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Title: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: Houcat on February 27, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
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RPI Forecast with conference tourney
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/ct/Kansas%20St..html

They project Missouri and aTm as #7 seeds.
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: PowercatPat on February 27, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
That site also has Syracuse and ND as #1 seeds.
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 27, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
 :cheese:

I don't see that happening though. Our overall record is not pretty. I also think our record vs RPI 1-50 is really gonna cost us at seeding time.
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: Fuktard on February 27, 2011, 02:07:29 PM
If the committee stays consistent, they will take into consideration the early season suspensions and their effect on our early losses.  We are currently one of the hottest teams in the nation, out last 10 record come selection time should be solid.  If (huge if) we win at Texas and close out ISU, I could see us with a 4 or 5 seed.  We would clearly be playing like a 4-5 seed IF we finish like we can.  Hell our RPI sits at 25 now....it would take a big leap if we won at UT.
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: sys on February 27, 2011, 02:13:51 PM
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RPI Forecast with conference tourney
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/ct/Kansas%20St..html

kstate's modal projection is 6.   :surprised:
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 27, 2011, 02:18:03 PM
As of right now, i would say we are a solid 8 seed.    We need one more good win and we would have a good shot at getting a 7 seed.  

Mizzou is probably a 7 seed right now.   But we are very close behind them (in terms of seeding pecking order).   They have the edge in better non con wins (Vandy ODU Ill) to ours (VT Gonz Wazzu).   Our edge is we beat KU and have a better SOS by a ways

aTm is on the line between being a 6 seed and a 7 seed. Prob say 6 right now
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: sys on February 27, 2011, 02:19:57 PM
I also think our record vs RPI 1-50 is really gonna cost us at seeding time.

1-50 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  but if they do use that, kstate's 1-50 could be completely different looking by season's end.  currently 2-6, i think.  kstate should have at 2-4 more games against top 50 rpi teams.  gonzaga and vatech could wind up cracking the top 50.

when the metric you consider to be so important to seeding could vary from 2-8 to 8-6, i'm not sure how you can confidently project that it would either help or hurt.
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: nicname on February 27, 2011, 02:34:30 PM
I like statsheet.com's projector.  They do a really good job of explaining how it all works.  They have the Cats at a #6 seed as well.  Actually they have us as the strongest 6 seed, and with another big win or two a #5 or #4 seed is well within reason.  

http://kstateupdate.com/kansas-state-basketball/statseed-update/latest

Their B12 bids.

#1 KU
#2 UT
#6 KSU
#6 MU
#7 ATM
OSU is in first 4 out

Other teams of note
#1 Duke
#4 Florida
#8 UNLV
#13 Gonzaga
VT is in next four out
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: nicname on February 27, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
BTW, though the matchups are completely fictitious, a #6 KSU v. #11 FSU would be a defensive battle for the ages.
Title: ANYTHING
Post by: pencat on February 27, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
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RPI Forecast with conference tourney
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/ct/Kansas%20St..html

They project Missouri and aTm as #7 seeds.


ANYTHING BUT A N 8 OR 9.  Worst seeds in the tourney.

Bad Bad Bad    :chainsaw:
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: CrushNasty on February 27, 2011, 03:02:34 PM
I think I would take an 8 or 9 in BYU's region  :ck:

Think about playing a 9, BYU, then there is always a 12 or 13 that makes the Sweet 16... worse, it'd be a 4 or 5.

Really don't want to be an 8 or 9, but if we were, I'd def take BYU.
Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: KCFDcat on February 27, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
I think I would take an 8 or 9 in BYU's region  :ck:

Think about playing a 9, BYU, then there is always a 12 or 13 that makes the Sweet 16... worse, it'd be a 4 or 5.

Really don't want to be an 8 or 9, but if we were, I'd def take BYU.

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Title: Re: Would Take #6 Seed
Post by: PowercatPat on February 27, 2011, 03:32:37 PM
I think I would take an 8 or 9 in BYU's region  :ck:

Think about playing a 9, BYU, then there is always a 12 or 13 that makes the Sweet 16... worse, it'd be a 4 or 5.

Really don't want to be an 8 or 9, but if we were, I'd def take BYU.

I'd take that. I think we could beat the mormons.