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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on March 15, 2011, 01:11:06 PM
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with Arkansas, OU and Texas Tech.
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still not worried.
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:runaway:
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still not worried.
Not really sweating NC State.
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I think Georgia Tech might have an opening
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I think Georgia Tech might have an opening
yep
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Providence. LOL.
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I think Georgia Tech might have an opening
yep
would be a good fit for capel
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Yep:
NC State, Georgia Tech, Arkansas, OU, Texas Tech and Providence are major conference jobs open I know about.
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From what I can tell from the 8 U fans out there who care about basketball, Haith is good for at least another year.
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From what I can tell from the 8 U fans out there who care about basketball, Haith is good for at least another year.
They aren't going to fire him with the flux that their department is currently in. New AD, new football coach, and new basketball coach in the same year is kind of a bad idea for the most part.
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I think Georgia Tech might have an opening
yep
This one is worth :ohno: about.
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Gottlieb was on with Petro and they talked about Frank and other jobs. Gottlieb's opinion is that the biggest threat for Frank would be going home to the U.
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I think Georgia Tech might have an opening
yep
This one is worth :ohno: about.
Yeah. Close proximity to Florida. Much easier to recruit to Atlanta. Fair amount of success in recent years. :ohno:
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I think Georgia Tech might have an opening
yep
This one is worth :ohno: about.
Yeah. Close proximity to Florida. Much easier to recruit to Atlanta. Fair amount of success in recent years. :ohno:
Still not worried. IMO Frank won't leave to get "close" to Florida. He'll leave to go to Florida when the right job opens there. Of course I am rarely right about anything FWIW.
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lots of openings among similar schools/areas. will be interesting, competitionwise.
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I may be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but I worry more about a Big East job than a Fl job. Isn't his wife from Boston?
Would get him in THE bb league and near home for his wife.
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i'd just worry about really good jobs, and not pay a whole lot of attention to where they are.
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I can't wait for Frank to be on TV and say "I'm stayin" :gocho:
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I can't wait for Frank to be on TV and say "I'm stayin" :gocho:
You can bet he's going to be a real dick to the poor media schmuck that tentatively asks him about it
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i'd just worry about really good jobs, and not pay a whole lot of attention to where they are.
Do you consider of the openings "really good"? I don't think I do. GT is probably the closest.
Jumping from a BCS to a non-blue-blood BCS is just super rare these days. Purnell was really weird. Bennett to UVA was kind of weird too.
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i'd just worry about really good jobs, and not pay a whole lot of attention to where they are.
Do you consider of the openings "really good"? I don't think I do. GT is probably the closest.
Jumping from a BCS to a non-blue-blood BCS is just super rare these days. Purnell was really weird. Bennett to UVA was kind of weird too.
I think UVA just got a brand new arena, they're in a mostly down ACC, and it's really a decent area to recruit to. Charlottesville is a great town, and the university is about as good as it gets.
I think UVA can be a good job with the right coach. Conversely, I don't think anyone really wants to stay in Pullman all that long.
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Of the current openings, ark has best combo of support, money, locale, etc. that said, they have really not made a gray hire since nolan left
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Do you consider of the openings "really good"? I don't think I do. GT is probably the closest.
arkansas is really close. ou & gtech right behind them.
dunno, i mean they're better than kstate. but as a coach, you do have to be careful about burning up your accumulated store of goodwill - you'll never have that again at any job. or at least never be able to accumulate it as quickly as at your first job.
it's great that martin's behavior is considered embarrassing by some people. really helps keep the worry down.
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Do you consider of the openings "really good"? I don't think I do. GT is probably the closest.
arkansas is really close. ou & gtech right behind them.
dunno, i mean they're better than kstate. but as a coach, you do have to be careful about burning up your accumulated store of goodwill - you'll never have that again at any job. or at least never be able to accumulate it as quickly as at your first job.
it's great that martin's behavior is considered embarrassing by some people. really helps keep the worry down.
quick question. should we be openly talking as horribly about martin as possible in order to try and keep him? bomb GT bball sit
es w/ reports about how horrible of a person he is and how we want him gone cause he's such a loose cannon, etc?
i mean, i have spare time and all.
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dunno, i mean they're better than kstate.
I don't disagree with anything you just said, but it's getting better. If the TV deals pay as much as they say/think they will, and we get the practice facility done up right, and the OOD keeps developing it's reputation, it will continue moving up the list.
I'm not saying it's ever going to be a Top 20 job or anything like that, but at some point, we'll be able to put more money forth than some other schools out there. The ACC's TV deal will pale in comparison to ours in about five years, so we'll have a little more cash and some new facilities to throw around.
I think there's something to be said about our willingness to worship you if you just compete for conference championships. That has to give a coach some moment of pause.
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I'm not saying it's ever going to be a Top 20 job or anything like that, but at some point, we'll be able to put more money forth than some other schools out there.
not to attack you specifically, but i hate when people bring this stuff up. every big-time school could afford to pay 5 million for a coach, most could afford a lot more. texas could probably pay 20-30 million. but they aren't going to just like i'm not going to take out a mortgage and buy a 50k pizza. most people and organizations don't want to pay more than market value for anything, regardless of their ability to do so.
I think there's something to be said about our willingness to worship you if you just compete for conference championships. That has to give a coach some moment of pause.
completely agree.
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I'm not saying it's ever going to be a Top 20 job or anything like that, but at some point, we'll be able to put more money forth than some other schools out there.
not to attack you specifically, but i hate when people bring this stuff up. every big-time school could afford to pay 5 million for a coach, most could afford a lot more. texas could probably pay 20-30 million. but they aren't going to just like i'm not going to take out a mortgage and buy a 50k pizza. most people and organizations don't want to pay more than market value for anything, regardless of their ability to do so.
None taken. No one wants to pay more than market value for anything, and I completely agree with that.
The thing is that our ability to retain coaches at market value will increase. Two years ago, I don't think we had room in the budget to pay market value for a good coach. Now, I think we can scare some money together.
It just seemed like last year, when Martin's extension was being hammered out, we were looking under couch cushions for cash. That could be completely untrue, and my observation on the situation could be completely false, but that was what I seemed to gather from our actions.
I guess my point is that I don't want money to be the thing that prevents us from keeping a good coach. If someone wants to overbid (i.e. Oregon), you can't compete with that. But as long as we aren't chasing absurd figures, and we're within the realm of reason, I would like to think/hope that we can at least keep up with the majority of the Jones'.
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None taken. No one wants to pay more than market value for anything, and I completely agree with that.
The thing is that our ability to retain coaches at market value will increase. Two years ago, I don't think we had room in the budget to pay market value for a good coach. Now, I think we can scare some money together.
It just seemed like last year, when Martin's extension was being hammered out, we were looking under couch cushions for cash. That could be completely untrue, and my observation on the situation could be completely false, but that was what I seemed to gather from our actions.
I guess my point is that I don't want money to be the thing that prevents us from keeping a good coach. If someone wants to overbid (i.e. Oregon), you can't compete with that. But as long as we aren't chasing absurd figures, and we're within the realm of reason, I would like to think/hope that we can at least keep up with the majority of the Jones'.
just tuck talk.
can, just may prefer not to.
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So I live in Durham, NC and its pretty laughable how people from our sister school, NC State, view themselves in the ranks of college bball. They really think NC State is a top 20 - maybe top 15 - job and that they can pull any coach from a school not named UNC or Duke.
According to most of the sports radio hosts and callers around hear:
1.) Rick Barnes is their number choice. :lol: :lol: :lol: I mean, who wants to coach at a fb school? (Also, cause he's a carolina boy and they think he'll come home like Roy...again it's a laughable comparison)
2.) Sean Miller from Arizona is next (Seriously?!?! Zona recruiting is >>>NC State)
3.) Mark Fox from Georgia is next. (Meh, this resonable)
4.) All other "up-in-comers"
As for Frank Martin, a quote from the radio on the way home from work today, "That guy is too crazy for ACC basketball. Do you think Coach K and Roy will allow that kind of craziness in our league?"
NC State plays ball in a facking hockey arena...god I hate the ACC.