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Title: Believe?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2011, 08:40:50 AM
Interestingly enough, Turgeon believes (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/23/2604699/despite-slump-k-state-still-has.html) and his 09 aTm squad (http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Texas A%26M&y=2009) should give us a bit of hope.

Granted, its easy to sit here (especially after K-State has played a stretch of basketball reminscent of the Altburidge era) and have no hope.  But I generally believe a couple things; you are never as bad as your worst stretch and eventually things usually even out over time.  Its not like it will take a fantastic stretch of basketball for this team to get to .500 in the league, but it will take good, solid basketball.  Frank Martin's tenure has shown us that eventually his teams will go on a good run of games (though they generally also go on a bad run).  Hopefully that bad run is gone and a good run is coming.

Breaking down the rest of the schedule, the Cats likely have to go 5-1 at home and 2-3 on the road to finish the season, plus probably win at least one in the Big 12 Tournament. The home games are BU, NU, KU, OU, MU, and ISU.  Even as bad as we've played, you'd have to expect some evening out (especially with Kelly) and its not unreasonable to expect 5-1 in those games.  Then the road gives us KU, ISU, CU, NU, and UT.  The bookends of that stretch are likely losses, but its the three middle games against the North that you have to win a pair in, and again, this isn't some monumental task. Now all this is thrown out the window if this team quits on the season, but I don't think that has happened yet. A couple more losses and it could; we'll see.

That leads us to tonight, this is pretty much a must win in this scenario, and I believe its a winnable game. Baylor is a talented team, but not playing great.  IMO its a good match-up with us, despite a lot of their solid kenpom numbers. Baylor would seem to be a team we can dictate a lot in the game with physical play IF we play like we are capable of. Now, we will still give up some runs and Baylor will hit some 3s, but we must contain Jones, Acy, and Dunn.

Here's hoping the Cats can sustain what little _FAN optimism I have left.  :cheers:

Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: CHONGS on January 24, 2011, 08:45:08 AM
 :bball:
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: OK_Cat on January 24, 2011, 08:47:15 AM
don't do this to yourself.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
Wonder if Jake has realized the huge pile of crap he stepped in with his NIT comments yet.  He probably will have to channel his inner Kemba Walker tonight if he wants to keep any semblance of hope alive for playing his way out of the NIT.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2011, 08:48:29 AM
don't do this to yourself.

I can handle, I've been doing it for years.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 24, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
I'm always going to believe, that KSTATEO instinct is just ingrained into my blood(Wooly was just 1 recruit away, just 1!) .

But I tell you what, I'd believe a whole lot more right now if Josh Carter, Donald Sloan, and Derrick Roland came walking through that door.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: AbeFroman on January 24, 2011, 11:45:13 AM
1-4 isn't what gives me no hope. Losing at home to Colorado is what gives me no hope. Having 5 games where we let teams go on 12+ pts runs when we were leading/tied/down by 1 possession is what gives me no hope.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kougar24 on January 24, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
Better K-State teams have lost (and lost badly) to worse NU teams in Lincoln in recent years.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: Joker on January 24, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
Nice attempt _FAN.  I appreciate the effort, but I just can't envision this turd getting any shinier.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 24, 2011, 12:53:29 PM
We are a young team. With a lot of unproven players. I have prepared myself for a major collapse.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: sys on January 24, 2011, 01:40:50 PM
they are baylor.  we will crush them.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kougar24 on January 24, 2011, 02:23:08 PM
they are baylor.  we will crush them.

Naturally. Then what?
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: Gooch on January 24, 2011, 02:24:16 PM
they are baylor.  we will crush them.
'atta boy Sys. Let the Drew hate flow freely.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2011, 02:28:10 PM
they are baylor.  we will crush them.

Naturally. Then what?

I do have to admit, I have a slight fear of this happening again. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCSNiotMy9I)

Slight.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 24, 2011, 02:35:21 PM
I do not belive.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: mcmwcat on January 24, 2011, 02:36:49 PM
law of averages  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: sys on January 24, 2011, 03:18:13 PM
they are baylor.  we will crush them.

Naturally. Then what?

then we wait till the big 12 tourney, and recrush.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: michigancat on January 24, 2011, 03:20:54 PM
wow, thanks for the SLTH vote of confidence Turg. you rough ridin' douchebag.
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: Skipper44 on January 24, 2011, 03:38:22 PM
wow, thanks for the SLTH vote of confidence Turg. you effing douchebag.

I can just the imagine the look of smug condescension on his stupid face when he said it
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 24, 2011, 05:08:05 PM
Quote
call_me_WALLACE Ryan Wallace
John Morris, voice of the Baylor Bears, says Scott Drew is calling tonights game "Redemption Monday" after the Bears performance last Monday

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: pike on January 24, 2011, 05:08:46 PM
Quote
call_me_WALLACE Ryan Wallace
John Morris, voice of the Baylor Bears, says Scott Drew is calling tonights game "Redemption Monday" after the Bears performance last Monday

 :ohno:

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: skycat on January 25, 2011, 12:55:10 AM
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call_me_WALLACE Ryan Wallace
John Morris, voice of the Baylor Bears, says Scott Drew is calling tonights game "Redemption Monday" after the Bears performance last Monday

More like, "Regression to the Mean day."  :gocho:
Title: Re: Believe?
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 25, 2011, 12:56:36 AM
Nosotros Creemos.