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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: SkinnyBenny on February 21, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
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was at the OU game. What gives with that guy?
(Would take back.)
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JFC, this still hurts.
Has tweeted lately about no longer being with the girl. Could be a game changer? :dunno:
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I think these kids, especially those as physically gifted as Wally is, cruise through their youth athletic careers and never have to work for much. Then they get to a point where they are challenged. Some man up, meet the challenge head on, and proceed in their development. Others choose to quit. It's a character issue. (Would take back, too.)
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Sad story, really needs to get his life together.....wasting a talent but taking care of his mental health should be #1.
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I'm sure everyone remembers seeing Spurlock at games after he quit. This is really no different.
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I'm sure everyone remembers seeing Spurlock at games after he quit. This is really no different.
It's fresh. Raw. Worse.
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I'm sure everyone remembers seeing Spurlock at games after he quit. This is really no different.
That was just him going grassroots in driving up support for his Cincy mayoral campaign.
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Hayden came back to games too after he quit.
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Brandon Harold came back to games after he quit (and later, back to the team)
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Hayden came back to games too after he quit.
I remember an article stating that he wanted to come, but didn't have tickets.
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One could argue that he is the team's biggest fan.
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Brandon Harold came back to games after he quit (and later, back to the team)
I like this example best.
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only want him back if he gets his head straight.
for all his potential and athleticism, he was more of a liability than an asset this year..
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...is that the girl?
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God i love crowd shots.
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I gotta admit, I don't think I could 1. quit on a team like that, then 2. come back around and watch that team from the stands. I guess the only reason he doesn't get heckled is because everyone secretly hopes he'll come back?
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Winners never quit, quitters never win Wally. :nono:
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There is a doberman behind those eyes. Too bad his balls are in some whore's pocket.
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There's a thread at tardville where a guy says he keeps seeing Wally around campus pal'ing it up with the team. I'd like to see him come back next year but if he doesn't I could forget about him really quickly/easily.
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Look at those eyes. He yearns to be back. It hurts him more than it hurts us.
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If this turns into a Ross and Rachel thing, then it will be impossible for our team to not be pegged as the most melodramatic team of all time.
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If this turns into a Ross and Rachel thing, then it will be impossible for our team to not be pegged as the most melodramatic team of all time.
Amazing post.
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...is that the girl?
not sure but look at her eyes.. she has the look of a psycho.. i'm scared of her just from looking at the picture. :ohno:
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I saw him with a huge fatty at AJ's (on poyntz, not the shitty late night one on 11th)
:ck:
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I saw him with a huge fatty at AJ's (on poyntz, not the shitty late night one on 11th)
:ck:
Saw him with two very attractive young women at the Rec a few days ago. Seemed to be enjoying the crap out of Manhattan.
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...is that the girl?
mustache dude, lower right looks pretty well angered up.
(PS. Someone tell Wally it was a blackout game)
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Would hate to sit directly behind Wally. Wouldn't be able to see crap.
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Would hate to sit directly behind Wally. Wouldn't be able to see cac.
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There's a thread at tardville where a guy says he keeps seeing Wally around campus pal'ing it up with the team. I'd like to see him come back next year but if he doesn't I could forget about him really quickly/easily.
Is "tardville" GPC or Phog? I'm having a hard time keeping that straight.
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Is "tardville" GPC or Phog?
yes.
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...is that the girl?
How many shirt tucks do you think told him, "Hey Wally, we could really use you back"? Bet a crap load.
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...is that the girl?
mustache dude, lower right looks pretty well angered up.
(PS. Someone tell Wally it was a blackout game)
Wally looks like he's barely treading water in a vortex of psychosis (angry dude, psych biatch to his right, goofy woman in center). Hang in there, Wally!
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His girlfriend looks crazy.
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Wall-E was spotted at Tubby's dance side after the game. As he was leaving the bar a kid about half his size said something to him that didnt go over very well. Wall-E picks the kid up(under the armpits grab) and brings him to his eye level then drops the guy. Dood was shaking afterwards he was so scared.
Could Wall-E be losing his softside?:crossfingers:
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I hate seeing guys with huge upside looking so sad all the time. I also hate when they quit and tweet about their love of the team, and seem to like the town they are in. I really just don't understand and I want to Wally. I really effing want to understand.
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Why do so many people want Wally back? He sucks. Sure, it would be helpful to have depth this year, but I would rather take a chance on some 3 star recruit next year than know we are getting Wally Judge (shitty player) back.
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Why do so many people want Wally back? He sucks. Sure, it would be helpful to have depth this year, but I would rather take a chance on some 3 star recruit next year than know we are getting Wally Judge (shitty player) back.
People love a success story. Redemption. He's clearly fallen on trouble times and he's just so rough ridin' adorable. If he is going to turn it around, people would rather he did that here than go somewhere else and do it. He's a great athlete that could develop into something great. If he loves the team, loves manhattan, has lost his soft side. I'll take him back, even if it's only in a Luis Colon capacity.
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Why do so many people want Wally back? He sucks. Sure, it would be helpful to have depth this year, but I would rather take a chance on some 3 star recruit next year than know we are getting Wally Judge (shitty player) back.
People love a success story. Redemption. He's clearly fallen on trouble times and he's just so rough ridin' adorable. If he is going to turn it around, people would rather he did that here than go somewhere else and do it. He's a great athlete that could develop into something great. If he loves the team, loves manhattan, has lost his soft side. I'll take him back, even if it's only in a Luis Colon capacity.
If he wants to come back and walk on, I am fine with that. I'm not sure what you have seen from Judge that indicates he will ever be as good as Colon.
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Wall-E was spotted at Tubby's dance side after the game. As he was leaving the bar a kid about half his size said something to him that didnt go over very well. Wall-E picks the kid up(under the armpits grab) and brings him to his eye level then drops the guy. Dood was shaking afterwards he was so scared.
Could Wall-E be losing his softside?:crossfingers:
Picking on someone half his size? Sounds like a pussy to me.
Have fun watching JHR dunk on bitches*, wally.
*division 1 basketball players, not skuzzbags at "tubby's dance side".
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
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curt.
curt gives me hope. I dont want to be wallys U conn.
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
:surprised:
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He's a great athlete.
he's really not. he's fine, has a nice body, good hands, passes well, etc. but he's nothing more than an ordinary high-major pf athlete.
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...is that the girl?
No, this is some new girl. Was broken up with the other(crazy) one before the game.
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He's a great athlete.
he's really not. he's fine, has a nice body, good hands, passes well, etc. but he's nothing more than an ordinary high-major pf athlete.
I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability. Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.
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I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability. Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.
thanks, chum1. i think when i say that he's not a great athlete, i'm usually talking about him not being particularly strong, fast, agile or bouncy compared to other high-major power forwards. i might also be talking about body control and balance.
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
what the hell is that about?
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As official JYC TC, he realized that the cancer wasn't terminal after the defeat on KU and returned to further infect the team. Hey now carries a lock of pullen's beard with him.
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I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability. Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.
thanks, chum1. i think when i say that he's not a great athlete, i'm usually talking about him not being particularly strong, fast, agile or bouncy compared to other high-major power forwards. i might also be talking about body control and balance.
No one has it all. But you're wrong on most of those counts according to NBA draft analysts. They don't rate him highly based on skill.
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
what the hell is that about?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0
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Someone needs to call him out over this. On Twitter.
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
what the hell is that about?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0
I'm not sure I agree with this. It's not like Wally was making of JHR's work ethic, game, or anything to do with basketball. JHR is not exempt for being impersonated because he is on the team and Wally is not.
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He's a great athlete.
he's really not. he's fine, has a nice body, good hands, passes well, etc. but he's nothing more than an ordinary high-major pf athlete.
ordinary high-major athlete? What does that even mean? If you want to tell me he is an ordinary basketball player, fine. You want to tell me he will never be a great baller, fine. I don't know you can say he is not a great athlete though. I don't care what you amount to in college, if you have such nice highlight videos, you are a great athlete. Not necessarily a great basketball player though.
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
what the hell is that about?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0
meh. would still take back
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JHR is not exempt for being impersonated because he is on the team and Wally is not.
No, but it definitely makes Wally more of a bitch than if he'd done it while still on the team.
I'm not entirely sure how Wally could be more of a bitch than he was when he was on the team, but it seems he's managed quite nicely.
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JHR is not exempt for being impersonated because he is on the team and Wally is not.
No, but it definitely makes Wally more of a bitch than if he'd done it while still on the team.
I'm not entirely sure how Wally could be more of a bitch than he was when he was on the team, but it seems he's managed quite nicely.
Maybe he was trying to do JHR a favor...stir up his rep a bit for having ladies over, two in fact. I think this is the most logical explanation. Bravo Wally, you good samaritan!!!
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this is one of those rare times i agree with rusty.
wally sucks. do not want back.
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
what the hell is that about?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0
meh. would still take back
Wally can go eff himself. Nothing would make me happier than seeing JO dunk on Wally's bitch ass at Washburn next year.
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this is one of those rare times i agree with rusty.
wally sucks. do not want back.
you probably wish we had lou and energy back
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seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.
He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.
Something seems to have touched a nerver.
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I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability. Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.
thanks, chum1. i think when i say that he's not a great athlete, i'm usually talking about him not being particularly strong, fast, agile or bouncy compared to other high-major power forwards. i might also be talking about body control and balance.
I'm actually at a loss trying to think of another high-major power forward who I've seen bounce higher.
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this is one of those rare times i agree with rusty.
wally sucks. do not want back.
you probably wish we had lou and energy back
i only pray to the heavens that jake wins 6 more games or however many it is he needs to pass those losers.
beyond embarrassing having those two as our wpoat
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No one has it all. But you're wrong on most of those counts according to NBA draft analysts. They don't rate him highly based on skill.
i don't think any nba draft analysts currently rate him highly. some people looked at him in high school and aau and thought that he was a better athlete than he is. after playing a year and a half of college bball, it became apparent that he lacks either the strength, the balance or the bounce to do anything overly athletic in traffic.
jumping off one foot with a ten foot warmup run is a pretty useless skill for a 6'8" pf.
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No one has it all. But you're wrong on most of those counts according to NBA draft analysts. They don't rate him highly based on skill.
i don't think any nba draft analysts currently rate him highly. some people looked at him in high school and aau and thought that he was a better athlete than he is. after playing a year and a half of college bball, it became apparent that he lacks either the strength, the balance or the bounce to do anything overly athletic in traffic.
jumping off one foot with a ten foot warmup run is a pretty useless skill for a 6'8" pf.
I think he's dropped in the rankings more because of his inability to acquire skills at a normal rate. They knew what they were dealing with physically from the beginning and there are plenty of weak, skinny players in the NBA. Back to the colloquial use of the word "athleticism," though:
Judge's NBA potential, much like his production was as a freshman, is tied to his jaw-dropping athleticism. Blessed with outstanding leaping ability, long arms, and solid quickness, Judge is an NBA caliber athlete, and then some.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Wally-Judge-5686/
As an aside, it seems like some of the point guard talk similarly loses something in translation between those who follow the NBA and those who don't.
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there are plenty of weak, skinny players in the NBA.
maybe it isn't an issue of strength? i offered that up as one possibility, but i don't think it is the most logical explanation for the gap between judge's athleticism hype and his ability to make athletic plays.
regardless of the underlying reason, i don't see how anyone that watched judge play a fair bit could consider him outstandingly athletic for a high-major college basketball player. the three big 12 pfs in recent memory that stand out to me as way above average athletes are blake griffin, juan pattillo and perry jones. in each of their cases, i don't think you had to watch them play for more than a half before you'd see them do something extraordinarily athletic. in a year and a half, i never saw judge do anything extraordinarily athletic.
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there are plenty of weak, skinny players in the NBA.
maybe it isn't an issue of strength? i offered that up as one possibility, but i don't think it is the most logical explanation for the gap between judge's athleticism hype and his ability to make athletic plays.
regardless of the underlying reason, i don't see how anyone that watched judge play a fair bit could consider him outstandingly athletic for a high-major college basketball player. the three big 12 pfs in recent memory that stand out to me as way above average athletes are blake griffin, juan pattillo and perry jones. in each of their cases, i don't think you had to watch them play for more than a half before you'd see them do something extraordinarily athletic. in a year and a half, i never saw judge do anything extraordinarily athletic.
Cannot disagree with most of this but his athleticism has been held back by a stunning lack of confidence and PT. Also he is not anywhere near 6'8".
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Wally sucked while here and I don't know why people defend him. If we are Wally's UConn, good for him for finding success wherever he goes. He clearly will not find it here. He is not a player who is mentally strong enough to work under Frank. I don't want him back, as I think his pussy attitudes undercut an overall mentally strong team.
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i don't see how anyone that watched judge play a fair bit could consider him outstandingly athletic for a high-major college basketball player.
It's because, given the way these people are using the word "athletic," athleticism isn't measured on the court. It's measured in units like inches and seconds. For you, it seems more like "good athlete" simply means good basketball player. In that case, he's not a good athlete trivially because he's not a good basketball player, right?
There are also further distinctions to make. You can imagine someone with more basketball ability than anyone else in the world (whatever that is) simply not being interested in playing basketball. You can shove him out on the court, but if he doesn't try due to lack of interest, he just runs up and down and doesn't appear to be a good basketball player and maybe isn't one. Isn't something like this the best explanation for Judge? He quit. How much interest can he have?
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The Wally Judge Challenge: If he plays again, can he go for more than 1 minute 37 seconds without having 2 fouls??
But at this time Wally is a full blown FP/TC and FRANKly, I hope he walked in one day and found his locker clean out with a note that mentions something about a Waffle House and crossing the Rubicon.
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I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?
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I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability. Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.
thanks, chum1. i think when i say that he's not a great athlete, i'm usually talking about him not being particularly strong, fast, agile or bouncy compared to other high-major power forwards. i might also be talking about body control and balance.
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Is Wally big (tall) enough to play the 4 in the NBA? Not referring to what kstatesports lists him as.
yeah, he has a great body.
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:lol:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=6372.0#quickreply
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I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?
seems more like frustration that someone who was tabbed as having a lot of potential was kind of a huge bust. not sure butthurt is the right description for that.
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I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?
I just get pissed when K-State fans say they want a player who is no better than just about any 3* JuCo transfer to come back. I don't want a player who we all know is shitty eating up a scholarship for 2 more years.
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I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?
I just get pissed when K-State fans say they want a player who is no better than just about any 3* JuCo transfer to come back. I don't want a player who we all know is cacty eating up a scholarship for 2 more years.
I'd liked to have seen him get some time to develop like JHR has and if he sucks, Frank could "buy in or quit" him. No biggie now but he could have provided some pretty high end depth...if he was willing to be a man and not let some girl ruin his career.
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I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?
I just get pissed when K-State fans say they want a player who is no better than just about any 3* JuCo transfer to come back. I don't want a player who we all know is cacty eating up a scholarship for 2 more years.
I'd liked to have seen him get some time to develop like JHR has and if he sucks, Frank could "buy in or quit" him.
That is exactly what happened. Wally was given much more PT than JHR and did a lot less developing, so Frank "buy in or quit" him.
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Power struggle for Wally.
Bro v Ho.
Ho won.
Now she is gone. I think this is being over looked/discounted way too much here.
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Sounds to me like he is just having The Semester of Wally!
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This was supposed to be the semester of Wally
so the ho equals the invitation on the stairs then :dunno:
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eff yes.
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This was supposed to be the semester of Wally
so the ho equals the envelope on the stairs then :dunno:
No clue what you are talking about. :dunno:
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This was supposed to be the semester of Wally
so the ho equals the envelope on the stairs then :dunno:
No clue what you are talking about. :dunno:
GTFO
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This was supposed to be the semester of Wally
so the ho equals the envelope on the stairs then :dunno:
No clue what you are talking about. :dunno:
the gsc/hboat* that's who we are talking about.
*greatest sitcom character/human being of all times
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This was supposed to be the semester of Wally
so the ho equals the envelope on the stairs then :dunno:
No clue what you are talking about. :dunno:
the gsc/hboat* that's who we are talking about.
*greatest sitcom character/human being of all times
No one can touch J-Dub in terms of HGCIQ
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You should take a look at the size of my wallet and try to maintain that point of view, sir. Just TRY.
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double quarter pounder?? triple?? quad baconator?? what are we talking about here :ck:
btw, "please, a little respect here, for I am Costanza j-dub the lord of the idiots"
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has a nice body.
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Is Wally big (tall) enough to play the 4 in the NBA? Not referring to what kstatesports lists him as.
he has a great body.
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:lol:
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:ck:
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It's because, given the way these people are using the word "athletic," athleticism isn't measured on the court. It's measured in units like inches and seconds. For you, it seems more like "good athlete" simply means good basketball player. In that case, he's not a good athlete trivially because he's not a good basketball player, right?
no. good bbll player isn't the same as good athlete, despite probable positive correlations. almeida for example, i think is a good bball player, but i do not consider him a very good athlete. in the opposite direction, pattillo was a great athlete, but a mediocre bball player.
i do argue that displayed athleticism over a year and half of playing bball is a better measure of bball athleticism than how high you can jump off one foot after running in from the three point line on an empty court.
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i'm holding on to my long held position that wally "bulked up" too much in an attempt to "bang down low" and it threw off his balance and slowed him down. he should've "jamar'd it" instead.
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i'm holding on to my long held position that wally "bulked up" too much in an attempt to "bang down low" and it threw off his balance and slowed him down. he should've "jamar'd it" instead.
If Wally could learn the Lurch, he would be nearly unstoppable.
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It's because, given the way these people are using the word "athletic," athleticism isn't measured on the court. It's measured in units like inches and seconds. For you, it seems more like "good athlete" simply means good basketball player. In that case, he's not a good athlete trivially because he's not a good basketball player, right?
no. good bbll player isn't the same as good athlete, despite probable positive correlations. almeida for example, i think is a good bball player, but i do not consider him a very good athlete. in the opposite direction, pattillo was a great athlete, but a mediocre bball player.
i do argue that displayed athleticism over a year and half of playing bball is a better measure of bball athleticism than how high you can jump off one foot after running in from the three point line on an empty court.
but if you have observational evidence, there's no real need to make the distinction. if a guy gets it done, it doesn't matter how. on the other hand, if you're trying to project how someone will do at the "next level" with no observational evidence at that next level, you want the positive correlation that comes with the things like jumping high and running fast. so, there's a need to describe that stuff and "athleticism" can work for that.
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I don't see Frank letting him back in:
"The easy thing to do in anything you do is quit. When things are hard, it's easy to quit. That's what everyone does in today's society. You've got a job to do and you don't like what's going on -- just quit. The hard thing to do is continue to believe in your people and stay the course. That's what these kids have done." Frank Martin
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I don't see Frank letting him back in:
"The easy thing to do in anything you do is quit. When things are hard, it's easy to quit. That's what everyone does in today's society. You've got a job to do and you don't like what's going on -- just quit. The hard thing to do is continue to believe in your people and stay the course. That's what these kids have done." Frank Martin
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The more we win, the more Wally ain't coming back.
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I don't see Frank letting him back in:
"The easy thing to do in anything you do is quit. When things are hard, it's easy to quit. That's what everyone does in today's society. You've got a job to do and you don't like what's going on -- just quit. The hard thing to do is continue to believe in your people and stay the course. That's what these kids have done." Frank Martin
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Wally's situation is different than Freddy's situation is different from Dom's situation. Not sure why this is so difficult for everyone.
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I don't see Frank letting him back in:
"The easy thing to do in anything you do is quit. When things are hard, it's easy to quit. That's what everyone does in today's society. You've got a job to do and you don't like what's going on -- just quit. The hard thing to do is continue to believe in your people and stay the course. That's what these kids have done." Frank Martin
:surprised:
The more we win, the more Wally ain't coming back.
The more our winning has to do with Curt, the more Wally is coming back.
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I don't see Frank letting him back in:
"The easy thing to do in anything you do is quit. When things are hard, it's easy to quit. That's what everyone does in today's society. You've got a job to do and you don't like what's going on -- just quit. The hard thing to do is continue to believe in your people and stay the course. That's what these kids have done." Frank Martin
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The more we win, the more Wally ain't coming back.
The more our winning has to do with Curt, the more Wally is coming back.
The more poison we can shove down that cvnt's throat the more Wally is coming back.
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I think these kids, especially those as physically gifted as Wally is, cruise through their youth athletic careers and never have to work for much. Then they get to a point where they are challenged. Some man up, meet the challenge head on, and proceed in their development. Others choose to quit. It's a character issue. (Would take back, too.)
Couldn't agree more. Great Analyses EMO.
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whatever. quitting is fine in some cases. i'm so sick of frank boulsh*t sometimes.
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whatever. quitting is fine in some cases. i'm so sick of frank boulsh*t sometimes.
Anyone else find it too easy to tell when Fatty is just bored... bored and banned from GPC...
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Saw him again on campus today. Okay, now I'm just getting pissed. Either get back on the team or GTFO of Manhattan. :curse:
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Saw him at the rec yesterday, being shitty as always.
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Saw him at the rec yesterday, being shitty as always.
Wally really owns you.
Just being around, he owns you.
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Owns me at what exactly? Being terrible at life? Sure, yeah. He wins that battle. There are no rumors going around that I'm going to transfer to Washburn.
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whatever. quitting is fine in some cases. i'm so sick of frank boulsh*t sometimes.
Anyone else find it too easy to tell when Fatty is just bored... bored and banned from GPC...
he's not bored. he's taking names on Tigerboard. (http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/missouri-tigers.php?message=8365362).
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Owns me at what exactly? Being terrible at life? Sure, yeah. He wins that battle. There are no rumors going around that I'm going to transfer to Washburn.
Do you think that he posts about seeing you on campus? Nope.
Boom.
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Do you think that he posts about seeing you on campus? Nope.
Boom.
Do I suck enough to be hated by randos on campus? No.
Boom.
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I still would have loved to see what Wally could do facing up more. Oh well.
From all that I've heard I think it's pretty obvious Wally has had some emotional issues likely tied into ADD he's been dealing with. His life will likely continue to be an up and down struggle until he finds the best way for him personally to cope with those issues. That's almost certainly why both him and Frank thought it was best for him to step away from basketball for the time being. The girl thing may have forced the matter a bit and been a part of the issue but no way was it even close to being the biggest problem.
Fatty's right, in some cases, quitting is alright. People need to realize there's probably a lot more going on here.
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I still would have loved to see what Wally could do facing up more. Oh well.
From all that I've heard I think it's pretty obvious Wally has had some emotional issues likely tied into ADD he's been dealing with. His life will likely continue to be an up and down struggle until he finds the best way for him personally to cope with those issues. That's almost certainly why both him and Frank thought it was best for him to step away from basketball for the time being. The girl thing may have forced the matter a bit and been a part of the issue but no way was it even close to being the biggest problem.
Fatty's right, in some cases, quitting is alright. People need to realize there's probably a lot more going on here.
First I have heard of ADD.
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I still would have loved to see what Wally could do facing up more. Oh well.
From all that I've heard I think it's pretty obvious Wally has had some emotional issues likely tied into ADD he's been dealing with. His life will likely continue to be an up and down struggle until he finds the best way for him personally to cope with those issues. That's almost certainly why both him and Frank thought it was best for him to step away from basketball for the time being. The girl thing may have forced the matter a bit and been a part of the issue but no way was it even close to being the biggest problem.
Fatty's right, in some cases, quitting is alright. People need to realize there's probably a lot more going on here.
I think wally is just a pussy.
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I still would have loved to see what Wally could do facing up more. Oh well.
From all that I've heard I think it's pretty obvious Wally has had some emotional issues likely tied into ADD he's been dealing with. His life will likely continue to be an up and down struggle until he finds the best way for him personally to cope with those issues. That's almost certainly why both him and Frank thought it was best for him to step away from basketball for the time being. The girl thing may have forced the matter a bit and been a part of the issue but no way was it even close to being the biggest problem.
Fatty's right, in some cases, quitting is alright. People need to realize there's probably a lot more going on here.
I think wally is just a pussy.
:dubious:
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I still would have loved to see what Wally could do facing up more. Oh well.
From all that I've heard I think it's pretty obvious Wally has had some emotional issues likely tied into ADD he's been dealing with. His life will likely continue to be an up and down struggle until he finds the best way for him personally to cope with those issues. That's almost certainly why both him and Frank thought it was best for him to step away from basketball for the time being. The girl thing may have forced the matter a bit and been a part of the issue but no way was it even close to being the biggest problem.
Fatty's right, in some cases, quitting is alright. People need to realize there's probably a lot more going on here.
I think wally is just a pussy.
Do you think Patton would have paused his assault on the Afrika Corps because he was feeling a little down? eff no.
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I still would have loved to see what Wally could do facing up more. Oh well.
From all that I've heard I think it's pretty obvious Wally has had some emotional issues likely tied into ADD he's been dealing with. His life will likely continue to be an up and down struggle until he finds the best way for him personally to cope with those issues. That's almost certainly why both him and Frank thought it was best for him to step away from basketball for the time being. The girl thing may have forced the matter a bit and been a part of the issue but no way was it even close to being the biggest problem.
Fatty's right, in some cases, quitting is alright. People need to realize there's probably a lot more going on here.
I think wally is just a pussy.
He's horrible at basketball, too.