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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/12/2651292/frank-resolve-despite-player-exits.html
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:07:10 PM
Everyone was worked about this piece but it didn't really follow through with it's promise of being that interesting.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 12, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/12/2651292/frank-resolve-despite-player-exits.html

someone smart tell me how to feel about all this.  this season, this game, this article, this staff.  tia
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Post by: pike on February 12, 2011, 11:08:38 PM
Everyone was worked about this piece but it didn't really follow through with it's promise of being that interesting.

Yeah saw some chatter on FB about it. Meh
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 12, 2011, 11:09:52 PM
did not
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:11:54 PM
Oh wow,  Curtis Malone hates us? Yeah we've known that for a few years now dumbass
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Post by: Levi on February 12, 2011, 11:13:25 PM
Frank won by calling Babb back and pissing on the fire.  
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:15:46 PM
Frank won by calling Babb back and pissing on the fire.  

Babb being meaner wouldn't make it more interesting
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Post by: sys on February 12, 2011, 11:16:09 PM
good article.  had some quotes from people that aren't on the athletic department's contact list.  too bad they didn't have anything from judge.
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:17:28 PM
good article.  had some quotes from people that aren't on the athletic department's contact list.  too bad they didn't have anything from judge.

Yeah,  that would have been good.
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Post by: Trim on February 12, 2011, 11:18:07 PM
LOL at Rake and Levi.  

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OH crap THERE'S GONNA BE A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE COMING OUT IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH QUOTES OF PEOPLE THAT HATE FRANK LOL!!!!!

Like you guys, but jfc who gives a crap?  McG shoots .2 seconds earlier and we're all  :emawkid: for the next 36 hours and nobody knows who the eff Baab is.  BTW, I think he's that shooter michigancat wanted us to sign.
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Post by: CNS on February 12, 2011, 11:18:29 PM
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Malone once helped point D.C.-area recruits, including Judge and Beasley, to Manhattan. Now, Malone says, that regional pipeline has gone dry because prospects have noticed that some D.C. players aren’t staying at K-State.

“Most of the kids will have a question: Why did they leave?” Malone says. “Frank’s just got to get some basketball players with basketball IQs to come in.”

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/12/2651292/frank-resolve-despite-player-exits.html#ixzz1DoTariAS
He hates us more than I thought.
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Post by: Levi on February 12, 2011, 11:18:36 PM
Frank won by calling Babb back and pissing on the fire.  

Babb being meaner wouldn't make it more interesting

Frank being meaner and yelling at Babb would have. Instead his wife calmed him down and we got 1,200 words worth of Z z z z z .
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:20:22 PM
Malone hates us for agent fiasco which wasn't. our fault anyway. Anything else Malone says is just filler.
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:22:38 PM
I was sold a bill of goods!  :dubious:
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Post by: Levi on February 12, 2011, 11:27:10 PM
LOL at Rake and Levi.  

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OH cac THERE'S GONNA BE A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE COMING OUT IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH QUOTES OF PEOPLE THAT HATE FRANK LOL!!!!!

Like you guys, but jfc who gives a cac?  McG shoots .2 seconds earlier and we're all  :emawkid: for the next 36 hours and nobody knows who the eff Baab is.  BTW, I think he's that shooter michigancat wanted us to sign.

I was just excited because jrake was. I like good newspaper stories, too. That wasn't one. Kellis' game story tomorrow will be 10x more devastating.
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Post by: 0.42 on February 12, 2011, 11:30:35 PM
rake has been killing us on twitter.
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:33:18 PM
rake has been killing us on twitter.

He was excited about this piece having some balls to it but I'm assuming he must not have seen it prior to making those prognostications.
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Post by: sys on February 12, 2011, 11:39:35 PM
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I feel for my #kstate family. Keep working, u will get there is all I can say.I'll do everything I can to recruit #kstate down here.

he should have talked to pastrana.
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Post by: CNS on February 12, 2011, 11:40:20 PM
If nothing else, it makes the Malone hate 100% public so that all the GPC tards can stop talking about the DC Pipeline.

Also, it makes the Freddy thing seem much less of an dramatic thing than what most the media was making it.

Almost seems anti-ballsy. :dunno:
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Post by: Trim on February 12, 2011, 11:41:19 PM
rake has been killing us on twitter.

He was excited about this piece having some balls to it but I'm assuming he must not have seen it prior to making those prognostications.

Newspaper guys just get hard-ons for supposed newspaper drama.
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:42:14 PM
Yeah, the Asprilla stuff was nice to hear. Was good to hear from biggipfan as well.
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:43:47 PM
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I feel for my #kstate family. Keep working, u will get there is all I can say.I'll do everything I can to recruit #kstate down here.

he should have talked to pastrana.

Could the guy be more amazing?  Did you see him talking up our ISU win last week?  Wow.
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Post by: sys on February 12, 2011, 11:45:07 PM
Yeah, the Asprilla stuff was nice to hear. Was good to hear from biggipfan as well.

was really nice to hear asprilla.  thoughts & prayers.

Could the guy be more amazing?  Did you see him talking up our ISU win last week?  Wow.

i love him.
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Post by: fatty fat fat on February 12, 2011, 11:46:17 PM
rake is a dorky chiefs fan. he should stop the sniping.
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Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2011, 11:48:29 PM
Who is Kent Babb and why did Frank call him?
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Post by: ednksu on February 12, 2011, 11:49:28 PM
not sure how I feel about that article.
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Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
Who is Kent Babb and why did Frank call him?

Yet another gaping hole left unfilled in this long ass piece of crap
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Post by: Trim on February 12, 2011, 11:52:32 PM
Who is Kent Babb and why did Frank call him?

Chris' dad.
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2011, 11:54:20 PM
Malone hates us for agent fiasco which wasn't. our fault anyway. Anything else Malone says is just filler.

Dealt with Joel Bell on a professional basis when I lived in Boston.  Biggest bad person I have ever associated with.  He's one of those guys who flaunts his "money and power" around while having no idea how small timey he is.  I worked with him the summer Mike fired his ass.  He went around talking big crap about having "a top three draft pick."  It was amazing how humbled he was after he was fired
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Post by: CNS on February 12, 2011, 11:56:13 PM
Malone hates us for agent fiasco which wasn't. our fault anyway. Anything else Malone says is just filler.

Dealt with Joel Bell on a professional basis when I lived in Boston.  Biggest bad person I have ever associated with.  He's one of those guys who flaunts his "money and power" around while having no idea how small timey he is.  I worked with him the summer Mike fired his ass.  He went around talking big crap about having "a top three draft pick."  It was amazing how humbled he was after he was fired

Did he "sponsor" malone's team, or something like that, and was therefore to get first pick of the kids?  Never did hear the depth on this one.
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Post by: sys on February 12, 2011, 11:56:44 PM
Dealt with Joel Bell on a professional basis when I lived in Boston.  Biggest bad person I have ever associated with.  He's one of those guys who flaunts his "money and power" around while having no idea how small timey he is.  I worked with him the summer Mike fired his ass.  He went around talking big crap about having "a top three draft pick."  It was amazing how humbled he was after he was fired

babb's father should write this story.
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Post by: fatty fat fat on February 12, 2011, 11:56:54 PM
freddy is a good son.
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Post by: Trim on February 12, 2011, 11:58:54 PM
Dealt with Joel Bell on a professional basis when I lived in Boston.  Biggest bad person I have ever associated with.  He's one of those guys who flaunts his "money and power" around while having no idea how small timey he is.  I worked with him the summer Mike fired his ass.  He went around talking big crap about having "a top three draft pick."  It was amazing how humbled he was after he was fired

babb's father should write this story.

Or we should at least re-enact it at a pak.  I'll be Beas, Gooch can be Bell, and MIR can PI the crap out of Gooch/Bell when I/Beas fire his ass.
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Post by: steve dave on February 13, 2011, 12:00:18 AM
I'll play KState who gets crap on even though I held up my end of the deal.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 13, 2011, 12:11:11 AM
I still don't get how the agent stuff relates to KSU/Frank. Can someone explain? pm if necessary.
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 13, 2011, 12:14:29 AM
Malone hates us for agent fiasco which wasn't. our fault anyway. Anything else Malone says is just filler.

Dealt with Joel Bell on a professional basis when I lived in Boston.  Biggest bad person I have ever associated with.  He's one of those guys who flaunts his "money and power" around while having no idea how small timey he is.  I worked with him the summer Mike fired his ass.  He went around talking big crap about having "a top three draft pick."  It was amazing how humbled he was after he was fired

Did he "sponsor" malone's team, or something like that, and was therefore to get first pick of the kids?  Never did hear the depth on this one.

He and Malone are tight.  His son plays on DC Assault, Bell is an bad person helicopter parent who provides money, son gets to play with good players.  DC Assault gets to have an agent involved in their program to show off to players they are recruiting into the program, although I will point out that Bell isn't flaunted out there like a show dog, but everyone knows who he is.
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 13, 2011, 12:17:32 AM
I still don't get how the agent stuff relates to KSU/Frank. Can someone explain? pm if necessary.

They feel like Delonte and Shingler didn't do enough to influence mike to stay with Bell.  Bell didn't do crap for Mike.  Other players below Mike in the draft were getting shoe deals and endorsements, Bell didn't get crap for Mike, he was too busy throwing parties letting everyone know he was Mikes agent.  He doesn't have enough respect in the business to do real work for elite players as Mike was thought of at the time.  His client list is crap.  
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Post by: j rake on February 13, 2011, 01:53:46 AM
rake is a dorky chiefs fan. he should stop the sniping.

You nailed it. Solid post as usual.

rake has been killing us on twitter.

He was excited about this piece having some balls to it but I'm assuming he must not have seen it prior to making those prognostications.

Have no idea what this means. I never mentioned a newspaper article and knew nothing of it. The "meltdown" I was referring to was Wally related. Saw him tonight in Aggieville. He seemed fine.  :blank:
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Post by: Trim on February 13, 2011, 08:39:39 AM
Didn't notice this before, but that article's first source used to show discontent with Frank from the community/student body was a cook at Kite's (Kellis' favorite burger joint).  I'd take it more seriously if they'd gotten a So Long or R-A-B cook.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 13, 2011, 12:28:11 PM
So Mike was using DC Assault's shitty agent Bell. Mike got wise, dumped his ass. Malone blames Hill and KSU for not pimping Bell enough and he quit sending people Frank's way. Now they claim Anderson/Sutton/Judge leaving as the reason? Interesting.
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Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2011, 12:32:19 PM
So Mike was using DC Assault's shitty agent Bell. Mike got wise, dumped his ass. Malone blames Hill and KSU for not pimping Bell enough and he quit sending people Frank's way. Now they claim Anderson/Sutton/Judge leaving as the reason? Interesting.

That's a pretty good summary. Never mind the fact that the DCA pipeline shut down before even Ron left. Judge and Sutton leaving have nothing to do with it.
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Post by: Bookcat on February 13, 2011, 12:54:16 PM
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Right now, we’re not panicking,” says Cassundra Gipson, whose son Thomas is one of K-State’s two early signees in college basketball’s recruiting season. “We’re not trying to jump ship.

“I’ve already explained to Thomas: He’s going to push you — push you mentally and push you physically. It’s going to be hard, but if you want to get better, there are going to be times where you have to bite your tongue.

“I don’t think you can blame Frank for some of the things that have happened. You can’t blame him for everything that goes wrong. I trust him. I do. We’re buying everything purple now. We can’t go back.”

translation...if my boy Thomas could decommit we'd probably do it.
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Post by: sys on February 13, 2011, 02:19:21 PM
So Mike was using DC Assault's shitty agent Bell. Mike got wise, dumped his ass. Malone blames Hill and KSU for not pimping Bell enough and he quit sending people Frank's way.

the exact same thing happened with dca and georgetown btw.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
lost interest before I was halfway done
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Post by: Skipper44 on February 13, 2011, 02:59:54 PM
So Mike was using DC Assault's cacty agent Bell. Mike got wise, dumped his ass. Malone blames Hill and KSU for not pimping Bell enough and he quit sending people Frank's way.

the exact same thing happened with dca and georgetown btw.
Hopefully Nolan goes first round, Curtis can get paid and forgive 420k :pray:   
         
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Post by: chum1 on February 13, 2011, 03:17:54 PM
who was the gtown player(s)?
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Post by: sys on February 13, 2011, 04:39:00 PM
who was the gtown player(s)?

jeff green.
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Post by: Clevey 2 Times on February 13, 2011, 08:43:16 PM
The comments on this piece are a treat. Some of the "hits":

"The World War II generation no longer exists in this country. Too bad that we have forgotten that hard work and selfless teamwork leads to success. The same people who say they would not let their kids go to play for Frank Martin are the same people who say they would not let their children join the military."

"Wake up America! Without hard work and sacrifice, we will all lose the way of life that we have gained on the backs and lives of those who came before us."

"Being tough in practice and taking the players aside is one thing; but all this B.S. that Frank seems to enjoy in front of a national audience on T.V. is low class and not impressive at all."

"Frank is trying to help Pullen get drafted in the NBA by letting him handle the ball..."

"Frank Martin reminds me a lot of Mark Mangino."

"Kids these days can't handle discipline and someone yelling and pushing them. If something is too hard, they just give up and quit. If its hard they don't like to do it. Also another reason for childhood obesity."



Frank is approximately 1,000 times better than his predecessor at KSU and we need not forget that before a guy gets run out of town that we cannot replace. I have to think KSU fan with any perspective realizes this, maybe it is just that KSU fan without that perspective yells, screams, and posts to message boards or comments on articles more often.













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Post by: sys on February 13, 2011, 10:19:43 PM
i wish i'd joined the military.  life on easy street, retire young, pension and vets preference.
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Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2011, 11:29:31 PM
So I assume Gtown mended the DCA pipeline because they are making a play for torian graham
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Post by: sys on February 13, 2011, 11:55:19 PM
So I assume Gtown mended the DCA pipeline because they are making a play for torian graham

no, not really, afaik.  maybe sorta, but not really.  when they had cox they didn't get crap for three years until they finally got a commit from goodman (good b list recruit, but problemly).  then rutgers hired cox and in like two months they got three dca recruits (including goodman).
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Post by: Clevey 2 Times on February 15, 2011, 11:53:34 PM
i wish i'd joined the military.  life on easy street, retire young, pension and vets preference.

Pros to joining the military:

1 - You don't need to take drugs due to the flashbacks
2 - Free haircuts?
3 - Everyone says "God bless you" or thinks you're a hero
4 - No one can ever speak out against you unless they want to face an ass beating from members of the greatest generation
5 - pay for college