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Title: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 14, 2011, 11:53:25 PM
eFG% - KSU 62.5%, KU 47%.
TO% - KSU 23.4%, KU 26.4%.
OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%.
FTR - KSU 60.4%, KU 58%.
Pace - 68.
Points per possession - KSU 1.23, KU 1.00.

KU came into the game leading the nation in eFG% at 58.8% and the Cats completely shut them down.  KU's defensive eFG% was #11 at 43.8%.  We took them to school on both ends, it was fun to watch. A joy.

Thank you Jake and Frank, among others.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 14, 2011, 11:54:49 PM
This was basically K-State's "F you kougs" game. I enjoyed it immensely.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: wetwillie on February 14, 2011, 11:59:17 PM
any chance we can get pullens ortg for tonight?
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:02:10 AM
any chance we can get pullens ortg for tonight?

150.6

eFG% of 67.6%
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: _33 on February 15, 2011, 12:03:02 AM
What did that dumbass Pomeroy think the score would be in this game?
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 15, 2011, 12:03:32 AM
Nice to see some Defense match up with Offense.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2011, 12:03:47 AM
any chance we can get pullens ortg for tonight?

150.6

eFG% of 67.6%

 :excited: :emawkid:
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:04:14 AM
What did that dumbass Pomeroy think the score would be in this game?

77-69 Hawks
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: nicname on February 15, 2011, 12:06:27 AM
Wasn't the defense great?  I mean KU is really good at working the ball and getting open shots on the perimeter, but this game KSU was so great at closing out on the 3 pt shooters.  There was only a few times that they got us out of sorts and had open looks.  Luckily they made few of them.  

The offense was nice, but this game was won on defense.  I have long wanted to see the Cats play great defense without fouling (especially halfcourt), and for the first time in a long while they did just that.  A great win, and a great performance buy the Cats.  

The poise, the focus, NO LETUP.  

EMAW.

I'm really, really happy right now, especially after that heartbreaker just two days ago.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:08:59 AM
Wasn't the defense great?  I mean KU is really good at working the ball and getting open shots on the perimeter, but this game KSU was so great at closing out on the 3 pt shooters.  There was only a few times that they got us out of sorts and had open looks.  Luckily they made few of them. 

The offense was nice, but this game was won on defense.  I have long wanted to see the Cats play great defense without fouling (especially halfcourt), and for the first time in a long while they did just that.  A great win, and a great performance buy the Cats. 

The poise, the focus, NO LETUP. 

EMAW.

I'm really, really happy right now, especially after that heartbreaker just two days ago.

Tonight is amazing to be a Cat fan. Simply amazing.

And yes, it was spectacular defense. KU had no answer, none.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 15, 2011, 12:09:56 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the crap out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 15, 2011, 12:12:11 AM
KU missed some big threes. Dodged some bullets there.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: nicname on February 15, 2011, 12:12:29 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the crap out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

Good point Kougs.  It has seemed in the past few games against KU, especially last year when we were the JYCs, that KU still just really dominated us inside on the boards, etc.  KU has been suspect with regards to toughness inside all year and the Cats took full advantage.  I think they really missed Robinson, who I think is a great player.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 15, 2011, 12:13:55 AM
KU missed some big threes. Dodged some bullets there.

It's about rough ridin' time. The basketball gods have owed us on that score for awhile now.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:19:18 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

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OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 15, 2011, 12:21:40 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

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OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%

Saw that, was curious about the raw reb. numbers though.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:22:51 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

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OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%

Saw that, was curious about the raw reb. numbers though.

29-23 Cats.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: sys on February 15, 2011, 12:24:20 AM
this was a game that is going to move some kenpom numbers around a little.

before the game = 45th (.8583), o 76th (107.5), d 33rd (91.9).  can't wait for the update.



on ku's 3pt shooting, to the extent it wasn't luck, i think it was mostly a function of who was shooting.  morningstar and reed were 2-5, the rest of the team 1-10.  that included 6 attempts by morrises, taylor, little & releford.


Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 15, 2011, 12:24:26 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

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OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%

Saw that, was curious about the raw reb. numbers though.

29-23 Cats.

Thanks _. I asked in another thread, but Pullen would be the first Q@ since ___________ to split (or better) at home against KU in his career?
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 15, 2011, 12:26:26 AM
this was a game that is going to move some kenpom numbers around a little.

before the game = 45th (.8583), o 76th (107.5), d 33rd (91.9).  can't wait for the update.



on ku's 3pt shooting, to the extent it wasn't luck, i think it was mostly a function of who was shooting.  morningstar and reed were 2-5, the rest of the team 1-10.  that included 6 attempts by morrises, taylor, little & releford.




Our perimeter D was outstanding tonight. I was surprised Knight didn't comment even more than he did about our excellent rotation to keep the opposite wings from getting open looks on skip passes. KU has absolutely murdered us with that in the past.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:27:20 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

Quote
OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%

Saw that, was curious about the raw reb. numbers though.

29-23 Cats.

Thanks _. I asked in another thread, but Pullen would be the first Q@ since ___________ to split (or better) at home against KU in his career?

Les Craft
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: nicname on February 15, 2011, 12:31:02 AM
this was a game that is going to move some kenpom numbers around a little.

before the game = 45th (.8583), o 76th (107.5), d 33rd (91.9).  can't wait for the update.



on ku's 3pt shooting, to the extent it wasn't luck, i think it was mostly a function of who was shooting.  morningstar and reed were 2-5, the rest of the team 1-10.  that included 6 attempts by morrises, taylor, little & releford.




Our perimeter D was outstanding tonight. I was surprised Knight didn't comment even more than he did about our excellent rotation to keep the opposite wings from getting open looks on skip passes. KU has absolutely murdered us with that in the past.


It really was.  It was great, the rotations and close outs were so precise.  What an effort.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: hemmy on February 15, 2011, 12:31:34 AM
this was a game that is going to move some kenpom numbers around a little.

before the game = 45th (.8583), o 76th (107.5), d 33rd (91.9).  can't wait for the update.



on ku's 3pt shooting, to the extent it wasn't luck, i think it was mostly a function of who was shooting.  morningstar and reed were 2-5, the rest of the team 1-10.  that included 6 attempts by morrises, taylor, little & releford.




Our perimeter D was outstanding tonight. I was surprised Knight didn't comment even more than he did about our excellent rotation to keep the opposite wings from getting open looks on skip passes. KU has absolutely murdered us with that in the past.

Yep, ku has routinely destroyed us on that stuff, as well as moving around screens.

Also, I think we benefited from ku seemingly not having a player who can drive anywhere close to as well as Sherron Collins could.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:33:51 AM
I loved the token pressure we put on, and often it looked like we were going to fall back into our 3-2 or 2-3 zone, but it would turn almost into a match-up zone/switching man as they set their offense. Self never really had an answer.

Also loved how Bill tried to throw out his triangle and 2 against us and we would come down and destroy it.

Frank coached circles around Self tonight, just abused him.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 15, 2011, 12:36:31 AM
Man, we destroyed it so bad I didn't even notice him pull out the Triangle and 2. Who was the other guy he manned up?
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:39:13 AM
Man, we destroyed it so bad I didn't even notice him pull out the Triangle and 2. Who was the other guy he manned up?

In the first half for a possession or two I think Pullen and Kelly.

In the second half I believe Pullen and McGruds. I remember Irving scored on the drive on one possession against it.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: hemmy on February 15, 2011, 12:40:19 AM
That triangle and 2/box and 1 killed us in 2009, Fred Brown was shut down when they went to that :frown:
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: CNS on February 15, 2011, 12:42:58 AM
awesome d.

morris bros combined for 16 points and 3 boards, per stans stats
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2011, 12:44:38 AM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6123307&categoryid=2459792
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: sys on February 15, 2011, 12:46:12 AM
In the second half I believe Pullen and McGruds. I remember Irving scored on the drive on one possession against it.

i didn't notice that they were in a tri+2 on that*.  i was just shocked and lolling at how bad their d was on that poss.  figures that it was a junk d.





* amazing that the greatest coach of time didn't bother to mention it to his viewing public.  he's the greatest though, so it was probably more important to let everyone know again and again that kstate's odds of winning would improve if kstate kept scoring.
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 15, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
I love this thread. This is my first time back to goEMAW since the game, but I can't believe this didn't get more attention.

I think my favorite part of dominating them (besides the katpak on the court afterward) was that Self was forced to call his last timeout with 10 minutes left. Seriously. When has a team EVER done that?
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on February 16, 2011, 12:24:13 AM
awesome d.

morris bros combined for 16 points and 3 boards, per stans stats

When Markieff took that 3, it was over, they had completely lost their focus.

Also enjoyed early in the game when JHR made some turn around gangly bank shot on one of the Morris'. Self's reaction was priceless, basically turned to other coaches and said WTF...
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: ednksu on February 16, 2011, 04:08:51 AM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6123307&categoryid=2459792
Candy bars and Coca-Cola  :love: we should work this into a shirt tuck talking point
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

Quote
OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%

Saw that, was curious about the raw reb. numbers though.

29-23 Cats.

Thanks _. I asked in another thread, but Pullen would be the first Q@ since ___________ to split (or better) at home against KU in his career?

Les Craft

Ron Anderson
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: kougar24 on February 16, 2011, 09:25:36 AM
Seemed like we rebounded the cac out of the ball too, especially defensively, keeping them off the o-glass. Numbers confirm?

Quote
OR% - KSU 45.5%, KU 36.7%

Saw that, was curious about the raw reb. numbers though.

29-23 Cats.

Thanks _. I asked in another thread, but Pullen would be the first Q@ since ___________ to split (or better) at home against KU in his career?

Les Craft

Ron Anderson

(4-year player.)
Title: Re: Domination
Post by: cas4ksu on February 16, 2011, 11:02:35 AM
Important category as well.

FTB% KSU- 1.000  KU- (-987489736.8)