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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: bigwillie20 on January 25, 2011, 02:39:07 AM
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Anyone else sick of this rough ridin' prick yet? He would bitch about his 15 inch dick in the middle of a spring break orgy
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I love Bob.
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it was awesome when he said Frank should worry about his offense instead of cheerleading.
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How about when he said that when he goes back to the hotel to sleep he was going to give thanks for all the smart players that he has had through the course of his career because he sure didn't see any tonight....dude is bluntly honest
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I like Bob. And I love how he and Brent are going increasingly old-man casual on the sidelines. Suits? Not for us, thanks. We'll take a polar fleece pullover.
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Knight's deathbed speech will include a criticism of Martin's offense.
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How about when he said that when he goes back to the hotel to sleep he was going to give thanks for all the smart players that he has had through the course of his career because he sure didn't see any tonight....dude is bluntly honest
Sounds pretty :opcat: to me.
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How about when he said that when he goes back to the hotel to sleep he was going to give thanks for all the smart players that he has had through the course of his career because he sure didn't see any tonight....dude is bluntly honest
Sounds pretty :opcat: to me.
It does sound :opcat:, but did you watch the game? It's not really :opcat: if it's true.
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Love Bob. My favorite.
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There might be a little :opcat:because he show quite a bit of love for sprad
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Anyone else sick of this effing prick yet? He would bitch about his 15 inch dick in the middle of a spring break orgy
Absolutely not. :driving:
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I now enjoy his senility. (Is that a word?)
Like, his use of ABCDE instead of x's and o's. He has lost it, and I love it.
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I do agree with him as to why do we have Kelly with the ball at 25 feet from the basket. Is there any reason a post player needs to catch the ball out side of 15 feet?
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I do agree with him as to why do we have Kelly with the ball at 25 feet from the basket. Is there any reason a post player needs to catch the ball out side of 15 feet?
If a post can draw a shot blocker out of the paint, it can be really good for your offense.
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I do agree with him as to why do we have Kelly with the ball at 25 feet from the basket. Is there any reason a post player needs to catch the ball out side of 15 feet?
If a post can draw a shot blocker out of the paint, it can be really good for your offense.
Yeah, and this is my biggest complaint about Bob or our fans for that matter, its like they don't watch our games. Against equal or better talent, which one of our bigs is an effective back to the basket player? Seriously, Jamar is probably the best, but against the length of Baylor that's just stupid. All of them are better facing up, and they've only shown any amount of post skill when they are facing undertalented and smaller bigs. Plus, most of our bigs aren't terrible passers, especially when they have room and aren't trapped/pressured.
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I do agree with him as to why do we have Kelly with the ball at 25 feet from the basket. Is there any reason a post player needs to catch the ball out side of 15 feet?
If a post can draw a shot blocker out of the paint, it can be really good for your offense.
Yeah, and this is my biggest complaint about Bob or our fans for that matter, its like they don't watch our games. Against equal or better talent, which one of our bigs is an effective back to the basket player? Seriously, Jamar is probably the best, but against the length of Baylor that's just stupid. All of them are better facing up, and they've only shown any amount of post skill when they are facing undertalented and smaller bigs. Plus, most of our bigs aren't terrible passers, especially when they have room and aren't trapped/pressured.
when not in transition i still think we still need to run our offense from the inside out though, although the effect is limited against the zone.
btw, baylor is terribly coached, absolutely terrible. just wanted to add that in.
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CK is really pretty good w/ his back to the basket.
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CK is really pretty good w/ his back to the basket.
he can be when he wants to be. the impression i get from watching CK is that he allows his defender to dictate how effective he's going to be on offense on any given night.
when it comes to low post back to the basket moves, jamar sets the gold standard. if only he had the size of CK
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CK is really pretty good w/ his back to the basket.
he can be when he wants to be. the impression i get from watching CK is that he allows his defender to dictate how effective he's going to be on offense on any given night.
when it comes to low post back to the basket missed layup moves, jamar sets the gold standard. if only he had the size of CK
FYP
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kelly coming out on the perimeter => more touches for our most skilled offensive player. :dunno:
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CK is really pretty good w/ his back to the basket.
he can be when he wants to be. the impression i get from watching CK is that he allows his defender to dictate how effective he's going to be on offense on any given night.
when it comes to low post back to the basket moves, jamar sets the gold standard. if only he had the size of CK
Yep. And Kelly is just as good, if not better, facing the basket than back to the basket. He simply is too inconsistent to trust as a back to the basket player IMO.
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i hated Bob last year. But he's grown on me. He's an absolute treasure and he brings up some good points, sometimes.
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i hated Bob last year. But he's grown on me. He's an absolute treasure and he brings up some good points, sometimes.
:love: When he brings out the clipboard and "breaks down" the game during extended breaks.
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I do agree with him as to why do we have Kelly with the ball at 25 feet from the basket. Is there any reason a post player needs to catch the ball out side of 15 feet?
If a post can draw a shot blocker out of the paint, it can be really good for your offense.
Yeah, and this is my biggest complaint about Bob or our fans for that matter, its like they don't watch our games. Against equal or better talent, which one of our bigs is an effective back to the basket player? Seriously, Jamar is probably the best, but against the length of Baylor that's just stupid. All of them are better facing up, and they've only shown any amount of post skill when they are facing undertalented and smaller bigs. Plus, most of our bigs aren't terrible passers, especially when they have room and aren't trapped/pressured.
This is not my problem. I would rather see him freethrow line extended not at the 3 pt line. If he is in the high post he has better angles to hit cutters and/or the low post. If he is at the top of the key all he can do is pass to a guard or hand off. It really limites our offense but then again there isn't really much of an offense there to begin with. If he is on the wing it is a bit of a different story but I still don't see a reason for him to be that far away from the basket.
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knight is exhibit a in my "coaches aren't smart people" campaign.
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musberger is so so absolutely horrible that i am hardly even bothered by knight anymore. he's almost refreshing.
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musberger is so so absolutely horrible that i am hardly even bothered by knight anymore. he's almost refreshing.
He's slipped a gear or two in football as well, but his grandiose style still works better for the pace of that sport. For basketball, his announcing pace is absolutely horrendous.
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musberger is so so absolutely horrible that i am hardly even bothered by knight anymore. he's almost refreshing.
musberger reminds me of the count from sesame street
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knight is exhibit a in my "coaches aren't smart people" campaign.
Most are great people managers/organizers. Met Huggins a few times when I was interning, and with some business schooling he could have just as easily been a CEO as a coach.
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I love Bob.
This. It's Brent I don't like.
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i hated Bob last year. But he's grown on me. He's an absolute treasure and he brings up some good points, sometimes.
:love: When he brings out the clipboard and "breaks down" the game during extended breaks.
I like when he does this when the ball is still live and just stubbornly ignores all game action until he's done making his point. He's less of an announcer and more of a "Director's Commentary" bonus DVD feature.
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Anyone know who is doing the game Saturday? :popcorn:
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Since I love LBBIQ posting and don't understand the moderate to deep dynamics developing on the court, Bob is truly illuminating.
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Bob is ok in my book. Of course he's going to have his "old man" moments, he's old.
I still hate Musburger though, guy is brutal to listen to.
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I enjoyed Bob's assessment of Ohio State last night. He had no idea of any of the players except Sullinger. He just named every position and said they were very good at them all.
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Brent has always made my skin crawl, starting with the nfl today in the 70's then with his rooting against the football team in broadcasts in the late 90s and of course now.
Bob loves us and adores Frank and desperately wants to coach us up. :blush:
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Anyone know who is doing the game Saturday? :popcorn:
I'm pretty sure I saw a tweet that it will be Dicky V and Schulman with Erin Andrews. Not certain though.
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I do agree with him as to why do we have Kelly with the ball at 25 feet from the basket. Is there any reason a post player needs to catch the ball out side of 15 feet?
He is our best outside shooter. 100% from beyond the arc. Duh!
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I enjoyed Bob's assessment of Ohio State last night. He had no idea of any of the players except Sullinger. He just named every position and said they were very good at them all.
More evidence of my thesis....Bob Knight does not actually watch any basketball except the one's he is paid to watch. There are no film preparations for him, as any good analyst would at least spend an afternoon doing. I bet Bob has not called an tOSU game this season, which is why he doesn't have a clue.
I do tend to agree with Bob about our disgusting zone offense. I get CK is a foul line, facing the basket kind of big but to have all 5 players at or above the FT line against a zone is :eek: Maybe it wasn't CK's fault, but his floating around the 3 pt line from time to time tells me he is the likely culprit.
By the way, calling Jamar Samuels the "gold standard" of back to the basket play pisses off any above average back to the basket player in the conference. Because he is our best back to the basket does not make him good at it. Kelvin Howell would be the best back to the basket player on this team.
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Bob Knight's target audience is 60 year old tucks that have watched a total of 10 games in their lives with 9 of them being JV girls bball....not surprised so many people like him
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Sorry if discussed elsewhere.
RIP, Bobby Knight.
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Hopefully they bury him upside down, so his critics can kiss his ass.
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Anyone remember the broadcast where Bobby criticized booing? He recommended chanting something else, but I cannot recall what that was.
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Anyone remember the broadcast where Bobby criticized booing? He recommended chanting something else, but I cannot recall what that was.
"Great job, good effort" or something to that effect. I think a response to us chanting "overrated"
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Anyone remember the broadcast where Bobby criticized booing? He recommended chanting something else, but I cannot recall what that was.
He called for a "great effort" chant in lieu of booing, iirc. Remember when he and Brent were in the OOD to call the opening game of Jake's senior season? Was looking forward to Freddy Asprilla joining the band for another deep tourney run that season...
pic i found on the socials of Bobby with Jack Hartman in Aheard:
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rip.
also surprised he was 83, i thought he was 83 for like a decade. anger and stress can really age people.
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He's a piece of crap, eff him. Can you imagine how he would be talked about if he didn't win some basketball games? I truly don't care about his political endorsements, he has a long history of being a bully and a shitty human that's much more important than who he voted for.
https://twitter.com/Kanew/status/726444248900345856
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rip rescinded
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Yea I don't recall anyone thinking he was a decent human. He always came across as a POS.
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He's a piece of crap, eff him. Can you imagine how he would be talked about if he didn't win some basketball games? I truly don't care about his political endorsements, he has a long history of being a bully and a shitty human that's much more important than who he voted for.
https://twitter.com/Kanew/status/726444248900345856
Same. There are players who have stated that Bob has punched a player in the back of the head in pregame, broken a clipboard over a players head, choked a player, and I would assume dozens of other violent acts that were never reported due to his god status at IU. That guy should have been removed from coaching a long time before he removed himself.
Bob is a sad example of what is wrong with college sports and the misplaced value on winning over almost anything.
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He was an unethical hunter, and an bad person and a bully to people who called him out for being an unethical hunter.
His whole deal devolved from being a tough coach with a fiery temper into just being a jerk and a bully.
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Like a poacher? Hadn't heard that one, deets?
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Like a poacher? Hadn't heard that one, deets?
There's stories of people who hunted with and/or guided Knight and said he didn't buy licenses, didn't adhere to bag limits. He "accidentally" shot a dude while out grouse hunting. There's incidents in Lubbock of him out dove hunting too close to people's houses and he put some bird pellets into a couple of people. One accepted his apology that he swung too far on a bird and peppered her place and her livestock from a distance, no real harm. Another dude said that either Knight or a companion intentionally peppered him with bird shot when the dude told them to get the hell away from his house while they were hunting dove.
The peppering people with pellets stories did happen, and he was cited and fined for the grouse hunting incident. The other stories about no licenses, not adhering to bag limits are more anecdotal. He would also get pissy if he thought someone fired on "his bird" left a dude behind in South Dakota because he thought the dude shot "his" rooster.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-oct-22-sp-25153-story.html
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Jesus
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The dick cheney of basketball coaches
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/135474714465997/permalink/1073398660673593/
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How great of a man do you have to be before it doesn't matter if you are a good man?
If you are that great, why can't you also be good? Seems like someone who is nearly always the smartest in the room would understand how to inflict your leadership on others without abuse. Seems like that is what an actual great man should be.
He used people as his tools. The tools that behaved, were useful to their full extent, and also benefited all seem to like him. That is a filter system if there ever was one.
Being abusive doesn't mean you are abusive in everything or care about other interests. He held futures in his hands. Futures that would be much harder to actualize if someone decided not to take the abuse. There is a selection bias in listening to those who were successful in spite of the abuse.
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How great of a man do you have to be before it doesn't matter if you are a good man?
If you are that great, why can't you also be good? Seems like someone who is nearly always the smartest in the room would understand how to inflict your leadership on others without abuse. Seems like that is what an actual great man should be.
He used people as his tools. The tools that behaved, were useful to their full extent, and also benefited all seem to like him. That is a filter system if there ever was one.
Being abusive doesn't mean you are abusive in everything or care about other interests. He held futures in his hands. Futures that would be much harder to actualize if someone decided not to take the abuse. There is a selection bias in listening to those who were successful in spite of the abuse.
hey Nostradamus, take it down a notch
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/135474714465997/permalink/1073398660673593/
Of course the second post in that group is a link from Rumble.
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How great of a man do you have to be before it doesn't matter if you are a good man?
If you are that great, why can't you also be good? Seems like someone who is nearly always the smartest in the room would understand how to inflict your leadership on others without abuse. Seems like that is what an actual great man should be.
He used people as his tools. The tools that behaved, were useful to their full extent, and also benefited all seem to like him. That is a filter system if there ever was one.
Being abusive doesn't mean you are abusive in everything or care about other interests. He held futures in his hands. Futures that would be much harder to actualize if someone decided not to take the abuse. There is a selection bias in listening to those who were successful in spite of the abuse.
hey Nostradamus, take it down a notch
I found it to be a thoughtful exposition?
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How great of a man do you have to be before it doesn't matter if you are a good man?
If you are that great, why can't you also be good? Seems like someone who is nearly always the smartest in the room would understand how to inflict your leadership on others without abuse. Seems like that is what an actual great man should be.
He used people as his tools. The tools that behaved, were useful to their full extent, and also benefited all seem to like him. That is a filter system if there ever was one.
Being abusive doesn't mean you are abusive in everything or care about other interests. He held futures in his hands. Futures that would be much harder to actualize if someone decided not to take the abuse. There is a selection bias in listening to those who were successful in spite of the abuse.
A lot of good insight in here. Applies to abuse and abusive behavior in a lot of contexts.
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How great of a man do you have to be before it doesn't matter if you are a good man?
If you are that great, why can't you also be good? Seems like someone who is nearly always the smartest in the room would understand how to inflict your leadership on others without abuse. Seems like that is what an actual great man should be.
He used people as his tools. The tools that behaved, were useful to their full extent, and also benefited all seem to like him. That is a filter system if there ever was one.
Being abusive doesn't mean you are abusive in everything or care about other interests. He held futures in his hands. Futures that would be much harder to actualize if someone decided not to take the abuse. There is a selection bias in listening to those who were successful in spite of the abuse.
hey Nostradamus, take it down a notch
I found it to be a thoughtful exposition?
it was only a suggestion
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Bobby Knight always gets me.
I had a Bobby Knight in HS. That guy was a big antimentor for me. A sneaky one. Probably in the same way as Bobby, at least that is what I get from what a lot of what I have read from those who knew Bobby and considered him good.
eff that guy.