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Title: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 09, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
USA Today has him going 13th overall in the 2011 draft.  I knew the kid was good but I didn't know he was that good.  They project him as the 5th high school player taken.  I know it's petty of me but I hope he signs and never plays for Nubb, I would hate to lose that type of kid to an out of state program.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 09, 2011, 11:10:52 PM
He is a total punk.  Or that is what I hear...
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 09, 2011, 11:48:49 PM
He is a total punk.  Or that is what I hear...

Can confirm.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: PowercatPat on March 09, 2011, 11:49:42 PM
He is a total punk.  Or that is what I hear...

Can confirm.

Same here. He is a douche.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 09, 2011, 11:50:55 PM
He is a total punk.  Or that is what I hear...

Can confirm.

Same here. He is a douche.

He's a brady morningstar minus the money and DUIs
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 10, 2011, 02:29:20 AM
Pretty sure Brady was in the 7th grade at the age of 18.  Kinda hard to compare the two.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 10, 2011, 07:33:40 AM
A guy named Taylor prays he gets drafted as well.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWesome on March 10, 2011, 07:57:01 AM
I'm going to go check him out this Spring when he plays my alma mater...earlier projections had him as a top 5 pick...I'm sure teams are getting scared off by the unthinkable combination of Bo Pelini & Scott Boras that Bubba will have bending his ear.

Boras has stated that he will be seeking something in the $6M range for him to sign, so that will definitely scare a club (even though they would get a replacement pick the next year, it would still be a disappointment to get nothing from such a high pick).

When I get a chance to see this kid in person, I'm going to write an extended review on RoyalsReview.com & I'll link it here.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 10, 2011, 09:56:11 AM
I don't care who Nebraska does or does not get, and I will never have to care again. Feels good. :gocho:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: CNS on March 10, 2011, 09:57:44 AM
I don't care who Nebraska does or does not get, and I will never have to care again. Feels good. :gocho:

Our back yard.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: LickNeckey on March 10, 2011, 10:39:17 AM
scouts say he has plus tools both as an outfielder and as a pitcher.  played for USA baseball last year and was on roster as a pitcher, team had issues with injuries in the of and moved bubba to fill the spots.  bubba ended up playing a ton in center field and by the end of the summer many clubs now look at him as an of prospect (in fact Yankees scouts said they would have given him 4 million at the end of last summer to play of).
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: bigwillie20 on March 10, 2011, 11:00:52 AM
scouts say he has plus tools both as an outfielder and as a pitcher.  played for USA baseball last year and was on roster as a pitcher, team had issues with injuries in the of and moved bubba to fill the spots.  bubba ended up playing a ton in center field and by the end of the summer many clubs now look at him as an of prospect (in fact Yankees scouts said they would have given him 4 million at the end of last summer to play of).

 :bracketmouse:  <------ with check and glove
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Cackle on March 10, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
He is a total punk.  Or that is what I hear...

Can confirm.

Same here. He is a douche.

He's a brady morningstar minus the money and DUIs
and athletic ability.  and yes, he is a douche. 
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 10, 2011, 01:51:06 PM
scouts say he has plus tools both as an outfielder and as a pitcher.  played for USA baseball last year and was on roster as a pitcher, team had issues with injuries in the of and moved bubba to fill the spots.  bubba ended up playing a ton in center field and by the end of the summer many clubs now look at him as an of prospect (in fact Yankees scouts said they would have given him 4 million at the end of last summer to play of).

You would have to be a real dumbass to not at least try baseball if you are good enough to get drafted that high. Baseball players make more money than football players, and they have far fewer mental/physical problems when they retire.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 10, 2011, 02:40:52 PM
Yeah, the article I read projected him as a center fielder, not a pitcher.  Another reason to choose baseball is that you can always come back to football if your pro baseball career fizzles.  I kinda doubt scouts are too worried about his demands.  6 mil for a top 15 pick isn't unreasonable.  Hell, Harper got like a 15 mil signing bonus.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 10, 2011, 10:08:04 PM
Why is he a douche  :dunno:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 10, 2011, 10:10:42 PM
Talks about himself in the third person, FP, TC etc.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 10, 2011, 10:34:43 PM
Talks about himself in the third person, FP, TC etc.

You kidding me? If my name was Bubba Starling and I was a two-sport mega-stud I'd be referring to myself in the fourth person.

Bubba: "I don't think Bubba appreciates it when you talk about him like that."  - just normal talk.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rams on March 10, 2011, 10:44:40 PM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any fucktard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 10, 2011, 10:58:22 PM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any efftard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.

Totally. The guys behind Facebook. Twitter. Groupon. Foursquare. All should have taken the money. F-ing losers, look at them now.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rams on March 11, 2011, 09:15:52 AM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any efftard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.

Totally. The guys behind Facebook. Twitter. Groupon. Foursquare. All should have taken the money. F-ing losers, look at them now.

 :facepalm:

Jeezus, Paul.  How can your previous post be so good and this one be so very, very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Maybe sound reasoning and logical comparisons just aren't really your thing.  Stick with the witty one-liners and you should be fine.  Good luck!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 11, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any efftard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.

Totally. The guys behind Facebook. Twitter. Groupon. Foursquare. All should have taken the money. F-ing losers, look at them now.

 :facepalm:

Jeezus, Paul.  How can your previous post be so good and this one be so very, very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Maybe sound reasoning and logical comparisons just aren't really your thing.  Stick with the witty one-liners and you should be fine.  Good luck!  :thumbsup:

The comparison is between doing something you really enjoy and the possibility of making a lot of money vs. taking the safe bet with something you somewhat enjoy and a guarantee of high income.

Moscow's opinion is that money, as a sole motivator, in the long-term may actually be less likely to lead you to a higher income. And this is especially true for professional sports wherein strict dedication to the sport (and in many cases, luck) in all aspects of your life is required to secure a roster spot much less maintain that spot year in and year out. Surely, for someone who doesn't greatly enjoy the sport this would be extremely taxing, regardless of how much money you have in the bank.

Considering Bubba's position he'd be much better off in terms of his own personal happiness (doing something he greatly enjoys) which barring injury would maximize his total career longevity and in regards to his finances (presumptuous of you to assume he values money like you do) make him richer than he had even imagined. All by picking the sport that he enjoys most.

Any of the founders of the above companies were either already at or on the fast track to high-paying corporate careers. According to you, they should have gotten hit by a bus the morning they quit their job, grad school, etc to go try something they wanted more for less pay.

Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 11, 2011, 11:22:40 AM
Can we ban Paul Moscow?

Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 11, 2011, 11:36:36 AM
Can we ban Paul Moscow?



 :gocho:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
Can we ban Paul Moscow?



no, denied.  lives in NYC. 
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Pete on March 11, 2011, 12:35:37 PM
Baseball is stupid.  If I had the talent to play major league baseball, I'd play international Cricket instead.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2011, 02:49:53 PM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any efftard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.

Totally. The guys behind Facebook. Twitter. Groupon. Foursquare. All should have taken the money. F-ing losers, look at them now.

 :facepalm:

Jeezus, Paul.  How can your previous post be so good and this one be so very, very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Maybe sound reasoning and logical comparisons just aren't really your thing.  Stick with the witty one-liners and you should be fine.  Good luck!  :thumbsup:

The comparison is between doing something you really enjoy and the possibility of making a lot of money vs. taking the safe bet with something you somewhat enjoy and a guarantee of high income.

Moscow's opinion is that money, as a sole motivator, in the long-term may actually be less likely to lead you to a higher income. And this is especially true for professional sports wherein strict dedication to the sport (and in many cases, luck) in all aspects of your life is required to secure a roster spot much less maintain that spot year in and year out. Surely, for someone who doesn't greatly enjoy the sport this would be extremely taxing, regardless of how much money you have in the bank.

Considering Bubba's position he'd be much better off in terms of his own personal happiness (doing something he greatly enjoys) which barring injury would maximize his total career longevity and in regards to his finances (presumptuous of you to assume he values money like you do) make him richer than he had even imagined. All by picking the sport that he enjoys most.

Any of the founders of the above companies were either already at or on the fast track to high-paying corporate careers. According to you, they should have gotten hit by a bus the morning they quit their job, grad school, etc to go try something they wanted more for less pay.



True, but we're talking about $6 million now for an 18 year old kid vs. playing for free for at least 2 years, then being fortunate enough to be drafted and probably still make less than $6 million. There is just much more money out there for baseball players. If he is going to play college football, he'd better be the next Bo Jackson for it to make sense.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: CNS on March 11, 2011, 09:35:25 PM
Baseball is stupid.  If I had the talent to play major league baseball, I'd play international Cricket instead.

Baseball is the worst sport known to man.  That said, it would be the best one to be a pro athlete in.  They don't do crap, they play forever, and they get paid as well, or better, than a lot of other sports.

I mean, how hard is it to swing a rough ridin' bat 4 times a game, then run 90' every so often.  

Anwer:  Not hard.  

Anyone with decent talent that isn't a pitcher should be able to play until they are eligible for social security. 

If Bubba goes right out of HS, he should have a 45yr career.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rams on March 11, 2011, 09:41:34 PM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any efftard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.

Totally. The guys behind Facebook. Twitter. Groupon. Foursquare. All should have taken the money. F-ing losers, look at them now.

 :facepalm:

Jeezus, Paul.  How can your previous post be so good and this one be so very, very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Maybe sound reasoning and logical comparisons just aren't really your thing.  Stick with the witty one-liners and you should be fine.  Good luck!  :thumbsup:

The comparison is between doing something you really enjoy and the possibility of making a lot of money vs. taking the safe bet with something you somewhat enjoy and a guarantee of high income.

Moscow's opinion is that money, as a sole motivator, in the long-term may actually be less likely to lead you to a higher income. And this is especially true for professional sports wherein strict dedication to the sport (and in many cases, luck) in all aspects of your life is required to secure a roster spot much less maintain that spot year in and year out. Surely, for someone who doesn't greatly enjoy the sport this would be extremely taxing, regardless of how much money you have in the bank.

Considering Bubba's position he'd be much better off in terms of his own personal happiness (doing something he greatly enjoys) which barring injury would maximize his total career longevity and in regards to his finances (presumptuous of you to assume he values money like you do) make him richer than he had even imagined. All by picking the sport that he enjoys most.

Any of the founders of the above companies were either already at or on the fast track to high-paying corporate careers. According to you, they should have gotten hit by a bus the morning they quit their job, grad school, etc to go try something they wanted more for less pay.


Since you spent so much time (wasted) on this post (horrible) I guess I'll take the time to tell you where you're wrong (everywhere).

Your comparison is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because Bubba (rough ridin' stupid name) has nothing to gain financially by waiting to go pro, and he nothing to lose financially by turning pro now...but he has EVERYTHING to lose by going to college to play football.  Zuckerberg et al. had tough decisions to make.  They could give up large stakes in their companies in order to reap the guaranteed financial benefits now, or they could take a chance that those companies would continue to multiply in value and they would continue to be the sole (or at least majority) shareholder of a much more valuable asset down the road.  For every Zuckerberg, there's a thousand douchebags that held on too long and ran their company into the ground after turning down millions.  And for every Mark Cuban that cashed out at the peak and laughed all the way to the bank, there's a thousand suckers that sold out too early only watch a company they used to own multiply a thousand times in value virtually overnight.  

First of all, I refuse to believe that anyone can achieve the level of success he already has (being slotted in the top 15 in the draft out of high school) without having a passion for that sport.  Maybe it's not his favorite, but you don't get that good at something without loving it.  But even if that is true, he should just enter the draft, collect his check for a few years while phoning it in and then go play football for the Nubbs in a few years if that's his dream (  :barf: ).  It's not like there isn't a precedent for that.

I'll make this really simple.  Make a list of the worst things that could happen and the best things that could happen with either decision and see how that adds up.  Here's a hint: it doesn't look good for the Cornholes.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about a guy name Bubba making a decision about which game to play for a living.  If his one and only decision maker isn't money than he can rough ridin' die in a fire.  And if he doesn't "value money" like I do than he's rough ridin' stupid, and I want stupid people to die in a fire.  Either way, if he doesn't choose baseball, death by fire.

Thus concludes the longest post I ever hope to make on this fantastic internet website.  eff you for baiting me into it.

SIDENOTE:  Totally with Casey on his baseball theory.  Solid work there.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2011, 10:53:25 PM
I don't know about anybody else, but this Rams guys just doesn't rub me the right way.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rams on March 11, 2011, 11:04:32 PM
I don't know about anybody else, but this Rams guys just doesn't rub me the right way.

 :cry: That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me. 
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: MobDeep on March 12, 2011, 08:27:02 AM
I hope he turns down the millions and plays QB for the Nubbs.

I also hope he has a career ending injury on the first play from scrimmage.

Any efftard that turns down that much scratch to play a game, just so he can play a different game that he kinda likes better for a few years, doesn't deserve to breath the same air as me.

Matter of fact, eff it, I hope he gets a career ending injury tomorrow just for pretending he was gonna turn down the guaranteed millions.

Totally. The guys behind Facebook. Twitter. Groupon. Foursquare. All should have taken the money. F-ing losers, look at them now.

 :facepalm:

Jeezus, Paul.  How can your previous post be so good and this one be so very, very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Maybe sound reasoning and logical comparisons just aren't really your thing.  Stick with the witty one-liners and you should be fine.  Good luck!  :thumbsup:

The comparison is between doing something you really enjoy and the possibility of making a lot of money vs. taking the safe bet with something you somewhat enjoy and a guarantee of high income.


No way this kid would ever go to the NFL as a Quarterback. He has a baseball throwing motion and all his high school ever did was run left and run right.

Maybe he could have a good career at nub, hello Eric Crouch, but anything beyond that in football is a stretch.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 12, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
Can we ban Paul Moscow?



no, denied.  lives in NYC. 

Did not know . . . Welcome NYC Elite Paul Moscow
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Poonhound69 on March 12, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
Really talented QB's with serious NFL aspirations don't go to NU, that place is QB suicide. 
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWzified on March 13, 2011, 01:08:53 PM
Saw him play football twice. It was before Gardner moved up to a 5A league so he was playing a 4A school. Had enough talent at receiver all he had to do is loft it high in the air, and they'd go get it. Didn't see any bullets but not to say he can't throw them. Was impressive running the ball.

Let the Nubbs have him; we'll take Bender.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 14, 2011, 06:29:58 PM
Played against him 3 times. He's not a good enough passer to make it. If you cut off his running lanes and make him beat you through the air, he's mumped. He'd be an absolute ignoramus to not play baseball. With that said, he just might be a complete ignoramus.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 14, 2011, 06:56:18 PM
So, your team obviously beat his 3 times and shut him down, right?  I mean, with the type of game plan you've designed, it seems like everyone would be able to, right?  Have you told all the schools that offered him and the recruiting services that rated him so highly about his glaring weaknesses?
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 14, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Actually, we did beat his ass 3 times.

:glorydays:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: hatingfrancisco on March 14, 2011, 08:24:34 PM
Actually, we did beat his ass 3 times.

:glorydays:


Stick that in your ass JTKSU!!   :pbj:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: Rams on March 14, 2011, 10:24:33 PM
Actually, we did beat his ass 3 times.

:glorydays:


Stick that in your ass JTKSU!!   :pbj:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 15, 2011, 12:56:55 AM
Bubba's team did put up 42 pts...
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 15, 2011, 10:42:54 AM
When? As I recall they scored 12 points in the 3 games.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 15, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
The only game he lost last year was to Blue Valley, 45-42.  Pretty sure he didn't start as a freshmen, so I assumed you played for Blue Valley.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 17, 2011, 03:56:36 PM
This is where steve dave steps in to tell jtksu to stop being creepy.   :dubious:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
No teenage boys were talked during the construction of my posts.  Unless Rivals was stalking them.  :ohno:
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 17, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
The only game he lost last year was to Blue Valley, 45-42.  Pretty sure he didn't start as a freshmen, so I assumed you played for Blue Valley.  :dunno:

He started as a frosh (at least when we played them) but they were a power run team.  I realize he's become much better since his soph year when we beat him twice, but if you look at his stats this season, he killed people on the ground.
Title: Re: Bubba Starling
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2011, 07:32:57 PM
Oh.  Rivals didn't show any stats for his frosh year so I assumed he didn't start.  My bads.