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Title: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 25, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
tomorrow. what % chance do you give them to make it out of the first weekend NCAA tourney?  :dunno:


i'm starting to feel pretty bouncy about the whole thing personally. kinda like i want to fight or something. my predicto would be @50%, which is prob too high but good grief how could you not get caught up in stuff?
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: CNS on February 25, 2011, 11:36:46 AM
Early game is bad for us, imo.

Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: EllToPay on February 25, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
tomorrow. what % chance do you give them to make it out of the first weekend NCAA tourney?  :dunno:


i'm starting to feel pretty bouncy about the whole thing personally. kinda like i want to fight or something. my predicto would be @50%, which is prob too high but good grief how could you not get caught up in stuff?

depends if we get that wednesday off of the big 12 tourney, imo.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 25, 2011, 11:37:42 AM
We are not winning tomorrow.  Don't do this to yourself.

We'll slink into the tourney on the bubble and get donkey punched in the first round.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: CNS on February 25, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
We are not winning tomorrow.  Don't do this to yourself.

We'll slink into the tourney on the bubble and get donkey punched in the first round.

If we lose to MU and TX, I don't think we do get in   :ohno:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2011, 11:57:27 AM
Missouri is a must win. JMHO.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 25, 2011, 11:58:36 AM
Missouri is a must win. JMHO.

you didn't answer my original question  :blank:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2011, 11:59:38 AM
Missouri is a must win. JMHO.

you didn't answer my original question  :blank:

40-ish%
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 25, 2011, 12:01:17 PM
Missouri is a must win. JMHO.

you didn't answer my original question  :blank:

40-ish%

 :surprised:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2011, 12:04:59 PM
Missouri is a must win. JMHO.

you didn't answer my original question  :blank:

40-ish%

 :surprised:

This win still probably puts us on the 8/9 line, and that makes getting to the 2nd weekend tough. I'm expecting a loss @UT, but beat ISU and then get a good win in the Big 12 tournament and then things look up for a 7 seed.  Put us on the 7 line and I'd say >50%.  But right now with just a win against MU, still under 50%.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 25, 2011, 12:08:12 PM
Put us on the 7 line and I'd say >50%.  But right now with just a win against MU, still under 50%.


 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: EllToPay on February 25, 2011, 12:12:45 PM
Put us on the 7 line and I'd say >50%.  But right now with just a win against MU, still under 50%.


 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
>50% is probably a bit much. But I'd take our chances against most of the likely 2 seeds.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: EllToPay on February 25, 2011, 12:15:28 PM
>50% is probably a bit much.

:frown:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: catzacker on February 25, 2011, 12:32:50 PM
should we even make the tourney, I don't see how we get past the 1st weekend.  I think our seed range will be 7-10.  The #2 in our bracket will be a big east team, like f'ng Notre Dame or Villinova or GT or someone like that.  They'll destroy us.  And if we get on the 8/9 line, I mean, no f'ing way we beat Pitt or Ohio State or Duke.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: steve dave on February 25, 2011, 12:39:05 PM
second weekend would feel so damn elite  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: skycat on February 25, 2011, 03:36:09 PM
should we even make the tourney, I don't see how we get past the 1st weekend.  I think our seed range will be 7-10.  The #2 in our bracket will be a big east team, like f'ng Notre Dame or Villinova or GT or someone like that.  They'll destroy us.  And if we get on the 8/9 line, I mean, no f'ing way we beat Pitt or Ohio State or Duke.

Quote from: http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/bracket-projection/bracket-project
11.48%

That's as a 9 seed.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 25, 2011, 03:37:54 PM

Quote from: http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/bracket-projection/bracket-project
11.48%

yeah. gotta get out of that 8/9.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 25, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
We are not winning tomorrow.  Don't do this to yourself.

We'll slink into the tourney on the bubble and get donkey punched in the first round.


 :jerk:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: CatMission on February 25, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
Don't forget that if we win tomorrow, we may send Mizzou into a free-fall as they finish @SLTH and UK at Paige Arena.  If we finish 2-1 and pick up a win in the Dr Pepper, I think we would end up a 7, maybe in a 6 depending on what else happens around us.

 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: skycat on February 25, 2011, 06:01:06 PM
A few brackets have us as a 7 seed:

http://kstateupdate.com/kansas-state-basketball/statseed-update/statsheet-projects-kansas-state-as-ncaa-tournament-seven-seed-02-25-2011

http://realtimerpi.com/bracketology/bracketology_Men.html

http://www.thesportsbank.net/illinois-illini/tsbs-bracketology-projecting-the-2011-ncaa-tournament-21811/
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: CHONGS on February 25, 2011, 06:06:12 PM
This would put us second in the north then?  Does that mean we play the 3rd from the south :dunno:
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2011, 07:39:11 PM
This would put us second in the north then?  Does that mean we play the 3rd from the south :dunno:

Come on. Everyone knows 2nd in the north plays FIFTH in the south.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 25, 2011, 08:34:39 PM
A few brackets have us as a 7 seed:

http://kstateupdate.com/kansas-state-basketball/statseed-update/statsheet-projects-kansas-state-as-ncaa-tournament-seven-seed-02-25-2011

http://realtimerpi.com/bracketology/bracketology_Men.html

http://www.thesportsbank.net/illinois-illini/tsbs-bracketology-projecting-the-2011-ncaa-tournament-21811/

I enjoyed dreaming about these turning into reality. Remember how much the Big East sucked in the tournament last year? Would love to play Pitt as a 2 seed.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: nicname on February 25, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
http://kstateupdate.com/kansas-state-basketball/statseed-update/latest


StatSeed is StatSheet's postseason projections for all of Division I, including the NCAA Tournament, National Invitation Tournament (NIT), College Basketball Invitational (CBI), and the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament (CIT). Read more about how StatSeed is calculated.

StatSheet is now projecting Kansas State as a seven seed in the NCAA Tournament. The Wildcats are unranked in the AP Poll and sit at #25 in the RPI with a 19-9 overall record and a 7-6 record in the Big 12.

Over the last four games, Kansas State got a quality win against AP #3 Kansas and wins against Nebraska and Oklahoma but also struggled with a loss against RPI #85 Colorado.

Kansas State struggles against strong competition, with an 8-9 record against the RPI Top 100 that includes a 1-6 record against the RPI Top 50 and a 1-5 record against AP ranked teams. The Wildcats have a single quality win against AP #3 Kansas with no bad losses at all.

The last four teams into the NCAA Tournament with at-large bids are Oklahoma State (16-11, 4-9 Big 12, #RPI 54), Michigan (17-12, 7-9 Big Ten, #RPI 63), Florida State (19-8, 9-4 ACC, #RPI 52), and Southern Miss (21-6, 9-4 C-USA, #RPI 42).

The first four teams out are Butler (20-9, 12-5 Horizon, RPI #45), California (15-13, 8-8 Pac 10, RPI #66), Clemson (18-9, 7-6 ACC, RPI #65), and Colorado State (18-9, 8-5 Mountain West, RPI #44).

The next four out are Marshall (19-9, 7-6 C-USA, #RPI 55), Miami (FL) (17-11, 5-8 ACC, #RPI 69), Virginia Tech (18-8, 8-5 ACC, #RPI 67), and Wichita State (23-6, 14-3 Missouri Valley, #RPI 50).

Regional 1
#1   Duke
#2   Brigham Young
#3   Arizona
#4   Connecticut
#5   Louisville
#6   Kentucky
#7   George Mason
#8   Cincinnati
#9   Illinois
#10   UAB
#11   Boston College
#12   Cleveland State
#13   Belmont
#14   CofC
#15   Bucknell
#16   Coastal Carolina
Regional 2
#1   Kansas
#2   Purdue
#3   Florida
#4   North Carolina
#5   Vanderbilt
#6   Missouri
#7   Kansas State
#8   UNLV
#9   Michigan State
#10   Georgia
#11   Marquette
#12   Florida State
#13   Harvard
#14   Kent State
#15   Fairfield
#16   Florida Atlantic
Regional 3
#1   Ohio State
#2   San Diego State
#3   Georgetown
#4   Syracuse
#5   Villanova
#6   St. John's
#7   Tennessee
#8   Temple
#9   Old Dominion
#10   Minnesota
#11   Memphis
#12   Michigan
#13   Missouri State
#14   Oakland
#15   Long Beach State
#16   Montana
Regional 4
#1   Pittsburgh
#2   Texas
#3   Notre Dame
#4   Wisconsin
#5   West Virginia
#6   Texas A&M
#7   Xavier
#8   Utah State
#9   Washington
#10   UCLA
#11   Penn State
#12   Oklahoma State
#13   Saint Mary's
#14   Vermont
#15   Long Island
#16   Murray State

Nicname thinks our ceiling is a 4 seed, floor is still not making the tourney.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: nicname on February 25, 2011, 10:30:12 PM
Nicname also thinks the most likely seed is a 6.  Which would be fine with me. 
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: sys on February 25, 2011, 10:31:50 PM
i wouldn't mind a 6 seed, if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: nicname on February 25, 2011, 10:34:21 PM
Oh, and we will beat MU tomorrow.  The only question is by how much.  It's gonna be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: SdK on February 25, 2011, 10:41:05 PM
http://kstateupdate.com/kansas-state-basketball/statseed-update/latest


StatSeed is StatSheet's postseason projections for all of Division I, including the NCAA Tournament, National Invitation Tournament (NIT), College Basketball Invitational (CBI), and the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament (CIT). Read more about how StatSeed is calculated.

StatSheet is now projecting Kansas State as a seven seed in the NCAA Tournament. The Wildcats are unranked in the AP Poll and sit at #25 in the RPI with a 19-9 overall record and a 7-6 record in the Big 12.

Over the last four games, Kansas State got a quality win against AP #3 Kansas and wins against Nebraska and Oklahoma but also struggled with a loss against RPI #85 Colorado.

Kansas State struggles against strong competition, with an 8-9 record against the RPI Top 100 that includes a 1-6 record against the RPI Top 50 and a 1-5 record against AP ranked teams. The Wildcats have a single quality win against AP #3 Kansas with no bad losses at all.

The last four teams into the NCAA Tournament with at-large bids are Oklahoma State (16-11, 4-9 Big 12, #RPI 54), Michigan (17-12, 7-9 Big Ten, #RPI 63), Florida State (19-8, 9-4 ACC, #RPI 52), and Southern Miss (21-6, 9-4 C-USA, #RPI 42).

The first four teams out are Butler (20-9, 12-5 Horizon, RPI #45), California (15-13, 8-8 Pac 10, RPI #66), Clemson (18-9, 7-6 ACC, RPI #65), and Colorado State (18-9, 8-5 Mountain West, RPI #44).

The next four out are Marshall (19-9, 7-6 C-USA, #RPI 55), Miami (FL) (17-11, 5-8 ACC, #RPI 69), Virginia Tech (18-8, 8-5 ACC, #RPI 67), and Wichita State (23-6, 14-3 Missouri Valley, #RPI 50).

Regional 1
#1   Duke
#2   Brigham Young
#3   Arizona
#4   Connecticut
#5   Louisville
#6   Kentucky
#7   George Mason
#8   Cincinnati
#9   Illinois
#10   UAB
#11   Boston College
#12   Cleveland State
#13   Belmont
#14   CofC
#15   Bucknell
#16   Coastal Carolina
Regional 2
#1   Kansas
#2   Purdue
#3   Florida
#4   North Carolina
#5   Vanderbilt
#6   Missouri
#7   Kansas State
#8   UNLV
#9   Michigan State
#10   Georgia
#11   Marquette
#12   Florida State
#13   Harvard
#14   Kent State
#15   Fairfield
#16   Florida Atlantic
Regional 3
#1   Ohio State
#2   San Diego State
#3   Georgetown
#4   Syracuse
#5   Villanova
#6   St. John's
#7   Tennessee
#8   Temple
#9   Old Dominion
#10   Minnesota
#11   Memphis
#12   Michigan
#13   Missouri State
#14   Oakland
#15   Long Beach State
#16   Montana
Regional 4
#1   Pittsburgh
#2   Texas
#3   Notre Dame
#4   Wisconsin
#5   West Virginia
#6   Texas A&M
#7   Xavier
#8   Utah State
#9   Washington
#10   UCLA
#11   Penn State
#12   Oklahoma State
#13   Saint Mary's
#14   Vermont
#15   Long Island
#16   Murray State

Nicname thinks our ceiling is a 4 seed, floor is still not making the tourney.


This bracket also has OSU getting in...

Also why are KU, KSU, and MU all in the same region?
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: nicname on February 25, 2011, 10:48:50 PM
I think it is just an S-Curve based on stats, so the actual pairings won't match-up because it doesn't take into account those rules.  Still good to see the Cats on the 7 line, that is teams #25-28 right there, with the 6 line well within reach.  BTW, the current KSU team is better than a 6 or 7 line.  Cats are playing like a 4-5 line team now IMO.

Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Havs on February 25, 2011, 11:48:39 PM
Missouri won by 6 in Ames; Kansas State by 1.

Missouri 69 Kansas State 64
Title: Re: if ksu beats mizzou
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 25, 2011, 11:49:10 PM
With a win tommorrow..... i think we are a solid 8 seed.    Definately in the 8/9 game.   We still need to do more to get to that 7 seed, but with a win tommorrow, we distance ourselves from a possible 10 on the seed line

At 9-7 our chances of getting the 4 seed are strong in conf tourney.   A win over Mizzou, and Mu would have to beat Ku and win in Lincoln to get to 10 wins (we are 4 seed over them if we both end at 9-7)

Win tommorrow and get to the semis of the B12 conf tourney..... and a 7 seed is a very realistic possibility. (I am assuming we lose to UT beat Isu)