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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #750 on: March 29, 2017, 01:47:13 PM »
DJamer has been as good as any post at KSU since Jeremiah Massey.

Although JHR may have been more valuable because of his rim protection. But DJamer was pretty good at that, too. I just don't think production from the 4/5 is THAT big of a deal. oscar's PG's are OK, his bigs are OK, his wings are OK. He just recruits OK. He certainly hasn't had a Frank 2008 dogshit class since he's been here.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #751 on: March 29, 2017, 01:49:25 PM »
DJamer has been as good as any post at KSU since Jeremiah Massey.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #752 on: March 29, 2017, 01:50:12 PM »
DJamer has been as good as any post at KSU since Jeremiah Massey.
Assuming you don't consider Mike a post I still put CK ahead of DJamer. 

 

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #753 on: March 29, 2017, 01:55:34 PM »
DJamer has been as good as any post at KSU since Jeremiah Massey.
Assuming you don't consider Mike a post I still put CK ahead of DJamer.

Neck and Neck in my book.  DJamer edges CK by a slim margin.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #754 on: March 29, 2017, 01:59:00 PM »
DJamer has been as good as any post at KSU since Jeremiah Massey.
Assuming you don't consider Mike a post I still put CK ahead of DJamer. 

 

oh yeah beasley :peek:

But yeah, look up the stats b/w DJamer and CK. Very comparable jr/sr seasons but DJamer was a much more efficent scorer and a slightly better rebounder.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #755 on: March 29, 2017, 02:00:32 PM »
you could make an argument for JHR because of defense and rebounding though. DJamer is clearly the best scorer of the 3.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #756 on: March 29, 2017, 02:03:52 PM »
DJamer defense was hit and miss the rest of oscar's bigs poor. Half of Franks big seemed to Better defensively.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #757 on: March 29, 2017, 02:06:26 PM »
oscar is pretty good at developing players, don't you guys agree?


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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #758 on: March 29, 2017, 02:11:17 PM »
I've been the driver of the DJamer bus since day one but I don't think it's fair to say he's the best scorer of the three because he scored more points. DJamer was the second scoring option on this team, Curt and JO were never asked to carry the load DJamer had to. I think Curt, actually I know, had the proper skill set to score a lot of points for this team. JO was more of a JYC and I'm not sure he could be trusted to score with his back to the basket 5 times a game. But yeah JO was far and away the best defender of the three although DJamer was a very good shot blocker.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #759 on: March 29, 2017, 02:26:14 PM »
I give the edge to CK on durability, consistent rim protection and the ability to actually shoot

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #760 on: March 29, 2017, 02:26:55 PM »
CK also d flopped which gives him the tiebreaker imo

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #761 on: March 29, 2017, 02:27:58 PM »


I've been the driver of the DJamer bus since day one but I don't think it's fair to say he's the best scorer of the three because he scored more points. DJamer was the second scoring option on this team, Curt and JO were never asked to carry the load DJamer had to. I think Curt, actually I know, had the proper skill set to score a lot of points for this team. JO was more of a JYC and I'm not sure he could be trusted to score with his back to the basket 5 times a game. But yeah JO was far and away the best defender of the three although DJamer was a very good shot blocker.

CK used slightly more possessions and shot slightly more frequently than DJamer. DJamer was just much more efficient.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #762 on: March 29, 2017, 02:39:19 PM »
I've been the driver of the DJamer bus since day one but I don't think it's fair to say he's the best scorer of the three because he scored more points. DJamer was the second scoring option on this team, Curt and JO were never asked to carry the load DJamer had to. I think Curt, actually I know, had the proper skill set to score a lot of points for this team. JO was more of a JYC and I'm not sure he could be trusted to score with his back to the basket 5 times a game. But yeah JO was far and away the best defender of the three although DJamer was a very good shot blocker.

Jamar is under appreciated, imo. Nice to have a 4 that can shoot the 3 but as beast on the board and draws fouls.  That is a hell of a third option.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #763 on: March 29, 2017, 02:43:59 PM »
So I guess Oscar isn't fired, then?
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #764 on: March 29, 2017, 02:46:41 PM »
oscar is pretty good at developing players, don't you guys agree?

He's OK at it!

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #765 on: March 29, 2017, 03:15:41 PM »
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oscar is pretty good at developing players, don't you guys agree?
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He's OK at it!

A major part of developing players is recruiting players that have a skill set they can grow. He has been pretty hit and miss in this part and it is discounted by player attrition but most coaches has turnover. The players that have stayed seem to always  make more than incremental steps.

Another draw back is I don't think be does a good job of making great college players and or utilize their skill set. I think Rodney became a more rounded offensive player under Weber, but oscar didn't utilize him as well as Frank. The weird kicker is that was our best in conference offense since Lon.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #766 on: March 29, 2017, 05:22:48 PM »
I've been the driver of the DJamer bus since day one but I don't think it's fair to say he's the best scorer of the three because he scored more points. DJamer was the second scoring option on this team, Curt and JO were never asked to carry the load DJamer had to. I think Curt, actually I know, had the proper skill set to score a lot of points for this team. JO was more of a JYC and I'm not sure he could be trusted to score with his back to the basket 5 times a game. But yeah JO was far and away the best defender of the three although DJamer was a very good shot blocker.

Jamar is under appreciated, imo. Nice to have a 4 that can shoot the 3 but as beast on the board and draws fouls.  That is a hell of a third option.

He definitely is underappreciated but I think we're talking about centers, if we're just talking "forwards" the answer clearly starts and stops with Michael Beasley.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #767 on: March 29, 2017, 07:19:48 PM »
Oscars best seasons came when he inherited someone else's players.  So if you're going to argue he is decent at anything it should be coaching.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #768 on: April 07, 2017, 02:40:48 AM »
Still here???

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #769 on: April 07, 2017, 09:00:08 AM »
Update: oscar is still here.

Reason: Veatch feels sorry for him.


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Weber knew it was coming, too, but shortly after the story appeared in the Manhattan Mercury he said he got something else from interim athletic director Laird Veatch:

An apology.

“He didn’t really want it to be a vote of confidence,” Weber said. “It was just supposed to come out that I’m the coach and all that stuff. He called me right after, and said, ‘I’m sorry that’s the wording.’ ”

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article143086604.html

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #770 on: April 07, 2017, 09:03:34 AM »
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #771 on: April 07, 2017, 09:31:16 AM »
hate the feel sorry stuff.

Bottom line, the fanbase is disconnected because of frank running off and then the foster stuff and then losing.

If he was winning the fOOD would be the OOD

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #772 on: April 07, 2017, 09:32:37 AM »
#apologyU

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #773 on: April 07, 2017, 09:42:45 AM »
hate the feel sorry stuff.

Bottom line, the fanbase is disconnected because of frank running off and then the foster stuff and then losing.

If he was winning the fOOD would be the OOD

Yep.

And oscar feeling the need to say Veatch apologized to him sums up the article perfectly. oscar gonna oscar. Always.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #774 on: April 07, 2017, 09:48:18 AM »
oscar gonna oscar. Always.

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But there is a strong distaste for Weber within the fan base. It’s possible that social media distorts his approval rating, but the situation is precarious enough that people close to Weber — people who want him to succeed — have urged him to present himself better publicly. At least one said recently he was worried that the relationship between oscar and the fans was broken, “and I don’t know how you fix it.”

Well, there is one obvious way to fix it.

“You gotta win, that’s what it comes down to,” Weber said. “We won 21. To some people, that was a good year, you made the tournament. Other people, that’s not as good. So it’s just the perspective you look at it.

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