgeon, heck I'd hire Pearl..Y not?


Sounds like Mike either missed his window or played MU.

MU has got to be absolutely sick of this.

I wouldn't give him an extension until he actually wins a Big 12 Title.

I thought he has  :ck: :horrorsurprise:

The real thing... not tourny.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: kstater on March 21, 2011, 05:51:17 PM
Quote
GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
More and more convinced that Anderson will stay put. Contract extension could be agreed to in coming hours/days. #Mizzou.

LOL. So MU would be giving a contract extension and raise to a guy who finished 6th and barely made .500 in conference?

Making him a top 10 in salary as well.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
Strong rumors now that Mike is staying and he is now a $2m/yr guy.

Not worth it.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 09:37:46 PM
Quote
NJSloan212 Nick Sloan
Fun fact: Mike Anderson would have the highest salary of any coach who hasn't made the Final Four if these contract rumors are accurate.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Gooch on March 21, 2011, 09:40:12 PM
MA is truely amazing.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 09:42:08 PM
MA is truely amazing.

How long will MU let him live the Final 4 life without taking them to one?

good biz idea:  Pitchfork and Torch shop in Columbia.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 21, 2011, 09:44:20 PM
MA is truely amazing.

How long will MU let him live the Final 4 life without taking them to one?

good biz idea:  Pitchfork and Torch shop in Columbia.

 :opcat:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2011, 10:01:53 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 21, 2011, 10:02:17 PM
still up in the air according to Goodman.

Apparently MA wants a cherry on top.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2011, 10:02:44 PM
still up in the air according to Goodman.

Apparently MA wants a cherry on top.

Yeah, prob just haggling over a very low buyout.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 21, 2011, 10:05:12 PM
I hope Mike Alden isn't too lazy to sign the contract... He's been known for his lackluster work performance in the past.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2011, 05:59:14 AM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 22, 2011, 07:23:51 AM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

luckily for you, katz is better at his job than sexton is at his.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2011, 10:02:09 AM
B
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

luckily for you, katz is better at his job than sexton is at his.
I like to let myself believe that Frank tells his agent that coaching at such a tits school and living in such a jazzy town is payment enough, let alone his current salary.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2011, 12:10:48 PM
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MarkLericos Mark Lericos
by SSJ_WHB
Wow, 2 camps of reliable sources w/ completely opposite things about Mike Anderson. Simply incredible. Believe nothing right now.
12 minutes ago
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2011, 12:21:05 PM
Quote
MarkLericos Mark Lericos
by SSJ_WHB
Wow, 2 camps of reliable sources w/ completely opposite things about Mike Anderson. Simply incredible. Believe nothing right now.
12 minutes ago
Sounds like mike is telling both the wife and the mistress that he loves them and wants to be with them.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 22, 2011, 12:22:56 PM
Quote
MarkLericos Mark Lericos
by SSJ_WHB
Wow, 2 camps of reliable sources w/ completely opposite things about Mike Anderson. Simply incredible. Believe nothing right now.
12 minutes ago
Sounds like mike is telling both the wife and the mistress that he loves them and wants to be with them.

Next step:  deny everything.  Deny in the face of facts and proof.  Deny deny deny.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2011, 12:25:36 PM
Quote
MarkLericos Mark Lericos
by SSJ_WHB
Wow, 2 camps of reliable sources w/ completely opposite things about Mike Anderson. Simply incredible. Believe nothing right now.
12 minutes ago
Sounds like mike is telling both the wife and the mistress that he loves them and wants to be with them.

Next step:  deny everything.  Deny in the face of facts and proof.  Deny deny deny.

Next step is to get paid.  Then deny
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: OregonSmock on March 22, 2011, 12:35:55 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.




You were oh so close to going an entire thread without bringing up your KU inferiority complex.  Like they say, though, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 22, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.




You were oh so close to going an entire thread without bringing up your KU inferiority complex.  Like they say, though, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! 

Beems I think you misunderstand the usage.  It really has nothing to do with ku anymore.

Lew:
–verb (used with object)
1. to defraud; swindle: He Lewed her out of her inheritance.
2. to deceive; influence by fraud: He Lewed us into believing him a hero.
3. to elude; deprive of something expected: He Lewed the law by suicide.
–verb (used without object)
4. to practice fraud or deceit: She Lews without regrets.
5. to violate rules or regulations: He Lews at cards.
6. to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.
7. Informal . to be sexually unfaithful (often followed by on ): Her husband knew she had been Lewing all along. He Lewed on his wife.
 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: OregonSmock on March 22, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
The only person that Lew "Lew'd" was the FBI.  KU has a bunch of shiny new facilities, a national championship, and a BCS Bowl thanks to Lew.  K-State would name the junior college after him if he did those things in Mantucky.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2011, 12:42:53 PM
The only person that Lew "Lew'd" was the FBI.  KU has a bunch of shiny new facilities, a national championship, and a BCS Bowl thanks to Lew.  K-State would name the junior college after him if he did those things in Mantucky.

Lew'ed. 

Hard.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 22, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
The only person that Lew "Lew'd" was the FBI.  KU has a bunch of shiny new facilities, a national championship, and a BCS Bowl thanks to Lew.  K-State would name the junior college after him if he did those things in Mantucky.

Absolutely.  Now you are getting it.  We would kill for a Lew of our own.  The point is though to understand the usage. You seem to be getting it so I'll let you get back to your validation work.  Have a great day 'Beems.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
I wonder if ku paid those facilities workers overtime to slink over into Memorial Track and Field and Football complex to quietly take down that "Gridiron Club:  Coming Fall 2010" Banner in the middle of the night.    Meanwhile that "olympic sports complex" sits on the drawing board in Year 6 of its holding pattern.   



Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2011, 01:02:34 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wabash909 on March 22, 2011, 01:28:20 PM
MA is truely amazing.

Indeed.  Just think of this deviant on the recruiting trail.  I can only imagine.  I can only imagine...






Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 22, 2011, 02:08:59 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.




You were oh so close to going an entire thread without bringing up your KU inferiority complex.  Like they say, though, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! 

Yikes.  Me destroying you on the made up trust fund got you extremely upset and now you are stalking. 

I am sorry, but you bring it on yourself.  Like lying about playing AAU ball...blatant lies gotta be called out.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2011, 02:39:04 PM
Quote
NJSloan212 Nick Sloan
FYI, prominent Arkansas booster says Mike Anderson deal is done at Arkansas. http://tinyurl.com/4kjse4j
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 22, 2011, 02:40:11 PM
At this point people are only saying what they think will further their cause.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2011, 02:44:07 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2011, 03:08:11 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2011, 03:34:20 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: SuperG on March 22, 2011, 04:32:50 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 22, 2011, 04:45:43 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 22, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
Mods?!
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: OregonSmock on March 22, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.




You were oh so close to going an entire thread without bringing up your KU inferiority complex.  Like they say, though, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! 

Yikes.  Me destroying you on the made up trust fund got you extremely upset and now you are stalking. 

I am sorry, but you bring it on yourself.  Like lying about playing AAU ball...blatant lies gotta be called out.



I have no reason to prove to some no name butt hurt loser that I have a trust fund, nor do I have any desire to prove that I played AAU ball.  I haven't lied about either one, but please continue to one up yourself as the biggest butt hurt loser on goEMAW.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wes mantooth on March 22, 2011, 07:29:32 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.




You were oh so close to going an entire thread without bringing up your KU inferiority complex.  Like they say, though, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! 

Yikes.  Me destroying you on the made up trust fund got you extremely upset and now you are stalking. 

I am sorry, but you bring it on yourself.  Like lying about playing AAU ball...blatant lies gotta be called out.



I have no reason to prove to some no name butt hurt loser that I have a trust fund, nor do I have any desire to prove that I played AAU ball.  I haven't lied about either one, but please continue to one up yourself as the biggest butt hurt loser on goEMAW.

"look at me i have a $2 million trust fund and i played aau ball" 

Really makes you sound like a douche.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wabash909 on March 22, 2011, 07:39:37 PM

I have no reason to prove to some no name butt hurt loser that I have a trust fund, nor do I have any desire to prove that I played AAU ball.  I haven't lied about either one, but please continue to one up yourself as the biggest butt hurt loser on goEMAW.


"I have a trust fund".


 :lol:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 22, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Anderson just Lew'd Missouri.




You were oh so close to going an entire thread without bringing up your KU inferiority complex.  Like they say, though, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! 

Yikes.  Me destroying you on the made up trust fund got you extremely upset and now you are stalking. 

I am sorry, but you bring it on yourself.  Like lying about playing AAU ball...blatant lies gotta be called out.



I have no reason to prove to some no name butt hurt loser that I have a trust fund, nor do I have any desire to prove that I played AAU ball.  I haven't lied about either one, but please continue to one up yourself as the biggest butt hurt loser on goEMAW.

"look at me i have a $2 million trust fund and i played aau ball" 

Really makes you sound like a douche.

He is a KU fan that spends hours on a KSU board, of course he is a douche.
 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 22, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
IIRC, Beems offered to prove that he had the trust fund.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: OregonSmock on March 22, 2011, 08:11:51 PM
Limestone's the one accusing me of being "poor" and "lying about everything."  Don't blame me for defending myself. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 22, 2011, 08:14:02 PM
Limestone's the one accusing me of being "poor" and "lying about everything."  Don't blame me for defending myself. 

Well KU fans are inherently poorer than Cats fans.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wes mantooth on March 22, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
Limestone's the one accusing me of being "poor" and "lying about everything."  Don't blame me for defending myself. 

Well all KU fans are "poor" compared to younger, richer, more fanatical q@ fans.  Probably all he meant, nothing to get worked up over.  
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 22, 2011, 08:15:58 PM
But you aren't actually defending yourself... You really haven't proved crap.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 22, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Limestone's the one accusing me of being "poor" and "lying about everything."  Don't blame me for defending myself. 

Well KU fans are inherently poorer than Cats fans.

Science proves it. I guess Beems doesn't believe in science. What a weirdo.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 22, 2011, 08:18:52 PM
Limestone's the one accusing me of being "poor" and "lying about everything."  Don't blame me for defending myself. 

Well KU fans are inherently poorer than Cats fans.

Science proves it. I guess Beems doesn't believe in science. What a weirdo.

Clearly a flat earther
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: jtksu on March 22, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
Any chances we can get a pic of ben playing aau ball!?  I assume he has cankles.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2011, 09:35:04 PM
this thread just got good!
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 22, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
Any chances we can get a pic of ben playing aau ball!?  I assume he has cankles.

Hed did not.  He lied.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 22, 2011, 09:42:28 PM
Almost all good ballers played aau bball. Not all aau players are good ballers. Id be embarrassed to admit that I have a trust fund.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: bradleigh on March 22, 2011, 10:33:06 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

I'm not sure one can make the case that a proven winner isn't worth $2mil and more.  Our record Ahearn fund drives simply don't happen on the back of Woollly, Tom, etc.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2011, 11:54:30 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 23, 2011, 12:05:46 AM
there is the potential for high replacement cost to changing coaches.  such that you could replace a coach with a coach of exactly equal capabilities, but damage your competitive position through foregone recruiting opportunities, lost recruits & transfers.  since there is no shortage of qualified coaches, that's one big driver of coaching salary increases.  the other being the substantial risk, and very high cost, of making an unsuccessful hire.

the other side of the coin is that there is some tradeoff between annual salary/perceived loyalty and job security for a coach.  as long as a program is successful, the tradeoff can be masked.  however, a couple of down years bring it to the forefront.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 23, 2011, 07:23:16 AM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
you're crazy.  iPhones are def worth $50.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 08:51:10 AM
SBNation:

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Another Day, Another Mike Anderson To Arkansas Report
Mar
23
7:25a
by Joel Thorman

If Mike Anderson doesn't go to the Arkansas Razorbacks to become head coach -- and he said as recently as last Thursday that he won't -- then there are going to be some disappointed and pissed off Arkansas fans. That's because Arkansas news outlets continue to report that Anderson will be the next Razorbacks head coach.

Nate Allen of the Baxter Bulletin is the latest from Arkansas to report this:

Sources close to college basketball, and sources close to Arkansas said Tuesday night they anticipate Missouri coach Mike Anderson becoming the Arkansas Razorbacks' next head coach.

So sources tell him Anderson is going to Arkansas but three paragraphs down he writes "etch nothing in stone" so I'm not sure if we should believe his report if he's clearly not confident in it by throwing in a disclaimer within the first 100 words of the story.

The Anderson to Arkansas story is one of the craziest stories I remember. Arkansas reporters clearly have someone (ahem, Mr. Jimmy Sexton) feeding them information that's putting the pressure on Mizzou fans to encourage AD Mike Alden to do what it takes to keep Anderson.

Another day, another report....
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Winters on March 23, 2011, 09:36:02 AM
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GottliebShow    Andy Katz says Anderson will take Arkansas.

 :fistpump:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 23, 2011, 09:45:07 AM
I weep for the country's (mis)understanding of basic economic principles.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 23, 2011, 09:50:39 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6249515&campaign=rss&source=ESPNUHeadlines
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2011, 09:52:09 AM
I weep for the country's (mis)understanding of basic economic principles.

No one cares, Dr. Laffer.  Relax
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 23, 2011, 09:58:15 AM
I weep for the country's (mis)understanding of basic economic principles.

No one cares, Dr. Laffer.  Relax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPVyieptwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPVyieptwA)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
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GottliebShow    Andy Katz says Anderson will take Arkansas.

 :fistpump:

Gotlieb has been doing his "I told you so" dance on twitter the last few days when the rumor surge was that Mike was staying at MU. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: puniraptor on March 23, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
Any chance these ARK people are taking a Fitz on this one?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cire on March 23, 2011, 10:39:44 AM
LOL at mizzou, that sucks.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
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MarkLericos Mark Lericos
Anderson to Arkansas. UA Source: http://www.4029tv.com/sports/27293879/detail.html (http://www.4029tv.com/sports/27293879/detail.html)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 23, 2011, 12:12:42 PM
This is turning into the LaBron to Miami deal.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
This is turning into the LaBron to Miami deal.

Gonna be similar hate on the MU end if he goes.  Will be Roy'ish.  MU'ers will hate AK like KU'ers hate UNC.

Will suck if MU gets Pearl out of the deal.

Would rather if Mike just stayed and got paid.  We could continue to at least split with them and then also make fun of them for paying so much for a less-than elite coach.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EllToPay on March 23, 2011, 12:17:22 PM
This is turning into the LaBron to Miami deal.

Gonna be similar hate on the MU end if he goes.  Will be Roy'ish.  MU'ers will hate AK like KU'ers hate UNC.

Will suck if MU gets Pearl out of the deal.

Would rather if Mike just stayed and got paid.  We could continue to at least split with them and then also make fun of them for paying so much for a less-than elite coach.

yeah, really don't want them getting someone like pearl. we now have to face bcg and self twice a year. don't want to add oscar and buzz to that list either.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: jtksu on March 23, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
Weren't we already facing Self twice a year?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 12:24:01 PM
This is turning into the LaBron to Miami deal.

Gonna be similar hate on the MU end if he goes.  Will be Roy'ish.  MU'ers will hate AK like KU'ers hate UNC.

Will suck if MU gets Pearl out of the deal.

Would rather if Mike just stayed and got paid.  We could continue to at least split with them and then also make fun of them for paying so much for a less-than elite coach.

yeah, really don't want them getting someone like pearl. we now have to face bcg and self twice a year. don't want to add oscar and buzz to that list either.

Jesus, that would be awful.  Prob will happen.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 23, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
all the tweeting heads are saying pearl is going to get a show cause, which if true, means no one will hire him.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 12:59:52 PM
'Grats SD:

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JakeGuti Jake Gutierrez
If Mike Anderson is really gone and I was a Mizzou fan I would want MU to go after Jay Wright with that 2 million they were ready 2 give MA.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CHONGS on March 23, 2011, 01:02:15 PM
the question is will mizzou go slth (i think we can agree that MA was slth right?) again?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
the question is will mizzou go slth (i think we can agree that MA was slth right?) again?


I don't think he was a full on SLTH.  Too dirty in recruiting(allegedly).

Game was very SLTHy though.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 01:05:55 PM
all the tweeting heads are saying pearl is going to get a show cause, which if true, means no one will hire him.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 01:06:28 PM
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cbahn Chris Bahn
 by RazorBloggers
Mike Anderson officially has a decision to make. Arkansas offer approved for $2.2 million and seven years.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CHONGS on March 23, 2011, 01:08:33 PM
The "Show Cause" penalty is perhaps the harshest in the NCAA's arsenal, as it essentially prevents a person from working in college basketball.
A show cause penalty -- usually with set duration -- may be handed down for a variety of reasons, but is most often used for coaches who commit NCAA violations relating to recruiting. For example, ex-Indiana coach was hit with a five-year show cause penalty stemming from improper phone calls made to recruits, and Ohio State coach Jim O'Brien faced the same penalty after making an under-the-table payment to a recruit.

Any school wishing to hire a coach under a "show cause" designation must appear before the NCAA infractions committee and potentially face new sanctions. No Division I athletic director has ever taken that step. As such, "show cause" usually amounts to a total ban from working at the college level for the duration of the penalty.

For example, California coach Todd Bozeman was hit with an eight-year show cause penalty stemming from improper payments made to the family of one of his players. Ten years elapsed before Bozeman was able to find a job at the college level -- he's currently the head coach at Morgan State.

Examples:
The NCAA hit ex-Indiana coach Kelvin Sampson with a five-year show cause penalty, while Sampson assistant Rob Senderoff received a three-year penalty.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: goldenticket on March 23, 2011, 01:37:57 PM
yeah pat forde was on tony kornheisers radio show (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tony-kornheiser-show/id330870909) yesterday and they were talking about how its likely pearl will get hit with a show cause and wont be coaching for a few years. so i wouldnt worry about him anytime soon. he will most likely head to tv for a little while and rehab his image
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 01:39:27 PM
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benjaminhboyd Benjamin Boyd
 by greghall24
Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.

Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 23, 2011, 01:45:18 PM
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benjaminhboyd Benjamin Boyd
 by greghall24
Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.


That's a really good thing for Ark. Nobody is willing to pay Anderson more than $2.2M and if he sucks, they can dump his ass for a low amount.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 01:46:33 PM
Quote
benjaminhboyd Benjamin Boyd
 by greghall24
Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.


That's a really good thing for Ark. Nobody is willing to pay Anderson more than $2.2M and if he sucks, they can dump his ass for a low amount.

I get it.  Seems like a pretty bad deal for Mike, if you ask me.  No way he lives up to the expectations of SEC boosters paying $2.2M.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 23, 2011, 01:50:33 PM
It's the SEC dude.  He'll run away with it.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 23, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
Quote
benjaminhboyd Benjamin Boyd
 by greghall24
Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.


That's a really good thing for Ark. Nobody is willing to pay Anderson more than $2.2M and if he sucks, they can dump his ass for a low amount.

I get it.  Seems like a pretty bad deal for Mike, if you ask me.  No way he lives up to the expectations of SEC boosters paying $2.2M.
I agree. You must be a regular deep runner in the tourney for that kind of scratch. Something I doubt MA ever is. At least, for Ark, they can get rid of him on the cheap if he fails. If he doesn't, hey, you got a great coach.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 02:23:09 PM
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Dave_Matter Dave Matter
 by SSJ_WHB
RT @DeanBlevins: Just spoke with Nolan Richardson about Anderson. He said "something will happen today." He & Anderson r together n Tulsa.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 23, 2011, 02:24:31 PM
In typical dipshit fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: OK_Cat on March 23, 2011, 02:28:30 PM
In typical dipshit fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

MU is a much better job than you're giving it credit for.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2011, 02:31:23 PM
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 02:34:29 PM
Jamie Dixon is national COY and currently coaches in the Big East.

Pfft.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: 0.42 on March 23, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Ben Howland

I'm 12 and what the eff is this
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2011, 02:44:40 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2011, 02:50:00 PM
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 23, 2011, 02:56:25 PM
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

Stevens' stock will never be hotter.  With that said, I think he really enjoys his job at Butler.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 03:01:06 PM
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

Stevens' stock will never be hotter.  With that said, I think he really enjoys his job at Butler.

He played and Asst'ed there, didn't he?

That said, if a high stage job opened this week, he would have to be on the short list.  By high stage, I mean better than MU.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 03:07:13 PM
On with BITB:

Jack Harry:

"Mike Anderson runs a clean program."
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 23, 2011, 03:10:47 PM
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

Stevens' stock will never be hotter.  With that said, I think he really enjoys his job at Butler.

He played and Asst'ed there, didn't he?

That said, if a high stage job opened this week, he would have to be on the short list.  By high stage, I mean better than MU.

Played at Depauw and went through the ranks of asst under Thad Matta at Butler until 2007 when he took over.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 23, 2011, 03:10:48 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 23, 2011, 03:15:04 PM
Early name I've heard is Mo St's coach Cuonzo Martin.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 23, 2011, 03:16:18 PM
VCU's coach.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 03:19:53 PM
VCU's coach.

Would be great for them
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: fr@ck me on March 23, 2011, 03:22:03 PM
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 23, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.

MA will be making $2.2M next year.  and his income tax return will say that he is worth that much.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2011, 03:35:34 PM
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 03:36:32 PM
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

I wouldn't call Indiana a good job.  They have been crap for quite a while. 

Indiana may kill a career.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 23, 2011, 03:42:05 PM
I love coaching searches. My favorite part of them is hearing who KU fans think would be a good coach. Their short list always includes:

1. Any coach who has played them close, but not beaten them.
2. Current KU assistants
3. Former KU assistants
4. Former KU players
5. Mark Fox
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 03:44:23 PM
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 23, 2011, 03:46:27 PM
I love coaching searches. My favorite part of them is hearing who KU fans think would be a good coach. Their short list always includes:

1. Any coach who has played them close, but not beaten them.
2. Current KU assistants
3. Former KU assistants
4. Former KU players
5. Mark Fox

lol
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 03:50:01 PM
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

Jack said that Frank was offered the Oregon job last year

Was not aware of this  :dunno:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 03:51:18 PM
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

Jack said that Frank was offered the Oregon job last year

Was not aware of this  :dunno:

Was discussed here last year.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

Jack said that Frank was offered the Oregon job last year

Was not aware of this  :dunno:

Was discussed here last year.

Oh. I know Oregon was going ape sh*t but I didn't know Frank's name came up
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 04:07:05 PM
Quote
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
 by Haverhill40
It's over. Anderson has informed Missouri he's going to Arkansas.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 23, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.

Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
official.  parking lot sign is down.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/official-anderson-departs-missouri-for-arkansas-29582 (http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/official-anderson-departs-missouri-for-arkansas-29582)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: fr@ck me on March 23, 2011, 04:32:00 PM
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

I wouldn't call Indiana a good job.  They have been cac for quite a while. 

Indiana may kill a career.

I bet they wish they never would have fired Knight.. at least their team would have proper footwork when shooting free throws...
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EllToPay on March 23, 2011, 04:34:50 PM
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.



You're a dumbass. Someone said Crean, Petro then laughed at him and said clearly someone's wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2011, 04:36:49 PM
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there. 

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

I wouldn't call Indiana a good job.  They have been cac for quite a while. 

Indiana may kill a career.

I bet they wish they never would have fired Knight.. at least their team would have proper footwork when shooting free throws...

and wouldn't have chicken crap defense  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVl2bQib1Mk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVl2bQib1Mk)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 05:05:32 PM
Quote
pfloyd96 Bobby G
 by SSJ_WHB@
@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 23, 2011, 05:08:31 PM
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.



You're a dumbass. Someone said Crean, Petro then laughed at him and said clearly someone's wishful thinking.

Well duh, of course I'm a dumbass, but I'm pretty sure I can hear.   You must have missed the part when they were talking about paying $2.3M per and going after every big name in the biz...right around 12:30. Mentioned Crean, Dixon, Stevens etc..  talked about where Dixon was from, pretty sure I heard them right.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: kitten_mittons on March 23, 2011, 05:11:32 PM
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.



You're a dumbass. Someone said Crean, Petro then laughed at him and said clearly someone's wishful thinking.

Well duh, of course I'm a dumbass, but I'm pretty sure I can hear.   You must have missed the part when they were talking about paying $2.3M per and going after every big name in the biz...right around 12:30. Mentioned Crean, Dixon, Stevens etc..  talked about where Dixon was from, pretty sure I heard them right.

He's not saying they will have a chance with any of them, he's just saying that they will probably try.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2011, 05:17:56 PM
Quote
pfloyd96 Bobby G
 by SSJ_WHB@
@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

Seems like anymore teams just grant releases to players eventually but Tennessee is refusing to release at least one player so we might see some resistance at MU.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2011, 05:35:41 PM
Quote
pfloyd96 Bobby G
 by SSJ_WHB@
@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

premature.  see who they hire before we dance on Mizzou's ashes
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 05:36:13 PM
Quote
Leabonics Todd Leabo
 by SSJ_WHB
Anderson Signs Arkansas Contract in Tulsa kfsm.com/news/kfsm-ande…
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 05:37:31 PM
Quote
Leabonics Todd Leabo
 by SSJ_WHB
Anderson Signs Arkansas Contract in Tulsa kfsm.com/news/kfsm-ande…

Tulsa huh
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 05:46:46 PM
BITB ripping MA for doing this in Tulsa after a funeral. Whew
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 23, 2011, 06:09:54 PM
One now has to ask.  Will MU finally get that guy that will take MU where they have the potential to go given their overall demographics.

I see no, but you never know.

Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: catzacker on March 23, 2011, 06:20:52 PM
One now has to ask.  Will MU finally get that guy that will take MU where they have the potential to go given their overall demographics.

I see no, but you never know.



i'm just curious if anyone in the mu/kc media will actually report Mike Anderson to Arkansas is, at a minimum, a possibility now that he's signed a contract with Arkansas.  I'll wait for the DeArmond clan to report it before I'll believe every other news outlet.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWgasm on March 23, 2011, 06:29:20 PM
Who gives a shat about MU's new coach.  I want to know what happens to Tony Mitchell now  :fatty:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 06:32:32 PM
Who gives a shat about MU's new coach.  I want to know what happens to Tony Mitchell now  :fatty:

Cause it's who we'll face at minimum twice a year for the foreseeable future  :ck:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 23, 2011, 07:33:04 PM
mitchell is at n texas
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 07:34:53 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
I've talked to a few AAU guys and the consensus is that they'd be ecstatic with Missouri hiring Missouri State's Cuonzo Martin.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 23, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
Quote
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
 by Haverhill40
It's over. Anderson has informed Missouri he's going to Arkansas.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply


 :cool:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2011, 08:28:58 PM
I love coaching searches. My favorite part of them is hearing who KU fans think would be a good coach. Their short list always includes:

1. Any coach who has played them close, but not beaten them.
2. Current KU assistants
3. Former KU assistants
4. Former KU players
5. Mark Fox

Poor people are funny.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
It's over.  Told yah.  goEMAW breaks another one.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
Quote
pfloyd96 Bobby G
 by SSJ_WHB@
@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

Seems like anymore teams just grant releases to players eventually but Tennessee is refusing to release at least one player so we might see some resistance at MU.

Tim Weiser and and Jon Wefald stated publicly that they would NOT release any player after Huggins left.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 23, 2011, 08:59:23 PM
One now has to ask.  Will MU finally get that guy that will take MU where they have the potential to go given their overall demographics.

I see no, but you never know.



The excuse I always get for crappy basketball attendance at Missouri is that Kansas City and St. Louis are "too far" for evening drives... even though in both cases I had driven from Iowa.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: doom on March 23, 2011, 09:16:55 PM
Quote
pfloyd96 Bobby G
 by SSJ_WHB@
@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

Seems like anymore teams just grant releases to players eventually but Tennessee is refusing to release at least one player so we might see some resistance at MU.

Tim Weiser and and Jon Wefald stated publicly that they would NOT release any player after Huggins left.

And we were mocked relentlessly for it. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
ISU bled players like dylan at the bottom of a cliff.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: ednksu on March 23, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
Quote
pfloyd96 Bobby G
 by SSJ_WHB@
@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

Seems like anymore teams just grant releases to players eventually but Tennessee is refusing to release at least one player so we might see some resistance at MU.

Tim Weiser and and Jon Wefald stated publicly that they would NOT release any player after Huggins left.

And we were mocked relentlessly for it. 
that was because people did not understand what they said.  They weren't going to release before there was  new coach.  If we didn't land Frank and te it would be a different story.  Keeping them under their LOI till we got our coach kept them from being recruited. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: D-FRED-BROWN on March 23, 2011, 09:23:48 PM
 :surprised:  :dubious:  :excited:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: pike on March 23, 2011, 09:48:42 PM
ISU bled players like dylan at the bottom of a cliff.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deviantart.com%2Fdownload%2F131328976%2FSurprised_Face_by_Krasus.jpg&hash=96778b310ee3dac3b6625053ba14a200fa401821)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2011, 09:51:40 PM
Any players we want to poach?  We owe them.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 23, 2011, 09:55:28 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
I've talked to a few AAU guys and the consensus is that they'd be ecstatic with Missouri hiring Missouri State's Cuonzo Martin.

 :horrorsurprise:

Someone tweeted Martin has street cred with players, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 10:05:27 PM
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
I've talked to a few AAU guys and the consensus is that they'd be ecstatic with Missouri hiring Missouri State's Cuonzo Martin.

 :horrorsurprise:

Someone tweeted Martin has street cred with players, for whatever reason.

 :opcat:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 23, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Any players we want to poach?  We owe them.

Hell, I'd take the presseys
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: nicname on March 23, 2011, 11:21:09 PM
Good for Mizzou IMO.  MA asking for a raise after this subpar season.  Dude is a snake, glad to have him out of the conference. 

Of course now there is a chance that MU hires an absolute dud.  I give it 50/50 dud vs. good hire (MA equivilant).  They won't hit a homerun though.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: SwiftCat on March 23, 2011, 11:25:06 PM
Of course now there is a chance that MU hires an absolute dud.They won't hit a homerun though.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: nicname on March 23, 2011, 11:26:43 PM
Of course now there is a chance that MU hires an absolute dud.They won't hit a homerun though.

 :confused:

Why confused, they will either get another decent coach ala MA or screw up royally.  50/50 on this.

Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: j-von on March 24, 2011, 01:05:19 AM
Why confused, they will either get another decent coach ala MA or screw up royally.  50/50 on this.

I'm kind of out of the loop on this one.  Is there anybody available or being talked about that would even be considered a home run hire if they got him?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: swish1 on March 24, 2011, 01:07:34 AM
Why confused, they will either get another decent coach ala MA or screw up royally.  50/50 on this.

I'm kind of out of the loop on this one.  Is there anybody available or being talked about that would even be considered a home run hire if they got him?

what people currently consider a home run hire doesnt matter.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2011, 01:26:26 AM
ISU bled players like dylan at the bottom of a cliff.

Loyal Sons Forever True!

:IStateo:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Cire on March 24, 2011, 07:26:36 AM
MA was kinda like Leach in fb.  glad to have him gone.  next to impossible to beat them at home.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 24, 2011, 07:59:51 AM
Don't expect MU to hire a big name coach.  A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.  I look for it to be Cuonzo Martin or similar.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2011, 08:26:32 AM
Don't expect MU to hire a big name coach.  A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.  I look for it to be Cuonzo Martin or similar.

he certainly seems to be the main name right now.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
Don't expect MU to hire a big name coach.  A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.  I look for it to be Cuonzo Martin or similar.

Shaka Smart
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: OK_Cat on March 24, 2011, 10:27:21 AM
Don't expect MU to hire a big name coach.  A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.  I look for it to be Cuonzo Martin or similar.

Shaka Smart

haverhill making up names again
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 24, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
Don't expect MU to hire a big name coach.  A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.  I look for it to be Cuonzo Martin or similar.

Shaka Smart

haverhill making up names again

I just want Mizzou to fail!!  :bawl:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 24, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.

wouldn't an mo be something you've done more than never (more than once, if you consider anderson young&cheap)?
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2011, 11:52:38 AM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.

Using every D1 AD as a barometer is stupid.  The AD at St. Peters is just as relevant as you in the conversation.  The measuring stick isn't every AD its every AD willing and able to pay a basketball coach $2 million.  That number is about 20 and of that 20 two of them are looking for a coach, both want Mike Anderson.  So 100% of the teams able to pay $2 mil to Anderson wanted to do so, how does that equal overvalued?  Your issue shouldn't be Anderson's value, it should be with other coaches being possibly undervalued.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 24, 2011, 12:24:05 PM
A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.

wouldn't an mo be something you've done more than never (more than once, if you consider anderson young&cheap)?

Anderson was young and relatively cheap. 

MU put together a search committee consisting of 3 well respected white basketball guys, Alden and a black assistant ad.  When the 3 white guys suggested Huggins (and wouldn't budge off their recommendation) Alden cut them loose and he and the assistant ad decided on Anderson. 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: The Whale on March 24, 2011, 12:24:54 PM
Confirmed garbage human being didn't even bother to tell his players before accepting the job.

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/03/23/missouri-mens-basketball-players-were-just-uninformed-fans-leading-announcement-mike-andersons-departure-arkansas/ (http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/03/23/missouri-mens-basketball-players-were-just-uninformed-fans-leading-announcement-mike-andersons-departure-arkansas/)
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: sys on March 24, 2011, 12:40:16 PM
Anderson was young and relatively cheap.

was 46 when hired and his first contract paid 850k plus performance bonuses.  huggins got 1 million the same year.  coaches made a lot less back then.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 24, 2011, 12:56:06 PM
Anderson was young and relatively cheap.



was 46 when hired and his first contract paid 850k plus performance bonuses.  huggins got 1 million the same year.  coaches made a lot less back then.

dammit....you got me
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 24, 2011, 01:45:37 PM
A young black coach that they can hire cheap is Alden's m.o.

wouldn't an mo be something you've done more than never (more than once, if you consider anderson young&cheap)?

heh
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2011, 02:42:13 PM
Quote
ArkRazorbacks ArkRazorbacks
by RazorBloggers
Special event introducing Razorback men's basketball coach Mike Anderson set for Saturday morning at 1030a at Walton Arena, open to public

Heads up vid guys.

I would like a vid with sound of Mike doing that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) pig call. 

Bet he doesn't do it.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 24, 2011, 03:04:23 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.

Using every D1 AD as a barometer is stupid.  The AD at St. Peters is just as relevant as you in the conversation.  The measuring stick isn't every AD its every AD willing and able to pay a basketball coach $2 million.  That number is about 20 and of that 20 two of them are looking for a coach, both want Mike Anderson.  So 100% of the teams able to pay $2 mil to Anderson wanted to do so, how does that equal overvalued?  Your issue shouldn't be Anderson's value, it should be with other coaches being possibly undervalued.
Only 20 schools, that if they really thought they were getting real deal, could pony up $2M/year? Really? Gimme a break. There are 10 in our conference alone. If you want to use 2 schools as the barometer instead of the majority, go ahead and knock yourself out. If you're too dense to understand that, then there's nothing left for me to say.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: mcmwcat on March 24, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
i guess we'll see which one of you is right when they release the details of the contract.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.

Using every D1 AD as a barometer is stupid.  The AD at St. Peters is just as relevant as you in the conversation.  The measuring stick isn't every AD its every AD willing and able to pay a basketball coach $2 million.  That number is about 20 and of that 20 two of them are looking for a coach, both want Mike Anderson.  So 100% of the teams able to pay $2 mil to Anderson wanted to do so, how does that equal overvalued?  Your issue shouldn't be Anderson's value, it should be with other coaches being possibly undervalued.
Only 20 schools, that if they really thought they were getting real deal, could pony up $2M/year? Really? Gimme a break. There are 10 in our conference alone. If you want to use 2 schools as the barometer instead of the majority, go ahead and knock yourself out. If you're too dense to understand that, then there's nothing left for me to say.

I said could and would, there's no where close to 10 schools in this conference that have demonstrated that they'd pay that much for a basketball coach.  Texas, Kansas, and Mizzou, thats it.  OU isn't paying that much for a coach, A&M, or KSU haven't either.  Frank was reportedly offered $2 mil from DePaul, KSU didn't try to match that.

The past 4 years Mike Anderson's program made more money for his school than Frank did for KSU.

You can keep saying that I'm a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and I don't understand, yet I keep presenting facts and you keep stating your opinion coupled with a sig pic of a football player.  Present a fact of any relevance that supports your strong & simple opinions or just, let me have the last word to save you from further embarrassment.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: KITNfury on March 24, 2011, 04:18:58 PM
I said could and would, there's no where close to 10 schools in this conference that have demonstrated that they'd pay that much for a basketball coach.  Texas, Kansas, and Mizzou, thats it.  OU isn't paying that much for a coach, A&M, or KSU haven't either.  Frank was reportedly offered $2 mil from DePaul, KSU didn't try to match that.

The past 4 years Mike Anderson's program made more money for his school than Frank did for KSU.

You can keep saying that I'm a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and I don't understand, yet I keep presenting facts and you keep stating your opinion coupled with a sig pic of a football player.  Present a fact of any relevance that supports your strong & simple opinions or just, let me have the last word to save you from further embarrassment.
You really shouldn't call me out for stating opinions when you're doing the same. As far as I can tell, the only relevant fact you've thrown out is that there are people willing to pay Anderson $2M. That doesn't mean he's being paid well above market value for an above average coach. You assume that because schools in this conference have not spent $2M for a coach, that means they wouldn't. That's opinion. You know what I think (there you go buddy)? I think there would be ten schools in this conference that would pay $2M to get Coach K, Bill Self, etc to come to their school. You and I both know that almost every BCS school would. Of course, nobody will pay that much because those guys aren't walking through the door.

Fact: there are 6 coaches paid more than Mike Anderson. Fact: There are well over 20 schools that have the budget to pay $2M year. Fact: Nobody pays that unless they are getting an elite level coach because it's a waste of money. Fact: Mike Anderson has not shown himself to be an elite level coach.

Like I said earlier in this thread, if he becomes an elite level coach, then fine, it's worth it. At this moment in time, it is not.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
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Don’t bank on that up-and-coming coach (duh)

Mike Miller

Mar 25, 2011, 12:20 PM EDT
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That mid-major coach everyone’s eager to hire? He may not be a sure thing.

Richmond’s Chris Mooney just got added to Tennessee’s coaching search. Shaka Smart’s trying to get VCU ready for Florida State, but has to deal with non-stop questions about coaching other teams.

Yet if they do end up at a bigger school, you can see courtesy of Luke Winn’s power rankings that of the 11 coaches hired immediately after a Sweet 16 run, only five did it with their new school.



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No one say anything to MU about this...
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 25, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
I heard Sunvold was on 810 discussing his being fired from the last search committee....hmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2011, 12:18:05 PM
St. John claimed this morning on the BP that current Atlanta Hawks coach Larry Drew was interested in the Missouri job when MA got it and is currently interested in the opening.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2011, 01:09:01 PM
I heard Sunvold was on 810 discussing his being fired from the last search committee....hmmmmmmmm

I missed this, did it sound like he was still upset they did not go after Huggs like he suggested? 
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 25, 2011, 02:11:55 PM
I heard Sunvold was on 810 discussing his being fired from the last search committee....hmmmmmmmm

I missed this, did it sound like he was still upset they did not go after Huggs like he suggested? 

I don't think he was upset, it seemed it was over it.  But his biggest point was that he was staunchly against hiring Quin.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Fuktard on March 25, 2011, 02:21:24 PM
I didn't hear the interview but I know there were some very hard feelings when he and the other 2 guys were told to take a walk.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2011, 07:29:50 PM
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goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
I just hope you aren't using your Mike Anderson source on this one! LOL. RT @GottliebShow: @goodmanonfox call me, will give u what I got.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: catzacker on March 26, 2011, 01:56:57 PM
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WOO PIG SOOIE!!! GO MIKE!!
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Havs on March 26, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Hearing that Ben Jacobson's "people" have been in contact with Mizzou's "people." Doubt this happens though, his system would struggle in the Big 12, and the current athletes would too.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: EllToPay on March 26, 2011, 05:40:42 PM
Hearing that Ben Jacobson's "people" have been in contact with Mizzou's "people." Doubt this happens though, his system would struggle in the Big 12, and the current athletes would too.

You're not 'hearing' anything you rough ridin' hick.
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 26, 2011, 07:23:12 PM
Hearing that Ben Jacobson's "people" have been in contact with Mizzou's "people." Doubt this happens though, his system would struggle in the Big 12, and the current athletes would too.

Begging for a job is pathetic
Title: Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
Post by: jtksu on March 26, 2011, 07:34:31 PM
Poor bastard wants to get out of Iowa so bad he's willing to move to Methourri.