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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: WillieWatanabe on February 10, 2011, 07:51:52 AM
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signing day. :frown:
http://vucommodores.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020911aaa.html
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Give us your best Commodore growl.
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i dont even wanna know what KSU's room was like. :zzz:
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i dont even wanna know what KSU's room was like. :zzz:
Single fax machine stuck inside a closet being fed recycled pages from OBs email print jobs. Sometimes the intern forgets which side to face the printed pages. :dubious:
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i dont even wanna know what KSU's room was like. :zzz:
Single fax machine stuck inside a closet being fed recycled pages from OBs email print jobs. Sometimes the intern forgets which side to face the printed pages. :dubious:
dot matrix printer for sure.
Also, as excited as Franklin was for their class. It still was last in SEC.
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Yet in a few weeks they solidified a class that was better than what WRSOAT had an entire year to work on.
LaFonte Thourogood . . . had 9 other BCS school offers.
Jake Bernstein . . . had 5 other BCS school offers.
Darien Bryant . . . had 11 other BCS school offers.
Barron Dixon . . . had 7 other BCS school offers.
Larry Franklin . . . had 5 other BCS school offers
Joshua Grady . . . had 12 other BCS school offers
Conor Hart . . . had 9 High Mid Major Offers and 2 BCS Offers
Mitchell Hester . . . had 5 other BCS school offers
Derek King . . . had 6 other BCS school offers
Jacquese Kirk . . . had 4 BCS offers
James Lewis . . . had 3 BCS offers
JahMel McIntosh . . . had 6 D1 School Offers.
Spencer Pulley . . . Had offers from Miss St. and Southern Miss.
Dillon Van Der Wal . . . Had 6 other BCS school offers.
and on and on and on . . .
In other words, a recruiting class that K-State fans would all still have boners over, most of which didn't commit until after Franklin and staff had been hired.
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goddamnit dax. not the point of this thread :dubious:
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don't discount that Vandy is a very exclusive and expensive institution. I'd imagine admissions standards are pretty tough.
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Yes, it really is the point.
I suspect that most of those kids will qualify, because while Vandy has slightly higher admission standards for athletes, that's only slightly higher than the NCAA minimums, not the requirements for regular students at Vandy.
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looks like a relatively standard Vandy class from the past years
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You know who else had a signing day war room video? Ron Prince, and we all know how that turned out.
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Yet in a few weeks they solidified a class that was better than what WRSOAT had an entire year to work on.
LaFonte Thourogood . . . had 9 other BCS school offers.
Jake Bernstein . . . had 5 other BCS school offers.
Darien Bryant . . . had 11 other BCS school offers.
Barron Dixon . . . had 7 other BCS school offers.
Larry Franklin . . . had 5 other BCS school offers
Joshua Grady . . . had 12 other BCS school offers
Conor Hart . . . had 9 High Mid Major Offers and 2 BCS Offers
Mitchell Hester . . . had 5 other BCS school offers
Derek King . . . had 6 other BCS school offers
Jacquese Kirk . . . had 4 BCS offers
James Lewis . . . had 3 BCS offers
JahMel McIntosh . . . had 6 D1 School Offers.
Spencer Pulley . . . Had offers from Miss St. and Southern Miss.
Dillon Van Der Wal . . . Had 6 other BCS school offers.
and on and on and on . . .
In other words, a recruiting class that K-State fans would all still have boners over, most of which didn't commit until after Franklin and staff had been hired.
Now do ours.
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painful to watch. i miss those kind of vids so much. :frown:
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Offers besides K-State
Dante Barnett . . . 0 BCS offers
Marquel Bryant . . . 1 BCS offer
Morgan Burns . . . 0 BCS offers
Jade Cathey . . . 0 BCS offers
Allen Chapman . . . 0 BCS offers (4 mid major offers).
Lamonte Clark . . . 1 BCS offer
Kip Dailey . . . 1 BCS offer
Taylor Davidson . . . 0 BCS offers
Hunter Davis . . . 1 BCS offer
Glen Grankowski . . . 0 BCS offers (Buffalo)
Sam Harvill . . . 1 BCS offer
Tyler Lockett . . . 1 BCS offer
Vaikalafi Lutui . . . 0 BCS offers
Nigel Malone . . . 1 BCS offer
Brandon Mickens . . . 0 BCS offers (S.F. Austin, Texas State, La-La)
Mike Moore . . . 3 BCS offers
Angelo Pease . . . No offers (KSU placement)
Daniel Sams . . . 2 BCS offers
Ian Seau . . . 1 BCS offer
Shaun Simon . . . 5 BCS offers
Boston Stiverson . . . 0 BCS offers
Justin Tuggle . . . 0 offers
Cody Whitehair . . . 1 BCS offer
Meshak Williams . . . 0 BCS offers
Dillon Wilson . . . No offers
Quick Count . . . K-State about 20 BCS offers, and Vandy about 80.
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:lol:
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kstate effect/affect(?)!
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Guess who is his secondary coach is (and subsequently pulled in a crap ton of talent)?
Wesley McGriff.
Way to go, Bill. Tom Hayes is just what the doctor ordered.
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death to the bcs... quality recruits!
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K-State's class will win more games - Hooray Big 12
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Offers besides K-State
Dante Barnett . . . 0 BCS offers
Marquel Bryant . . . 1 BCS offer
Morgan Burns . . . 0 BCS offers
Jade Cathey . . . 0 BCS offers
Allen Chapman . . . 0 BCS offers (4 mid major offers).
Lamonte Clark . . . 1 BCS offer
Kip Dailey . . . 1 BCS offer
Taylor Davidson . . . 0 BCS offers
Hunter Davis . . . 1 BCS offer
Glen Grankowski . . . 0 BCS offers (Buffalo)
Sam Harvill . . . 1 BCS offer
Tyler Lockett . . . 1 BCS offer
Vaikalafi Lutui . . . 0 BCS offers
Nigel Malone . . . 1 BCS offer
Brandon Mickens . . . 0 BCS offers (S.F. Austin, Texas State, La-La)
Mike Moore . . . 3 BCS offers
Angelo Pease . . . No offers (KSU placement)
Daniel Sams . . . 2 BCS offers
Ian Seau . . . 1 BCS offer
Shaun Simon . . . 5 BCS offers
Boston Stiverson . . . 0 BCS offers
Justin Tuggle . . . 0 offers
Cody Whitehair . . . 1 BCS offer
Meshak Williams . . . 0 BCS offers
Dillon Wilson . . . No offers
Quick Count . . . K-State about 20 BCS offers, and Vandy about 80.
rough ridin' humiliating. And I thought getting outcoached by CU's interim HC last year was a :facepalm: moment.
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Dax's numbers aren't accurate. I counted them up (using other sources than simply Rivals) and our BCS offer count was more like 30. Also, there are several kids that had offers from very high quality mid majors like Boise St, Utah, and BYU. I would say that Dillon Wilson having an offer from Boise would be a better sign than is he had an offer from one of like 2/3 of the BCS schools.
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Another thing I noticed- The vast majority of the Vandy signees show offers from Maryland or another BCS school where a Vandy assistant coached last season. In one case, every BCS a kid has is from Vandy, Maryland, and Miami. And I'm curious about how well we notify Rivals, etc about kids' other offers. Vandy has 3* kids with like 10 BCS offers and a 2* kid with 5. Just seems odd that there is such a difference between the 2 schools. We avg 2.68 stars per player, Vandy 2.71. Neither school signed a 4 or 5* player, yet the have many more offers listed.
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Just rewatched the video
sheesh, it made me want to go to vanderbilt. :frown:
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Oh okay jt, so our class had ABOUT 30 BCS offers and the Vandy class had ABOUT 80 BCS offers.
Realizing there's a lot of factors in play, but who would you take in the straight out sales process of recruiting, our staff or the Vandy staff? I bet 2/3's of the Vandy Staff could sell sand to the Saudi Government.
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Sure, their staff are likely better recruiters than ours. Still, the also finished last in their conference, had no 4 or 5* commits, and only beat us by an avg of 0.03 stars. Of any recruiting staff on a BCS team, Vandy would be one of the last I would choose in an attempt to make our staff look bad. Once again, your blind hatred for KSU has skewed your vision and ability to reason.
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Sure, their staff are likely better recruiters than ours. Still, the also finished last in their conference, had no 4 or 5* commits, and only beat us by an avg of 0.03 stars. Of any recruiting staff on a BCS team, Vandy would be one of the last I would choose in an attempt to make our staff look bad. Once again, your blind hatred for KSU has skewed your vision and ability to reason.
You just spent a lot of time researching to make our recruiting look comparable to rough ridin' Vandy. Once again, your blind tardness has skewed your vision and ability to reason.
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Was our recruiting not comparable to Vandy? I speak truth and fight fire with fire.
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Sure, their staff are likely better recruiters than ours. Still, the also finished last in their conference, had no 4 or 5* commits, and only beat us by an avg of 0.03 stars. Of any recruiting staff on a BCS team, Vandy would be one of the last I would choose in an attempt to make our staff look bad. Once again, your blind hatred for KSU has skewed your vision and ability to reason.
Yet their class in terms of BCS school offers out did K-State by a ratio of nearly 3:1 . . . the primary point is that they were able to bring in more kids, with many more D1 and BCS school offers in just a few months, than K-State could with an entire year. Why is that so hard for a powerTARD like yourself to understand? Whether or not they were recruiting some of those kids at other schools is a straw man. What did our staff bring to the table when they came to K-State, in terms of being able to turn kids to K-State that they were recruiting at other schools? As I recall pretty much nobody.
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You know they show the commitment date, right? 7/21 commited prior to the staaff even being hired. 4 of the 14 kids who did commit to the new staff were 2*s. Wanna guess how many of the 14 kids were being recruited (at different schools) by members of the new staff? Pretty much all of them. SquawkTARD.
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What outstanding recruiters. Able to keep the kids lured to them even when they change schools. Our guys, didn't get anybody to switch as I recall.
Lafonte Thourogood (committed 1/28/2010) had more BCS offers than the last 5 or 6 Snyder QB recruits combined.
After having a chance to go through Vandy's commit list, I am starting to lend more credence to "star inflation" for K-State. Take Thourogood for example, he had 10 BCS offers, and yet rivals only rates him a 3 star. We have guys showing no BCS offers being rated 3 star.
Look at some of their 2 star rated recruits, take Jimmy Stewart for example. If you toss out Maryland and Vandy, he still shows 3 D1 offers and 1 other BCS school offer . . . if he were a K-State recruit he'd be a 3 star for sure with that many D1 offers. Let's look at Andrew Williamson . . . 5 other D1 offers, 2 other BCS offers, Rivals has him at a 2 star. Mitchell Hester . . . toss out the Maryland and Vandy offers, he still shows 9 D1 offers and 4 BCS offers . . . 2 stars. No doubt in my mind if those kids sign with K-State Rivals gives them another star easily. Looks to me like Rivals was trying to keep Vandy down, probably didn't want to get deluged by a bunch of psycho Auburn/Bama/Tenn/Florida/LSU fans poisoning the trees and setting trash cans on fire, or trying to kill rivals employees.
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What outstanding recruiters. Able to keep the kids lured to them even when they change schools. Our guys, didn't get anybody to switch as I recall.
Lafonte Thourogood (committed 1/28/2010) had more BCS offers than the last 5 or 6 Snyder QB recruits combined.
After having a chance to go through Vandy's commit list, I am starting to lend more credence to "star inflation" for K-State. Take Thourogood for example, he had 10 BCS offers, and yet rivals only rates him a 3 star. We have guys showing no BCS offers being rated 3 star.
Look at some of their 2 star rated recruits, take Jimmy Stewart for example. If you toss out Maryland and Vandy, he still shows 3 D1 offers and 1 other BCS school offer . . . if he were a K-State recruit he'd be a 3 star for sure with that many D1 offers. Let's look at Andrew Williamson . . . 5 other D1 offers, 2 other BCS offers, Rivals has him at a 2 star. Mitchell Hester . . . toss out the Maryland and Vandy offers, he still shows 9 D1 offers and 4 BCS offers . . . 2 stars. No doubt in my mind if those kids sign with K-State Rivals gives them another star easily. Looks to me like Rivals was trying to keep Vandy down, probably didn't want to get deluged by a bunch of psycho Auburn/Bama/Tenn/Florida/LSU fans poisoning the trees and setting trash cans on fire, or trying to kill rivals employees.
Did you notice who Thourogood's lead recruiter was? It wasn't Rahne or Franklin. WVU had been in on that guy since 2009, so don't act like Vandy's staff came in and picked him up in the last 2 months. The fact is, your beloved Commodore's vaunted recruiting staff had the luxury of hiring coaches who had recruits ready to follow them and they still managed to barely out recruit the WRSOAT. 'Grats, Dax. You want to me check around and see if I can find you a good price on a banner?
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So Vandy's staff isn't really better than ours because they were recruiting guys at their previous schools? WTF?
That doesn't even make any sense coming from jtksu.
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So Vandy's staff isn't really better than ours because they were recruiting guys at their previous schools? WTF?
That doesn't even make any sense coming from jtksu.
The end result is nearly the same. My point was to refute Dax's that Vandy's staff pulled this class in a matter of 2 months or so, which wasn't the case.
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So Vandy's staff isn't really better than ours because they were recruiting guys at their previous schools? WTF?
That doesn't even make any sense coming from jtksu.
The end result is nearly the same. My point was to refute Dax's that Vandy's staff pulled this class in a matter of 2 months or so, which wasn't the case.
Yeah, other than the fact that all their coaches changed schools, while only that old fart from Tulane changed for us, the playing fields were exactly the same.
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So Vandy's staff isn't really better than ours because they were recruiting guys at their previous schools? WTF?
That doesn't even make any sense coming from jtksu.
The end result is nearly the same. My point was to refute Dax's that Vandy's staff pulled this class in a matter of 2 months or so, which wasn't the case.
Yeah, other than the fact that all their coaches changed schools, while only that old fart from Tulane changed for us, the playing fields were exactly the same.
I know. It would be so nice to be located deep in SEC recruiting land and bring recruits into Nashville. Also, I wish we had like 22 dudes on our staff like Vandy.
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Only jt would actually get upset by this reality.
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Only jt would actually get upset by this reality.
Says the king of the day long pillow fights.