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« Reply #1025 on: April 25, 2024, 02:04:32 PM »
I mean, name one politician you could trust with that power? 

There is no human that can go through what is needed to go through to be president that wouldn't abuse the crap out of that power. 

Something like 20-30 companies would effectively hold that same power immediately upon the ruling being made.  Is this not setting up the king for a day scenario, but forever instead of a day?

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« Reply #1026 on: April 25, 2024, 02:08:13 PM »
Depends upon how broad it can be interpreted. Biden really should consider arresting trump and putting him in Guantanamo as an enemy combatant. They can sort it all out in December.

He could do it with supreme court justices, too. No need to expand the court that way.

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« Reply #1027 on: April 25, 2024, 02:47:32 PM »
And the Legislature as well  :blindfold:

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« Reply #1028 on: April 25, 2024, 03:02:01 PM »
Depends upon how broad it can be interpreted. Biden really should consider arresting trump and putting him in Guantanamo as an enemy combatant. They can sort it all out in December.

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« Reply #1029 on: April 25, 2024, 04:22:23 PM »
I mean, name one politician you could trust with that power? 

There is no human that can go through what is needed to go through to be president that wouldn't abuse the crap out of that power. 

Something like 20-30 companies would effectively hold that same power immediately upon the ruling being made.  Is this not setting up the king for a day scenario, but forever instead of a day?

I didn't listen to the argument and don't know what the specific case issues are, but it seems to me like SCOTUS could easily avoid almost all the legal questions involved by just saying there is no way you can consider a president's conspiracy to undermine his own elected ouster to be an "official act" of a president. That is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous thing I could imagine any U.S. court ruling--much less the Supreme Court.

Trump's position is premised on the argument that he should only be subject to criminal prosecution if he is impeached and convicted by the senate, but if undermining the political process itself is part of the immunity then that qualification is meaningless in the hands of a tyrant, who could simply threaten/coerce/assassinate any who would seek to carry out impeachment proceedings. The democratic experiment would be over.

That may sound alarmist, but what I'm actually getting at here is "losing" this case only means that the Supreme Court declines to give clearer instructions as to whether immunity for criminal charges is ever an option for acts taken by a president. There's no way he gets out of facing charges for Jan. 6.


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« Reply #1030 on: April 25, 2024, 04:57:45 PM »
Meanwhile #blueanon is standing by Barrack by claiming that in unilaterally (self) declared matters of "national defense" aka giving yourself the biggest paint brush in the world - a POTUS and the U.S. government can assassinate an American citizen.   :thumbsup:


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« Reply #1031 on: April 25, 2024, 05:08:12 PM »
Did a justice LOL when it was mentioned today that the DOJ was trustworthy?

Once upon a time the Prog-Libs hate hate hated the DOJ and the FBI, but after full assimilation, that's a bygone era


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« Reply #1032 on: April 25, 2024, 05:14:53 PM »
Obama  :curse:
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« Reply #1033 on: April 25, 2024, 05:15:52 PM »
Oh . . . really really disappointing to hear a #blueanon justice reference a presidential administration as a "regime".

I was told that calling our executive branch a "regime" was very triggering for #blueanon


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« Reply #1034 on: April 25, 2024, 05:16:16 PM »
Obama  :curse:

Someone is showing they don't have a clue . . . again and as usual


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« Reply #1035 on: April 25, 2024, 05:32:00 PM »
Solid legal analysis as always dax
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« Reply #1036 on: April 25, 2024, 05:33:28 PM »
 :lol: :lol: @ StalkerBot.7

 :curse: :curse: about someone discussing actual court events that took place today  . . . in the SCOTUS thread

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« Reply #1037 on: April 25, 2024, 06:38:06 PM »
I mean, name one politician you could trust with that power? 

There is no human that can go through what is needed to go through to be president that wouldn't abuse the crap out of that power. 

Something like 20-30 companies would effectively hold that same power immediately upon the ruling being made.  Is this not setting up the king for a day scenario, but forever instead of a day?

I didn't listen to the argument and don't know what the specific case issues are, but it seems to me like SCOTUS could easily avoid almost all the legal questions involved by just saying there is no way you can consider a president's conspiracy to undermine his own elected ouster to be an "official act" of a president. That is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous thing I could imagine any U.S. court ruling--much less the Supreme Court.

Trump's position is premised on the argument that he should only be subject to criminal prosecution if he is impeached and convicted by the senate, but if undermining the political process itself is part of the immunity then that qualification is meaningless in the hands of a tyrant, who could simply threaten/coerce/assassinate any who would seek to carry out impeachment proceedings. The democratic experiment would be over.

That may sound alarmist, but what I'm actually getting at here is "losing" this case only means that the Supreme Court declines to give clearer instructions as to whether immunity for criminal charges is ever an option for acts taken by a president. There's no way he gets out of facing charges for Jan. 6.

Unless Trump wins, I assume.

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« Reply #1038 on: April 25, 2024, 06:46:53 PM »
I mean, name one politician you could trust with that power? 

There is no human that can go through what is needed to go through to be president that wouldn't abuse the crap out of that power. 

Something like 20-30 companies would effectively hold that same power immediately upon the ruling being made.  Is this not setting up the king for a day scenario, but forever instead of a day?

I didn't listen to the argument and don't know what the specific case issues are, but it seems to me like SCOTUS could easily avoid almost all the legal questions involved by just saying there is no way you can consider a president's conspiracy to undermine his own elected ouster to be an "official act" of a president. That is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous thing I could imagine any U.S. court ruling--much less the Supreme Court.

Trump's position is premised on the argument that he should only be subject to criminal prosecution if he is impeached and convicted by the senate, but if undermining the political process itself is part of the immunity then that qualification is meaningless in the hands of a tyrant, who could simply threaten/coerce/assassinate any who would seek to carry out impeachment proceedings. The democratic experiment would be over.

That may sound alarmist, but what I'm actually getting at here is "losing" this case only means that the Supreme Court declines to give clearer instructions as to whether immunity for criminal charges is ever an option for acts taken by a president. There's no way he gets out of facing charges for Jan. 6.

Unless Trump wins, I assume.

There's still the Georgia case.

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« Reply #1039 on: April 25, 2024, 07:19:20 PM »
I mean, name one politician you could trust with that power? 

There is no human that can go through what is needed to go through to be president that wouldn't abuse the crap out of that power. 

Something like 20-30 companies would effectively hold that same power immediately upon the ruling being made.  Is this not setting up the king for a day scenario, but forever instead of a day?

I didn't listen to the argument and don't know what the specific case issues are, but it seems to me like SCOTUS could easily avoid almost all the legal questions involved by just saying there is no way you can consider a president's conspiracy to undermine his own elected ouster to be an "official act" of a president. That is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous thing I could imagine any U.S. court ruling--much less the Supreme Court.

Trump's position is premised on the argument that he should only be subject to criminal prosecution if he is impeached and convicted by the senate, but if undermining the political process itself is part of the immunity then that qualification is meaningless in the hands of a tyrant, who could simply threaten/coerce/assassinate any who would seek to carry out impeachment proceedings. The democratic experiment would be over.

That may sound alarmist, but what I'm actually getting at here is "losing" this case only means that the Supreme Court declines to give clearer instructions as to whether immunity for criminal charges is ever an option for acts taken by a president. There's no way he gets out of facing charges for Jan. 6.

Unless Trump wins, I assume.

There's still the Georgia case.
I assume Trump’s day 1  focus is to pardon himself and friends of any and all federal crimes, and petition the SC to stop that Georgia case.

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« Reply #1040 on: April 25, 2024, 07:46:36 PM »
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