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Title: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2011, 10:31:52 PM
ESPN just did a segment about how Kansas owns the Big 12 in basketball, with all of their real and shared conference championships.  Yet, they have so few national championships relative to other schools with as many conference championships in the major conferences.

Is it because the rest of us in this conference are so bad?  I mean, Bob Knight has as many national championships as KU, and Roy Williams is personally tied with KU since the Eisenhower administration, and up until 2008 KU was tied with San Fransisco.


Are we all failing KU?  Maybe KU should leave this conference so they can get better prepared and not fail so much in the NCAA tournament?  Ideas?



Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: pike on March 12, 2011, 10:33:18 PM
With they amount of talent they have had the last 15 years or so they should have 15 titles, but they don't which is quite sad, really
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Bob Strawn on March 12, 2011, 10:33:27 PM
ESPN just did a segment about how Kansas owns the Big 12 in basketball, with all of their real and shared conference championships.  Yet, they have so few national championships relative to other schools with as many conference championships in the major conferences.

Is it because the rest of us in this conference are so bad?  I mean, Bob Knight has as many national championships as KU, and Roy Williams is personally tied with KU since the Eisenhower administration, and up until 2008 KU was tied with San Fransisco.


Are we all failing KU?  Maybe KU should leave this conference so they can get better prepared and not fail so much in the NCAA tournament?  Ideas?





5>0
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Pete on March 12, 2011, 10:39:05 PM
ESPN just did a segment about how Kansas owns the Big 12 in basketball, with all of their real and shared conference championships.  Yet, they have so few national championships relative to other schools with as many conference championships in the major conferences.

Is it because the rest of us in this conference are so bad?  I mean, Bob Knight has as many national championships as KU, and Roy Williams is personally tied with KU since the Eisenhower administration, and up until 2008 KU was tied with San Fransisco.


Are we all failing KU?  Maybe KU should leave this conference so they can get better prepared and not fail so much in the NCAA tournament?  Ideas?





5>0

What does the five represent? 
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: pike on March 12, 2011, 10:44:09 PM
ESPN just did a segment about how Kansas owns the Big 12 in basketball, with all of their real and shared conference championships.  Yet, they have so few national championships relative to other schools with as many conference championships in the major conferences.

Is it because the rest of us in this conference are so bad?  I mean, Bob Knight has as many national championships as KU, and Roy Williams is personally tied with KU since the Eisenhower administration, and up until 2008 KU was tied with San Fransisco.


Are we all failing KU?  Maybe KU should leave this conference so they can get better prepared and not fail so much in the NCAA tournament?  Ideas?





5>0

What does the five represent? 

Number of players on the floor per team?
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: PowercatPat on March 12, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
It's so laughable that KU counts their helms titles as national championships.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: ben_dover919 on March 12, 2011, 11:37:51 PM
i would have loved to be in lawrence 20 years after the last game was played when they announced the helms national championships..i mean the celebration had to be out of this world!!! it will be like when colorado is given the 2031 big 12 championship for beating the best team  in the conference 3 times!!!  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 12:09:26 AM
KU is top five in NCAA tournament wins, Final Fours, and NCAA championships.  They're 2nd all-time in wins and 1st in conference championships. 
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: theKSU on March 13, 2011, 12:21:00 AM
KU is top five in NCAA tournament wins, Final Fours, and NCAA championships.  They're 2nd all-time in wins and 1st in conference championships. 

Top 5 != 1st or 2nd, which is the point of this thread. 
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Ira Hayes on March 13, 2011, 12:34:38 AM
Can't post this link enough: http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/2908

Also love the Bob Knight comparo.  :nerd:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 13, 2011, 07:36:50 AM
ku, while a fine program with a proud history does indeed underperform the majority of the time which begs this question.  I have the answer to this mystery.  First we must acknowledge that their program has been very good and I will not in anyway argue that point.  Next ku fans must realize that for the last 25 years there has been little resistence from our conference.  The north has never been competitive and represents 2/3 of ku's conf. schedule ( hard to lose a title when you start out 10-0 or 9-1 every year before you play the south)  Texas, ou, and osu have put together some squads, and to be honest isu, mizzou, and ksu of very recent history have competed at times.  So what we have here is a team that rarely challenges itself in the non-con, wins conf titles, everybody thinks they are as good as their untested record, and then they perform like a 33-2 mid-major every year in march.  It really is this simple.  One byproduct of this decieving annual dance is that it helps recruiting constantly being ranked high, but they still eff it up :facepalm:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: WavetheWheat on March 13, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Sad to see the goEMAW.com transition to Tigerboard is complete.  :emawkid:

Pete you have a lot to live up to to take down FijiTiger.  Good luck.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: kstater on March 13, 2011, 08:17:47 AM
It goes to show how much of a random crapshoot the NCAA tournament is.  Really need to go to double elimination to get a true champion.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: unleashthemob on March 13, 2011, 08:56:31 AM
One reason is....they don't have big 12 officiating to coddle them once they get to the dance.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Dirty Deeds on March 13, 2011, 08:59:07 AM
Take away the fake titles and the ones they couldn't defend due to cheating.  How many does that leave them with?  Pathetic for such a "storied" program.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: WavetheWheat on March 13, 2011, 09:28:30 AM
Take away the fake titles and the ones the couldn't defend due to cheating.  How many does that leave them with?  Pathetic for such a "storied" program.

Fantastic TB parody.  You are only missing one thing.

"Kansas Sucks! nm."
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 13, 2011, 09:50:13 AM
Careful Pete, you're over your bag limit. 

Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Dirty Deeds on March 13, 2011, 10:35:51 AM
Take away the fake titles and the ones the couldn't defend due to cheating.  How many does that leave them with?  Pathetic for such a "storied" program.

Fantastic TB parody.  You are only missing one thing.

"Kansas Sucks! nm."
Don't ever let the truth get in your way.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: samwise on March 13, 2011, 11:29:40 AM
Last year was a huge disappointment for me, obviously. It is tough to win six games in a row against good competition but the second round losses really sting. Overall our success in the tournament isn't bad, though. 85-38 tournament record, 13 final fours, and three national championships. If we play the entire tournament like we did against Texas last night we will have another final four appearance. Big if, though.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Cire on March 13, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Surprised to see wtw so butthurt over this.  Interesting.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: WavetheWheat on March 13, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
 :ck:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 13, 2011, 11:57:56 AM
If you are really worthy of a 1 or 2 seed, your first three games should be layups, automatic elite 8 and then find out what you are made of in the last 3.  In my opinion with few exceptions 1-2 seeds that don't make the elite 8 are frauds, and if the shoe fits  :ck:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: deputy dawg on March 13, 2011, 12:06:46 PM
It's so laughable that KU counts their helms titles as national championships.
I think it's adorable, on par with your 25 year old nephew recounting winning his school's 3rd grade spelling bee. 
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 13, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
Obviously Helms didn't live long enough.  According to Helms, Yale has won 11 NC's in football, suck it Nebraska.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: SevenInARow on March 13, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
It's so laughable that KU counts their helms titles as national championships.
I think it's adorable, on par with your 25 year old nephew recounting winning his school's 3rd grade spelling bee. 
It's so adorable that North Carolina does it too.

I will say that the lack of elite competition within the Big XII hurts KU. What can we do though? We found out over the summer that we're stuck with you losers and there's nothing we can do about it. Sucks. I guess we'll just have to stick with making a final four only a couple times a decade and dominating the conference every single year.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Bob Strawn on March 13, 2011, 01:25:03 PM
You delusional fellas ought to worry about your own success, of which there is none.

Not ours.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Dirty Deeds on March 13, 2011, 01:27:49 PM
You delusional fellas ought to worry about your own success, of which there is none.

Not ours.
says the KU dork on a KSU board.  Who's really worried? 84-68 still stings doesn't it?
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Bob Strawn on March 13, 2011, 01:33:10 PM
You delusional fellas ought to worry about your own success, of which there is none.

Not ours.
says the KU dork on a KSU board.  Who's really worried? 84-68 still stings doesn't it?

Well you guys made a topic about it so you. But no, not really. There was also 90-66. And the last 100 years.

You guys are a joke team.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2011, 01:37:48 PM
A JOKE OF A TEAM!
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Dirty Deeds on March 13, 2011, 01:39:24 PM
Surprised to see wtw so butthurt over this.  Interesting.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Dirty Deeds on March 13, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
Must have been a wild celebration in Larry last night. Lots of sore ass.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: kyles on March 13, 2011, 01:55:52 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: pike on March 13, 2011, 01:58:04 PM
Must have been a wild celebration in Larry last night. Lots of sore ass.

Party was in MHK last night where no one gave a sh*t about Hayseed U's win over Texas (for once)
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: PowercatPat on March 13, 2011, 02:18:46 PM
The KU posters have taken the bait again.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: billyheisman on March 13, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
The KU posters have taken the bait again.

Gotta love how KSU fans start a ridiculous topic, get blown out of the water with facts, and then it becomes "ZOMG, lol it was good bait."

Clever, bros.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 03:27:01 PM
Lots of butt hurt powertards in this thread. 


 :love:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2011, 03:34:40 PM
Lots of butt hurt powertards in this thread. 


 :love:

Really going to miss you when KU loses in the second round again. The bball off season is so long. It is always worth the wait though with your annual "KU is better this year without....." thread. Can't wait.

FYI your new avatar thingy and sig is dumb.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
Lots of butt hurt powertards in this thread. 


 :love:

Really going to miss you when KU loses in the second round again. The bball off season is so long. It is always worth the wait though with your annual "KU is better this year without....." thread. Can't wait.

FYI your new avatar thingy and sig is dumb.



(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_aFiaWuxIw-8/TXA83T6j73I/AAAAAAAAAJs/JGSYEZMcK78/s512/charlie-murphy-1.JPG)
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: PowercatPat on March 13, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
The KU posters have taken the bait again.

Gotta love how KSU fans start a ridiculous topic, get blown out of the water with facts, and then it becomes "ZOMG, lol it was good bait."

Clever, bros.


You really couldn't detect Pete's sarcasm when he started this thread?
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Maccat on March 13, 2011, 04:35:45 PM
Lots of butt hurt powertards in this thread. 


 :love:
Ironic talking about coke and having a pic of trob. Maybe he is warning Charlie Sheen to stay from crack whores.
Really going to miss you when KU loses in the second round again. The bball off season is so long. It is always worth the wait though with your annual "KU is better this year without....." thread. Can't wait.

FYI your new avatar thingy and sig is dumb.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: _33 on March 13, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
The media hates KU and loves the cats. This is worth more than national championships.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 05:02:13 PM
The media hates KU and loves the cats. This is worth more than national championships.



Everyone on ESPN and CBS has been sucking KU's c*ck for the past 24 hours.  What alternate universe are you living in? 
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Pete on March 13, 2011, 05:05:24 PM
They just showed KU in a room celebrating their seed, and CBS called them "Coach K's squad."   :lol:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 13, 2011, 05:06:45 PM
They just showed KU in a room celebrating their seed, and CBS called them "Coach K's squad."   :lol:

That was hilarious.  National media couldn't care less about ku.
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: _33 on March 13, 2011, 05:52:48 PM
7 straight conference championships and the media elite still don't know who coaches KU. Meanwhile they absolutely love that that crazy character Frank Martin and his sideline antics.  :lol: They just can't get enough of the cats.  :lol:
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: OregonSmock on March 13, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
They just showed KU in a room celebrating their seed, and CBS called them "Coach K's squad."   :lol:



That's actually a compliment to Bill Self. 
Title: Re: How does KU have so few national championships?
Post by: Pendergast on March 13, 2011, 06:12:06 PM
I always consider it a compliment when someone doesn't know my name.