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Title: Hate it
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2011, 05:45:13 PM
I think I hate it. Someone tell me I shouldn't.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Bookcat on March 13, 2011, 05:46:05 PM
I think I hate it. Someone tell me I shouldn't.


because we were talking NIT in late January.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2011, 05:46:17 PM
You should hate it, Utah State is the kind of team I hate to see our "everybody run to the ball leave the guy wide open shooting the 3" defense play.

Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: EMAWzified on March 13, 2011, 05:46:37 PM
I didn't notice. Where we playing?
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: doom on March 13, 2011, 05:48:08 PM
tuscon.  not a good match up for either round. 
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: kougar24 on March 13, 2011, 06:21:36 PM
Utah State:
kenpom #17
twice as close to Tucson as K-State
kenpom 7th most experienced team in the nation

Awesome 12-seed, guys, thanks for that.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 13, 2011, 06:23:07 PM
think positive, dorks
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 13, 2011, 06:26:22 PM
we are a 5 seed. thats awesome. go cats!

those guys (usu) also didn't pass the eye test when CBS showed them on tv, if they play like they look should be a long day for USU.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Fuktard on March 13, 2011, 06:26:51 PM
I'm not too upset...we were probably the worst 5 seed.  But of the other 12 seeds:  Memphis, Richmond, and the play-in game (Clemson-UAB), I probably like our matchup better than Richmond and not much worse than Memphis.  Yeah they're 30-3 but theres a lot of mid-low major teams with redic records that are very beatable.  USU would have been sub .500 in the Big 12.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2011, 06:32:58 PM
i wish were got St. John's 6 seed.  we're f'd even if we make it past Utah State.  goddamnit.  now I have to actually start paying attention to spring practice reports. Go Tuggle!
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2011, 06:35:39 PM
I wonder what the QB depth chart is going to look like.

Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: kougar24 on March 13, 2011, 06:39:19 PM
we know from experience how awesome a matchup Wisky is for us.

 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: threadkiller on March 13, 2011, 06:39:58 PM
You should hate it, Utah State is the kind of team I hate to see our "everybody run to the ball leave the guy wide open shooting the 3" defense play.



Because we drew the 67th best 3pt % team in the NCAA?
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2011, 06:42:47 PM
I wonder what the QB depth chart is going to look like.



I would think Tuggle, Sams, then Klein.  I'm hoping our lights out defense allows us to make some of our OOC games blowouts so Sams gets some good time in. 
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: kougar24 on March 13, 2011, 06:46:39 PM
Well, at least the weekend after next just opened up for all of us. :users:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: beserkr29 on March 13, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
USU isn't that good.  Best win is over Saint Mary's.  Played BYU close when the Cougars weren't particularly strong early, then got curb-stomped by G-town.  A paper tiger if I ever saw one.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 07:19:21 PM
i wish were got St. John's 6 seed.  we're f'd even if we make it past Utah State.  goddamnit.  now I have to actually start paying attention to spring practice reports. Go Tuggle!



I've got (13) Belmont knocking off (4) Wisconsin.  You guys are in the Sweet 16 if you get past Utah St, and then it's  :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 07:20:03 PM
USU isn't that good.  Best win is over Saint Mary's.  Played BYU close when the Cougars weren't particularly strong early, then got curb-stomped by G-town.  A paper tiger if I ever saw one.



They're basically Northern Iowa.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 13, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
USU isn't that good.  Best win is over Saint Mary's.  Played BYU close when the Cougars weren't particularly strong early, then got curb-stomped by G-town.  A paper tiger if I ever saw one.



They're basically Northern Iowa.
:blindfold:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Tobias on March 13, 2011, 07:25:45 PM
They're basically Northern Iowa.

 :pbj:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Rams on March 13, 2011, 08:20:06 PM
I rough ridin' hate the fact that we're the 12 over 5 upset that I'd pick this year if I wasn't a q@.  :frown:

...and I still might...

 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2011, 08:22:25 PM
I rough ridin' hate the fact that we're the 12 over 5 upset that I'd pick this year if I wasn't a q@.  :frown:

...and I still might...

 :goodbyecruelworld:
exactly
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 13, 2011, 08:46:53 PM
I rough ridin' hate the fact that we're the 12 over 5 upset that I'd pick this year if I wasn't a q@.  :frown:

...and I still might...

 :goodbyecruelworld:

Meh. The one that everyone expects is the one that never happens.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Rams on March 13, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
I rough ridin' hate the fact that we're the 12 over 5 upset that I'd pick this year if I wasn't a q@.  :frown:

...and I still might...

 :goodbyecruelworld:

Meh. The one that everyone expects is the one that never happens.
Patently false.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: MakeItRain on March 14, 2011, 12:46:36 AM
I rough ridin' hate the fact that we're the 12 over 5 upset that I'd pick this year if I wasn't a q@.  :frown:

...and I still might...

 :goodbyecruelworld:

Meh. The one that everyone expects is the one that never happens.
Patently false.

so then pick it and shut the eff up about it :ck:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: BigCat on March 14, 2011, 12:54:29 AM
we know from experience how awesome a matchup Wisky is for us.

 :goodbyecruelworld:

it's very hard to beat a good team twice in a four-year span

almost impossible really
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: jtksu on March 14, 2011, 01:24:10 AM
This year's team and Beas' team are nothing alike. 
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: BigCat on March 14, 2011, 01:41:27 AM
This year's team and Beas' team are nothing alike. 

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: chum1 on March 14, 2011, 06:58:21 AM
kenpom/rpi is pretty much worthless here unless you think that the quality of their opponents is comparable to the quality of ours.  i don't.  at all.  the selection committee got usu's seed right.  we should be able to stomp on them.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: sys on March 14, 2011, 07:40:55 AM
i looked at a few minutes of an espn3 game.  they don't look good enough to be a 12 seed, to be honest.  they look easy to guard, sloppy with the ball, passive on defense and not particularly talented.

i want to see more, to try and resolve the discrepancy between how they look and their ratings, but i just can't imagine them beating kstate, unless they have a ftrate of like a 100 or something.

they do kill the dboards, though.  5 guys, pretty much every shot.


they have a guy that's like a white jamar samuels clone.  pretty funny, though he doesn't run right for a samuels.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: kso_FAN on March 14, 2011, 07:48:38 AM
i looked at a few minutes of an espn3 game.  they don't look good enough to be a 12 seed, to be honest.  they look easy to guard, sloppy with the ball, passive on defense and not particularly talented.

i want to see more, to try and resolve the discrepancy between how they look and their ratings, but i just can't imagine them beating kstate, unless they have a ftrate of like a 100 or something.

they do kill the dboards, though.  5 guys, pretty much every shot.


they have a guy that's like a white jamar samuels clone.  pretty funny, though he doesn't run right for a samuels.

Good observos.

They rate well because they are 30-3, they killed a lot of the teams they played while forcing them into ridiculously low shooting percentages, they don't give up offensive rebounds at all, and Stew Morrell is a very good coach for that level of basketball. But they have plenty of flaws and don't present any of the match-up issues that I'd be most concerned about, especially long guards with the ability to drive and score.

It will be interesting to see how Frank attacks their weird 3-2 match-up zone.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: sys on March 14, 2011, 07:55:33 AM
It will be interesting to see how Frank attacks their weird 3-2 match-up zone.

it seemed like the corners were wide open, but their opposition (boise st) didn't try to run anyone down there.  their wings are short and don't seem to cover a ton of ground.  i'd think that mcgruder and spradler could shoot the cover off two or three balls against that.

would like to see what they look like against a team that puts a shooter in the corner though.
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2011, 08:00:17 AM
Toughest, hardest, hellbracket I've ever seen in the history of brackets including conference and pre-season tourny brackets and also NBA playoffs.   :dubious:
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 14, 2011, 10:13:22 AM
Toughest, hardest, hellbracket I've ever seen in the history of brackets including conference and pre-season tourny brackets and also NBA playoffs.   :dubious:

Agreed. I would even bet two teams from our bracket make the Elite 8, and one makes the Final 4. Am I out of line?
Title: Re: Hate it
Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2011, 10:54:53 AM
If you were to split up the teams in our hellbracket amongst the other brackets our bracket's teams would end up fielding the entire sweet 16  :dubious: