Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 11:30:09 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 11:31:11 AM
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 11:31:21 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 11:31:34 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 11:33:37 AM
what kind?
Let's start with classic American fiction. (reading takes a long time)
Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
what kind?
Let's start with classic American fiction. (reading takes a long time)
(don't be insulted if you've already read)
Grapes of Wrath
Johnny Get Your Gun
Old Man and the Sea (short)
(Hunter S. Thompson if you are open about "classic")
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 11:37:46 AM
what kind?
Let's start with classic American fiction. (reading takes a long time)
(don't be insulted if you've already read)
Grapes of Wrath
Johnny Get Your Gun
Old Man and the Sea (short)
(Hunter S. Thompson if you are open about "classic")
not insulted at all. There's just a lot of stuff I haven't read. Hunter S. Thompson would count as classic to me.
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 11:39:44 AM
The Catcher in the Rye
Post by: _33 on April 20, 2010, 11:40:38 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 20, 2010, 11:50:21 AM
I dunno if travel books are your thing or not but here are a couple that I've really enjoyed. Arabian Sands by Wilfred Thesiger, Baghdad Without a Map and Confederates in the Attic by Tony Horwitz are all great.
Post by: mcmwcat on April 20, 2010, 11:56:53 AM
'classic' american lit? hemingway? anything else I can think of is boring as hell
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2010, 12:05:09 PM
The Moon is Down - Steinbeck
East of Eden - Steinbeck
Tale of Two Cities - Dickens
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 12:10:33 PM
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
Post by: nicname on April 20, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
there is also a list including classic non-fiction works.
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 12:16:46 PM
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 12:34:15 PM
just finished Roman Blood. it's a historical novel based in ancient rome. first of a series by Steven Saylor. pretty good.
i read one of those. about the catiline uprising. it was ok i think. or maybe i read two. not positive.
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Post by: CNS on April 20, 2010, 12:59:48 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on April 20, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
just finished Roman Blood. it's a historical novel based in ancient rome. first of a series by Steven Saylor. pretty good.
i read one of those. about the catiline uprising. it was ok i think. or maybe i read two. not positive.
Roman Blood is a crime mystery based on Cicero's first big case that gets him noticed.
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 20, 2010, 01:05:08 PM
The Godfather
Amazing book.
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 01:36:45 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
blatant post count discrimination.
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
blatant post count discrimination.
actually it was first to reply discrimination. but whatevs.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 01:44:47 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
blatant post count discrimination.
actually it was first to reply discrimination. but whatevs.
are you sure about that? seems like i offered up the best book ever written quite a while before kk threw up his list. probably just trying to get an invite to kk/wrff/chingon pak #2.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 01:45:55 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
blatant post count discrimination.
You know what would've helped? responding to his question, not your need to show off elite books you've read. krusty is a simple man, he needs to be eased in, not raped by bourroghs and bowles.
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
blatant post count discrimination.
You know what would've helped? responding to his question, not your need to show off elite books you've read. krusty is a simple man, he needs to be eased in, not raped by bourroghs and bowles.
:frown:
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 01:49:37 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
blatant post count discrimination.
You know what would've helped? responding to his question, not your need to show off elite books you've read. krusty is a simple man, he needs to be eased in, not raped by bourroghs and bowles.
GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.
judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.
side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 02:01:51 PM
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 02:03:52 PM
No, the classics should be read first. The other stuff only if you have way too much time on your hands.
then read
forgot about the fiction requirement.
Post by: CHONGS on April 20, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
Does it have to be early American?
no. I'm really flexible. I just though American fiction would be a nice place to start.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
Does it have to be early American?
no. I'm really flexible. I just though American fiction would be a nice place to start.
FRANKENSTEIN!!! :curse: :angry:
Post by: CHONGS on April 20, 2010, 02:29:11 PM
I would also highly recommend the following American Fiction
Cloudsplitter (its about John Brown, but fiction) by Russell Banks
The Sotweed Factor (very funny book) by John Barth (I have read almost all of his stuff an like it, but this is his best)
The Penelopiad by Margaret Atwood (she Canadian though!)
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
Roman Blood is a crime mystery based on Cicero's first big case that gets him noticed.
hey, i think that's one i read! maybe i read three of those.
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
read the easy hemmingway.
reading hemmingway is funny. that guy got away with murder. like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 03:07:34 PM
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GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.
judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.
side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.
Other good stuff to try would be Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 03:08:06 PM
read the easy hemmingway.
reading hemmingway is funny. that guy got away with murder. like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.
or warhol
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:09:19 PM
Other good stuff to try would be Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
great author, but her worst book. great book.
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 03:11:58 PM
I have a suggestion for you. I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it. I bought it and I read it. One of the best fracking books I have ever read.
You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.
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Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 03:12:25 PM
Other good stuff to try would be Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
great author, but her worst book. great book.
Which Morrison do you prefer more? I don't know if Beloved is her best, but I think it or Song of Solomon are good intros to the way she writes.
Post by: Jeffy on April 20, 2010, 03:13:18 PM
The Federalist Papers
any of the Vince Flynn books with Mitch Rapp as the main character.
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:14:04 PM
I have a suggestion for you....
stephen hunter is really good.
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 03:14:33 PM
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 03:17:18 PM
QuoteGTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.
judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.
side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.
Other good stuff to try would be Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.
and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.
gtfo
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:20:03 PM
Which Morrison do you prefer more? I don't know if Beloved is her best, but I think it or Song of Solomon are good intros to the way she writes.
i loved song of solomon. one of the better books i ever read. kinda weird that you'd link beloved and sos, 'cause to me those are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of morrison quality.
1. sos
2. tar baby
3. bluest eye.
4. blank to indicate a substantial gap in quality
5. sula
6. haven't liked anything else she's written
Post by: CHONGS on April 20, 2010, 03:21:01 PM
:bwpopcorn:QuoteGTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.
judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.
side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.
Other good stuff to try would be Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.
and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.
gtfo
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 03:31:39 PM
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i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.
and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.
gtfo
Please, by all means, try to blow my world apart. I'm ready. If you want to limit Nabokov to being just a Russian author, do so at your own preference. I'm pretty sure most people consider him a little bit of everything.
You talk like a hipster, you drop books like a hipster, and you act like you can drop your little world lit knowledge bombs on the rest of us like a hipster. I'm going to call you out for it, especially when you sound like you don't know what the eff you're talking about. You can get the eff out, little boy, if you can't deal with it.
We'll see in the course of time how Bukowski turns out. For now, he suffers from the reputation that assholes like you like him, so maybe he isn't all that great.
I am more than willing to suggest or stick to American lit, but it seems like everyone else had some good stuff to suggest, and I didn't want to repeat. And michigancat also noted that American lit was just where he wanted to start, not completely limit suggestions.
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 03:34:32 PM
:bwpopcorn:QuoteGTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.
judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.
side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.
Other good stuff to try would be Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.
and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.
gtfo
You know what is fun about reading those books? Nothing.
I just got done with "Jumper." Completely different from the movie in every way, thankfully. Really cool stuff about teleporting and what you would do with the power.
Also, Black Hawk Down was another fun read.....much better experience than the movie. Lots of dudes getting shot in the face and stuff.
Oh, and here's an oldy but a goody....the Clan of the Cave Bear series. There's a reason every house wife in America was obsessed with those books 20 years ago....lots of sexual exploration combined with killing Sabre tooth tigers and crap....awesome.
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Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
book recommendation for rusty in michigan. this isn't a "best book i've read", or a "book that i want to talk about", or a "fictional book that was written by an american" mention. this is a book, carefully selected to appeal to michigancat, that he would enjoy reading. michy, read this book.
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this would have passed kk's recc's, but my library doesn't have it. :frown:
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
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i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.
and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.
gtfo
Please, by all means, try to blow my world apart. I'm ready. If you want to limit Nabokov to being just a Russian author, do so at your own preference. I'm pretty sure most people consider him a little bit of everything.
You talk like a hipster, you drop books like a hipster, and you act like you can drop your little world lit knowledge bombs on the rest of us like a hipster. I'm going to call you out for it, especially when you sound like you don't know what the shazbot! you're talking about. You can get the shazbot! out, little boy, if you can't deal with it.
We'll see in the course of time how Bukowski turns out. For now, he suffers from the reputation that assholes like you like him, so maybe he isn't all that great.
I am more than willing to suggest or stick to American lit, but it seems like everyone else had some good stuff to suggest, and I didn't want to repeat. And michigancat also noted that American lit was just where he wanted to start, not completely limit suggestions.
you are so mean! :bawl:
If you are going to talk Nabokov talk Luzin Defense, or Despair. Talk about his use of intertextual themes and commentary. Not saying Lolita isn't fantastic, just recognize that its not his best work. Nabokov was born in Russia, and is most certainly a Russian novelist. Just because he later came to America doesn't negate his upbringings and influences (Pushkin.. et. al.).
This is honestly pretty hilarious. If you would like to make up some sort of sweet literature quiz for me so I can prove to you, some guy i care immensely about, that i'm not a hipster, go ahead. If you'd like I could post links to all the essay's i've ever written over all the books i've studied while in college and you can critique me (H for hipster).
Just because I insulted your Faulkner doesn't mean you have to get your panties in a bunch. Its not that I don't like his stream of consciousness, its that i like Burroughs' better.
But I get it, because I'm well read I'm a hipster. Because I named some of my favorite American works, I'm a hipster. But because you've read Beloved (Oprah's book club), you are above me and therefore own me.
Give it a rest.
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 04:02:16 PM
Yes, lets do give it a rest. I think we're being nudged away from our pissing contest by others.
Just because I happen to suggest something that Oprah has read doesn't mean I haven't read anything else. And I'm pretty sure you're the one pretending to own people by demonstrating how awesome you are to have read everything you listed and then making fun of everyone else's suggestions.
But in all honesty, let's move on. I don't think we will resolve this. Think what you think, I'll think what I think, but spare everyone the lectures of how lame we are.
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2010, 04:04:18 PM
read the easy hemmingway.
reading hemmingway is funny. that guy got away with murder. like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.
The only Hemmingway I have liked is For Whom the Bell Tolls.
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Which Morrison do you prefer more? I don't know if Beloved is her best, but I think it or Song of Solomon are good intros to the way she writes.
i loved song of solomon. one of the better books i ever read. kinda weird that you'd link beloved and sos, 'cause to me those are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of morrison quality.
I always thought "They shoot the white girl first" was one of the best opening lines for a book. Ironically, I did not finish that book.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 04:10:48 PM
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
you guys ever do those choose your own adventures? those were great. what about madlibs? does a madlib count as a book? also, frankenstein.
I never didn't cheat at those.
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:14:38 PM
:rolleyes:
Yes, lets do give it a rest. I think we're being nudged away from our pissing contest by others.
Just because I happen to suggest something that Oprah has read doesn't mean I haven't read anything else. And I'm pretty sure you're the one pretending to own people by demonstrating how awesome you are to have read everything you listed and then making fun of everyone else's suggestions.
But in all honesty, let's move on. I don't think we will resolve this. Think what you think, I'll think what I think, but spare everyone the lectures of how lame we are.
if you paid attention you'll see that I didn't make fun of anything until my suggestions went under fire. imho i don't care much for much of the authors i called high school. but i called them that because they are what is taught in most high school english classes. not saying its a bad thing, but there is a large world outside of those authors. my suggestions were merely just a suggestion. i wasn't running around flexing literary muscles discussing the disintegration of Louis Ferdinand Celine, or the incredible works of Yukio Mishima. you're the one who called me hipster dick slapped. meanie.
Have you considered short stories? They're great for beach reads. Carver is great if you're not prone to depression.
also for pooping. very good for pooping.
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:19:31 PM
:rolleyes:
Yes, lets do give it a rest. I think we're being nudged away from our pissing contest by others.
Just because I happen to suggest something that Oprah has read doesn't mean I haven't read anything else. And I'm pretty sure you're the one pretending to own people by demonstrating how awesome you are to have read everything you listed and then making fun of everyone else's suggestions.
But in all honesty, let's move on. I don't think we will resolve this. Think what you think, I'll think what I think, but spare everyone the lectures of how lame we are.
if you paid attention you'll see that I didn't make fun of anything until my suggestions went under fire. imho i don't care much for much of the authors i called high school. but i called them that because they are what is taught in most high school english classes. not saying its a bad thing, but there is a large world outside of those authors. my suggestions were merely just a suggestion. i wasn't running around flexing literary muscles discussing the disintegration of Louis Ferdinand Celine, or the incredible works of Yukio Mishima. you're the one who called me hipster dick slapped. meanie.Have you considered short stories? They're great for beach reads. Carver is great if you're not prone to depression.
also for pooping. very good for pooping.
Ha. Yep. Have kept a new anthology in the bathroom every year. Is that rusty was looking for? Pooping material? Maybe some clarification here.
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:23:40 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to readBooks that are good on the pooper."
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 04:28:17 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."
:curse:
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Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 20, 2010, 04:30:43 PM
Side note: not sitting on my desk: Frankenstein.
Post by: CHONGS on April 20, 2010, 04:30:59 PM
Saw the movie, it sucked. next.Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."
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Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."
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you really really like this book. definitely a good one. but man, you like that book.
Post by: CHONGS on April 20, 2010, 04:34:08 PM
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 04:35:22 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."
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YUCK! Old English is for losers ('cept for Count of Monte Christo).
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 20, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
Maybe rd should have sex with it....
Well played. Everyone was thinking it.
<----- another side note: pic of HST writing The Rum Diary (or maybe getting his inspiration)
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 04:39:56 PM
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Like!
I don't know why, but I can't read most fiction. A lot of it does nothing more than annoy me.
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
:zzz:
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2010, 04:53:43 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 04:53:51 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
:zzz:
Yeah, history is fascinating. I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates? Read the real deal." But I didn't say anything.
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:58:35 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
:zzz:
Yeah, history is fascinating. I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates? Read the real deal." But I didn't say anything.
Not a fan of Ambrose?
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
:zzz:
Yeah, history is fascinating. I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates? Read the real deal." But I didn't say anything.
Not a fan of Ambrose?
NO ONE IS! :curse: rough ridin' nerd count on this board is through the roof.
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 05:05:41 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
:zzz:
Yeah, history is fascinating. I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates? Read the real deal." But I didn't say anything.
Not a fan of Ambrose?
NO ONE IS! :curse: fracking nerd count on this board is through the roof.
You're the nerd, nerd.
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 05:15:53 PM
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 05:24:55 PM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 05:28:15 PM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
she's always really good on the Daily Show. AND MY SH*TTY LOCAL LIBRARY HAS IT! :ksu:
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
Team of Rivals.
The Republic of Pirates is GREAT.
Post by: pissclams on April 20, 2010, 06:12:28 PM
of half of this board's posters (the one's people think are good)read the easy hemmingway.
reading hemmingway is funny. that guy got away with murder. like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.
or warhol
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 06:27:00 PM
of half of this board's posters (the one's people think are good)read the easy hemmingway.
reading hemmingway is funny. that guy got away with murder. like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.
or warhol
Juuuuuuiiiicyy! Do tell.
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 21, 2010, 12:45:10 AM
The Sun Also Rises:katpak:
The Catcher in the Rye
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 21, 2010, 01:01:23 AM
Did you have to read Darkness at Noon in Prague?ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 21, 2010, 04:54:27 AM
Post by: PoetWarrior on April 21, 2010, 07:40:40 AM
The only fiction I'd recommend.
EDIT:
The Plant Sitter.
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 07:42:27 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
read the first chapter, and a :moreira: for asava.
Great book. Will fill a lot of the boring Michigan spring.
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2010, 07:47:52 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
Rusty, for eff sakes, read Winds of War and then War and Rememberance. They go every other chapter Historical Fiction/History. They are also the best books I ever read. FOR eff SAKES!
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 07:54:03 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
Rusty, for shazbot! sakes, read Winds of War and then War and Rememberance. They go every other chapter Historical Fiction/History. They are also the best books I ever read. FOR shazbot! SAKES!
Man, I still have like 750 pages of Team of Rivals and I'm already confused by your book.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 21, 2010, 07:56:27 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
Rusty, for shazbot! sakes, read Winds of War and then War and Rememberance. They go every other chapter Historical Fiction/History. They are also the best books I ever read. FOR shazbot! SAKES!
Man, I still have like 750 pages of Team of Rivals and I'm already confused by your book.
FRANKENSTEIN!
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 21, 2010, 08:14:53 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 08:17:21 AM
A few years back I read a book named "Without Vodka", a Polish prisoner of wars accounts of world war 2. Was pretty interesting.
There's just so much sh*t that's happened. I want to know all about it, but it would take a really long time.
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2010, 08:17:56 AM
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2010, 08:18:53 AM
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 21, 2010, 08:19:14 AM
World War 2 history buffs annoy me. Just thought i'd bring that out there. They weren't there, and have no idea what some general was really thinking.A few years back I read a book named "Without Vodka", a Polish prisoner of wars accounts of world war 2. Was pretty interesting.
There's just so much sh*t that's happened. I want to know all about it, but it would take a really long time.
But this book portrayed genuine human suffering and remorse.
Post by: asava on April 21, 2010, 12:45:53 PM
Did you have to read Darkness at Noon in Prague?ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please. Read "With the Old Breed" already.
haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
Don't think so. However I read a crap ton while there. Pretty much took all lit classes. Was it a short story or a novel? I don't remember all the names of the short stories we read. Did you read anything by Bohumil Hrabal? That crap is amazing. Two of the best books I've ever read under 150 pages.
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A classic for sure
Post by: mcmwcat on April 22, 2010, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: JD Salinger
Murder in my heart, daily, hourly, incessantly, and you ask if I feel as nasty as ever about planetary affairs. … How ready this wretched planet is for the bomb or more Nancy Reagan.
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Post by: MeatSauce on April 22, 2010, 11:46:37 AM
Not familiar? For a reference he also wrote No Country for Old Men.
Post apocalyptic book, now also a Viggo Mortensen movie. You could easily read the entire book in 1 sitting.
Post by: felix rex on April 22, 2010, 02:24:04 PM
Post by: mcmwcat on April 29, 2010, 02:14:58 PM
Quote
When Ernest Hemingway and Scott Fitzgerald met in Paris, at Le Dingo Bar on the rue Delambre in April 1925, Hemingway was disconcerted to be asked: "Did you have sex with your wife before you were married, Ernest?" They became friends, however. Their most intimate conversation (as reported by Hemingway) was also about wives. One evening, Scott Fitzgerald confessed to his friend that his wife, Zelda, had told him his penis was unusually small, and that he could never satisfy any woman. Hemingway said it was just typical of Zelda's undermining ways, but Scott wasn't reassured. So Hemingway asked him to come to the lavatory, where he inspected his friend's lance of manhood. Back in the bar, he explained:
"You're perfectly fine," I said. "You're okay. There's nothing wrong with you. You look at yourself from above and you look foreshortened. Go over to the Louvre and look at the people in the statues and then go home and look at yourself in the mirror in profile." Now there was an act of friendship between creative giants, if not an especially artistic conversation. You can almost see the superior smirk on Hemingway's face as he presents himself as the macho guy who was able to reassure his less macho pal about his physical shortcomings (and then tell the world about it).
Post by: Butt Fugly on April 29, 2010, 04:14:54 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 01, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
Nixonland. Read.
The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.
The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo). I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).
Kafka's short stories are really incredible too. Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.
Post by: tdaver on May 01, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Also, Steven Pressfield has several great historical novels.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 03, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
michcat:
Nixonland. Read.
The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.
The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo). I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).
Kafka's short stories are really incredible too. Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.
Have you checked out Chain of Command, by Hersh. I thought it was pretty good.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 03, 2010, 10:22:37 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 10:26:31 AM
michcat:
Nixonland. Read.
The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.
The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo). I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).
Kafka's short stories are really incredible too. Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.
Have you checked out Chain of Command, by Hersh. I thought it was pretty good.
I am trying to extract myself from that.
Currently reading Chomsky/Foucalt Debate. Then library books No Country for Old Men, then A Happy Marriage by Rafael Yglesias, then something from a Vonnegut reader.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 03, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
michcat:
Nixonland. Read.
The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.
The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo). I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).
Kafka's short stories are really incredible too. Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.
Have you checked out Chain of Command, by Hersh. I thought it was pretty good.
I am trying to extract myself from that.
Currently reading Chomsky/Foucalt Debate. Then library books No Country for Old Men, then A Happy Marriage by Rafael Yglesias, then something from a Vonnegut reader.
How is this? I just got finished reading Failed States which was pretty interesting. Have you read the Bacevich book I listed above? He's a Chomsky fan.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 10:38:34 AM
Post by: asava on May 03, 2010, 11:10:07 AM
Chomsky/Foucalt, so far, is a debate on human nature. Not secifically about some particular political issue.
HUMAN NATURE?! I LOVE HUMAN NATURE. read a lot of philosophy, specifically existentialist works and the like. bunch of boring french and german dudes.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 12:51:01 PM
Chomsky/Foucalt, so far, is a debate on human nature. Not secifically about some particular political issue.
HUMAN NATURE?! I LOVE HUMAN NATURE. read a lot of philosophy, specifically existentialist works and the like. bunch of boring french and german dudes.
To be more specific they are debating Cartesian science and epistomology vs. actual evolution of knowledge in the sciences. But I just started....
Post by: Pete on May 03, 2010, 12:53:39 PM
Saw that there had been some activity on this thread so I checked backed in. Yep, still a bunch of douche bags talking about books that no one wants to read.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 12:56:08 PM
Wow.
Saw that there had been some activity on this thread so I checked backed in. Yep, still a bunch of douche bags talking about books that no one wants to read.
Why don't you get your glasses checked....NEEEERD!
:lol:
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 04, 2010, 08:34:33 AM
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad - only if you watch Apocalypse Now soon after reading it
Dracula, Frankenstein, and The Jungle are all pretty awesome, yet not nerdy.
Post by: mcmwcat on May 04, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
then something from a Vonnegut reader.
Breakfast of Champions for a quick read
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 10:40:13 AM
it's an interesting look at Rational Economic theory and rational choice
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 04, 2010, 10:55:13 AM
my recommendo: Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions, by Dan Ariely.
it's an interesting look at Rational Economic theory and rational choice
looks like daris just found a new book for the next time he has to fly on a plane somewhere. would like this.
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 11:03:51 AM
make sure and get the revised and expanded edition. more pages!my recommendo: Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions, by Dan Ariely.
it's an interesting look at Rational Economic theory and rational choice
looks like daris just found a new book for the next time he has to fly on a plane somewehre. would like this.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 04, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
http://www.randomhouse.com/kvpa/gilbert/praise.html
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2010, 10:33:35 AM
this book is pretty and also looks at irrational things we do/think and why...not book but same subject. pretty good vid to watch. pick the one called "Mind over money"
http://www.randomhouse.com/kvpa/gilbert/praise.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/
Post by: mcmwcat on May 24, 2010, 08:50:12 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html
Post by: felix rex on May 25, 2010, 07:10:47 PM
Twains memoirs released 100 years after his death could be epic.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html
Yeah. I am really hoping that this is an epic drunken old-man rant channeled through fantastic writing abilities (basically "shitMarkTwainsays").
Post by: Cire on May 25, 2010, 07:54:03 PM
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 27, 2010, 11:25:01 PM
Mikhail Bulgakov
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
Their POS car making it across the country was the best part
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 04:49:48 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
Their POS car making it across the country was the best part
*spoiler alert*
I liked the part where Tom crushed that dude's skull.
Post by: CHONGS on February 07, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
I finished "Lucky Jim" a bit ago. Hilarious , and highly recommended, especially for those with experience in academia.
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
Their POS car making it across the country was the best part
*spoiler alert*
I liked the part where Tom crushed that dude's skull.
no, you like the part where the grown man suckles at the teet of the lady after he almost drowns or whatever
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 04:59:03 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
I read East of Eden right after the Grapes of Wrath. Liked East of Eden better.
Also, Winter of Our Discontent is his best book, imo.(my fav book FWIW).
I just finished Pastures of Heaven a couple weeks ago. I liked it, but I really like Steinbeck's characters and that is all it really is.
Steinbeck is one of a few people who I wish wasn't dead.
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 05:01:17 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
Their POS car making it across the country was the best part
*spoiler alert*
I liked the part where Tom crushed that dude's skull.
no, you like the part where the grown man suckles at the teet of the lady after he almost drowns or whatever
well, duh.
I'm going to read Catcher in the Rye next, FWIW.
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 05:05:38 PM
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 07, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
I read East of Eden right after the Grapes of Wrath. Liked East of Eden better.
Also, Winter of Our Discontent is his best book, imo.(my fav book FWIW).
I just finished Pastures of Heaven a couple weeks ago. I liked it, but I really like Steinbeck's characters and that is all it really is.
Steinbeck is one of a few people who I wish wasn't dead.
Steinbeck is a great read. Of Mice and Men is a classic as well. There si a WWI book by him I read as well but I can't remember the title.
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 05:15:40 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Rusty didn't take high school american lit class fwiw
well, duh.
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 05:37:44 PM
Rusty didn't take high school american lit class fwiw
well, duh.
I didn't either.
I would have hated Steinbeck in HS.
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 05:38:26 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
I read East of Eden right after the Grapes of Wrath. Liked East of Eden better.
Also, Winter of Our Discontent is his best book, imo.(my fav book FWIW).
I just finished Pastures of Heaven a couple weeks ago. I liked it, but I really like Steinbeck's characters and that is all it really is.
Steinbeck is one of a few people who I wish wasn't dead.
Steinbeck is a great read. Of Mice and Men is a classic as well. There si a WWI book by him I read as well but I can't remember the title.
His only book I have read that I didn't like. :dunno:
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 07, 2011, 08:57:02 PM
With an open mind.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 07, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
Grapes of Wrath
finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
cool. glad you liked.
Post by: j rake on February 07, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on February 08, 2011, 12:15:48 AM
I re-read Slaughterhouse 5 recently. Was too ignorant to appreciate it in high school.Love Slaughterhouse 5. Pretty embarrassed about how great I think Vonnegut is.
I'm reading Picture of Dorian Gray right now. If I could describe it in two words so far, I'd say "witty" and "fancy."
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 08, 2011, 12:20:21 AM
I re-read Slaughterhouse 5 recently. Was too ignorant to appreciate it in high school.Love Slaughterhouse 5. Pretty embarrassed about how great I think Vonnegut is.
The pictures in "Breakfast of Champions" really demonstrate his brilliance.
Post by: sys on February 08, 2011, 12:21:44 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2011, 05:02:39 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
So, after Catcher in the Rye (pretty good), I was going to try something from this list, but my shitty library had basically nothing on the list, except for a lot of Vonnegut stuff. So I played it safe and will read Slaughterhouse Five next.
Anyone can feel free to add something that is considered "classic" or "timeless". Fiction/non-fiction and foreign authors welcome. Thanks, pals.
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
So, after Catcher in the Rye (pretty good), I was going to try something from this list, but my shitty library had basically nothing on the list, except for a lot of Vonnegut stuff. So I played it safe and will read Slaughterhouse Five next.
Anyone can feel free to add something that is considered "classic" or "timeless". Fiction/non-fiction and foreign authors welcome. Thanks, pals.
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad; the basis for Apocalypse Now
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - Ken Kesey; way different than the movie, and way better
The Sun Also Rises - Ernest Hemingway; sums up the mentality behind manhood
1984 - George Orwell; really gets a bad reputation because of the indie kids that like it so I thought I'd hate it, but I loved it
The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald; if you haven't read it since high school, it is nothing like you remember
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 21, 2011, 07:51:27 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2011, 07:53:03 PM
Taught Gatsby to a school full of poor black kids in 2010 and they didn't hate it as much as I thought they would! Definitely still didn't have anything to identify with about it, but at least they liked the part where the chick got hit by the car. :party:
did you hit any of them?
I read gatsby this summer.
Post by: pike on February 21, 2011, 07:54:06 PM
^Fascinating
Post by: CNS on February 21, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 21, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
Taught Gatsby to a school full of poor black kids in 2010 and they didn't hate it as much as I thought they would! Definitely still didn't have anything to identify with about it, but at least they liked the part where the chick got hit by the car. :party:
did you hit any of them?
I read gatsby this summer.
No way brah. Love all those d00ds and galz.
Post by: chunkles on February 22, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
Tony Diterlizzi: 'Ted'
Metamorphosis is good.
Really kind of hate Rick Riordan.
Read "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman, very dry. Read this almost entirely while on the toilet. Just watch The Watchmen or The Incredibles or Megamind instead.
A.I.L.E.E.N.
Letters From a Nut by Ted Nancy
Post by: CNS on February 22, 2011, 01:21:38 PM
Mo Willems: Any of the 'Pigeon' Series. Knuffle Bunny, KB Too, and KB Free are serviceable, but doesn't emotionally pull you in like his 'Pigeon' mastery.
Tony Diterlizzi: 'Ted'
Metamorphosis is good.
Really kind of hate Rick Riordan.
Read "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman, very dry. Read this almost entirely while on the toilet. Just watch The Watchmen or The Incredibles or Megamind instead.
A.I.L.E.E.N.
Letters From a Nut by Ted Nancy
The pigeon books are well read at my house. :gocho:
Post by: asava on February 22, 2011, 02:35:54 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
So, after Catcher in the Rye (pretty good), I was going to try something from this list, but my cacty library had basically nothing on the list, except for a lot of Vonnegut stuff. So I played it safe and will read Slaughterhouse Five next.
Anyone can feel free to add something that is considered "classic" or "timeless". Fiction/non-fiction and foreign authors welcome. Thanks, pals.
Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov is probably top 3 writers of all time. Any of his books are incredible, but there are a few that deal with complex problems in intertextuality. However, that doesn't mean they wouldn't still be great reads if you just went through them without catching all the references to other works. Lolita would be a great start, Luhzin Defense another, the list goes on and on.
The Trial - Franz Kafka. Kafka is my favorite writer and has written some of my favorite works. The Trial is a good example of his world. Like his other novels it is incomplete, which can, at times be aggravating. If you can pick up a book of his complete short stories (which are real common and really good), I would highly recommend it. Not many of his stories are crazy long and can completely alter your perception of reality upon reading.
The Unbearable Lightness of Being - Milan Kundera
To Loud a Solitude - Bohumil Hrabal
The Stranger - Camus (any book by Camus is pretty great, but most people start with this one).
Journey to the End of the Night - Louis Ferdinand Celine (my favorite book of all time. some of the most stylistic and incredible writing i've ever seen).
The Razors Edge - W. Sommerset Maugham (very similar to The Sun Also Rises but better. short book, but an interesting read).
Dostoevsky - Even though I'm not a crazy fan of him or anything, people should probably read at least one of his works.
Thirst for Love - Yukio Mishima (japans most prolific writer, also one of the most interesting authors as a person as I can think of) I have only read this one and Acts of Worship (a book of short stories) but everything I have read has blown me away.
Kafka On the Shore - Haruki Murakami (incredible contemporary writer who creates great stories and visualizations). He's also pretty famous for Norwegian Wood so that might be something to look into.
Thats a pretty good start to a list.
Post by: jmlynch1 on February 22, 2011, 02:52:45 PM
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The Trial - Franz Kafka. Kafka is my favorite writer and has written some of my favorite works. The Trial is a good example of his world. Like his other novels it is incomplete, which can, at times be aggravating. If you can pick up a book of his complete short stories (which are real common and really good), I would highly recommend it. Not many of his stories are crazy long and can completely alter your perception of reality upon reading.Good Lord, you are Kougar 2.0
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 22, 2011, 02:56:07 PM
Post by: asava on February 22, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
QuoteThe Trial - Franz Kafka. Kafka is my favorite writer and has written some of my favorite works. The Trial is a good example of his world. Like his other novels it is incomplete, which can, at times be aggravating. If you can pick up a book of his complete short stories (which are real common and really good), I would highly recommend it. Not many of his stories are crazy long and can completely alter your perception of reality upon reading.Good Lord, you are Kougar 2.0
Baby Kangaroo, I will kill you. If you don't like Kafka you can suck it. Keep this up and you will never see that sombrero again.
Post by: CNS on February 22, 2011, 03:06:30 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 22, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
fictional books just seem kind of stupid to me anymore. like, why even bother.
Honest is easy...fiction's where genius lies.
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 22, 2011, 06:34:38 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2011, 06:45:50 PM
hey book, i'm going to read you.
book: ok friend, i smell and you and me will be new friends.
ok sounds great book, lets hang out together like bigtime losers.
Post by: ArchE_Cat on February 22, 2011, 08:10:48 PM
Post by: Deez Nutz on February 22, 2011, 08:47:26 PM
Lord of the Rings Trilogy + The Hobbit
The Jungle
Robinson Crusoe
Dracula
Moby Dick (massively long book)
The Great Gatsby
Call of the Wild
All 7 Chronicles of Narnia
No Country For Old Men (Just because the movie was so good)
Life on the Mississippi
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (favorite since I was a kid)
Adventures of Tom Sawyer
Treasure Island
Around the World in 80 Days
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
The Red Badge of Courage
Of Mice and Men (short)
The Old Man and the Sea (short)
The Sun Also Rises
The Lord of the Flies
I didn't list a lot of the non-classic or below average audiobooks I have listened to. There are many other good books I want to listen to but that the library doesn't have available, so I will have to purchase more in the future if I can't find them to check out. Some other good books I have actually read in the past:
The Godfather
Presumed Innocent
The Burden of Proof
The Remains of the Day
Beowulf
The Grapes of Wrath
Post by: DQ12 on February 25, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
And it's easier sometimes not to be sincere. Somehow I make you believe.fictional books just seem kind of stupid to me anymore. like, why even bother.
Honest is easy...fiction's where genius lies.
Post by: kougar24 on February 25, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
Anything by Harlan Coben.
Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates, by Tom Robbins.
Post by: ew2x4 on February 25, 2011, 10:26:10 PM
The little Book of String Theory
^Fascinating
Read some Brian Greene. Really great stuff.
Post by: nicname on February 26, 2011, 12:51:09 AM
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 26, 2011, 04:28:07 PM
Post by: CNS on February 26, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
Also, FAB FIVE about the Michigan bball team is probably my fave sports book of all time.
As far as sports books go, Aggasi's Open is pretty good. Guy was super messed up for a while. Real mumped up childhood.
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 05, 2011, 01:41:23 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 05, 2011, 07:12:06 AM
Post by: j-dub on March 07, 2011, 05:09:23 PM
Old School - Tobias Wolff
A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)
Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 07, 2011, 07:28:20 PM
Recent reads:
Old School - Tobias Wolff
A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)
Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis
How was the C.S. Lewis book? When I get a chance I want to read a lot of his works besides the Chronicles of Narnia.
Post by: j-dub on March 07, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
Recent reads:
Old School - Tobias Wolff
A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)
Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis
How was the C.S. Lewis book? When I get a chance I want to read a lot of his works besides the Chronicles of Narnia.
It's one of the best books I've read. I've loved Narnia since I was like 5, and have read most of his other stuff. And I think it's his best.
You should also give his space trilogy a try, I especially like Perelandra (the 2nd of the 3).
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 08, 2011, 10:21:28 PM
Recent reads:
Old School - Tobias Wolff
A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)
Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis
How was the C.S. Lewis book? When I get a chance I want to read a lot of his works besides the Chronicles of Narnia.
It's one of the best books I've read. I've loved Narnia since I was like 5, and have read most of his other stuff. And I think it's his best.
You should also give his space trilogy a try, I especially like Perelandra (the 2nd of the 3).
What got me motivated to read more of C.S. Lewis was a 12-lecture university course taught by Louis Markos that I heard on a set of 6 CDs which is titled "The Life and Writings of C.S. Lewis". He covers all of the major works that Lewis wrote about and does an excellent job of explaining their meaning, etc. Well worth buying and listening to it. I checked it out of the public library, but I intend to buy it as well.
Post by: felix rex on March 09, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 09, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
sys/_fanwife: You ever read "San Manuel bueno, martir"? Re-read it over the weekend. Effing great.
I remember reading this and really enjoying it.
I usually read non-fiction, but if any of you like Nick Hornby (High Fidelity, About a Boy) check out Starter for Ten by David Nicholls, it's an easy read and pretty damn funny (IMHO).
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my shitty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 01, 2011, 01:35:01 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my cacty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.
Mid life crisis.
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my cacty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.
Mid life crisis.
sounds about right.
Post by: jtksu on May 01, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
Post by: asava on May 01, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my cacty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.
You might also like The Motorcycle Diaries by Che. Captures journey and travel fairly well, but completely different style than Kerouac, and with different intentions. If you like On the Road you probably would love Big Sur, wish I had a copy or I'd send it to you.
Post by: felix rex on May 01, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my shitty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.
Sometimes, this board reminds of the chapter where he's hitchhiking with the blond-haired sunshine boys or whatever.
Post by: michigancat on July 23, 2011, 08:19:39 AM
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
:thumbs:
and 2nd?
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 23, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
Post by: _33 on July 23, 2011, 09:27:40 AM
John Adams or Truman
He's such a good writer that they read like novels. Real page turners.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 23, 2011, 09:54:34 AM
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 23, 2011, 09:55:16 AM
Do you guys attends book clubs?
Post by: Fuktard on July 23, 2011, 09:17:13 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on July 24, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
Post by: scoops callahan on July 24, 2011, 09:38:34 PM
Post by: Pendergast on July 24, 2011, 10:11:13 PM
http://www.prestonchild.com/
I suggest starting with Relic, and read the Pendergast novels ( :woot:). Pretty fun books.
Post by: bigDcat on July 25, 2011, 11:49:19 AM
Also, just got done reading A Dog's Purpose. Was both funny and sad. Would recommend for any dog lovers.
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 25, 2011, 08:42:39 PM
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I really like Micheal Crichton books. "Timeline" is my favorite, but you can't go wrong with Jurassic Park.
p.s. I think I've read all of his books if anyone wants some more reccomendos
Post by: jtksu on July 25, 2011, 09:04:50 PM
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 25, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Timeline was very good. Used to be able to claim I had read all of his books but I stopped cold turkey like 7 yrs ago. What was the one of the abortion? That was also really good and kind of overlooked, IMO.
huh?
Also, after he died they released the one about the pirates (the name escapes me) but it wasn't very good. probably why he never wanted it released, but they did it anyway :flush:
Post by: jtksu on July 26, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 26, 2011, 12:56:10 AM
A Case Of Need was the book I couldn't think of. And cold turkey was a joke cause the dude is dead. We square?
ah, yeah, a case of need. It was weird, I need to read it again b/c I barely remember a thing about it.
The whole cold turkey thing went straight over my head :flush:
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 12, 2011, 11:08:52 AM
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Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2011, 12:52:36 PM
Post by: Pete on March 05, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
The George R.R. Martin series Game of Thrones is the best fiction I have ever read.
Finished the entire series (Song of Fire and Ice), and had never read "fantasy" before. So, I next picked up Brent Weeks "Night Angel" series. Very good. Lots of action and gore.
I have read all the Ann Rice, and Sookie Stackhouse novels (vampires) and rough ridin' love them. Not a huge millitary fan, but loved Black Hawk Down and Dear Mom.
Can't decide what to read next. I am seriously considering the Hunger Games, but am really scared that it will be too childish.
I have read some good things about the "Dragon Prince Series" from Aaron Pogue. May give that a shot.
I am looking for recommendos here, guys. I don't want any god damned ivory towered suggestions...I want to enjoy myself and have fun when I read.
What do you got?
Post by: DQ12 on March 05, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 05, 2012, 09:38:26 PM
Post by: DQ12 on March 05, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great. :dunno:I don't know. It's a different way of writing with some of those guys. I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
Post by: DQ12 on March 05, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
I've tried many times to get into literature. Can't follow through, last book I read cover to cover was pillars of the earth and that was at least for years agoNot every piece of literature is absurdly long like POTE.
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 05, 2012, 10:30:43 PM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great. :dunno:I don't know. It's a different way of writing with some of those guys. I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.
I agree that it's important to appreciate classic works of literature. It's just another form of history.
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 05, 2012, 10:32:20 PM
I'm on like pg 430 on Feast of Crows. Almost out of the boring dark?The George R.R. Martin series Game of Thrones is the best fiction I have ever read.
Finished the entire series (Song of Fire and Ice), and had never read "fantasy" before. So, I next picked up Brent Weeks "Night Angel" series. Very good. Lots of action and gore.
I have read all the Ann Rice, and Sookie Stackhouse novels (vampires) and rough ridin' love them. Not a huge millitary fan, but loved Black Hawk Down and Dear Mom.
Can't decide what to read next. I am seriously considering the Hunger Games, but am really scared that it will be too childish.
I have read some good things about the "Dragon Prince Series" from Aaron Pogue. May give that a shot.
I am looking for recommendos here, guys. I don't want any god damned ivory towered suggestions...I want to enjoy myself and have fun when I read.
What do you got?
Post by: DQ12 on March 05, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Yes I agree. Also, it's positively influenced the way I've written academic papers.I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great. :dunno:I don't know. It's a different way of writing with some of those guys. I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.
I agree that it's important to appreciate classic works of literature. It's just another form of history.
Post by: kougar24 on March 05, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
Post by: bigDcat on March 05, 2012, 11:41:45 PM
The Hunger Games books walk the tightrope between good and childish, Pete. But they're so quick, you don't really waste any time by giving them a shot I guess.
I thought they were going to be very childish, but I found them entertaining.
I'm pretty excited about seeing the movie later this month.
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Post by: FP TC etc. on March 06, 2012, 12:15:06 AM
Yes I agree. Also, it's positively influenced the way I've written academic papers.I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great. :dunno:I don't know. It's a different way of writing with some of those guys. I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.
I agree that it's important to appreciate classic works of literature. It's just another form of history.
Oh, and it means you get to bitch about how awful the movie is :D
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 12:37:10 AM
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 12:49:23 AM
Also, Nickled and Dimed On (Not) Getting By in America, Barbara Ehrenreich. This chick (a newspaper writer) took like 2 yrs off and joined the working poor in Minneapolis and somewhere else, Wilmington maybe. Anyhoo, just took entry level jobs (serving, house cleaning, etc) and tried to get by on minimum wage. Shits interesting as hell. Really good book.
Post by: Tobias on March 06, 2012, 12:51:17 AM
Hunger Games are childish books? Never knew that. Guess I need to pay better attention to the people that have been recommending them. The story line sounds pretty dark so I never imagined they would be childish books. Still probably gonna read them though, especially if they're the type of books I can just breeze through.
i enjoyed them - i wouldn't really consider them childish. i avoided reading them for a while and then it was all i had to read on a long flight - you can get through them in a week if you get into the story (which i don't see how you couldn't unless you really like picking things apart). go for it
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 12:57:08 AM
Post by: bigDcat on March 06, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
I read a ton of "lighter reading" types of books. Patterson, Gerritson, Grisham, L'Amour, etc. Stuff like that I can breeze through in a night or two, if it's entertaining. Slightly OT here- Lonesome Dove was also a great book. Pretty effin' thick book though, probably took me a week to get through. Definitely one of the best westerns I've read. (Don't judge, my grandpa left me hundreds of westerns, I figured I'd give L'Amour a shot and just kept going from there. Really like the Sackett books.)
I loved reading Lonesome Dove, but I can't stand more than an hour of the movie (movie is 7 hours long).
Have you read The Virginian? Probably my next favorite western.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 06, 2012, 06:44:34 AM
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2012, 07:01:44 AM
I've got lots of non fiction but I skip around and read parts I'm interested in and sometimes I end up reading reverse order. Is that weird? So I have adult add or something?
I used to teach lit. I would advise students to do that with some books (i.e. find a part that interests you and then read backwards a little) in order to get into it (this is how I finally read Jane Eyre). The first page is supposed to "draw a reader in", but not all books accomplish that (and some authors, like Michener or Eco, intentionally try to "weed out the weak readers").
Plus, if you're actually studying it as a "work" rather than just enjoying a good read, it's a great way to get a better look at the mechanics/structure of the story (this is actually my fave part about most books I read, so I do it a lot. I sometimes enjoy the craftsmanship more than the story, and sometimes enjoy a well-crafted novel even when the story itself is mediocre).
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2012, 07:02:42 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 06, 2012, 07:53:35 AM
Hunger Games series is a good light read - you can read one a day.
If you liked Pillars of the Earth, Fall of Giants is even better.
Currently reading (well listening to in the car) the Wheel of Time series which is pretty good.
Post by: CNS on March 06, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 06, 2012, 10:39:10 AM
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2012, 12:42:47 PM
I'm on like pg 430 on Feast of Crows. Almost out of the boring dark?
Ya. It gets better, but Dance with Dragons is better than Feast for Crows....they happen at the same time, kinda one big book broken into two.
Post by: kougar24 on March 06, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
If you liked Pillars of the Earth, Fall of Giants is even better.
Fall of Giants was great, but...no.
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2012, 04:52:16 PM
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
I try to always watch the movie before I read the book. That way you enjoy them both and aren't an unhappy douchebag.
lol
Post by: 'taterblast on March 06, 2012, 05:51:11 PM
After finishing the Jobs bio (amazing)
heard he was an bad person. in a cool, fascinating way.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 06, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
After finishing the Jobs bio (amazing)
heard he was an bad person. in a cool, fascinating way.
A huge bad person and batshit fracking crazy. Also very fascinating.
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 23, 2012, 02:06:47 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?
do you suck at reading or have ADD?
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 23, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?
do you suck at reading or have ADD?
No
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?
do you suck at reading or have ADD?
No
ah hell, go for it anyway.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 23, 2012, 02:16:40 PM
Jane Eyre
was an english major for two years. to this day i know more about the brontes than 99% of the american population. always a nice conversation wtf every year of so where people have to double take when i bust out my insane bronte knowledge. also, favorite bronte? mine you ask? anne. what a nut bag.
Post by: 8manpick on March 23, 2012, 02:45:45 PM
I read a ton of "lighter reading" types of books. Patterson, Gerritson, Grisham, L'Amour, etc. Stuff like that I can breeze through in a night or two, if it's entertaining. Slightly OT here- Lonesome Dove was also a great book. Pretty effin' thick book though, probably took me a week to get through. Definitely one of the best westerns I've read. (Don't judge, my grandpa left me hundreds of westerns, I figured I'd give L'Amour a shot and just kept going from there. Really like the Sackett books.)
My dad owns much of the L'Amour collection, and I read tons of them when I was in late elementary-middle school. Great stuff. Loved them. Definitely easy reading / formulaic, but he is a good story teller.
Post by: CHONGS on March 23, 2012, 04:50:54 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
http://davegladow.com/eyeblack-odyssey/
Post by: Tobias on March 23, 2012, 08:12:55 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?
absolutely
Post by: Rams on March 23, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?
absolutely
seconded
Post by: ednksu on March 24, 2012, 12:06:25 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2012, 03:24:08 AM
Post by: jtksu on March 24, 2012, 09:50:03 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 24, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
other books we read that semester: glamorama (bret easton ellis), crash (sex in cars).
def better than the old crap you usually have to read in school. :thumbs:
Post by: 8manpick on March 25, 2012, 07:08:48 PM
Post by: Pete on April 22, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
Also just finished World War Z. rough ridin' good book. Very different. It's a "historical" account of a Zombie apocalypse. Will be a movie next year with Brad Pitt.
I am now starting the Mistborn Trilogy by Brandon Sanderson. Very highly rated, and I like to read series where the entire series is done, so I don't have to rough ridin' wait around for the next books (god damn you George R. R. Martin, GO DAMN YOU!).
Post by: 06wildcat on April 22, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
Post by: CNS on May 07, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
Post by: Skipper44 on May 07, 2012, 05:14:57 PM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book. It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO. Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out. Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff.it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away
Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
Post by: CHONGS on May 07, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
Post by: DQ12 on May 07, 2012, 06:28:39 PM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo. Pretty good so far. Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.I'm reading that this summer.
Post by: CNS on May 08, 2012, 09:23:11 AM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo. Pretty good so far. Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.
The Count can get a little slow in the first few hundred pages, but stick with it. It turned out to be one of the best books I've read. Loved it.
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on May 09, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
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Post by: Pete on May 09, 2012, 10:02:37 AM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book. It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO. Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out. Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff.it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away
Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
Are the DT series worth reading?
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book. It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO. Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out. Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff.it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away
Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
Are the DT series worth reading?
Mixed bag. The first book is one of my favs. I don't reread many books, but have reread that one several times. The Drawing of The Three was slow. Wizard and Glass was really good. The last three were very forced and sucked balls.
Overall, the first four set up a very good story and King muffed it like crazy on the last 3. You could tell that he just had no idea how to proceed from the middle of the series to the last quarter of the last book. That said, I would read it knowing what I know now.
Post by: CNS on May 16, 2012, 05:11:34 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 16, 2012, 08:33:14 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games. Fun read. Starting book three tonight.
Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay
Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.
Post by: Pete on May 17, 2012, 08:37:11 AM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games. Fun read. Starting book three tonight.
Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay
Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.
The end of Mockingjay was just silly. Like a little girl made it up.
Post by: CNS on May 17, 2012, 09:20:36 AM
I just finished Larson's one about the American ambasador in Hitler's Germany leading up to WWII. Very interesting. I recommend it for anyone who would like to understand the posts I assume Sys will be posting during BB season.
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2012, 09:31:30 AM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games. Fun read. Starting book three tonight.
Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay
Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.
The end of Mockingjay was just silly. Like a little girl made it up.
Well, the books are written for little girls Pete. I'm sorry I had to break it to you in this thread.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 17, 2012, 10:12:14 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 17, 2012, 10:40:48 AM
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2012, 10:45:59 AM
I'm not even a huge game nerd.
good for you mikey
Post by: CHONGS on May 17, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
I am starting The Count of Monte Cristo. Pretty good so far. Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.Man what a great book. The build up and the end are fantastic. Highly recommonedo to anyone who loves a good story.
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 19, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
I think people should read Gomorrah. Which is about the Napoli mafia.Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?
Post by: CNS on May 20, 2012, 07:32:44 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games. Fun read. Starting book three tonight.
Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay
Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.
The end of Mockingjay was just silly. Like a little girl made it up.
Confirmed. :sad:
Post by: Fedor on May 20, 2012, 10:05:08 PM
I am pumped to start Shogun, it was a miniseries in the 80's so it must be pretty good.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 20, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
Post by: Pete on May 21, 2012, 06:36:25 AM
I just read Sense of Direction - nonfiction about a 30 year old with daddy issues doing pilgrimages around the world. It was pretty decent
the eff would compel you to read something like that?
Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2012, 09:17:05 AM
I just read Sense of Direction - nonfiction about a 30 year old with daddy issues doing pilgrimages around the world. It was pretty decent
the eff would compel you to read something like that?
Saw an article talk about how it was awesome. It kinda captures that after college wanderlust pretty well. And his daddy issues are fairly interesting, his was a Rabbi and came out as gay when the kid was 19.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2012, 12:52:37 PM
Post by: felix rex on June 04, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
Now just finished Turn Right at Machu Picchu. Nonfiction about a guy who employs a crocodile dundee-esque guide to take him on old Incan trail. Good mix of adventure/history. Incan history and their conquest by Spaniards is pretty nuts. Reviews seemed to promise more humor than was delivered.
Inca humor is notoriously subtle.
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2012, 09:30:11 AM
Post by: ben ji on June 04, 2012, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
Now just finished Turn Right at Machu Picchu. Nonfiction about a guy who employs a crocodile dundee-esque guide to take him on old Incan trail. Good mix of adventure/history. Incan history and their conquest by Spaniards is pretty nuts. Reviews seemed to promise more humor than was delivered.
Inca humor is notoriously subtle.
:thumbs:
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 04, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games. Fun read. Starting book three tonight.
Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay
Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.
The end of Mockingjay was just silly. Like a little girl made it up.
Confirmed. :sad:
Didn't think Catching Fire scrambled as much as Mockingjay did, Catching Fire made me want to read Mockingjay immediately. However, the end of Mockingjay was just brutal. I like to think it was just a rough draft and the real ending is coming out soon...
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 11, 2012, 05:33:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 11, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
My sister is coaching a club volleyball team. I think she may have a future in coaching, or at least the development of youngsters. What are some good books on coaching or leadership? I would like something that seems to jive with what :bill: does. You know, the work hard, focus on what you can control, get better every day type stuff. What say you?
http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Game-Tennis-Classic-Performance/dp/0679778314
Post by: ew2x4 on December 11, 2012, 06:18:27 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on December 26, 2012, 01:00:23 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 26, 2012, 01:03:13 PM
I think people should read Gomorrah. Which is about the Napoli mafia.Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?
Pretty sure yes.
Post by: Kat Kid on December 26, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
Read Villa and Zapata and Game of Thrones.
Post by: 8manpick on December 26, 2012, 01:08:16 PM
I think people should read Gomorrah. Which is about the Napoli mafia.Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?
Pretty sure yes.
I just bought it on Amazon for $0.01. It better not suck, KK.
Post by: michigancat on December 26, 2012, 02:49:55 PM
My goal this Christmas break:
Read Villa and Zapata and Game of Thrones.
GoT is tough at first because there's so many names and details, but plow through it and it's worth it.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 26, 2012, 03:07:59 PM
Post by: chum1 on December 26, 2012, 03:16:03 PM
I started Catch-22. About 50 pages in, I was wondering if I'd finish it. Then, I saw it was at the top of the list of books most often started and not finished on goodreads. So, I'm now about a third done and determined to finish.
Post by: SabiNation on December 26, 2012, 03:20:12 PM
-Sports
-Numbers/Statistics
I'm only like halfway through it but so far it's a great read
Post by: mocat on December 26, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
reminds me of the movie Up in the sense that you may cry in the first chapter or two
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 26, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 26, 2012, 03:50:17 PM
I am looking for a good food book. I'll probably just finally read kitchen confidential. There is some reluctant chef book that amazon keeps pushing though that it may just sell me on.
Bourdain's fiction isn't bad either...
Post by: Cire on December 26, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
Post by: j-dub on December 26, 2012, 03:53:03 PM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture. INcredibly easy read as well.
yeah, read this a couple years back. liked it very much.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 26, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture. INcredibly easy read as well.
All book recommendos for CF3 need this disclaimer if I'm going to have any chance. #ReadingBooksIsHard
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 27, 2012, 03:49:31 PM
everyone should buy and then read this book which talks about goEMAW and probably other things
http://davegladow.com/eyeblack-odyssey/
I'm thinking about reading this book. The KSU game in it is the only game in the past 15 years I did not either attend, watch, listen to, or care about as it was happening. Weird.
Post by: jtksu on December 27, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo. Pretty good so far. Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.
One of my fave books of all-time. Just a fantastic story.
Post by: nicname on December 27, 2012, 07:46:02 PM
:zzz:
Do Not Recommend.
Post by: mocat on December 28, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Post by: CNS on December 28, 2012, 09:22:26 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it. :frown:
Same one did it to me. Couldnt get through first 100pgs. Tied again yrs later, pushed through the beginning and it turned out to be a very good book.
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Post by: asava on December 28, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it. :frown:
Started to read Anna Karenina. Broke me within 200 pages. Will try and pick it up again though.
Post by: chum1 on December 28, 2012, 11:17:23 AM
Post by: asava on December 28, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times. I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.
It's your white whale, chum.
Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times. I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.
That's weird. You only have like 20 pages left, right?
Post by: mocat on December 28, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it. :frown:
Same one did it to me. Couldnt get through first 100pgs. Tied again yrs later, pushed through the beginning and it turned out to be a very good book.
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I need to get back on that horse! :D
Post by: Stevesie60 on December 28, 2012, 05:39:07 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 28, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on December 28, 2012, 05:54:07 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
Post by: Willesgirl on December 28, 2012, 05:59:14 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.
Post by: 8manpick on December 28, 2012, 06:24:15 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.
One out of four ain't bad
Post by: chum1 on December 28, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times. I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.
That's weird. You only have like 20 pages left, right?
On the second and third attempts, I was like, "Well, maybe I won't remember enough to fully appreciate the ending, so I'll start from the beginning again." Now, I'm just like, "I don't even think the book is all that good anyway."
Post by: CNS on December 28, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Tale of Two Cities is so frustrating. I've read 75% of it, had no idea what was going on at any point, but just loved the prose. Would read lines that made me put the book down and just think about how beautiful and perfect Dickens' analogies were. But yeah, no idea what was happening page to page.
Try the audio book. Listened to it after reading it and it was really good and easier to follow if you don't have a lot of reading time.
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Post by: Kat Kid on December 28, 2012, 07:40:15 PM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it. :frown:
Definitely.
Finnegan's Wake within two pages, Democracy in America after 50 or so. I actually really like de Tocqueville's writing, but the prose is so good that it is a slow read and probably need to read it with a shepherd or with a group.
Post by: bones129 on December 28, 2012, 07:48:52 PM
Post by: Cire on December 28, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 28, 2012, 08:56:19 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
AP is one of my faves, read it twice. Had to read glamorama in college, and BEE is definitely fantastic.
Going to read brave new world and then maybe less than zero. There is a book on columbine that I'm eying as well.
Post by: Ron Princes Goatee on December 30, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
Post by: DQ12 on December 30, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
Tale of Two Cities is so frustrating. I've read 75% of it, had no idea what was going on at any point, but just loved the prose. Would read lines that made me put the book down and just think about how beautiful and perfect Dickens' analogies were. But yeah, no idea what was happening page to page.oh man jakesie. great post. completely agreed re. Dickens' prose. but TOTC is an incredible story too. it probably helps to have a little knowledge about the french revolution. Sydney is my favorite character in any piece of literature. i think i'm going to name my son (if i have one) Sydney, after old Sid Carton.
i've been battling through david copperfield over the last year or so whenever i've had time. the story isn't near as good as TOTC, but it's just great writing.
Post by: CNS on December 30, 2012, 01:26:52 PM
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Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2012, 01:29:23 PM
Post by: DQ12 on December 30, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
Bleak house is really good too fwiwi was about to buy that the other day but it looked really long and i hadn't heard anyone say anything good about it except for the back cover, which called it "Dickens' 'masterpiece.'" But David Copperfield said the exact same thing.
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I'll take your word for it though. That'll be my next one.
Post by: CNS on December 30, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
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Post by: Mr Bread on December 31, 2012, 12:22:29 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.
That's not what The Rules of Attraction is about, other than the coke snorting.
Post by: Mr Bread on December 31, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
AP is one of my faves, read it twice. Had to read glamorama in college, and BEE is definitely fantastic.
Going to read brave new world and then maybe less than zero. There is a book on columbine that I'm eying as well.
Less than zero is a good one. Recommend.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 31, 2012, 04:07:03 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.
That's not what The Rules of Attraction is about, other than the coke snorting.
sadly, the best "chapter" is patricks. i was so psyched about it and reading it in bale's voice that i had to immediately read it again.
rock n' roll. deal with it.
Post by: shivvyman on December 31, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
Frat Boy / Jew / Baller / Womanizer / Addict......type of book.
Read it in 3 days. Pretty hilarious. Just saw they are making a move starring Leo D on it.
Would recommend.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 02, 2013, 08:49:59 AM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Oh crap, BEE :love:!!! Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:
The movie was very good. I bought it after I saw it. It really reaffirms my view of life.
So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.
That's not what The Rules of Attraction is about, other than the coke snorting.
Maybe she's one of those people who think that if you do drugs, you support all of those other things. Do you remember those old commercials?
Post by: Kat Kid on January 02, 2013, 09:02:09 AM
want a good cry? read "A Happy Mrriage" by Rafael Yglesias
Post by: felix rex on January 02, 2013, 10:49:50 AM
Just finished Blindness by Jose Saramango. Really good, a bit tough to start with the style with no quotation marks and very long sentences, but it helps set the mood. If possible read it with no spoilers from the outside.
Did you read it in Portuguese? Not being uppity, just wondered. I tried and caved. Was too much to process in a non-native language (as you described).
Post by: felix rex on January 02, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on January 02, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
Post by: michigancat on January 02, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon
what's a good one to start with?
I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
Post by: CHONGS on January 02, 2013, 12:18:16 PM
Read it in English. After about the first three pages it seems natural and helps with the claustrophobic effect. I am thinking about Cain next.Just finished Blindness by Jose Saramango. Really good, a bit tough to start with the style with no quotation marks and very long sentences, but it helps set the mood. If possible read it with no spoilers from the outside.
Did you read it in Portuguese? Not being uppity, just wondered. I tried and caved. Was too much to process in a non-native language (as you described).
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Post by: CHONGS on January 02, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first. F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon
what's a good one to start with?
I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
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Post by: CNS on January 02, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
Post by: ew2x4 on January 02, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Ready Player One will be the freshman book for KSU next year and it is apparently quite good. Also short.
It's a quick read. I liked it, but it's not exactly fine literature.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 02, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Ready Player One will be the freshman book for KSU next year and it is apparently quite good. Also short.
It's a quick read. I liked it, but it's not exactly fine literature.
yeah. i wouldn't think so.
Post by: porky morgan on January 02, 2013, 05:51:10 PM
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 01:07:15 AM
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first. F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon
what's a good one to start with?
I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
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Completely agree. Pendulum is better, Rose is more accessible (but even then the first 80 pages or so are intentionally challenging). I would almost recommend Baudolino. I think michcat would really enjoy it.
Post by: bones129 on January 03, 2013, 01:20:30 AM
Now reading Tony's "One Last Srike." With 100 pages left, I suspect my award will likely go to "Boys of Summer." Not a current list read, but one of the best pieces of sportswriting I've ever seen. Could read it many times over.
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2013, 01:25:26 AM
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first. F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon
what's a good one to start with?
I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
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Completely agree. Pendulum is better, Rose is more accessible (but even then the first 80 pages or so are intentionally challenging). I would almost recommend Baudolino. I think michcat would really enjoy it.
Currently reading "A Bright Shining Lie". So far, so good. I'll give Eco a try next. Maybe alternate fiction and non fiction.
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 05:35:29 AM
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first. F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon
what's a good one to start with?
I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
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Completely agree. Pendulum is better, Rose is more accessible (but even then the first 80 pages or so are intentionally challenging). I would almost recommend Baudolino. I think michcat would really enjoy it.
Currently reading "A Bright Shining Lie". So far, so good. I'll give Eco a try next. Maybe alternate fiction and non fiction.
Eco is a nice mix of the two genres. Especially baudolino. It would appeal to your cynical hipster side.
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2013, 07:54:02 AM
Ship of Gold in the Deep Blue Sea
http://www.amazon.com/Ship-Gold-Deep-Blue-Sea/dp/080214425X (http://www.amazon.com/Ship-Gold-Deep-Blue-Sea/dp/080214425X)
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
Also, if you are looking for non-fiction that is decent read, try Erik Larsen. Earlier this year, I read In The Garden of Beasts. It was really interesting. It is about the ambassador to Berlin(and his family) during Hitler's rise right before the war.
Also, Devil in the White City was really good.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 03, 2013, 10:06:03 AM
I have a hard time alternating fiction with non-fiction when the last fiction book I read was a really good one. If it wasn't, that is when I move to non-fiction.
Also, if you are looking for non-fiction that is decent read, try Erik Larsen. Earlier this year, I read In The Garden of Beasts. It was really interesting. It is about the ambassador to Berlin(and his family) during Hitler's rise right before the war.
Also, Devil in the White City was really good.
man, I could barely get through Devil....
Unbroken was a fascinating read....unreal what a man can endure.
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2013, 10:37:30 AM
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 11:52:58 AM
I'm really interested in world and domestic politics and history. Those look good. "Devil in the Grove" about a Thurgood Marshall trial seems good too.
Yeah, then read Eco and keep wiki-ing the historical events that serve as the backdrop.
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2013, 12:05:29 PM
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
Post by: jtksu on January 03, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
Serious post, my friends. Best baseball book? I used to say "Three Nights In August" by Tony LaRussa, or Kahn's "Boys of Summer." Tony's book for my greatest love about baseball--dugout strategy. Kahn's book for pure classic writing about baseball.
Now reading Tony's "One Last Srike." With 100 pages left, I suspect my award will likely go to "Boys of Summer." Not a current list read, but one of the best pieces of sportswriting I've ever seen. Could read it many times over.
Bang the Drum Slowly is probably the best ever. Moneyball was good. Of course, The Natural is timeless. I also like autobiographies but really just ones about favorite players like Kirby Puckett.
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2013, 01:31:48 PM
The Baulodino one does sound good in it's description.
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 01:44:47 PM
Sorry, the pendulum one and Baulodino. Already read Rose.
The Baulodino one does sound good in it's description.
Yes. It's wonderful. Not as jaw-droppingly crafted as pendulum (which from a technical aspect is just an amazing work of literature) but so fun and delightful in its playful and subtle condemnation of certain societal aspects.
As a dropout phd lit student, I think it's a matter of time until Eco becomes part of the canon. And I can't want to start using phrases like "ma gavte la nata" the same way we drop references to other common knowledge authors.
Post by: Cire on January 07, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
Sorry, the pendulum one and Baulodino. Already read Rose.
The Baulodino one does sound good in it's description.
Yes. It's wonderful. Not as jaw-droppingly crafted as pendulum (which from a technical aspect is just an amazing work of literature) but so fun and delightful in its playful and subtle condemnation of certain societal aspects.
As a dropout phd lit student, I think it's a matter of time until Eco becomes part of the canon. And I can't want to start using phrases like "ma gavte la nata" the same way we drop references to other common knowledge authors.
Are these fiction?
Ready to start next non fiction.
Post by: Cire on January 07, 2013, 10:24:30 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
Post by: Cire on January 07, 2013, 10:36:09 PM
I'm reading Pendulum now along with the Vietnam book. Two books at once! Crazy!
Yeah I'm in got book three and just finished my Indian book
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 08, 2013, 01:11:48 AM
Has anyone read undaunted courage?
yes. i liked it. a very fun way to learn more about that time period.
Post by: MeatSauce on January 10, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
Sarum - I have not read any of Rutherfords other historical novels, but I did enjoy this, quite a lot.
Bless the Beasts and Children - random re-read. still enjoyed after 15+ years.
Cloud Atlas: wow. yes. recommend. i'm sure it already is ITT.
50 Shades of Gray: oh
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2013, 10:49:17 AM
I think people should read Gomorrah. Which is about the Napoli mafia.Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?
Pretty sure yes.
I just bought it on Amazon for $0.01. It better not suck, KK.
So far it is very good. I'm about 3/4 of the way through. May try to get it finished up tonight.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 11:00:23 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it. :frown:
Fellowship of the Ring. 100 rough ridin' pages in a dark forest? GTFOOMF!
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2013, 11:50:15 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 11, 2013, 08:48:50 AM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture. INcredibly easy read as well.
I've yet to read an indian book where the particular indian tribe wasn't the baddest of them all. I've seen it said now about the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, and now the Comanche. WHO DO I BELIEVE?! :runaway:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture. INcredibly easy read as well.
I've yet to read an indian book where the particular indian tribe wasn't the baddest of them all. I've seen it said now about the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, and now the Comanche. WHO DO I BELIEVE?! :runaway:
It was the Aztecs. The Inca were close, but it was the Aztecs.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 11, 2013, 08:53:26 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
reading the Steve Jobs biography. What an bad person.
I agree (haven't read his biography).
Post by: felix rex on February 11, 2013, 10:39:15 AM
I'm "over the hump" with Pendulum. Man, Dan Brown, what a hack.
CONGRATS, RUSTY!
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
I'm "over the hump" with Pendulum. Man, Dan Brown, what a hack.
CONGRATS, RUSTY!
Thanks, it's still going kind of slow because of game of thrones. Just had a hilarious Abulafia story with the gorem(?) turning to dust. "What are you talking about? I don't have a scroll". :lol:
Post by: EuroCat on February 11, 2013, 12:09:39 PM
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.
Post by: felix rex on February 11, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Just started Pendulum. The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.
No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.
Hang in there, Casey. It's all worthwhile.
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2013, 06:30:28 PM
http://www.amazon.com/The-Information-History-Theory-Flood/dp/1400096235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362011384&sr=8-1&keywords=the+information
And I need something for my next fiction. Maybe I'll try Hemingway again.
Post by: the_ugly_clown on February 27, 2013, 06:38:08 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 27, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)
Didn't I already post this one? Good read for sure. On the drive to Phoenix I told the entire RV the story of Kit Carson. Showed them Mt Taylor on the drive by, etc.
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2013, 06:44:26 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)
looks awesome. Fun fact: one of my first reports ever was written about Kit Carson. I think I chose him because I thought his name was cool.
Post by: SdK on February 27, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
Got it as a Christmas present in '06 by a girlfriend. Loved the crap out of it.
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
The Sotweed Factor (very funny book) by John Barth (I have read almost all of his stuff an like it, but this is his best)
started reading this. It is very funny. I think I will enjoy it.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 07, 2013, 02:45:45 PM
Post by: ben ji on March 07, 2013, 04:39:24 PM
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 07, 2013, 04:54:47 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Post by: KSUblumpkin on March 07, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
Post by: asava on March 11, 2013, 11:01:27 AM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger. This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence. It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!
Yep. "Being and Nothingness" by Satre is one of my faves.
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2013, 11:36:34 AM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger. This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence. It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!
Yep. "Being and Nothingness" by Satre is one of my faves.
could one read these before you go to bed, or will it put you right to sleep?
also, really enjoying sot-weed. Ebenezer seems like such a great listener.
Post by: asava on March 11, 2013, 12:08:37 PM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger. This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence. It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!
Yep. "Being and Nothingness" by Satre is one of my faves.
could one read these before you go to bed, or will it put you right to sleep?
also, really enjoying sot-weed. Ebenezer seems like such a great listener.
There are several essays and lectures that are shorter and not as in depth that I find good reads before bed. With existentialists I find myself having to re-read several paragraphs in order to make sure I understand fully what they are getting at, so with the longer novels I tend to stay away from reading just before bed. You also run the risk of drastically changing your understanding of the world, which could keep you up for hours on end in contemplation.
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
You also run the risk of drastically changing your understanding of the world, which could keep you up for hours on end in contemplation.
I don't know. I'm usually pretty sleepy at bedtime. but yeah, the rereading thing.
Post by: ben ji on March 11, 2013, 12:52:27 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 11, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
:thumbs:
Post by: ben ji on March 11, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Very "Academic" book but there are some crazy stories in there about the USSR's Bio/Chemical/Nuclear weapon programs, some good ones off the top of my head....
We signed some treaty in the 70's banning development of chem/bio weapons. The Soviets just ignored it because they figured we were ignoring it too. We weren't :frown:
This incident, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak ...Bunch of Anthrax gets out of their production facility and kills over 100 people. Soviets blame it on "tainted meat".
High level soviet scientists got paid crap, especially right after the USSR fell.
The USSR used to just ship bio/chem/nuclear weapons in "Armoured Train cars" which were basically just standard train cars with some Steel bolted on the side.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 12, 2013, 08:04:11 AM
Post by: ben ji on March 12, 2013, 09:16:52 AM
I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.
Loved the book but I just know they will butcher the movie. IIRC it has been in "Development" for like 2 years now....FIGURE IT OUT BRAD PITT :shakesfist:
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2013, 09:21:19 AM
Post by: Cire on March 12, 2013, 09:34:19 AM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture. INcredibly easy read as well.
I've yet to read an indian book where the particular indian tribe wasn't the baddest of them all. I've seen it said now about the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, and now the Comanche. WHO DO I BELIEVE?! :runaway:
they are out there but tend to be academic and very dry. EOTSM was written by a journalist and reads like it.
there is some truth to the notion that the sioux, apache(geronimo and cochise's bands etc) were in fact the baddest of their time and region.
Post by: CNS on March 12, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great. :D
Oh man, if you like the first 80pgs, you will really love the last 100 or so. :excited:
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2013, 07:34:34 AM
Post by: Cire on March 20, 2013, 08:24:36 AM
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2013, 08:28:34 AM
You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great. :D
Oh man, if you like the first 80pgs, you will really love the last 100 or so. :excited:
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 08:42:21 AM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Looks really depressing.
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2013, 08:42:47 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
:thumbs:
Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 08:44:23 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
:thumbs:
Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!
:thumbs: :thumbs:
I'm pretty bad with names so I had to keep a notebook handy when I read it to write down new characters and what they did. He'll go a 100 pages not talking about some dude and them bam there is he again and you're like wait WTF is this guy again?
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2013, 09:10:57 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
:thumbs:
Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!
:thumbs: :thumbs:
I'm pretty bad with names so I had to keep a notebook handy when I read it to write down new characters and what they did. He'll go a 100 pages not talking about some dude and them bam there is he again and you're like wait WTF is this guy again?
I keep my phone handy and google the random places they were finding oil, they use old timey names like borneo and baku instead of Indonesia and Azerbaijan. I know the general location of those places but it really helps to pinpoint them on the map.
Just got to the part where they start talking about the beginning of the Russian Revolution and how Stalin got his start organizing the oil workers into unions. :excited:
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 20, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower. Has anyone read? My bro said it's a must read. also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846
Read monstering and hubris and Woodward's books. That one I heard was good too. I think I may have gone a little nuts post 9/11 and Iraq war era current events reading.
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Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 26, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 26, 2013, 07:28:03 PM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower. Has anyone read? My bro said it's a must read. also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846
Read monstering and hubris and Woodward's books. That one I heard was good too. I think I may have gone a little nuts post 9/11 and Iraq war era current events reading.
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would you recommend any of those? Looming Tower is very good so far. It is pretty much just a collection of facts pulled from the 50 years preceding 9/11 and organized into a narrative describing the confluence of events on both sides which culminated in the attack. The book is colored by the author's perspective here and there, but it is usually pretty clear when he is reading between the lines.
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 06:27:18 AM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower. Has anyone read? My bro said it's a must read. also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846
Read monstering and hubris and Woodward's books. That one I heard was good too. I think I may have gone a little nuts post 9/11 and Iraq war era current events reading.
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I actually had a better experience reading things Said and Lewis wrote before 9/11. And if you can get a copy, Habib's "Warriors of Islam" is rough ridin' fantastic (but it's out of print and the CIA bought up most of the copies).
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 06:27:52 AM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Also :love:
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 08:06:37 AM
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 08:43:38 AM
Ibn Sa'ud's Warriors of Islam: The Ikhwan of Najd and Their Role in the Creation of the Sa'udi Kingdom, 1910-1930
I could never find one and eventually had a mutual professional acquaintance ask him for a copy.
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2013, 08:49:30 AM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Also :love:
Pretty great so far. If I could have any person review it, I would probably choose David Duke. Jews scheming/cheating black people in an Irish-controlled city.
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 11:23:03 AM
What about it made the CIA get all CIA'ey?
They bought up copies for their own internal training courses.
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 02:49:27 PM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Also :love:
Pretty great so far. If I could have any person review it, I would probably choose David Duke. Jews scheming/cheating black people in an Irish-controlled city.
I WILL READ THIS TOO.
The problem with books is there are so many and so little time. That's why I'm glad we have this thread, friends.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2013, 02:58:29 PM
Post by: felix rex on March 28, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Also :love:
Pretty great so far. If I could have any person review it, I would probably choose David Duke. Jews scheming/cheating black people in an Irish-controlled city.
I WILL READ THIS TOO.
The problem with books is there are so many and so little time. That's why I'm glad we have this thread, friends.
YES! I would have never seen this book but now I'm absolutely gonna read it. Thanks, KK.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2013, 10:41:22 AM
This book by Venkatesh got me interested in the subject after Freakanomics referenced the salaries of drug dealers. "Off the books" is one of my favorite books ever.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 31, 2013, 04:08:38 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Off-Books-Underground-Economy-Urban/dp/0674023552/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207624317&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Off-Books-Underground-Economy-Urban/dp/0674023552/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207624317&sr=8-2)
This book by Venkatesh got me interested in the subject after Freakanomics referenced the salaries of drug dealers. "Off the books" is one of my favorite books ever.
Racist Goldbrick thread just pushed me over the edge to buy this. Might be a couple month's til I have time to read it, but oh well.
Post by: ben ji on April 18, 2013, 06:41:13 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
:thumbs:
Finally getting to the end of this 800 page monstrosity and they are talking about T Boone Pickens. I had never heard of the guy before he started throwing cash at OSU but he was/is a freaking baller.
He was a pretty small player up until the 80's when there was a surplus of Oil and Oil companies stocks were depressed and undervalued. XYZ Oil companies would have a market cap of say 300 million but proven reserves worth 900 million so he would buy the company. After a couple of times the big major oil companies caught on so he switched tactics.
The big whammy was when Gulf Oil was undervalued....He secretly bought around 25% of the shares of Gulf Oil when the price was around $40 and made a takeover bid at $62 a share. He knew that this was stupid low but it started a bidding war for Gulf Oil among the bigger oil companies and they were eventually bought out by Chevron at $80 a share....T Boone made a cool $760 million(pretax) on the deal. :sdeek:
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 19, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2013, 04:48:06 PM
Any good modern fiction?
Post by: Demo158 on April 19, 2013, 04:57:31 PM
Yeah there's no way the movie will be able to encompass even a quarter of the stories told in the book. One of those that should've just been left alone :facepalm:I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.
Loved the book but I just know they will butcher the movie. IIRC it has been in "Development" for like 2 years now....FIGURE IT OUT BRAD PITT :shakesfist:
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
Yeah there's no way the movie will be able to encompass even a quarter of the stories told in the book. One of those that should've just been left alone :facepalm:I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.
Loved the book but I just know they will butcher the movie. IIRC it has been in "Development" for like 2 years now....FIGURE IT OUT BRAD PITT :shakesfist:
Or done as a tv series? (haven't read, but maybe!)
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 19, 2013, 05:00:06 PM
Post by: CHONGS on April 19, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
I got bored with Sotweed Factor. It kind of reminded me of Confederacy of Dunces but didn't quite grab me after 250 pages or so.Sounds like Nicholas Sparks might be more your speed. :mean:
Any good modern fiction?
Post by: kim carnes on April 19, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2013, 10:52:17 PM
I got bored with Sotweed Factor. It kind of reminded me of Confederacy of Dunces but didn't quite grab me after 250 pages or so.Sounds like Nicholas Sparks might be more your speed. :mean:
Any good modern fiction?
It was really very funny and the dialogue was great. Just took too long to go anywhere. I may try it again sometime.
Post by: CHONGS on April 19, 2013, 10:56:11 PM
hey chingon, what is it like to read and yet still be so simple minded?Dunno Kim why don't you tell me.
Ooh burn. Ice burn. Cold blooded.
Post by: kim carnes on April 19, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
hey chingon, what is it like to read and yet still be so simple minded?Dunno Kim why don't you tell me.
Ooh burn. Ice burn. Cold blooded.
i couldn't tell you. my question was serious.
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2013, 12:14:25 AM
http://www.amazon.com/The-Brothers-David-James-Duncan/dp/055337849X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366953032&sr=8-1&keywords=brothers+k
Also reading some Allan Watts and it's pretty disappointing so far.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Wisdom-Insecurity-Message-Anxiety/dp/0307741206/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1366953238&sr=8-4&keywords=age+of+anxiety
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 29, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming freshmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?
Hey real life friend. I was just about to ask the same question! me--> :cool: :cool: <--you Comes highly recommended to me from a friend but I've never been into much that could be seen as Sci Fi'y. Thoughts, buddies?
Also, one of the best books I have ever read is Middlesex, by Jeffrey Eugenides. One of the worst books I have ever read is his follow-up, which came out last year, The Marriage Plot. Highly disappointing considering how brilliant its predecessor was.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 29, 2013, 07:51:39 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming freshmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?
Hey real life friend. I was just about to ask the same question! me--> :cool: :cool: <--you Comes highly recommended to me from a friend but I've never been into much that could be seen as Sci Fi'y. Thoughts, buddies?
Also, one of the best books I have ever read is Middlesex, by Jeffrey Eugenides. One of the worst books I have ever read is his follow-up, which came out last year, The Marriage Plot. Highly disappointing considering how brilliant its predecessor was.
My mom read Middlesex. She reads a lot of Oprah book club books.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 29, 2013, 10:56:27 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on May 13, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 13, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
i've one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week :embarrassed:
I had to read it for high school. I didn't really like it then, but I'd probably like it more if I read it today. :dunno:
Post by: 'taterblast on May 13, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
i've one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week :embarrassed:
I had to read it for high school. I didn't really like it then, but I'd probably like it more if I read it today. :dunno:
yep, same. didn't really pay attention to it when it was required reading (shocker), but it's a quick read and good.
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2013, 01:17:34 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 13, 2013, 01:21:25 PM
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Anyone else get shocked at the books their wife's hayseed school didn't make them read?
yes, all of them
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2013, 02:21:32 PM
i've one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week :embarrassed:
I had to read it for high school. I didn't really like it then, but I'd probably like it more if I read it today. :dunno:
Same. Went back and read it again about 5 yrs ago. I liked it quite a bit. Not deep, but a good read.
Also, it's a good idea to give several of the hated HS required reads a second look. Used to absolutely hate Stienbeck in HS, but he is one of my favs now.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 13, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s. Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped. Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"
Really hoping Libby or the other recently escaped Phelps daughters does this. Would probably be pretty interesting/disturbing. Would make them some dece money now that their family has disowned them.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 13, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s. Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped. Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"
Really hoping Libby or the other recently escaped Phelps daughters does this. Would probably be pretty interesting/disturbing. Would make them some dece money now that their family has disowned them.
It seems interesting but now that I've read this one, I don't know what the point is. I mean, what in that book is really going to surprise you?
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s. Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped. Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"
Really hoping Libby or the other recently escaped Phelps daughters does this. Would probably be pretty interesting/disturbing. Would make them some dece money now that their family has disowned them.
It seems interesting but now that I've read this one, I don't know what the point is. I mean, what in that book is really going to surprise you?
Nothing, probably. I mean, that group seems so messed up I would believe pretty much anything about them. Would just be interesting to read a point of view perspective about something that deeply screwed up with the contrast of no longer believing it. I don't have to be surprised to be interested.
The two should do it more for the money than my interest, though.
Post by: KSUblumpkin on May 13, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
Post by: felix rex on May 15, 2013, 08:06:18 AM
Quote
Renowned author Dan Brown woke up in his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house – and immediately he felt angry. Most people would have thought that the 48-year-old man had no reason to be angry. After all, the famous writer had a new book coming out. But that was the problem. A new book meant an inevitable attack on the rich novelist by the wealthy wordsmith’s fiercest foes. The critics.
Renowned author Dan Brown hated the critics. Ever since he had become one of the world’s top renowned authors they had made fun of him. They had mocked bestselling book The Da Vinci Code, successful novel Digital Fortress, popular tome Deception Point, money-spinning volume Angels & Demons and chart-topping work of narrative fiction The Lost Symbol.
The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical, repetitive and repetitive. They said it was full of unnecessary tautology. They said his prose was swamped in a sea of mixed metaphors. For some reason they found something funny in sentences such as “His eyes went white, like a shark about to attack.” They even say my books are packed with banal and superfluous description, thought the 5ft 9in man. He particularly hated it when they said his imagery was nonsensical. It made his insect eyes flash like a rocket.
Renowned author Dan Brown got out of his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house and paced the bedroom, using the feet located at the ends of his two legs to propel him forwards. He knew he shouldn’t care what a few jealous critics thought. His new book Inferno was coming out on Tuesday, and the 480-page hardback published by Doubleday with a recommended US retail price of $29.95 was sure to be a hit. Wasn’t it?
I’ll call my agent, pondered the prosperous scribe. He reached for the telephone using one of his two hands. “Hello, this is renowned author Dan Brown,” spoke renowned author Dan Brown. “I want to talk to literary agent John Unconvincingname.”
“Mr Unconvincingname, it’s renowned author Dan Brown,” told the voice at the other end of the line. Instantly the voice at the other end of the line was replaced by a different voice at the other end of the line. “Hello, it’s literary agent John Unconvincingname,” informed the new voice at the other end of the line.
“Hello agent John, it’s client Dan,” commented the pecunious scribbler. “I’m worried about new book Inferno. I think critics are going to say it’s badly written.”
The voice at the other end of the line gave a sigh, like a mighty oak toppling into a great river, or something else that didn’t sound like a sigh if you gave it a moment’s thought. “Who cares what the stupid critics say?” advised the literary agent. “They’re just snobs. You have millions of fans.”
That’s true, mused the accomplished composer of thrillers that combined religion, high culture and conspiracy theories. His books were read by everyone from renowned politician President Obama to renowned musician Britney Spears. It was said that a copy of The Da Vinci Code had even found its way into the hands of renowned monarch the Queen. He was grateful for his good fortune, and gave thanks every night in his prayers to renowned deity God.
“Think of all the money you’ve made,” recommended the literary agent. That was true too. The thriving ink-slinger’s wealth had allowed him to indulge his passion for great art. Among his proudest purchases were a specially commissioned landscape by acclaimed painter Vincent van Gogh and a signed first edition by revered scriptwriter William Shakespeare.
Renowned author Dan Brown smiled, the ends of his mouth curving upwards in a physical expression of pleasure. He felt much better. If your books brought innocent delight to millions of readers, what did it matter whether you knew the difference between a transitive and an intransitive verb?
“Thanks, John,” he thanked. Then he put down the telephone and perambulated on foot to the desk behind which he habitually sat on a chair to write his famous books on an Apple iMac MD093B/A computer. New book Inferno, the latest in his celebrated series about fictional Harvard professor Robert Langdon, was inspired by top Italian poet Dante. It wouldn’t be the last in the lucrative sequence, either. He had all the sequels mapped out. The Mozart Acrostic. The Michelangelo Wordsearch. The Newton Sudoku.
The 190lb adult male human being nodded his head to indicate satisfaction and returned to his bedroom by walking there. Still asleep in the luxurious four-poster bed of the expensive $10 million house was beautiful wife Mrs Brown. Renowned author Dan Brown gazed admiringly at the pulchritudinous brunette’s blonde tresses, flowing from her head like a stream but made from hair instead of water and without any fish in. She was as majestic as the finest sculpture by Caravaggio or the most coveted portrait by Rodin. I like the attractive woman, thought the successful man.
Perhaps one day, inspired by beautiful wife Mrs Brown, he would move into romantic poetry, like market-leading British rhymester John Keats. That would be good, opined the talented person, and got back into the luxurious four-poster bed. He felt as happy as a man who has something to be happy about and is suitably happy about it.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 15, 2013, 08:18:27 AM
The mistake was intentional, critics.
Post by: Rams on May 15, 2013, 08:22:40 AM
Review of Dan Brown's "Inferno":that's great. also makes me feel better for not reading any of his books. :sdeek:QuoteRenowned author Dan Brown woke up in his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house – and immediately he felt angry. Most people would have thought that the 48-year-old man had no reason to be angry. After all, the famous writer had a new book coming out. But that was the problem. A new book meant an inevitable attack on the rich novelist by the wealthy wordsmith’s fiercest foes. The critics.
Renowned author Dan Brown hated the critics. Ever since he had become one of the world’s top renowned authors they had made fun of him. They had mocked bestselling book The Da Vinci Code, successful novel Digital Fortress, popular tome Deception Point, money-spinning volume Angels & Demons and chart-topping work of narrative fiction The Lost Symbol.
The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical, repetitive and repetitive. They said it was full of unnecessary tautology. They said his prose was swamped in a sea of mixed metaphors. For some reason they found something funny in sentences such as “His eyes went white, like a shark about to attack.” They even say my books are packed with banal and superfluous description, thought the 5ft 9in man. He particularly hated it when they said his imagery was nonsensical. It made his insect eyes flash like a rocket.
Renowned author Dan Brown got out of his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house and paced the bedroom, using the feet located at the ends of his two legs to propel him forwards. He knew he shouldn’t care what a few jealous critics thought. His new book Inferno was coming out on Tuesday, and the 480-page hardback published by Doubleday with a recommended US retail price of $29.95 was sure to be a hit. Wasn’t it?
I’ll call my agent, pondered the prosperous scribe. He reached for the telephone using one of his two hands. “Hello, this is renowned author Dan Brown,” spoke renowned author Dan Brown. “I want to talk to literary agent John Unconvincingname.”
“Mr Unconvincingname, it’s renowned author Dan Brown,” told the voice at the other end of the line. Instantly the voice at the other end of the line was replaced by a different voice at the other end of the line. “Hello, it’s literary agent John Unconvincingname,” informed the new voice at the other end of the line.
“Hello agent John, it’s client Dan,” commented the pecunious scribbler. “I’m worried about new book Inferno. I think critics are going to say it’s badly written.”
The voice at the other end of the line gave a sigh, like a mighty oak toppling into a great river, or something else that didn’t sound like a sigh if you gave it a moment’s thought. “Who cares what the stupid critics say?” advised the literary agent. “They’re just snobs. You have millions of fans.”
That’s true, mused the accomplished composer of thrillers that combined religion, high culture and conspiracy theories. His books were read by everyone from renowned politician President Obama to renowned musician Britney Spears. It was said that a copy of The Da Vinci Code had even found its way into the hands of renowned monarch the Queen. He was grateful for his good fortune, and gave thanks every night in his prayers to renowned deity God.
“Think of all the money you’ve made,” recommended the literary agent. That was true too. The thriving ink-slinger’s wealth had allowed him to indulge his passion for great art. Among his proudest purchases were a specially commissioned landscape by acclaimed painter Vincent van Gogh and a signed first edition by revered scriptwriter William Shakespeare.
Renowned author Dan Brown smiled, the ends of his mouth curving upwards in a physical expression of pleasure. He felt much better. If your books brought innocent delight to millions of readers, what did it matter whether you knew the difference between a transitive and an intransitive verb?
“Thanks, John,” he thanked. Then he put down the telephone and perambulated on foot to the desk behind which he habitually sat on a chair to write his famous books on an Apple iMac MD093B/A computer. New book Inferno, the latest in his celebrated series about fictional Harvard professor Robert Langdon, was inspired by top Italian poet Dante. It wouldn’t be the last in the lucrative sequence, either. He had all the sequels mapped out. The Mozart Acrostic. The Michelangelo Wordsearch. The Newton Sudoku.
The 190lb adult male human being nodded his head to indicate satisfaction and returned to his bedroom by walking there. Still asleep in the luxurious four-poster bed of the expensive $10 million house was beautiful wife Mrs Brown. Renowned author Dan Brown gazed admiringly at the pulchritudinous brunette’s blonde tresses, flowing from her head like a stream but made from hair instead of water and without any fish in. She was as majestic as the finest sculpture by Caravaggio or the most coveted portrait by Rodin. I like the attractive woman, thought the successful man.
Perhaps one day, inspired by beautiful wife Mrs Brown, he would move into romantic poetry, like market-leading British rhymester John Keats. That would be good, opined the talented person, and got back into the luxurious four-poster bed. He felt as happy as a man who has something to be happy about and is suitably happy about it.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 15, 2013, 08:26:47 AM
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 24, 2013, 02:46:12 PM
i just finished The Bros. Karamazov. it was fantastic.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 24, 2013, 02:47:58 PM
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Post by: The1BigWillie on May 24, 2013, 02:51:55 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 26, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
Life Before Life
the eff? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Before_Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Before_Life)
Post by: Panjandrum on May 27, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
light fun quick easy reads. how awful.
They are good on a plane. That's where I've read all of the Langdon books.
I have a hard time concentrating on planes. I just need a mindless page turner. Brown works in that spot.
Post by: sys on May 27, 2013, 01:02:07 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 28, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Looks really depressing.
I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 10, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild. Need something to read now. Worth it? Am I too old?
worth it. it's only 84 pages.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 10, 2013, 01:12:27 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild. Need something to read now. Worth it? Am I too old?
I enjoyed it in my mid 20s. If you like "20 something wandering aimlessly because he doesn't know what his purpose is and can't stand working a 9-5" type books, then you'll like it fine.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 10, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild. Need something to read now. Worth it? Am I too old?
I enjoyed it in my mid 20s. If you like "20 something wandering aimlessly because he doesn't know what his purpose is and can't stand working a 9-5" type books, then you'll like it fine.
are you thinking of Into the Wild?
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2013, 01:24:50 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild. Need something to read now. Worth it? Am I too old?
worth it. it's only 84 pages.
Practically a short story, thanks. :thumbs:
Post by: ChiComCat on June 10, 2013, 01:31:25 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild. Need something to read now. Worth it? Am I too old?
I enjoyed it in my mid 20s. If you like "20 something wandering aimlessly because he doesn't know what his purpose is and can't stand working a 9-5" type books, then you'll like it fine.
are you thinking of Into the Wild?
MAYBE!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:32:08 PM
Just started Pendulum. The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.
No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.
Hang in there, Casey. It's all worthwhile.
I read it a couple of months ago. While not the worst thing I've read, I felt a little let down after the hype here. Very plodding storyline.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:33:32 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming fresmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?
very fun read
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 10, 2013, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: felix rex on June 10, 2013, 01:34:27 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
columbine, by dave cullen. 2/3rds though it. VERY interesting. i was basicly the same age as these kids when this happened, and high school me identifies a lot with dylan. it's amazing how much misinformation about the event is still out there. it's also super sad at parts, i've literally had to put it down 2-3 times because i was all :cry: :bawl: :cry: (kinda embarrassing on a plane TBH).
the parts describing what their overall plan, and if they had any knowledge of fuse making at all were the most surprising to me, because i had never heard anything about it in the media. the overall body count would have likely been three to four hundred if they had fused their bombs correctly. pretty stunning.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:39:47 PM
was Pendulum not worthwhile, Mikey?
I'm glad I read it, but man, some of those long passages from the diary got to be rough. More than once I'd wake up and realize I fell asleep. the first half and the last quarter wasn't as bad. I did enjoy the book publisher games though.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:41:43 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:43:09 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2013, 01:44:55 PM
http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0140298517
Post by: CNS on June 10, 2013, 02:31:21 PM
Just started Pendulum. The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.
No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.
Hang in there, Casey. It's all worthwhile.
I read it a couple of months ago. While not the worst thing I've read, I felt a little let down after the hype here. Very plodding storyline.
I stopped and read something else, then just came back to it and finished about two weeks ago. I read in very short amts of time(10-30pgs) then stop, and do this often. I found it pretty hard to get through the middle third of the book, but really liked the end of the book. I have three or four other books lined up right now but am planning to read Baudilino(SP) after that.
Post by: CNS on June 10, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
while I liked DaVinci Code, and even more so Angels & Demons, Inferno was a let down. Much of the plot was too contrived for my tastes. I know it's "summer reading" but it felt kind of phoned in\, even for Dan Brown.
Welp. Bought this a week ago and planned on blowing it up next week.
Hopefully the lowered expectations will help me enjoy it more. That said, I really didn't like the last one he did.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 10, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.
Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published? He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence.
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2013, 03:06:21 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.
Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published? He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence.
I did. Also, great book.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 10, 2013, 03:22:16 PM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Looks really depressing.
I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.
I am about the same spot and yeah. It is incredible isn't it?
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2013, 03:29:32 PM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Looks really depressing.
I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.
I am about the same spot and yeah. It is incredible isn't it?
yeah. I read it on Bart and with a heavy dose of of white guilt.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 10, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
I just ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Looks really depressing.
I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.
I am about the same spot and yeah. It is incredible isn't it?
yeah. I read it on Bart and with a heavy dose of of white guilt.
Haha. I was going to read Democracy in America, but it is too long. So I started on Plato's Republic. It is great. His first piece of advice is from an old man that says that the secret pleasure of getting old is that you stop trying to chase women because your penis no longer works. Not what I expected.
Post by: Jabeez on June 10, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.
Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published? He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence.
I did. Also, great book.
Oh man, all the scenes with the flamboyantly gay Dorian guy, those were the best. Funny book.
Post by: chum1 on July 01, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on July 02, 2013, 08:36:53 AM
A History of the World in 100 objects
Worth a flip through if not a read. It isn't perfect (it is limited to items in the British Museum) but there are some really fascinating things in there and some really moving descriptions of some of the older items.
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 02, 2013, 09:27:04 AM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.
Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published? He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence.
I actually did know that!
Post by: CHONGS on July 02, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2013, 10:23:50 AM
Also reading Inner Game of Tennis.
Post by: DQ12 on July 02, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
Did you finish it Mocat????You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great. :D
Oh man, if you like the first 80pgs, you will really love the last 100 or so. :excited:
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Post by: felix rex on July 02, 2013, 11:13:11 PM
Really interesting book by the British Museum:
A History of the World in 100 objects
Worth a flip through if not a read. It isn't perfect (it is limited to items in the British Museum) but there are some really fascinating things in there and some really moving descriptions of some of the older items.
This sounds great.
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 12:30:58 AM
Post by: Cire on August 13, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
Really interesting book by the British Museum:
A History of the World in 100 objects
Worth a flip through if not a read. It isn't perfect (it is limited to items in the British Museum) but there are some really fascinating things in there and some really moving descriptions of some of the older items.
This sounds great.
Post by: CNS on August 13, 2013, 10:21:08 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:40:47 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
Post by: steve dave on August 13, 2013, 10:46:50 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
watch out rusty :frown:
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Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
watch out rusty :frown:QuoteYet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:
Post by: ben ji on August 13, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Skimmed the wikipedia page and it seems very similiar to "Jennifer Government" in regards to the themes of mega corporations. Jennifer Government kinda sucked though.
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:53:55 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Skimmed the wikipedia page and it seems very similiar to "Jennifer Government" in regards to the themes of mega corporations. Jennifer Government kinda sucked though.
corporations have very, very little to do with the plot about halfway through. The politics are a little slapstick and ridiculous, but I really don't mind. It's just how the book's world is.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 13, 2013, 10:55:23 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
watch out rusty :frown:QuoteYet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:
do they have 29 hour days in almeda? how in gods name do you have the time to do all the stuff you do? drugs?
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
watch out rusty :frown:QuoteYet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:
do they have 29 hour days in almeda? how in gods name do you have the time to do all the stuff you do? drugs?
I've read like 400 pages in 6 weeks. :dunno:
(you can tell from the dates and pace that the beginning of the book is the end)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 13, 2013, 10:58:24 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
watch out rusty :frown:QuoteYet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:
do they have 29 hour days in almeda? how in gods name do you have the time to do all the stuff you do? drugs?
I've read like 400 pages in 6 weeks. :dunno:
(you can tell from the dates and pace that the beginning of the book is the end)
so not drugs? seems like maybe drugs.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 13, 2013, 11:02:48 AM
Post by: felix rex on August 13, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 11:59:34 AM
Post by: felix rex on August 13, 2013, 01:05:31 PM
Post by: ben ji on August 13, 2013, 01:08:22 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 13, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
Post by: CNS on August 14, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
I liked it much more than I thought I would given the format. Would def recommend.
Post by: ew2x4 on August 14, 2013, 08:37:20 PM
Post by: CNS on August 19, 2013, 05:15:40 PM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?
One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.
A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.
I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
watch out rusty :frown:QuoteYet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:
Trying this one now. Three chapters in and I am intrigued. Especially by Hal.
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
Post by: ew2x4 on August 19, 2013, 06:03:41 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
I'm about half way through Wool Omnibus. I'm really into it. The first "book" really got to me.
I actually just read this last week. Pretty good story, but sometimes his descriptions of details is a little thesaurus-y and over the top. And we get it, they're climbing lots of stairs, thanks author guy.
Post by: ew2x4 on August 20, 2013, 12:03:45 AM
I'm about half way through Wool Omnibus. I'm really into it. The first "book" really got to me.
I actually just read this last week. Pretty good story, but sometimes his descriptions of details is a little thesaurus-y and over the top. And we get it, they're climbing lots of stairs, thanks author guy.
I just got done with all the stairs. What was that guy thinking? Besides that, the author is great with characters. Agree with the details though.
Are you going to read the two sequels?
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
The review on Amazon says that this book isn't for someone who can't devote continued amts of time to it. That is the truth. I don't touch it for days, then pick it up and JFC, what was happening again? I am going to back burner this one until I can own it on a trip or something.
Starting The Son now. will report back. It follows multiple gens of one family through time in Texas from settling it to now. Sounds lame saying it like that, but it has pretty dece reviews.
Post by: ben ji on September 16, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Which chapters have the best stories? Can I skip around or does it all kinda go in order?
Thanks, I'll listen off air.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:08:23 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
Infinite Jest. I like it, but just can't do it right now.
The review on Amazon says that this book isn't for someone who can't devote continued amts of time to it. That is the truth. I don't touch it for days, then pick it up and JFC, what was happening again? I am going to back burner this one until I can own it on a trip or something.
Starting The Son now. will report back. It follows multiple gens of one family through time in Texas from settling it to now. Sounds lame saying it like that, but it has pretty dece reviews.
How far did you get?
Personally, I need to be able to put it down from time to time. I can't just sit down and read it for 2 hours. I can maybe read it for 30-45 minutes before I have to do something else.
The reread is interesting, I'm picking up a lot of foretelling and info I missed the first time through.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 16, 2013, 03:19:04 PM
also about 50 pages into Grisham- The Racketeer. pretty good so far...
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2013, 03:19:15 PM
Infinite Jest. I like it, but just can't do it right now.
The review on Amazon says that this book isn't for someone who can't devote continued amts of time to it. That is the truth. I don't touch it for days, then pick it up and JFC, what was happening again? I am going to back burner this one until I can own it on a trip or something.
Starting The Son now. will report back. It follows multiple gens of one family through time in Texas from settling it to now. Sounds lame saying it like that, but it has pretty dece reviews.
How far did you get?
Personally, I need to be able to put it down from time to time. I can't just sit down and read it for 2 hours. I can maybe read it for 30-45 minutes before I have to do something else.
The reread is interesting, I'm picking up a lot of foretelling and info I missed the first time through.
Only like 60 pages or so. Just started it at a bad time when I had a bunch of other stuff going.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
just finished Lee Child- One Shot (book the movie Jack Reacher is based off)- very good book. will read more Reacher novels.
also about 50 pages into Grisham- The Racketeer. pretty good so far...
Michael Connelly is also a good author in the vein of Lee Child.
Also, the Straw Men books by Michael Marshall are good reads.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 16, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 02, 2013, 09:16:52 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.
Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.
Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.
Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
:thumbs:
Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!
Really enjoyed "The Prize" and just started on his follow up "The Quest"
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.imagesbn.com%2Fp%2F9781101523582_p0_v1_s260x420.JPG&hash=fe04ecc791719d634a76fc3194f2e5fbb89b7d0a)
2 chapters in and LOVING IT.
Post by: Fedor on October 02, 2013, 09:44:36 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 02, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker? The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...
I read the first half of that book a few years ago. Then I moved, and when I unpacked could never find the book. I enjoyed what I read and might get the kindle version.
Post by: CNS on October 02, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Post by: Fedor on October 02, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
Finish it out! The full story arc is amazing to contemplate at the end of the series.Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker? The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...
I read the first half of that book a few years ago. Then I moved, and when I unpacked could never find the book. I enjoyed what I read and might get the kindle version.
Post by: CHONGS on October 02, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker? The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...
Sounds like it might be good and all the books in the series are out. (I have way too many series that I've started and now have to wait for more books.)
So I tried to see if the library had this book. No, they just have this one:
"Devices and desires : a history of contraceptives in America"
http://books.google.com/books/about/Devices_and_Desires.html?id=Im8RdEyDX8cC
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:25:16 PM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker? The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...
Sounds like it might be good and all the books in the series are out. (I have way too many series that I've started and now have to wait for more books.)
So I tried to see if the library had this book. No, they just have this one:
"Devices and desires : a history of contraceptives in America"
http://books.google.com/books/about/Devices_and_Desires.html?id=Im8RdEyDX8cC
Well, was it a good read or not?
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
Started reading Sleep Doctor this week. It is the sequel to The Shining. About a quarter of the way in and it is a fast read. It has potential, but S hasn't gotten real yet, so we will see.
so King is basically just collecting checks nowadays. I mean, I am not done with this yet, but I am like 75% through it and it isn't bad, it just isn't anything. It reads quick when you have the time, but I didn't' touch this for quite some time and didn't really miss it. Overall, so far, it's a mild meh.
Post by: michigancat on October 14, 2013, 03:15:04 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)
Didn't I already post this one? Good read for sure. On the drive to Phoenix I told the entire RV the story of Kit Carson. Showed them Mt Taylor on the drive by, etc.
finally reading this, it's pretty great. I've been to Fremont Peak before. Man, what a jackass that guy was.
Also Kit Carson holy crap what a stud.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 14, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2013, 07:37:52 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Buffalito-Destiny-Adventures-Amazing-Conroy-ebook/dp/B00ATJJISM/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1383744831&sr=1-9 (http://www.amazon.com/Buffalito-Destiny-Adventures-Amazing-Conroy-ebook/dp/B00ATJJISM/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1383744831&sr=1-9)
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 07, 2013, 11:58:11 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 07, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
Started reading Sleep Doctor this week. It is the sequel to The Shining. About a quarter of the way in and it is a fast read. It has potential, but S hasn't gotten real yet, so we will see.
so King is basically just collecting checks nowadays. I mean, I am not done with this yet, but I am like 75% through it and it isn't bad, it just isn't anything. It reads quick when you have the time, but I didn't' touch this for quite some time and didn't really miss it. Overall, so far, it's a mild meh.
yeah, I had similar feelings. Interesting concept, but to be honest I was never a huge fan of the Shining either.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 07, 2013, 12:06:16 PM
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10112885-night-film
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
I think I am going to give El Narco or Over The Edge of The World a shot next.
Post by: raquetcat on November 07, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on November 07, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.
Have you read any of his other stuff other than Gates of Fire? If so, what and would recommend?
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 07, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.
Have you read any of his other stuff other than Gates of Fire? If so, what and would recommend?
I have not read any of his other work. The Legend of Bagger Vance, Gates of Fire and The Virtues of War are all on my reading list. I'm planning on picking one to read over winter break when I don't have any required reading for school.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 07, 2013, 02:39:30 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 07, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
does anyone read the Alex Cross- Patterson series? picked up one a few weeks ago at the airport and cant get into it. also isnt that the movie that like ice cub acted in??
whoops, tyler perry.
Post by: Tobias on November 07, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
does anyone read the Alex Cross- Patterson series? picked up one a few weeks ago at the airport and cant get into it. also isnt that the movie that like ice cub acted in??
whoops, tyler perry.
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2013, 04:03:05 PM
never read any of the books tho ;)
Post by: Mr Bread on November 07, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.
Have you read any of his other stuff other than Gates of Fire? If so, what and would recommend?
I have not read any of his other work. The Legend of Bagger Vance, Gates of Fire and The Virtues of War are all on my reading list. I'm planning on picking one to read over winter break when I don't have any required reading for school.
I would suggest stop reading the self-help one right now and immediately begin reading Gates of Fire instead. Very enjoyable.
Post by: CHONGS on November 07, 2013, 05:40:21 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2013, 06:23:28 PM
MadAddam trilogy? Not very good...
Damnit. Just started.
Post by: Pete on November 07, 2013, 06:31:52 PM
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Post by: CNS on December 02, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 02, 2013, 04:29:56 PM
Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
Post by: 8manpick on December 03, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 04:07:25 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.
Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 03, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2013, 04:21:48 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.
Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
Do you have a kindle? I wish I had it on a kindle because of the endnotes. Of course I have three bookmarks so it isn't too bad.
Slightly OT - should I get a kindle? I like the library because I'm cheap, but it's hard to take books like Infinite Jest with me everywhere.
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Yes I do. You can rent books through most libraries with a kindle as well. If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to break one day.Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.
Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
Do you have a kindle? I wish I had it on a kindle because of the endnotes. Of course I have three bookmarks so it isn't too bad.
Slightly OT - should I get a kindle? I like the library because I'm cheap, but it's hard to take books like Infinite Jest with me everywhere.
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to break one day.
well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.
Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
Do you have a kindle? I wish I had it on a kindle because of the end notes. Of course I have three bookmarks so it isn't too bad.
Slightly OT - should I get a kindle? I like the library because I'm cheap, but it's hard to take books like Infinite Jest with me everywhere.
So, here is the one kindle flaw. I have the HD Fire as well as an old school original. Both of them sync to the Amazon cloud acct. My smart phone does as well. The way all the devices you use to read any one book sync to the cloud is by reporting what the furthest point you have read to is. So, when you tap the end note number, it takes you to the back of the book where the end notes are. So, then you sync, and boom, Amazon cloud syncs as if you have read the entire book back to whatever that end note was making it a huge pain to pick up the smart phone and read when you find a chance. Also, usually, when you click the end note, you can read it and hit the back button to go back to where you were in the story. However, often, the back button backs you out of the book all together and not back to the correct place in the story.
Then, guess what, you open the book back up again, and it acts like you have read they whole damn thing and takes you to the middle of the end notes. You end up having to remember what page or "location" you end at every time you stop reading then tell the next device you happen to pick the book back up on what page or location to go to.
Not a huge deal, just a little bit of a pain in the ass. Especially on big books.
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 04:32:36 PM
If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to break one day.
well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
In the last two yrs, I have read probably close to a third of every book I have read during that time period on my amazon app on my phone while waiting for something(kids soccer practice, customers to show up for meetings, oil changes, etc).
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
I should add that I use the original and don't have a case or anything. They are shockingly small (or at least seemed that way when I got it like 5 years ago.)If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to break one day.
well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 04:52:02 PM
I should add that I use the original and don't have a case or anything. They are shockingly small (or at least seemed that way when I got it like 5 years ago.)If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to break one day.
well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
I have a case that has a built in reading light for my original. I still prefer using it when I know I will be reading and not bbs'n and reading.
Post by: Brock Landers on December 03, 2013, 05:01:34 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson. Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.
I have read the book but not yet seen the movie :D I'm glad there was a glossary of all the mountain climbing terms used.
Post by: 8manpick on December 03, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson. Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.
I have read the book but not yet seen the movie :D I'm glad there was a glossary of all the mountain climbing terms used.
Should have just taken GEOG 600 (best class at KSU? Maybe) with Dr. Kevin Blake and you would have known most of them already! :D
Post by: 8manpick on December 03, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
Hmm. I really liked Tipping Point and Outliers a lot too. Haven't read D&G though.Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 03, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson. Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.
Good book. Also like the John Krakauer books.
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2013, 07:28:03 PM
I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.
the paperwhite is a big upgrade over the regular kindle?
Post by: CHONGS on December 03, 2013, 07:51:38 PM
It's pretty great.I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.
the paperwhite is a big upgrade over the regular kindle?
Post by: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.
the paperwhite is a big upgrade over the regular kindle?
yes, it's worth it imo. the built in lighting is uniform and very easy on the eyes. no glare. no need for a lamp at night. very responsive touch screen. only thing I had to get used to is not touching the screen while reading. I had become used to doing this with my old kindle. but, it was only bothersome for a week or so.
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2013, 09:19:19 AM
Post by: big e z on December 05, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
Another light read that's pretty good is Kevin Hearne's Iron Druid Chronicles.
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
For those that enjoyed the Reacher novels (Lee Child) and Harry Bosch series (Michael Connelly), try John Sandford, both the Lucas Davenport series and the Virgil Flowers books. Also liked David Baldacci Camel Club series and King and Maxwell books. Just started in on Harlan Coben. Read the Myron Bolitar books, thought they were OK.
Another light read that's pretty good is Kevin Hearne's Iron Druid Chronicles.
I have not heard of any of that
Post by: big e z on December 05, 2013, 12:24:32 PM
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on December 05, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 09, 2013, 03:54:20 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on December 09, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.
just started d&g. seemed interesting.
Post by: Pete on December 09, 2013, 10:26:47 PM
Post by: Cire on December 10, 2013, 09:02:26 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind. I like it. It's in the fantasy genre. I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago. It's strangely satisfying.
I'm really into it too Pete. I am currently reading American Gods. It's okay. You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books. They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs. The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes. eff that is a great read. You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more. Do it!
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind. I like it. It's in the fantasy genre. I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago. It's strangely satisfying.
I'm really into it too Pete. I am currently reading American Gods. It's okay. You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books. They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs. The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes. eff that is a great read. You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more. Do it!
I bought the first Abercrombie a couple weeks ago. May try it next.
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind. I like it. It's in the fantasy genre. I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago. It's strangely satisfying.
I'm really into it too Pete. I am currently reading American Gods. It's okay. You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books. They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs. The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes. eff that is a great read. You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more. Do it!
I will definitely read them, thanks!
I have also recently read the Brandon Sanderson "Mistborn" trilogy, and the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy. They were both enjoyable, but cannot hold a candle to GoTs. Night Angle is a bit better if you like more physical action, and Mistborn is better if you like creative and novel magical theories.
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind. I like it. It's in the fantasy genre. I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago. It's strangely satisfying.
I'm really into it too Pete. I am currently reading American Gods. It's okay. You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books. They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs. The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes. eff that is a great read. You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more. Do it!
I bought the first Abercrombie a couple weeks ago. May try it next.
CNS do yourself a giant-sized favor and dig the eff in. They're great, friend!
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2013, 11:00:47 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind. I like it. It's in the fantasy genre. I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago. It's strangely satisfying.
I'm really into it too Pete. I am currently reading American Gods. It's okay. You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books. They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs. The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes. eff that is a great read. You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more. Do it!
I will definitely read them, thanks!
I have also recently read the Brandon Sanderson "Mistborn" trilogy, and the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy. They were both enjoyable, but cannot hold a candle to GoTs. Night Angle is a bit better if you like more physical action, and Mistborn is better if you like creative and novel magical theories.
At first you won't really be impressed, but then when you start to see how well he writes personalities and dialogue/inner monologue, you'll be all "Oh man, excellent! :excited:" There is also violence and complex political intrigue/scheming just like GoT, plus magic type stuff. The violence is better described, more vivid than GRRM does it. Dark adult stuff for sure. I'm excited for you.
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 11:06:08 AM
Bread, will do. I bought it based off of this thread and your earlier mention.
It's really easy to get invested in his characters if you stick with it a bit.
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2013, 11:06:50 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind. I like it. It's in the fantasy genre. I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago. It's strangely satisfying.
I'm really into it too Pete. I am currently reading American Gods. It's okay. You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books. They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs. The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes. eff that is a great read. You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more. Do it!
I will definitely read them, thanks!
I have also recently read the Brandon Sanderson "Mistborn" trilogy, and the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy. They were both enjoyable, but cannot hold a candle to GoTs. Night Angle is a bit better if you like more physical action, and Mistborn is better if you like creative and novel magical theories.
At first you won't really be impressed, but then when you start to see how well he writes personalities and dialogue/inner monologue, you'll be all "Oh man, excellent! :excited:" There is also violence and complex political intrigue/scheming just like GoT, plus magic type stuff. The violence is better described, more vivid than GRRM does it. Dark adult stuff for sure. I'm excited for you.
adorbs :D
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2013, 11:55:34 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 12:20:41 PM
Man, I just started the Patrick Rothfuss "Name of the Wind" trilogy, and am contemplating putting it down on moving on to the Abercrombie stuff. That's not really my style, though. I like to pound through the entire series before I move on to another one. This is a pickle.
The internet tells me he hasn't finished writing the third book and won't even say when it will be out. :dunno:
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When will book 3 be out?
Rest assured, as I promised for book 2, when there is news about book 3, I will pass it along. I don’t glean joy from withholding information; when there’s news, I’ll tell you.
Coast is clear.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 10, 2013, 12:30:57 PM
Post by: pvegs on December 10, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
Memoir
Son of a Gun - Justin St. Germain (fmr Stegner Fellow, friend, all-around stud)
Fiction
The Circle - Dave Eggers (McSweeney's founder, hugely prodigous, most know him from "Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius")
The Luminaries - Eleanor Catton (NY Times notable book, int'l book award winner, gf's bestie)
Poetry
Mayakovsky's Revolver - Matthew Dickman (frequent SEA reader, Huge stud in PDX, Tin House editor)
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 10, 2013, 12:40:10 PM
it's good. i should have said how much i loved blink. it changed a lot of things for me and the other books have only been very good.Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.
just started d&g. seemed interesting.
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
didn't know there were so many grown men into fantasy books.
Are you like trying to say they are children or something? Or women? :ck:
Post by: The_Wippuh on December 10, 2013, 01:14:59 PM
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 10, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
Right now I'm working my way through the Enderverse; so maybe when I'm finished with that I'll come back looking for a suggestion.
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 01:49:17 PM
didn't know there were so many grown men into fantasy books.
Are you like trying to say they are children or something? Or women? :ck:
I would certainly hope not. He read the Hunger Games trilogy after all. Though it is mikey, so maybe.
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 01:54:44 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face. GRRM and Abercrombie are the best. Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too. Pete seems to like him. I'm not touching it until he finishes.
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 02:08:44 PM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book. It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO. Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out. Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff.it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away
Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
Are the DT series worth reading?
Mixed bag. The first book is one of my favs. I don't reread many books, but have reread that one several times. The Drawing of The Three was slow. Wizard and Glass was really good. The last three were very forced and sucked balls.
Overall, the first four set up a very good story and King muffed it like crazy on the last 3. You could tell that he just had no idea how to proceed from the middle of the series to the last quarter of the last book. That said, I would read it knowing what I know now.
Missed this the first time. Completely agree with CNS here, Pete. Really great stuff starting out and then he just lost it. Still probably better than a lot of the fantasy stuff you'll run into out there in total. I reread the first four because he had like a six-year hiatus before the last three. The first four are definitely worth it.
Post by: Goddamnitnappa on December 10, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 10, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
Post by: puniraptor on December 10, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
no dragons tho.
spoiler
Post by: sys on December 10, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
If you enjoyed the political intrigue/scheming of GoT and like historical fiction The Last Kingdom by Bernard Cromwell and subsequent books are easy and straightforward reads. The story is basically how King Alfred united all of England while fighting off the French and Vikings; no dragons tho.
cromwell is great. also writes like a fiend. like a book a month or something, so you're not waiting around for him to finish stuff.
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
I hadn't realized that Rothfuss hasn't finished the series yet. I am like Bread, in that I hat to wait for the next book. GRRM has ruined me that way.
I am going to finish Name of the Wind, then jump into Abercrombie. By the end of those maybe Rothfuss will be done.
I like that Kvothe character though...sucks to have to wait.
Post by: whatdacatsay on December 10, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on December 10, 2013, 09:39:47 PM
A short history of nearly everything. Bill Bryson. It's not nearly as intimidating as it sounds. It's actually quite an entertaining readI heard it doesn't have a lot of women in it and is a huge sausage fest.
Post by: whatdacatsay on December 10, 2013, 10:27:09 PM
A short history of nearly everything. Bill Bryson. It's not nearly as intimidating as it sounds. It's actually quite an entertaining readI heard it doesn't have a lot of women in it and is a huge sausage fest.
Well obviously. It's a book about history. I can't recall any women doing anything noteworthy.
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 18, 2013, 12:26:24 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2013, 12:36:20 PM
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059
Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
Post by: CNS on December 18, 2013, 12:38:42 PM
Currently reading 1491:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059
Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
My little bro has been telling me to read this for a couple years. Need to give it a whirl, I guess.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2013, 12:39:22 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 18, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
Currently reading 1491:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059
Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.
Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 18, 2013, 01:22:05 PM
Currently reading 1491:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059
Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.
Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.
I'm quite :dubious: about this. Native Americans didn't become efficient hunters of the buffalo until after they had the horse. It was the horse that enabled the explosion in Native American populations on the prairies.
Post by: CNS on December 18, 2013, 01:28:50 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 18, 2013, 01:43:35 PM
Currently reading 1491:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059
Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.
Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.
I'm quite :dubious: about this. Native Americans didn't become efficient hunters of the buffalo until after they had the horse. It was the horse that enabled the explosion in Native American populations on the prairies.
Not saying its the truth just interesting...Also before Native Americans had horses they would drive whole herds of buffalo off cliffs and crap. I Could see how that would help keep the numbers down.
Post by: Boom Roasted on December 19, 2013, 08:23:05 AM
Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.
I have a suggestion for you. I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it. I bought it and I read it. One of the best fracking books I have ever read.
You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coverbrowser.com%2Fimage%2Fbestselling-mystery-thriller-2008%2F662-5.jpg&hash=809c21068afd1027404d5aefc9de37b6f1f89162)
About 3/4 through Dirty White Boys in just the past 5 days. On Holy crap number 35 or so. Also get questions from Lady BR why I am chuckling every once in a while. Good stuff. Heard lots of his other stuff is good as well.
Post by: Cire on December 19, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 19, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.
I have a suggestion for you. I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it. I bought it and I read it. One of the best fracking books I have ever read.
You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coverbrowser.com%2Fimage%2Fbestselling-mystery-thriller-2008%2F662-5.jpg&hash=809c21068afd1027404d5aefc9de37b6f1f89162)
About 3/4 through Dirty White Boys in just the past 5 days. On Holy crap number 35 or so. Also get questions from Lady BR why I am chuckling every once in a while. Good stuff. Heard lots of his other stuff is good as well.
same guy wrote the book the Marky Mark movie Shooter was based on.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2013, 01:33:51 PM
Currently reading 1491:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059
Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.
Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.
I'm quite :dubious: about this. Native Americans didn't become efficient hunters of the buffalo until after they had the horse. It was the horse that enabled the explosion in Native American populations on the prairies.
Not saying its the truth just interesting...Also before Native Americans had horses they would drive whole herds of buffalo off cliffs and crap. I Could see how that would help keep the numbers down.
There really aren't very many cliffs throughout much of the great plains, though.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on December 19, 2013, 01:34:49 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
One essay that I particularly enjoyed was On Self-Respect. I've read it three times this week. I especially encourage anyone experiencing a difficult time to give the following a read:
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Once, in a dry season, I wrote in large letters across two pages of a notebook that innocence ends when one is stripped of the delusion that one likes oneself. Although now,
some years later, I marvel that a mind on the outs with itself should have nonetheless made painstaking record of its every tremor, I recall with embarrassing clarity the
flavor of those particular ashes. It was a mater of misplaced self-respect.
I had not been elected to Phi Beta Kappa. This failure could scarcely have been more predictable or less ambiguous (I simply did not have the grades), but I was unnerved by it; I had somehow thought myself a kind of academic Raskolnikov, curiously exempt from the cause-effect relationships which hampered others. Although even the humorless nineteen-year-old that I was must have recognized that the situation lacked real tragic stature, the day that I did to make Phi Beta kappa nonetheless marked the end of something, and innocence may well be the word for it. I lost the conviction that lights would always turn green for me, the pleasant certainty that those rather passive virtues which had won me approval as a child automatically guaranteed me not only Phi Beta Kappa keys but happiness, honor, and the love of a good man; lost a certain touching faith in the totem power of good manners, clean hair, and proved competence on the Stanford-Binet scale. To such doubtful amulets had my self-respect been pinned, and I faced myself that day with the nonplussed apprehension of someone who has come across a vampire and has no crucifix at hand.
Although to be driven back upon oneself is an uneasy affair at best, rather like trying to cross a border with borrowed credentials, it seems to me now the one condition necessary to the beginnings of real self-respect. Most of our platitudes notwithstanding, self-deception remains the most difficult deception. The tricks that work on others count for nothing in that well-lit back alley where one keeps assignations with oneself; no winning smiles will do here, no prettily drawn lists of good intentions. One shuffles flashily but in vain through ones’ marked cards the kindness done for the wrong reason, the apparent triumph which involved no real effort, the seemingly heroic act into which one had been shamed. The dismal fact is that self-respect has nothing to do with the approval of others – who we are, after all, deceived easily enough; has nothing to do with reputation, which, as Rhett Butler told Scarlett O’Hara, is something people with courage can do without.
To do without self-respect, on the other hand, is to be an unwilling audience of one to an interminable documentary that deals one’s failings, both real and imagined, with fresh footage spliced in for every screening. There’s the glass you broke in anger, there’s the hurt on X’s face; watch now, this next scene, the night Y came back from Houston, see how you muff this one. To live without self-respect is to lie awake some night, beyond the reach of warm milk, the Phenobarbital, and the sleeping hand on the coverlet, counting up the sins of commissions and omission, the trusts betrayed, the promises subtly broken, the gifts irrevocably wasted through sloth or cowardice, or carelessness. However long we postpone it, we eventually lie down alone in that notoriously uncomfortable bed, the one we make ourselves. Whether or not we sleep in it depends, of course, on whether or not we respect ourselves.
To protest that some fairly improbably people, some people who could not possibly respect themselves, seem to sleep easily enough is to miss the point entirely, as surely as those people miss it who think that self-respect has necessarily to do with not having safety pins in one’s underwear. There is a common superstition that “self-respect” is a kind of charm against snakes, something that keeps those who have it locked in some unblighted Eden, out of strange beds, ambivalent conversations, and trouble in general. It does not at all. It has nothing to do with the face of things, but concerns instead a separate peace, a private reconciliation. Although the careless, suicidal Julian English in Appointment in Samara and the careless, incurably dishonest Jordan Baker in The Great Gatsby seem equally improbably candidates for self-respect, Jordan Baker had it, Julian English did not. With that genius for accommodation more often seen in women than men, Jordan took her own measure, made her own peace, avoided threats to that peace: “I hate careless people,” she told Nick Carraway. “It takes two to make an accident.”
Like Jordan Baker, people with self-respect have the courage of their mistakes. They know the price of things. If they choose to commit adultery, they do not then go running, in an access of bad conscience, to receive absolution from the wronged parties; nor do they complain unduly of the unfairness, the undeserved embarrassment, of being named co-respondent. In brief, people with self-respect exhibit a certain toughness, a kind of mortal nerve; they display what was once called character, a quality which, although approved in the abstract, sometimes loses ground to other, more instantly negotiable virtues. The measure of its slipping prestige is that one tends to think of it only in connection with homely children and United States senators who have been defeated, preferably in the primary, for reelection. Nonetheless, character – the willingness to accept responsibility for one’s own life – is the source from which self-respect springs.
Self-respect is something that our grandparents, whether or not they had it, knew all about. They had instilled in them, young, a certain discipline, the sense that one lives by doing things one does not particularly want to do, by putting fears and doubts to one side, by weighing immediate comforts against the possibility of larger, even intangible, comforts. It seemed to the nineteenth century admirable, but not remarkable, that Chinese Gordon put on a clean white suit and held Khartoum against the Mahdi; it did not seem unjust that the way to free land in California involved death and difficulty and dirt. In a diary kept during the winter of 1846, an emigrating twelve-yaer-old named Narcissa Cornwall noted coolly: “Father was busy reading and did not notice that the house was being filled with strange Indians until Mother spoke out about it.” Even lacking any clue as to what Mother said, one can scarcely fail to be impressed by the entire incident: the father reading, the Indians filing in, the mother choosing the words that would not alarm, the child duly recording the event and noting further that those particular Indians were not, “fortunately for us,” hostile. Indians were simply part of the donnee.
In one guise or another, Indians always are. Again, it is a question of recognizing that anything worth having has its price. People who respect themselves are willing to accept the risk that the Indians will be hostile, that the venture will go bankrupt, that the liaison may not turn out to be one in which every day is a holiday because you’re married to me. They are willing to invest something of themselves; they may not play at all, but when they do play, they know the odds.
That kind of self-respect is a discipline, a habit of mind that can never be faked but can be developed, trained, coaxed forth. It was once suggested to me that, as an antidote to crying, I put my had in a paper bag. As it happens, there is a sound physiological reason, something to do with oxygen, for doing exactly that, but the psychological effect alone is incalculable: it is difficult bin the extreme to continue fancying oneself Cathy in Wuthering Heights with ones head in a Food Fair bag. There is a similar case for all the small disciplines, unimportant in themselves; imagine maintaining any kind of swoon, commiserative or carnal, in a cold shower.
But those small disciplines are valuable only insofar as they represent larger ones. To say that Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton is not to say that Napoleon might have been saved by a crash program in cricket; to give formal dinners in the rain forest would be pointless did not the candlelight flickering on the liana call forth deeper, stronger disciplines, values instilled long before. It is a kind of ritual, helping us to remember who and what we are. In order to remember it, one must have known it.
To have that sense of one’s intrinsic worth which constitutes self-respect is potentially to have everything: the ability to discriminate, to love and to remain indifferent. To lack it is to be locked within oneself, paradoxically incapable of either love or indifference. If we do not respect ourselves, we are the one hand forced to despise those who have so few resources as to consort with us, so little perception as to remain blind to our fatal weaknesses. On the other, we are peculiarly in thrall to everyone we see, curiously determined to live out – since our self-image is untenable – their false notion of us. We flatter ourselves by thinking this compulsion to please others an attractive trait: a gist for imaginative empathy, evidence of our willingness to give. Of course I will play Francesca to your Paolo, Helen Keller to anyone’s Annie Sullivan; no expectation is too misplaced, no role too ludicrous. At the mercy of those we cannot but hold in contempt, we play roles doomed to failure before they are begun, each defeat generating fresh despair at the urgency of divining and meting the next demand made upon us.
It is the phenomenon sometimes called “alienation from self.” In its advanced stages, we no longer answer the telephone, because someone might want something; that we could say no without drowning in self-reproach is an idea alien to this game. Every encounter demands to much, tears the nerves, drains the will, and the specter of something as small as an unanswered letter arouses such disproportionate guilt that answering it becomes out of the question. To assign unanswered letters their proper weight, to free us from the expectations of others, to give us back to ourselves – there lies the great, the singular power of self-respect. Without it, one eventually discovers the final turn of the screw: one runs away to find oneself, and finds no one at home.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
i think sys and mich. and other californiacats would appreciate the book's many CA-based essays.
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2013, 03:41:38 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/145919432/William-Shakespeare-s-Star-Wars-An-Excerpt (http://www.scribd.com/doc/145919432/William-Shakespeare-s-Star-Wars-An-Excerpt)
Post by: 8manpick on December 20, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.
Really liked that essay, thanks for sharing. I guess you owe me a beer now. Tomorrow?
Post by: Brock Landers on December 20, 2013, 03:59:25 PM
if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.
i think sys and mich. and other californiacats would appreciate the books CA-based essays.
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
:thumbs: yes, tomorrow.if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.
Really liked that essay, thanks for sharing. I guess you owe me a beer now. Tomorrow?
i'll read that thing you posted sometime, bubs:thumbs:
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
For the Fantasy Dorks
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face. GRRM and Abercrombie are the best. Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too. Pete seems to like him. I'm not touching it until he finishes.
I caved and started the second Rothfuss book. It's really good. I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie. I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 09:00:13 AM
Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.
I have a suggestion for you. I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it. I bought it and I read it. One of the best fracking books I have ever read.
You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.
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About 3/4 through Dirty White Boys in just the past 5 days. On Holy crap number 35 or so. Also get questions from Lady BR why I am chuckling every once in a while. Good stuff. Heard lots of his other stuff is good as well.
TOLD YOU!
It's a crazy rough ridin' book, and a crap load of fun to read.
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
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Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2014, 11:09:36 AM
my god what a bunch of showoffs
Are you jealous? :D
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2014, 11:11:57 AM
my god what a bunch of showoffs
Are you jealous? :D
why don't you go change your name to "ireadalotofbookscat" and just leave me alone.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 11:33:58 AM
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 11:43:31 AM
just finished my third Jack Reacher, Lee Child novel. theyre pretty good but I need a break from Jack. should I read "Dirty White Boys" next?
You will not regret reading Dirty White Boys. DO IT! It's a stand alone book, not a series.
Stephen Hunter also writes a bunch of other books other characters related to Dirty White Boys (Bob Lee Swagger), which are badasses that go around and whip people's asses and shoot them in the face and have sex and generally just be studs.
Post by: The_Wippuh on January 07, 2014, 03:26:25 PM
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle. It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.
Come post back here after you read the first 2-4 pages. :sdeek:
Also, the book that Shooter is based on is actually not bad, but it's different than Dirty White Boys. Stephen Hunter tends to get really specific about guns and action and stuff. He's like a Tom Clancy on the technical detail, but then mixed with a Stephen King when it comes to his willingness to go into graphic detail on really mumped sex and violence stuff.
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2014, 05:34:05 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face. GRRM and Abercrombie are the best. Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too. Pete seems to like him. I'm not touching it until he finishes.
I caved and started the second Rothfuss book. It's really good. I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie. I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!
You are in for a treat then. I started rereading them and they're still great.
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2014, 07:45:01 PM
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 07, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guysrecommend me the best book about the nuremberg trials and i'll see what i can do.
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2014, 08:23:29 PM
Has anyone read Sycamore Row by John Grisham?
Yes. It's just ok. It's no Time To Kill, though.
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Post by: jmlynch1 on January 07, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
Reading The Blade Itself now. Only about 8% into it so far.i'm like 4/5ths through that now. Coworker told me the first book is mostly build up.
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Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2014, 08:32:53 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guysrecommend me the best book about the nuremberg trials and i'll see what i can do.
Are you trying to help? I am now googling books over Nuremberg.
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is derivative from Nuremberg and references quotes and commentary on the quotes but it it not about Nuremberg.
Post by: jmlynch1 on January 07, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guysthe giver
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 07, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
i was hoping that you'd read a book about the trials already. i really think you should read Slouching Towards Bethlehem.Are you trying to help? I am now googling books over Nuremberg.I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guysrecommend me the best book about the nuremberg trials and i'll see what i can do.
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is derivative from Nuremberg and references quotes and commentary on the quotes but it it not about Nuremberg.
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 10:11:35 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Here we go!
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Post by: Pete on January 08, 2014, 06:41:19 AM
PETE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!
Starts off with bang, eh? :fatty:
Post by: CNS on January 08, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Reading The Blade Itself now. Only about 8% into it so far.i'm like 4/5ths through that now. Coworker told me the first book is mostly build up.
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I am fine with that. I enjoy character development.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 08, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)
I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history. I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Post by: Boom Roasted on January 08, 2014, 09:32:56 AM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle. It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.
Come post back here after you read the first 2-4 pages. :sdeek:
Also, the book that Shooter is based on is actually not bad, but it's different than Dirty White Boys. Stephen Hunter tends to get really specific about guns and action and stuff. He's like a Tom Clancy on the technical detail, but then mixed with a Stephen King when it comes to his willingness to go into graphic detail on really mumped sex and violence stuff.
Yes you will enjoy Dirty White Boys, I am now about 3/4 through Point of Impact(shooter) and its pretty darn good. Wish I hadn't seen the movie because i'm sure it would be better without knowing generally what was going to happen. Will surely read some more of his stuff. While it's not intellectual show-off stuff, its very entertaining and that's really all I am going for. Thanks Pete :thumbsup:
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle. It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.
Come post back here after you read the first 2-4 pages. :sdeek:
Also, the book that Shooter is based on is actually not bad, but it's different than Dirty White Boys. Stephen Hunter tends to get really specific about guns and action and stuff. He's like a Tom Clancy on the technical detail, but then mixed with a Stephen King when it comes to his willingness to go into graphic detail on really mumped sex and violence stuff.
Yes you will enjoy Dirty White Boys, I am now about 3/4 through Point of Impact(shooter) and its pretty darn good. Wish I hadn't seen the movie because i'm sure it would be better without knowing generally what was going to happen. Will surely read some more of his stuff. While it's not intellectual show-off stuff, its very entertaining and that's really all I am going for. Thanks Pete :thumbsup:
If you like those, then read his series that takes place earlier in history, after WW2. It's Bob Lee Swagger's Dad, Earl, who is a badass. The first book takes place in Hot Springs Arkansas (book is called "Hot Springs"). The series of three books is referred to as the "Earl Swagger Series." Those are filled with really cool stuff about that area of Arkansas, and loads of ass kicking and shooting faces off and all that good stuff.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 08, 2014, 01:02:24 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Mansions-Mysterious-Huguette-Spending/dp/0345534522
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 09, 2014, 08:27:11 AM
PETE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!
Starts off with bang, eh? :fatty:
ok, it calmed down a bit since the beginning. im very interested at this point.
FIRMLY BY THE BALLS
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2014, 10:31:12 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books? Books I've read in this genre:
Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)
I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history. I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Not exactly like what you're looking for, but it's in that vein:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389284996&sr=8-1&keywords=1491
I'm about halfway through and really enjoy it.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2014, 10:33:02 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books? Books I've read in this genre:
Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)
I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history. I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Not exactly like what you're looking for, but it's in that vein:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389284996&sr=8-1&keywords=1491
I'm about halfway through and really enjoy it.
That does look good. Thanks. :thumbs:
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
Recommend me the best book about Ireland v N Ireland, The Troubles, historical background, etc. TIA gE!
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 09, 2014, 10:38:02 AM
Post by: ben ji on January 09, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books? Books I've read in this genre:
Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)
I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history. I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Not exactly like what you're looking for, but it's in that vein:
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389284996&sr=8-1&keywords=1491
I'm about halfway through and really enjoy it.
Only read a couple of chapters so far but very good!
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books? Books I've read in this genre:
Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)
I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history. I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Tangentially related:
River of Doubt is about Teddy Roosevelt exploring the Amazon and I thought it was excellent.
Also:
Villa and Zapata : A History of the Mexican Revolution
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 14, 2014, 04:06:29 PM
PETE!!!!!!! :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
Post by: Pete on January 14, 2014, 07:40:28 PM
PETE!!!!!!! :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
I told you it was mumped up! It's a unique book.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 14, 2014, 08:19:32 PM
I thought the same about River of Doubt. TR can inspire you to do manly things.Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books? Books I've read in this genre:
Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)
I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history. I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Tangentially related:
River of Doubt is about Teddy Roosevelt exploring the Amazon and I thought it was excellent.
Also:
Villa and Zapata : A History of the Mexican Revolution
Nothing Like It in the World is the Stephen Ambrose book about the transcontinental railroad. He spends a lot of time complaining about corrupt congressmen and financiers so it's less exciting than his other books.
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Have read "Social Conquest of Earth" and "Thinking Fast and Slow" recently and really enjoy the general subjects addressed.
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2014, 10:24:12 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face. GRRM and Abercrombie are the best. Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too. Pete seems to like him. I'm not touching it until he finishes.
I caved and started the second Rothfuss book. It's really good. I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie. I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!
You are in for a treat then. I started rereading them and they're still great.
The first one (the Blade itself) was pretty good, and I just started the second one and it seems like it might be better. I saw where someone else posted that the first one is a lot of character background.
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
It's frustrating to not be able to finish the series, but they are really great books. This is a WAY too simplistic description, but think of them as Harry Potter, but if he was a rough ridin' bad ass and the books were for adults.
The first one starts a bit slow, but picks up steam fast. There is a bit of a fanciful turn of events about 3/4 the way through the second book, but if it finishes strong.
I highly recommend them.
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
I couldn't agree more. Kvothe (the main character) is a rough ridin' joy to follow. Gut wrenching that last book isn't out yet.
This, and SOFAI, are so good that I'll probably take a couple days off of work and just read when the next books come out. Such a pleasure.
Post by: michigancat on January 20, 2014, 07:42:54 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Any good evolutionary psychology books?"The Intelligence Paradox" is very fun and will make you feel smart. As we've discussed, the author is a racist and there are a couple of paragraphs that will make you shake your head but the shitty stuff is all opinion/conclusion, the science is very fun. Don't buy a new copy and you won't be funding him.
Have read "Social Conquest of Earth" and "Thinking Fast and Slow" recently and really enjoy the general subjects addressed.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 22, 2014, 07:15:49 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 22, 2014, 09:12:49 AM
I'm done with nazis. Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.
Nazis were so 2000's
Post by: 8manpick on January 22, 2014, 09:55:47 AM
I'm done with nazis. Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.
are you 70 years old?
Post by: Pete on January 22, 2014, 10:42:57 AM
For the Fantasy Dorks
I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff. As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).
Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant. He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels. Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer. His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand. You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing. Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.
Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose. He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff. I cannot recommend it enough. Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face. GRRM and Abercrombie are the best. Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too. Pete seems to like him. I'm not touching it until he finishes.
I caved and started the second Rothfuss book. It's really good. I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie. I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!
You are in for a treat then. I started rereading them and they're still great.
The first one (the Blade itself) was pretty good, and I just started the second one and it seems like it might be better. I saw where someone else posted that the first one is a lot of character background.
50% of the way through the second Abercrombie book, I love the three pronged story covering the converging wars. The battle descriptions are awesome, and the internal monologue of Glotka is a lot of fun to read....I find myself most attached to Glotka, Logan the Northman, and the band of Threetrees, Dogman, Dow, and Grim.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 22, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
I'm done with nazis. Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.
are you 70 years old?
:lol:
Post by: Mr Bread on January 22, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
50% of the way through the second Abercrombie book, I love the three pronged story covering the converging wars. The battle descriptions are awesome, and the internal monologue of Glotka is a lot of fun to read....I find myself most attached to Glotka, Logan the Northman, and the band of Threetrees, Dogman, Dow, and Grim.
Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is. I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more. Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me. I love back story though. Complete sucker for it. I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing. Fun climate for a story. Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.
Post by: Mr Bread on January 22, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2014, 12:30:52 PM
I'm done with nazis. Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.
are you 70 years old?
would he need the instructional books if he were 70 years old?
Post by: Pete on January 28, 2014, 03:51:22 PM
Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is. I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more. Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me. I love back story though. Complete sucker for it. I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing. Fun climate for a story. Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.
Started Abercrombie's third book in the series this weekend....really, really enjoying this series. I don't know what I'll do when this one is done, have nothing in my on-deck circle. :frown:
Post by: Mr Bread on January 28, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is. I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more. Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me. I love back story though. Complete sucker for it. I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing. Fun climate for a story. Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.
Started Abercrombie's third book in the series this weekend....really, really enjoying this series. I don't know what I'll do when this one is done, have nothing in my on-deck circle. :frown:
He has three more. Best Served Cold, The Heroes and Red Country (in order). They follow the original three. Some lesser characters with expanded roles (e.g., Shivers, Cosca, Gorst, Calder) and of course new characters and settings. The Heroes might have been my favorite out of all his books. Best Served Cold is solid. Red Country is his worst book imo.
Post by: Pete on January 28, 2014, 05:50:20 PM
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Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2014, 01:20:49 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 06, 2014, 01:36:04 PM
i am about halfway through the girl who kicked the hornet's nest, and it is by far my favorite of the trilogy so far
It's been so long since I read those that I can barely remember what happened in each one. They were all pretty good though.
Post by: mocat on February 06, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
the second one is pretty much revenge and stuff
the third one is completely an espionage novel
Post by: Kat Kid on February 06, 2014, 03:12:54 PM
I'm reading Nate Silver's "Signal and the Noise". Love crap like that.
this is now my next book.
Post by: ben ji on February 07, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
I finally finished Infinite Jest. I want to start reading it again immediately. Crazy.
Started reading this, got about 30 pages in and I really hate how there are no paragraphs, just straight blocks of text.
Post by: Tobias on February 07, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
the first one is pretty much all about sexual violence against women
the second one is pretty much revenge and stuff
the third one is completely an espionage novel
i started reading these on a friday night and ended up taking a vacation day on monday :users:
Post by: michigancat on February 08, 2014, 01:21:30 AM
I finally finished Infinite Jest. I want to start reading it again immediately. Crazy.
Started reading this, got about 30 pages in and I really hate how there are no paragraphs, just straight blocks of text.
um, there are definitely paragraphs. Still, it takes about 250 pages to "get over the hump". It's worth it.
Post by: mocat on February 08, 2014, 04:12:22 PM
the first one is pretty much all about sexual violence against women
the second one is pretty much revenge and stuff
the third one is completely an espionage novel
i started reading these on a friday night and ended up taking a vacation day on monday :users:
Haha for reals? They are certainly page turners
Post by: Tobias on February 08, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 08, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
i hardly ever read but when i do it's with extreme aggression
yes, same way. one of the major reasons i don't enjoy reading books is because it takes multiple sittings. anything over 2 days and i'm almost sure to lose interest.
Post by: kim carnes on February 08, 2014, 04:31:31 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
Read 2666, whew that was an experience. Pretty great imo, the scope was so huge.
Thinking about reading this next. Have you read Savage Detectives?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 10, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
its pretty good so far and I haven't even gotten to the intense parts yet.
SPOILER ALERT: the dude does NOT like liberals.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2014, 12:08:54 AM
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Post by: Pete on February 16, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related. Got right in my craw after the fact.
FINISHED! What was your gripe?
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
Post by: CNS on February 16, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Hold off for a couple days. About 60% through book three.Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related. Got right in my craw after the fact.
FINISHED! What was your gripe?
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
Hold off for a couple days. About 60% through book three.Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related. Got right in my craw after the fact.
FINISHED! What was your gripe?
OK :thumbs:
Post by: CHONGS on February 16, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
Nope, its going to happen pretty soon. Have you?Read 2666, whew that was an experience. Pretty great imo, the scope was so huge.
Thinking about reading this next. Have you read Savage Detectives?
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Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2014, 07:25:37 PM
Post by: Pete on February 21, 2014, 12:50:10 PM
Hold off for a couple days. About 60% through book three.Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related. Got right in my craw after the fact.
FINISHED! What was your gripe?
:impatient:
Post by: Mr Bread on February 21, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Hold off for a couple days. About 60% through book three.Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related. Got right in my craw after the fact.
FINISHED! What was your gripe?
:impatient:
Sorry missed it. Okay, so Logen's this off/on mass murdering bloodlusting psychopath guy and that's how he's become this great warrior and won the big-time duels. EXCEPT he let all those other big-time fuckers live during/after ALL their duels. No. He kills his friends and random children during battle and spares people he's dueling with? Nonsense imo. Nothing we were shown suggests he would have or even could have stopped. Like maybe once he could zone back in at the end or whatever, but not for all of them. It's not much, but that's it.
Post by: CNS on February 21, 2014, 01:16:32 PM
I just won't open this thread until finished.
Post by: CNS on February 23, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
Post by: Pete on February 23, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
Just finished. Decent books
I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too. I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.
Post by: CNS on February 23, 2014, 08:59:28 PM
Just finished. Decent books
I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too. I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.
I will probably read those too, but am going to move on to something else for now. Time for a genere change for the next book or two. Might try that Blood and Thunder one or The Cuckoo's Calling.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 24, 2014, 08:02:36 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 25, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
Never knew the Pirate's backstory....makes me respect him more now.
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 03:13:41 PM
1491
Infinite Jest (Obviously started last year)
This Town
The Crying of Lot 49
Signal and the Noise
Persuasion Nation
The Orphan Master's Son
Currently on "The Invisible Gorilla", which is more or less about the limits the human brain has paying attention. Also reading 2666.
Post by: ben ji on February 25, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
I finally started making a list of all the books I'm finishing this year. Here's what I've knocked out:
1491
Infinite Jest (Obviously started last year)
This Town
The Crying of Lot 49
Signal and the Noise
Persuasion Nation
The Orphan Master's Son
Currently on "The Invisible Gorilla", which is more or less about the limits the human brain has paying attention. Also reading 2666.
Read that and just finished 1493, thought 1493 was even better.
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 25, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver. He actually kind of mocks Gladwell at one point (justifiably so).
Post by: Spracne on February 25, 2014, 04:25:26 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver.
When I hear the noise "Nate Silver," my brain receives a signal that suggests politics, and I'm not looking for that. Am I wrong? Also, I saw that suggestion above and thought it was a Faulkner novel...
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 04:45:39 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver.
When I hear the noise "Nate Silver," my brain receives a signal that suggests politics, and I'm not looking for that. Am I wrong? Also, I saw that suggestion above and thought it was a Faulkner novel...
There's not much in there about politics. He actually talks a lot about how poor economists are at forecasting the economy (and why). Also how we can use data to assign odds to things like earthquakes and terrorism, and has a long chapter devoted to sports and another devoted to poker. Did you know he developed PECOTA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PECOTA
Post by: Pete on February 25, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
If you have any connection with KC you might enjoy "The Mafia and the Machine." It's a history of the mob in KC, and their relationship with politics in the area. Very interesting stuff.
Post by: CNS on February 25, 2014, 06:52:49 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
If you have any connection with KC you might enjoy "The Mafia and the Machine." It's a history of the mob in KC, and their relationship with politics in the area. Very interesting stuff.
I DL'ed this about six mo ago and just haven't been in the mood for non fiction since.
Post by: Spracne on February 25, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 06, 2014, 09:20:19 AM
http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/ (http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/)
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 06, 2014, 11:54:53 AM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
Naked Economics, wonderful book. Economics in plain English. As a bonus, he just put out a book in the same style on statistics. It's good too.
I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too. I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.
Some of the best stuff I've read in a long time when it comes to epic fantasy. Pretty easy to see two trilogies that will form the entire story and it will kick so much ass. Waiting between the books, as Rothfuss is on Jordan/Martin time, will not be so much fun.
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Not sure if this the right place to put this.
http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/ (http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/)
Hmm, I'd have to see actual scientific studies about how comprehension compares, but that seems awesome.
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 06, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
I cannot decide if I hate it or love it and would love to discuss it with others. It's his attempt at a huge fantasy series and some stuff is already really bugging me about it.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 06, 2014, 12:01:28 PM
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 06, 2014, 12:02:48 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 06, 2014, 12:09:09 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell. Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
Naked Economics, wonderful book. Economics in plain English. As a bonus, he just put out a book in the same style on statistics. It's good too.I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too. I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.
Some of the best stuff I've read in a long time when it comes to epic fantasy. Pretty easy to see two trilogies that will form the entire story and it will kick so much ass. Waiting between the books, as Rothfuss is on Jordan/Martin time, will not be so much fun.
Thanks, Wippuh. Sounds like a really great suggestiono.
Post by: slucat on March 10, 2014, 09:04:12 AM
It was made into a film with Bradley Cooper and JLaw. :love:
Post by: Tobias on March 14, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 20, 2014, 12:49:55 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 20, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
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I'm insanely jealous.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
http://www.amazon.com/On-Looking-Eleven-Walks-Expert-ebook/product-reviews/B008J4N5ZQ/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
And oh my god I hated the way she wrote. She does this thing where for the intro every chapter she quotes herself in italics. I definitely quit early.
Also, 2666 is SO GOOD. Thanks again, chings.
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 02:26:51 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 25, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
Does the fact that I don't generally like reading books written by women reflect poorly on me?
Do you not like books written by women or just books written from a female's POV?
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
Does the fact that I don't generally like reading books written by women reflect poorly on me?
Do you not like books written by women or just books written from a female's POV?
It should be noted I generally don't read fiction, so it's difficult to draw the distinction.
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 26, 2014, 05:03:08 AM
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 07:12:02 AM
Post by: slucat on March 26, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2014, 09:42:41 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2014, 10:13:38 AM
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
Yeah, I can see that. More Bears, tho :love:
Post by: Skipper44 on March 26, 2014, 03:36:16 PM
I wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died :frown:I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
I wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died :frown:I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
How do you feel about oscar?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
The Assassination of Julius Caesar is really good. It is a revisionist history of the late Roman republic, why Julius Caesar was assassinated and why the Republic failed.
Verdict?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 09:51:01 AM
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 27, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
If you're into video games, this two book series is for you. Think of an evil John Carmack trying to take over the world, from beyond the grave, through World of Warcraft. On top of that, the books make it very believable. You can see this type of incident happening and the book will take you on an emotional free fall.
The characters are a little flat, not much to really grow with and care about, but the story itself grabs you through that aforementioned emotion.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2014, 10:17:23 AM
The Assassination of Julius Caesar is really good. It is a revisionist history of the late Roman republic, why Julius Caesar was assassinated and why the Republic failed.
Verdict?
Basically says the oligarchs of the senate were threatened by Caesars ability to appeal to the masses and foster real reforms (land, tax, property, expansion of citizens rights) that would upset the power structure of the elites.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 10:20:08 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2014, 10:29:20 AM
I meant more why did the republic fail...Ceasar was dead long before the republic failed so I see them as unrelated.
Rome wasn't a republic when it fell, so that may be what is causing the confusion.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2014, 11:05:27 AM
He is very lucky Foster is a total badassI wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died :frown:I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
How do you feel about oscar?
Post by: asava on March 27, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
He is very lucky Foster is a total badassI wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died :frown:I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
How do you feel about oscar?
Truth.
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2014, 11:34:41 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
i would maybe even take out the borderline. put that aside and i still think sjj books are garbage. not a fan.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2014, 12:15:32 PM
I meant more why did the republic fail...Ceasar was dead long before the republic failed so I see them as unrelated.
Rome wasn't a republic when it fell, so that may be what is causing the confusion.
Post by: slucat on March 27, 2014, 01:45:38 PM
I read More Bears w my son last night. Just fantastic.
skippyjon is where its at.
borderline racist imo
i would maybe even take out the borderline. put that aside and i still think sjj books are garbage. not a fan.
I like that they are imaginative and fun to read aloud...didn't really think about the "racist" aspect...
Maybe I can redeem myself (or my son) with frequent readings of Curious George?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 01:46:20 PM
I stayed up last night past 3 finishing Lone Survivor. Which is pretty late for me, normally a 1030 or 11pm kinda guy. Anyway it was a good read and I would recommend to people who like military works. These guys are/were tougher than crap. Tough to really imagine, and I'm somewhat left wondering how much is exaggerated or flat out false, because he was the only one who lived to tell about it. I do wish it had more in the way of maps, photographs, etc, but I'm sure it wasn't really supposed to be a book like that. I read it on Kindle, so I'm surprised there wasn't an Afterword II that told of Lutrell's murder.
After thinking about this book over lunch, I have decided it is fiction. It's not a biography, not a non-fiction piece at all.
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2014, 08:19:22 PM
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Actually, I will probably get it on audio. I like to listen to non-fiction on Audio when I do other stuff.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 30, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
I stayed up last night past 3 finishing Lone Survivor. Which is pretty late for me, normally a 1030 or 11pm kinda guy. Anyway it was a good read and I would recommend to people who like military works. These guys are/were tougher than crap. Tough to really imagine, and I'm somewhat left wondering how much is exaggerated or flat out false, because he was the only one who lived to tell about it. I do wish it had more in the way of maps, photographs, etc, but I'm sure it wasn't really supposed to be a book like that. I read it on Kindle, so I'm surprised there wasn't an Afterword II that told of Lutrell's murder.
After thinking about this book over lunch, I have decided it is fiction. It's not a biography, not a non-fiction piece at all.
I think you've got some books confused. Chris Kyle (American Sniper) was the one murdered. Luttrell is alive an well.
The book reads as fiction largely because the ghost writer was a fiction author.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
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Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2014, 08:38:44 PM
I am going to read this
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Actually, I will probably get it on audio. I like to listen to non-fiction on Audio when I do other stuff.
Saw that tonight. Looks very good.
Post by: j rake on April 06, 2014, 02:16:22 PM
Post by: sys on April 06, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
the book has and will change my life and the way i approach a lot of things.
thank god someone was finally able to get through to you.
Post by: Spracne on April 06, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
i tend to overrate things (movies, songs and books) in the moment, but i just finished ...
Stopped reading here.
Post by: j rake on April 06, 2014, 03:32:17 PM
i tend to overrate things (movies, songs and books) in the moment, but i just finished ...
Stopped reading here.
liar. :fatty:
Post by: Spracne on May 12, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 13, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
Just ordered The Signal and the Noise, Naked Statistics, and the first GoT book :sdeek: Need to stock up on material for my vacay.
Sorry about your prison sentence, spracs. Use this time to better yourself and it can be a positive experience. Just keep your head down.
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Just ordered the first GoT book :sdeek:
you just want to find out who littlefinger is don't you
Post by: Spracne on May 13, 2014, 09:37:19 AM
Just ordered the first GoT book :sdeek:
you just want to find out who littlefinger is don't you
I just want to be one of the cool un-cool kids.
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2014, 11:59:29 AM
Still worth the read, though, if you like to cook.
Post by: Pete on May 26, 2014, 05:16:35 PM
Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is. I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more. Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me. I love back story though. Complete sucker for it. I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing. Fun climate for a story. Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.
Started Abercrombie's third book in the series this weekend....really, really enjoying this series. I don't know what I'll do when this one is done, have nothing in my on-deck circle. :frown:
He has three more. Best Served Cold, The Heroes and Red Country (in order). They follow the original three. Some lesser characters with expanded roles (e.g., Shivers, Cosca, Gorst, Calder) and of course new characters and settings. The Heroes might have been my favorite out of all his books. Best Served Cold is solid. Red Country is his worst book imo.
Finished Best Served Cold. I agree, would call it "solid." Going to start the Heroes. After that, I may skip Red Country and read his new one called "Half a King," based on your comments.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 27, 2014, 08:49:33 AM
I read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential over my vacation. It read quick and I was interested in it was basically half cool stuff and half him repeating how his kitchen coworkers are a bunch of misfits and outsiders over and over and over and over and over.
Still worth the read, though, if you like to cook.
his fiction isn't half bad either.
Post by: chum1 on May 27, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
I read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential over my vacation. It read quick and I was interested in it was basically half cool stuff and half him repeating how his kitchen coworkers are a bunch of misfits and outsiders over and over and over and over and over.
Still worth the read, though, if you like to cook.
his fiction isn't half bad either.
I am looking for a good food book. I'll probably just finally read kitchen confidential. There is some reluctant chef book that amazon keeps pushing though that it may just sell me on.
Bourdain's fiction isn't bad either...
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2014, 09:42:15 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 27, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
i would be pissed as hell if i started out to read a work of fiction that wasn't bad, only to discover that it was actually half bad all along.
Post by: Brock Landers on May 27, 2014, 03:37:49 PM
It's a behind the scenes look at how Sega took on Nintendo in the early 90's. Pretty quick read so far.
Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2014, 02:41:44 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 31, 2014, 07:46:16 PM
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
Who has read Infinite Jest? Is it worth the 1000+ pages?
I am 6% through. Just picked it back up after waiting a year or so since starting it. I like it, but need time to get through it. It doesn't flow easy so far.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Who has read Infinite Jest? Is it worth the 1000+ pages?
based on the first 150 +\- pages I've read twice now, NO. I just can't do it. This in the Year of the Depend Undergarments. :goodbyecruelworld:
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Post by: KSUblumpkin on June 03, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
Post by: ew2x4 on June 03, 2014, 03:17:29 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One. Really interesting book to read. It creates an extremely vivid online world with and is dense with 80s references. I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it. Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.
Agreed. Really fun book.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2014, 03:21:46 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One. Really interesting book to read. It creates an extremely vivid online world with and is dense with 80s references. I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it. Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.
Daemon and the sequel are also pretty decent and somewhat similar.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 03, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 03, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One. Really interesting book to read. It creates an extremely vivid online world with and is dense with 80s references. I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it. Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.
Daemon and the sequel are also pretty decent and somewhat similar.
The_Wippuh recommends all three of these as well.
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
Post by: Spracne on June 03, 2014, 08:09:56 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Bubbles NO! :sdeek:
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Bubbles NO! :sdeek:
Of course in the context of a book, length and girth are directly proportional.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 03, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important. :horrorsurprise:primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 04, 2014, 08:39:33 AM
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important. :horrorsurprise:primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
one footnote is a 17pg fimography of a dead character (so I read).
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important. :horrorsurprise:primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
one footnote is a 17pg fimography of a dead character (so I read).
It has lots of clues and it's really pretty funny.
Bottom line though, if you don't want to read it, don't read it. Personally, I could have easily started reading again immediately after I finished.
Post by: 8manpick on June 04, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
Post by: KCFDcat on June 04, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
Adam Resnick's "Will Not Attend" is pretty great if you want an easy fun rea. Just a bunch of short stories about how much he hates people. Very funny.
"The Boys in the Boat" by Daniel James Brown is about the 1936 USA Olympic rowing team. Pretty great. Focuses a lot on the depression and Nazi's. Pretty entertaining, if you like that sorta stuff.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on June 04, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important. :horrorsurprise:primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
I made it through a couple hundred pages on my kindle before I realized that the footnotes are pretty important and that I need to pick up a physical copy :facepalm:
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important. :horrorsurprise:primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
I made it through a couple hundred pages on my kindle before I realized that the footnotes are pretty important and that I need to pick up a physical copy :facepalm:
can't you read the footnotes on a kindle?
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on June 04, 2014, 03:26:21 PM
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important. :horrorsurprise:primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.
I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
I made it through a couple hundred pages on my kindle before I realized that the footnotes are pretty important and that I need to pick up a physical copy :facepalm:
can't you read the footnotes on a kindle?
It's a laborious process, relatively. Also, the function is riddled with glitches like CNS said.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 04, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
I'll probably give it a try. I mean I have a little time here over the next few weeks so maybe I can knock it out. I am currently reading Adam Carolla's Not Taco Bell Material and some of these stories are legit LOL funny.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 04, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 04, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
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I feel like there's been so much written about this book, that it almost seems impossible to try to add anything new to this discussion. However, I will try to lay out reasons to buy/not buy this book as well as a few things people might want to know before jumping into this kind of commitment. INFINITE JEST isn't for everyone, and I don't mean that in a condescending or patronizing way: it will certainly appeal to some people's sensibilities much more than others.
###Here's What You Need to Know###
David Foster Wallace's INFINITE JEST is a postmodern novel with a premodern message. Wallace, who railed against irony, wanted to be sincere in his writing. So while this book does contain many postmodern conventions, its ideas about humanity aren't postmodern at all. I think many people were disappointed that the book is "about addiction, and that's all you need to know," but there is much more to this book, and there's much more that Wallace has to say. Some of these messages are delivered with a heavy hand, and that's fine: Wallace wanted to be sincere, and he wouldn't want to dull his insights by distancing himself from them via irony or whatever else.
This book is indeed incredibly long. INFINITE JEST is notoriously known for being a long book - it's just shy of 1100 pages. Stephen King's THE STAND (uncut edition) and George R.R. Martin's STORM OF SWORDS are longer this, but I was able to clear those books much quicker than David Foster Wallace's second novel. I'm a very slow reader, and I was able to read INFINITE JEST in about two months, without taking into account the time I spent reading two shorter novels by different authors.
This book is indeed incredibly verbose. As a way to rage against the rising popularity of minimalist writing in the 1980's, Wallace found himself moving towards a brand of writing that captured everything: every thought, every action, every detail. His maximalist writing can be hard to get through at time: there's an extended passage detailing a tennis academy's design that seems to go on forever. The discussion of an invented game that involves intermediate calculus to keep score reaches across dozens of pages. Wallace sought to capture everything.
Everything you heard about the endnotes is true. The narration of the book is frequented interrupted with endnotes (different from footnotes), some of which span a dozen pages and contain their own endnotes. These asides are not optional: plot details are frequently hinted at or exposed in these interludes.
READ THIS ON KINDLE IF YOU CAN. I want to stress this point: reading INFINITE JEST is much easier on an eReader for a few reasons. With Kindle, the hassle of flipping back to the endnotes is a burden made much lighter. Each note is hyperlinked to its corresponding section to the back. It's also really easy to highlight, bookmark, make notes of certain areas to revisit if you need. Some important plot elements are given only once in passing, so marking these areas is helpful, and Kindle makes the task really simple. The weight of this mammoth book is also erased with the electronic copy. There are two complaints about the Kindle version however: 1) it's not a real book, and I prefer handling most books (I think we all kind of do, right?) and 2) if you close the eReader while you are in the endnotes, your Kindle will recognize that page as being the further point you've read to. Remedying this situation isn't hard; you'll just need to log onto Amazon and clear your furthest-page-read, but it is a bit annoying.
###Here's Why You Should Buy This Book###
Some of the passages in this novel rank among my favorite all-time sections of writing. While Wallace can be verbose, it can lead to some of the most inventive and poetic turns of phrase. I found myself going back and re-reading many moments as soon as I finished them and highlighting them for later use (I rarely ever do this).
This book is funny, sad, smart, and silly. INFINITE JEST really runs the gamut in terms of emotions that it evokes. I've seen many readers talk about how funny it is, and others that focus on how tragic it is. There are moments in this book that I still reflect on and laugh out loud. There are moments that, when I think about them, make me want to cry. There are even moments in this that give me the goosebumps imagining how horrifying they would be.
INFINITE JEST is filled with tons of ideas and tons of characters. Readers will spend a lot of time with the characters here, and almost all of them are interesting. Some of them are fun, and some of them are despicable. Mario Incandenza ranks among one of my favorite characters in literature. Additionally, this book is full of ideas about addiction, entertainment, society, family, imperialism, Quebec separatism, and tennis. There's a lot of great insight spread out across the novel's length. There's not a ton of plotting to INFINITE JEST, but it's alright: these characters are often compelling enough that readers will want to spend their time with them.
It seems that half of the reason to read INFINITE JEST lies merely in the act of doing it. Most people bail on the book midway through, so finishing the novel is seen as a sort of accomplishment in some circles.
###Here's Why You Should Pass on This Book###
This book is too long. It surprised me to learn that INFINITE JEST had an editor and that sections of the book were excised. There are some stretches where not much seems to happen and no new insights are made. Most books leave me wanting the ending to go on and on forever, but there were times where I was just ready for this novel to be over (strangely enough, not at the ending though).
INFINITE JEST is wildly inconsistent. It probably comes with the territory of maximalist writing, but while some passages of writing are fantastic, some passages are equally dull. While I loved the book, I think it would be hard to argue that this novel is a solid, consistent work. Additionally, the novel frequently jumps (apropos of nothing) to different characters and different times and different settings. The narrative might be dealing with Hal Incandenza at a Boston tennis academy in the future only to suddenly (with, granted a line break) focus on a glimpse of his father in the 1970's. Even more additionally, the writing style changes frequently.
The use of styles can be jarring. I ended up liking this point, but I feel that I may be in the minority on this. Early in the book, an essay written by one of the characters (in high school) is recounted in full. Later, we are treated to stream-of-consciousness via a character we are not familiar with. Later, there are dozens of pages with nothing but dialog (literally, not figuratively), and some passages that are completely without dialog.
There's not much plot here. I haven't talked much about the plot in the above content because there's just not that much to talk about. The premise is: a filmmaker created a video that is so enjoyable, people can't turn away from it or think about anything else. Most of this book focuses in on its settings and characters to make its points.
###Overall... ###
Overall, I gotta say, even for all of its flaws, I really enjoyed INFINITE JEST. Some of the reviewers that rated this book poorly have good points to make, and I would recommend reading these reviews before making the plunge on buying this book. At the end of the day though, if you enjoy postmodern fiction, INFINITE JEST is definitely an experience worth trying.
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Here's more helpful info: http://infinitesummer.org/archives/215
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2014, 02:30:00 PM
I am going to read this
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Actually, I will probably get it on audio. I like to listen to non-fiction on Audio when I do other stuff.
Saw that tonight. Looks very good.
Just finished it, got it on audio and listened on a very long road trip.
Amazing, scary, and somewhat disheartening.
Over $11 Billion annually is getting bilked from investors, and it's probably even double that much. Just "poof," gone into the hands of essentially legitimized cyber thieves in bed with the big banks/brokers.
When your 401K isn't what you want it to be in 20 years, just think about the lost billions (trillions by then?) that were stolen from investors in the form of essentially a "tax" that we all pay to these fucks.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 09, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
Just finished it, got it on audio and listened on a very long road trip.yeah that sucks, but i bet finance is as fair as it's ever been.
Amazing, scary, and somewhat disheartening.
Over $11 Billion annually is getting bilked from investors, and it's probably even double that much. Just "poof," gone into the hands of essentially legitimized cyber thieves in bed with the big banks/brokers.
When your 401K isn't what you want it to be in 20 years, just think about the lost billions (trillions by then?) that were stolen from investors in the form of essentially a "tax" that we all pay to these fucks.
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Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2014, 03:33:49 PM
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
Yes, it's legal scalping is all. It's the government's fault, not really smart people's who are good at making money from nothing.
True, only if you are into ethical relativism. If they made car jacking and murder legal tomorrow, the car jacker murderers would use the same argument.
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2014, 06:13:22 PM
Yes, it's legal scalping is all. It's the government's fault, not really smart people's who are good at making money from nothing.
True, only if you are into ethical relativism. If they made car jacking and murder legal tomorrow, the car jacker murderers would use the same argument.
...and, it's not just "scalping." If you are attempting to buy any meaningful amount of shares, you cannot avoid being "scalped." UNLESS, you use IEX, BUT your broker will more than likely ignore your request to use IEX and eff you straight up the ass and you'll never know, because they don't have to tell you.
Congrats on your ass rough ridin' by your own broker...a broker who COULD have chosen not to eff you, but Governments fault tho.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2014, 09:39:05 PM
It's strange to me you aren't mad at the SEC for allowing it. They could ban it just as easily as they did insider trading and front running. They haven't though, yet it's their job to stop such abuses.
Post by: Pete on June 10, 2014, 07:34:46 AM
It's better than scalping, like if scalpers had first dibs on all the tickets. I don't fault Wall Street guys for making money in a way that the SEC permits. I mean we can get on our high horses and talk down or try to make them feel bad, but I don't think they'll stop on those scores.
It's strange to me you aren't mad at the SEC for allowing it. They could ban it just as easily as they did insider trading and front running. They haven't though, yet it's their job to stop such abuses.
The SEC is in bed with them too, and pretty incapable of enforcement on this.
I think they COULD try and shut the current stuff down using existing rules. It really IS insider trading and front running.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
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Post by: CNS on June 16, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 01:09:02 PM
Post by: CNS on June 16, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
There's a sequel to The Shining out now. Dr. Sleep. I just started it yesterday. :eek:
Read it this fall when it came out. Meh.
Maybe my taste has gone away from King a little bit, but pretty much everything he has done after Wizard and Glass has seemed lazy and uninspired to me.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 01:24:38 PM
Post by: CNS on June 16, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
I'm still going to read it.
You won't hate it. It will move fast and be ok.
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 01:33:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2014, 02:10:51 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.
Saw this at b&n this weekend and almost made an impulse buy. 1984 is my favorite book so I'm interested
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
BAP: knock knock
Rusty: who's there?
BAP: scoop scoop scoop!
Rusty: infinite jest is my favorite book
Post by: CHONGS on June 16, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.Did you finish 2666?
I am really thinking about Infinite Jest. Knowing what books I like, do you think I would enjoy his style?
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 03:58:53 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.
Saw this at b&n this weekend and almost made an impulse buy. 1984 is my favorite book so I'm interested
It's really nothing like 1984, although it's mentioned a bit. 1Q84 is one of the most well crafted storylines I've read. Without spoiling too much, it takes you on a slowly building but decently compelling story and then all of a sudden you find yourself in holy-shitsville and can't put it down.
Mr. Bread, I'm also reading "Nature's Metropolis" about Chicago. It's no "Infinite Jest", but I enjoy it!
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
Post by: Tobias on June 16, 2014, 07:27:56 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.
me too, not terribly far though
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 07:29:02 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.
me too, not terribly far though
The one part I don't get is why they don't just be co authors but that's pretty irrelevant and nitpicky.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 17, 2014, 09:33:34 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 10:13:21 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Oh yeah I was thinking about reading those.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 17, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
it's on my nightstand.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 10:55:26 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
What an unfortunate response. You could just say yes or no. Instead you've not only not answered the question, but also raised the possibility that maybe you dry hump it or j/o to it.
I don't think I would have come to that conclusion unless he said "It is on my nightstand next to a bottle of hand lotion and a box of Kleenex."
I took it to mean that he has not yet read it, but is planning to.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 12:36:32 PM
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
it's on my nightstand.
Wool -> Shift -> Dust
then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
it's on my nightstand.
Wool -> Shift -> Dust
then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)
Shift is a prequel though, so does it really matter?
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
I think it does. It provides the background for the information and actions seen in Dust. In particular for Donald and Solo, as well as the reasons for the dangers that happen in Dust.Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
it's on my nightstand.
Wool -> Shift -> Dust
then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)
Shift is a prequel though, so does it really matter?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
Although the wiki article said Dust is the last one...so is Sand in the same series?
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
I have not read any of these yet, but I am going to start tonight (in the correct order).maaaaaaaybe....(I am not being coy, its up for debate)
Although the wiki article said Dust is the last one...so is Sand in the same series?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 12:59:43 PM
I have not read any of these yet, but I am going to start tonight (in the correct order).maaaaaaaybe....(I am not being coy, its up for debate)
Although the wiki article said Dust is the last one...so is Sand in the same series?
The Amazon page I just read said that Sand is not related to the other works...sounds like it might be in the same universe or something??? I will have to start reading to find out. Thanks for helping me decide on the next series to read. I was having a hard time deciding.
Post by: Pete on June 17, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
Post by: michigancat on June 17, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 09:18:01 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
I've only read the first two chapters but so far sex, murder, and intrigue have been mentioned.
Post by: Cire on June 18, 2014, 01:48:37 PM
Eco is next
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 18, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
it's on my nightstand.
Wool -> Shift -> Dust
then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)
Shift is a prequel though, so does it really matter?
yeah, I screwed up my order and didn't realize until halfway through Dust. I looked into it, and didn't sound like I was going to ruin anything. About 1/4 way in and no issues so far, as mentioned it's all prequel, so really it's kind of fun this way to see the beginnings knowing the end.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 05:51:46 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.
Eco is next
king hates the movie. movie is 10x better tho.
Post by: CNS on June 18, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.
Eco is next
king hates the movie. movie is 10x better tho.
No.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.
Eco is next
king hates the movie. movie is 10x better tho.
No.
i mean, i haven't read the shining since i was in like 6th grade, but the movie is like really rough ridin' good
Post by: ksupamplemousse on June 18, 2014, 06:35:08 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 23, 2014, 09:37:11 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
I'm 2/3 through Wool. :thumbs:
Post by: ew2x4 on June 23, 2014, 01:42:21 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
I'm 2/3 through Wool. :thumbs:
Wool is solid. I have Shift and Dust, havent taken the time to read them. Have heard good things.
Post by: puniraptor on June 23, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
I'm 2/3 through Wool. :thumbs:
Wool is solid. I have Shift and Dust, havent taken the time to read them. Have heard good things.
I really love the concept and business model. wool is great, shift gets very slow and tedious at times.
The author has a problem with doing a great job of building tension and intrigue up to a climactic or revelatory moment, but by the time the twist or revelation is revealed you have already figured it out so it turns out to be kinda meh.
Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2014, 12:45:53 PM
"Nature's Metropolis" is a great book centered on Chicago, but is really a great look at how American western expansion shaped the nation and world as a whole. Can drag on a bit, but still very good.
Post by: ben ji on July 03, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
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Really enoyed reading Mafia and the Machine
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Post by: Spracne on July 03, 2014, 01:38:06 PM
Post by: asava on July 07, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
I finished 1Q84, it was OK. Great first half or two thirds, but I didn't care for the ending. The meshing of reality and fantasy was very well done.
"Nature's Metropolis" is a great book centered on Chicago, but is really a great look at how American western expansion shaped the nation and world as a whole. Can drag on a bit, but still very good.
Have you read any other Murakami? I've not read 1Q84, but Norwegian Wood, A Wild Sheep Chase and Kafka on the Shore were all great. His short story collection, The Elephant Vanishes, is a great bathroom book too, imo.
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2014, 10:47:16 AM
I finished 1Q84, it was OK. Great first half or two thirds, but I didn't care for the ending. The meshing of reality and fantasy was very well done.
"Nature's Metropolis" is a great book centered on Chicago, but is really a great look at how American western expansion shaped the nation and world as a whole. Can drag on a bit, but still very good.
Have you read any other Murakami? I've not read 1Q84, but Norwegian Wood, A Wild Sheep Chase and Kafka on the Shore were all great. His short story collection, The Elephant Vanishes, is a great bathroom book too, imo.
No, but it sounds like his others are probably better and I'll probably try them.
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 07, 2014, 10:03:01 PM
Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 07, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
- before the reservation: :thumbs: :Woot: :thumbs:
- after the reservation: :zzz:
Post by: Kat Kid on July 07, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.
Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
good grief.
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2014, 12:53:30 AM
Lolita is the most well written book I've ever read.
1984 broke my heart but that made me love it even more.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on July 08, 2014, 02:10:03 AM
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 06:56:50 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week. I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.
I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.
Post by: Pete on July 08, 2014, 07:01:47 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week. I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.
I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.
I like the cut of your jib sail, Felix.
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
Ulysses is terrible. Did Joyce establish new boundaries for literature with that book? Sure. Just because he expanded the space for other writers to operate in doesn't make it a good piece of fiction though. It's rough ridin' awful. The story pushed the limits of the amount of boredom that a human being can endure. It wasn't enough to be boring though, he decided to purposefully obfuscate the plot throughout, whilst lyrically masturbating for 700 pages. The fact that he changed literature is the unintended consequence of an egotistical bad person beating the crap out of his readers with a 265,000 word ode to "doing whatever the eff I want, because I'm James Joyce, so eff you!"
Great review. Lots of old literature sucks.
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 08, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week. I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.
I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.
I read a bunch of the Enderverse books. But I got part way through Shadow of the Giant on audiobook and my ipod died and I wasn't motivated enough by the story to make an effort to finish it. Should I make the effort?
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2014, 09:24:09 AM
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 09:41:35 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week. I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.
I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.
I read a bunch of the Enderverse books. But I got part way through Shadow of the Giant on audiobook and my ipod died and I wasn't motivated enough by the story to make an effort to finish it. Should I make the effort?
Yes. The Bean books are all really good. Also, the Homecoming Series and the Alvin Maker series. Good armored shuttle reads, every one.
Post by: asava on July 08, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
Anna Karenina is my favorite of all time. Once raced an ex-girlfriend in reading it. Loved it.
Lolita is the most well written book I've ever read.
1984 broke my heart but that made me love it even more.
Nabokov is the best.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 08, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.
Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
good grief.
stud writer mark twain agrees on the jane austen stuff. http://www.twainquotes.com/Austen_Jane.html
and if you are good griefing me for 1984, well I guess that counts. More of an Animal Farm guy. :dunno:
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 12:53:47 PM
And also At The Mountains of Madness, which was oddly enjoyable despite what has to be the most extensive use of "cyclopean" in all of literature.
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
:D
Post by: Missouriscribe on August 05, 2014, 12:09:57 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 11:11:56 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on August 05, 2014, 12:06:58 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
My cubicle neighbor at work recently loaned me Under the Dome. I hadn't read any Stephen King stuff since the late 90's and I figured it was worth a shot since the guy used to be pretty entertaining. This book is simply awful. There are too many characters to keep track of but it doesn't matter since ***NO SPOILER WARNING SINCE YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO READ THIS BOOK*** almost every single one of them dies anyway. The ending was unbelievably stupid. Oh yeah, the book was 1072 pages long. I kept reading and reading thinking it would get better but it didn't. Joke's on me for reading 1072 pages of absolute garbage.
The lesson: bail on books you don't like early
(UNLESS IT'S INFINITE JEST)
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
http://www.amazon.com/On-Looking-Eleven-Walks-Expert/dp/1439191255
Such rough ridin' awful pretentious prose, I bailed after a chapter and a half. Her previous book was about what dogs smell so joke's on me I guess.
Post by: CHONGS on August 05, 2014, 12:34:30 PM
Post by: CNS on August 05, 2014, 12:45:29 PM
As far as giving up on books early, I have had a real problem lately. I have read the first 100 pg of half a dozen books lately and can't find one that keeps my attention right now. Most of them seem like they should be good, but I just can't get into them right now. Will save for later, I guess.
Now I am on something(Natchez Burning) that I can pretty much guarantee is going to be bland the whole way through, but I actually don't mind picking it up daily. Anyone read it yet?
I hate it when I can't find something that grabs my balls.
Post by: CHONGS on August 05, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on August 05, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
My cubicle neighbor at work recently loaned me Under the Dome. I hadn't read any Stephen King stuff since the late 90's and I figured it was worth a shot since the guy used to be pretty entertaining. This book is simply awful. There are too many characters to keep track of but it doesn't matter since ***NO SPOILER WARNING SINCE YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO READ THIS BOOK*** almost every single one of them dies anyway. The ending was unbelievably stupid. Oh yeah, the book was 1072 pages long. I kept reading and reading thinking it would get better but it didn't. Joke's on me for reading 1072 pages of absolute garbage.
The lesson: bail on books you don't like early
(UNLESS IT'S INFINITE JEST)
Good advice, but by the time I realized how bad it was I was already a few hundred pages into it and figured I was committed at that point. I'm the same way with movies. Although your maximum time committment to a terrible movie is usually about 2 hours whereas this piece of crap book used up most of my leisure time over about 2 weeks.
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2014, 01:00:03 PM
I've been doing a bit of non-fiction lately, but I have to space it out. Need some good ole stories in between all of the facts.
yes, me, too.
I've mentioned it before, but I love George Saunders' short stories as a way to break up non-fiction.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 05, 2014, 01:16:57 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 05, 2014, 01:50:48 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
I'm 2/3 through Wool. :thumbs:
Finished Shift and now I'm on Dust. I start to cry every time they bring up that damn cat.
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 02:17:49 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.
Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.
eff that. I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
I'm 2/3 through Wool. :thumbs:
Finished Shift and now I'm on Dust. I start to cry every time they bring up that damn cat.
I read Wool. It was okay. It did not leave me with the desire to read another one.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 05, 2014, 02:21:35 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.
Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
Anything Kurt Vonnegut.
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.
Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
Anything Kurt Vonnegut.
You should just name the one that you read.
Post by: 8manpick on August 05, 2014, 02:46:07 PM
Vonnegut is awesome, but I can see how a low/medium may not enjoy himEverybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.
Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
Anything Kurt Vonnegut.
You should just name the one that you read.
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
The Day of the Locust, Nathanael West
Less Than Zero, Bret Easton Ellis
Ask the Dust, John Fante
Where I was From, Joan Didion
Slouching Toward Bethlehem, Joan Didion
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2014, 07:41:18 PM
No Steinbeck?
Already read most. But I should also clarify my project further. I was more after stories that might capture unique aspects of the the nature of some of the state's people and places, conveying a distinct California flavor.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 11, 2014, 09:51:29 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 11, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1)
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2014, 10:16:07 AM
As soon as I am done with Capital in the 21st Century.......
http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1)
interesting!
I finished 'A Peace to End All Peace'
http://www.amazon.com/Peace-End-All-Ottoman-Creation/dp/0805088091/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769775&sr=1-1&keywords=peace+to+end+all+peace
Summary: The Middle East borders and leaders of today are for the most part in place because a bunch of bumbling Brits who had no idea what they were doing carved up the Ottoman Empire during World War I among the allies (BEFORE THEY HAD SET FOOT ON OTTOMAN TERRITORY MIND YOU.) The Brits had a comical series of misadventures along the way before losing interest (and money) after the war and saying, "well, I guess we did promise we'd do this five years ago during WWI, so here ya go". It's kind of infuriating. Also the author didn't care much for TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) and basically called him a big fat liar the entire book, but the Brits thought he was awesome because he war Arabian clothes.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 11, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2014, 10:31:51 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 11, 2014, 10:32:53 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Post by: TownieCat on September 16, 2014, 10:06:10 AM
A few more specific book questions... Has anyone read Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan? And if I were to pick up one of the Game of Thrones books where would I want to start based on where the TV show is now, or is it just an awful idea to pick up a book in the middle of the series?
TIA
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2014, 10:23:01 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on September 16, 2014, 10:25:42 AM
I have about 30 hours worth of flights in the next month so was thinking about picking up a book for the first time in a long time... Not really much of a reader, so any expertise you guys can offer would be appreciated. Any must reads out there?
A few more specific book questions... Has anyone read Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan? And if I were to pick up one of the Game of Thrones books where would I want to start based on where the TV show is now, or is it just an awful idea to pick up a book in the middle of the series?
TIA
all of the GoT books are long, but the 1st one would go super fast on a plane.
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
I have about 30 hours worth of flights in the next month so was thinking about picking up a book for the first time in a long time... Not really much of a reader, so any expertise you guys can offer would be appreciated. Any must reads out there?
A few more specific book questions... Has anyone read Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan? And if I were to pick up one of the Game of Thrones books where would I want to start based on where the TV show is now, or is it just an awful idea to pick up a book in the middle of the series?
TIA
I would guess the Gaffigan book wouldn't take very long.
I would recommend the Wool series if you haven't read for a while before getting into GoT. But definitely start from the beginning if you go w/ GoT as everyone has said.
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 16, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
Post by: TownieCat on September 16, 2014, 11:04:45 AM
I think that you would enjoy the writings of David Sedaris.
Any specific one that you like best? Let's Explore Diabetes with Owls was a recommendation from Amazon when I looked into Dad is Fat.
Post by: Fldermaus on September 16, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
A lot of great options to work with here. Thanks, gE!I think that you would enjoy the writings of David Sedaris.
Any specific one that you like best? Let's Explore Diabetes with Owls was a recommendation from Amazon when I looked into Dad is Fat.
imo, Me Talk Pretty One Day is Sedaris' best.
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 16, 2014, 11:29:13 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 16, 2014, 01:36:25 PM
I also second the suggestions of the Wool Series and start at the beginning of GoT.
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
Post by: Cire on September 17, 2014, 06:03:03 AM
Summer moon
Crazy horse and custer. Stephan ambrose
The heart of everything that is.
All really good.
Post by: michigancat on September 17, 2014, 07:10:12 AM
I've been reading a lot of native American history.
Summer moon
Crazy horse and custer. Stephan ambrose
The heart of everything that is.
All really good.
I bet it's all incredibly depressing and makes you less impressed with the good ole US of A
Post by: AU_Tigers on September 17, 2014, 07:27:33 AM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.
:lol:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 17, 2014, 08:28:57 AM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.
I read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and that was pretty entertaining. :dunno:
Post by: Cire on September 17, 2014, 09:22:47 AM
I've been reading a lot of native American history.
Summer moon
Crazy horse and custer. Stephan ambrose
The heart of everything that is.
All really good.
I bet it's all incredibly depressing and makes you less impressed with the good ole US of A
crazy horse one was sad for him and GAC
red cloud one is less about RC than about strategies/tactics on both sides. Not as sad.
Going to read a Jesse James Bio next maybe.
Or sitting bull
Post by: Cire on September 17, 2014, 09:24:42 AM
And the idea of sending 500 guys out to find another 500 guys trying to not be found in an area the size of Montana is crazy.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on September 17, 2014, 08:28:51 PM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.
Jane Austen was the reality television of her day. No depth to her books. Nice trappings and (mildly) interesting plot twists, but nothing goes more than surface deep.
Post by: The_Wippuh on September 19, 2014, 10:41:53 AM
Post by: michigancat on September 19, 2014, 10:42:14 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 19, 2014, 10:49:41 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 19, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.
The beginning is a little slow but it gets better.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 19, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.
The beginning is a little slow but it gets better.
yeah, i guess i meant that the reading is slow. the story has me by the balls about 50 pages in. it just has a ton of description and background to everything, making it really hard to dive into.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 19, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.
The beginning is a little slow but it gets better.
yeah, i guess i meant that the reading is slow. the story has me by the balls about 50 pages in. it just has a ton of description and background to everything, making it really hard to dive into.
Dark Places also by Gillian Flynn is also good, although I like Gone Girl more.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 23, 2014, 10:47:37 AM
"what chapter are you on?"
"uhh... just started part 2."
"oh have you gotten to the part where **drops massive spoiler bomb**??"
"wtf? why would you say that? did you read ahead?"
"yeah, i read the last 2 chapters because i wanted to know what happens!"
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2014, 11:01:35 AM
was sitting around after the Royals game last night reading a few chapters of Gone Girl. ms tonya started reading yesterday...
"what chapter are you on?"
"uhh... just started part 2."
"oh have you gotten to the part where **drops massive spoiler bomb**??"
"wtf? why would you say that? did you read ahead?"
"yeah, i read the last 2 chapters because i wanted to know what happens!"
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
mods, move this to the dating thread so we can tell tonya to kick this gal to the curb
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 23, 2014, 11:06:06 AM
was sitting around after the Royals game last night reading a few chapters of Gone Girl. ms tonya started reading yesterday...
"what chapter are you on?"
"uhh... just started part 2."
"oh have you gotten to the part where **drops massive spoiler bomb**??"
"wtf? why would you say that? did you read ahead?"
"yeah, i read the last 2 chapters because i wanted to know what happens!"
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
WTF! Really, really jerk move on her part.
Post by: Mr Bread on September 23, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 23, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
Only a psychopath skips to the last two chapters of the book.
Even a psychopath wouldn't have then spoiled it for someone in the middle of the book.
Post by: mocat on September 23, 2014, 11:10:07 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 23, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
but still... who does that? why read a book if youre just gonna find out the ending out of order?
Post by: Fedor on September 23, 2014, 01:11:19 PM
luckily the spoiler wasnt the VERY end of the book, it was from a few chapters from where i was.Noted psychopath Mrs. Fedor skips to the end. It does not seem to ruin the book for her.
but still... who does that? why read a book if youre just gonna find out the ending out of order?
Post by: SdK on September 23, 2014, 01:14:16 PM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.Loved both
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 23, 2014, 01:15:58 PM
luckily the spoiler wasnt the VERY end of the book, it was from a few chapters from where i was.Noted psychopath Mrs. Fedor skips to the end. It does not seem to ruin the book for her.
but still... who does that? why read a book if youre just gonna find out the ending out of order?
But does she tell you the ending if you are reading the same book?
Also, how does she know it didn't ruin it? Maybe it would have been 10x better if she had waited.
Post by: 8manpick on September 23, 2014, 06:58:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 23, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Post by: Pete on September 23, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
I'm still pissed that this thread led me to read Dirty White Boys :shakesfist:
Tony Korheiser will give you your money back.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 25, 2014, 09:00:50 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 25, 2014, 09:31:12 AM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.
Did you not like the surprise thing or the very ending?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 25, 2014, 01:36:03 PM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.
Did you not like the surprise thing or the very ending?
both, really.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 25, 2014, 03:05:05 PM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.
Did you not like the surprise thing or the very ending?
both, really.
I didn't really like how everything end up, but then again usually when I am mad about something in a book I think it must have been good to evoke that kind of emotion.
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
Post by: The_Wippuh on October 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Stevenson
Incredible writing and the story is a lot different than what I expected. The tale stays true at the core but Stevenson's story has been interpreted in so many different ways over the years that the original is almost forgotten. Do yourself and read it. Very short and worth it.
Post by: Pete on October 05, 2014, 10:45:54 AM
Going to hit you guys with an oldie that I was totally caught off guard with...
Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Stevenson
Incredible writing and the story is a lot different than what I expected. The tale stays true at the core but Stevenson's story has been interpreted in so many different ways over the years that the original is almost forgotten. Do yourself and read it. Very short and worth it.
Interesting suggestion. Sounds better than most of the heads disappeared up your own ass stuff that MichiganCat suggests in this thread.
Post by: The_Wippuh on October 09, 2014, 01:46:21 PM
Trying to figure out what I want to read of his next.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 10, 2014, 10:22:25 PM
Post by: Canary on October 13, 2014, 08:19:12 AM
Why is wool not on google playTrying to knit a sweater?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 13, 2014, 08:25:16 AM
Why is wool not on google play
Here it is.
https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Hugh_Howey_Ull?id=6ytgAwAAQBAJ
I hope you read Swedish.
Post by: Cire on October 13, 2014, 09:41:30 PM
stonewall Jackson bio.
Good
Post by: star seed 7 on October 13, 2014, 10:26:22 PM
Why is wool not on google play
Here it is.
https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Hugh_Howey_Ull?id=6ytgAwAAQBAJ
I hope you read Swedish.
got it on kindle instead. really really enjoyed the holdsten part. about 120 pages in so far and it's enjoyable.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 14, 2014, 08:52:35 AM
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 20, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
Going to hit you guys with an oldie that I was totally caught off guard with...I actually read this while I was in the hospital over the summer. I had owned a collection of his short stories with this one in it for quite and had never read it. I agree with your thoughts. Out of the stories in the collection, I enjoyed The Suicide Club the most.
Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Stevenson
Incredible writing and the story is a lot different than what I expected. The tale stays true at the core but Stevenson's story has been interpreted in so many different ways over the years that the original is almost forgotten. Do yourself and read it. Very short and worth it.
I just picked up Child of God by Cormac McCarthy for another read-through. I really enjoy his writing. If I don't move on to something new after this, I'll probably reread The Border Trilogy or Blood Meridian.
Post by: slucat on October 21, 2014, 08:35:26 AM
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
Serena by Ron Rash. :thumbs:
I just read the description of this book. It seems deeply depressing and not enjoyable. What did you like about this book?
Post by: Mr Bread on November 10, 2014, 12:43:26 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on November 10, 2014, 12:45:33 PM
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
I read both of Rothfuss' books. They were okay. He's not afraid to be repetitious as hell. Hey that was a fun scene, I'll redo that crap every 50 pages or so.
I don't disagree, but I had fun reading these books.
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2014, 02:16:03 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 12, 2014, 10:10:02 PM
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2014, 12:27:10 PM
Been reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.Asimov on re-reading it: "I read it with mounting uneasiness. I kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did. All three volumes, all the nearly quarter of a million words, consisted of thoughts and of conversation. No action. No physical suspense."
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 13, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
Been reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.Asimov on re-reading it: "I read it with mounting uneasiness. I kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did. All three volumes, all the nearly quarter of a million words, consisted of thoughts and of conversation. No action. No physical suspense."
James Gunn on the Foundation series: "Action and romance have little to do with the success of the Trilogy—virtually all the action takes place offstage, and the romance is almost invisible—but the stories provide a detective-story fascination with the permutations and reversals of ideas.”
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
:peek: it is one of my favorite series'. Just saw that quote on Grantland todayBeen reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.Asimov on re-reading it: "I read it with mounting uneasiness. I kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did. All three volumes, all the nearly quarter of a million words, consisted of thoughts and of conversation. No action. No physical suspense."
James Gunn on the Foundation series: "Action and romance have little to do with the success of the Trilogy—virtually all the action takes place offstage, and the romance is almost invisible—but the stories provide a detective-story fascination with the permutations and reversals of ideas.”
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 13, 2014, 01:28:14 PM
Post by: Cire on November 13, 2014, 01:34:42 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 13, 2014, 02:15:33 PM
Do you like the rest of her stuff?
Post by: Mr Bread on November 13, 2014, 05:28:36 PM
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel. Hilarious. @chingon, it kind of reminds me of Sotweed Factor but a little easier to read.
That looks like it's right in my wheelhouse. I also learned that I am a Byronic hero when I went to look it up.
Quote
"a man proud, moody, cynical, with defiance on his brow, and misery in his heart, a scorner of his kind, implacable in revenge, yet capable of deep and strong affection"
:eek:
Quote
He knew himself a villain—but he deem'd
The rest no better than the thing he seem'd;
And scorn'd the best as hypocrites who hid
Those deeds the bolder spirit plainly did.
Like if somebody was to tell you to describe me, you would have written that assuming you were capable. Amazing!
Post by: ascentofstan on December 21, 2014, 06:26:31 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fc%2Fc3%2FThe_Martian_2014.jpg&hash=836dbb07970d9aa02e774f2effc141aab26dbd1f)
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2014, 09:41:19 PM
You're going to want to read this before the Ridley Scott/Matt Damon movie comes out next year.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fc%2Fc3%2FThe_Martian_2014.jpg&hash=836dbb07970d9aa02e774f2effc141aab26dbd1f)
is it actually good or is it like mission to Mars bad?
Post by: ascentofstan on December 22, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
You're going to want to read this before the Ridley Scott/Matt Damon movie comes out next year.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fc%2Fc3%2FThe_Martian_2014.jpg&hash=836dbb07970d9aa02e774f2effc141aab26dbd1f)
is it actually good or is it like mission to Mars bad?
It's like 2001: A Space Odyssey good (but like the film good, not the novel written concurrently with the film)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 22, 2014, 12:06:26 PM
It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 05, 2015, 08:31:15 AM
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series. Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Did you read Shift too?
it's on my nightstand.
Wool -> Shift -> Dust
then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)
I just read Sand over the holiday break. It was pretty good, maybe better than Wool.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 05, 2015, 11:28:04 AM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.
It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.
finished it last night....that took longer than I thought. Interesting story though.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 05, 2015, 11:37:24 AM
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 11:38:12 AM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.
It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.
finished it last night....that took longer than I thought. Interesting story though.
Did you like the ending?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 05, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-Scandal-Selling/dp/030734682X
Post by: Dub on January 05, 2015, 12:16:25 PM
Need someone to push me in a direction.
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Debating on what book I should start reading. I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it? I also have considered The Road. I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well.
Need someone to push me in a direction.
well I just named a book I think everyone should read. Just a thought.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 05, 2015, 12:47:34 PM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.
It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.
finished it last night....that took longer than I thought. Interesting story though.
Did you like the ending?
it was ok, but a bit of a letdown after the rest.
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 05, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 05, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 05, 2015, 05:13:22 PM
Finished wool and shift. About a quarter through dust. I liked shift much more.
Except the solo chapters. I want to take a lead pipe to solo's head
Post by: Cire on January 05, 2015, 09:04:31 PM
I'm reading Hubris about the intelligence failures and poor decision making leading up to and during the Iraq War. It's mostly really interesting but goddam that Valerie Wilson leak investigation is such a snooze fest. Still a book everyone should read.Just watch Bush's war
http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-Scandal-Selling/dp/030734682X
Post by: Skipper44 on January 06, 2015, 09:39:31 AM
Debating on what book I should start reading. I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it? I also have considered The Road. I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well.I watched season 1 then read the first 2 books and i think it really helped keep all the characters straight. After season 2 i read all the remaining books and kind of lost my enthusiasm for watching the show a few episodes into season 4 :dunno:
Need someone to push me in a direction.
The Road affected my like no other book, like seriously made start to think about becoming a prepper. I love all of McCarthy's books tho, have you read any of the others?
Post by: 8manpick on January 06, 2015, 09:52:51 AM
Post by: Dub on January 06, 2015, 10:19:05 AM
Debating on what book I should start reading. I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it? I also have considered The Road. I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well.I watched season 1 then read the first 2 books and i think it really helped keep all the characters straight. After season 2 i read all the remaining books and kind of lost my enthusiasm for watching the show a few episodes into season 4 :dunno:
Need someone to push me in a direction.
The Road affected my like no other book, like seriously made start to think about becoming a prepper. I love all of McCarthy's books tho, have you read any of the others?
Nope, figured that would be the one to start with since it's got so much national praise. What other ones are your favorites?
Post by: Fldermaus on January 06, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
The Road is great. I seriously wouldn't recommend it to anyone with kids, though. It really does affect you.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 06, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
I have really liked all that I have read. No Country for Old Men is maybe the most straightforward, I would start there unless you have seen the movie and are one that doesn't like reading the book after. Any of the Border Trilogy would be good if you like westerns.Debating on what book I should start reading. I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it? I also have considered The Road. I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well.I watched season 1 then read the first 2 books and i think it really helped keep all the characters straight. After season 2 i read all the remaining books and kind of lost my enthusiasm for watching the show a few episodes into season 4 :dunno:
Need someone to push me in a direction.
The Road affected my like no other book, like seriously made start to think about becoming a prepper. I love all of McCarthy's books tho, have you read any of the others?
Nope, figured that would be the one to start with since it's got so much national praise. What other ones are your favorites?
Blood Meridian is the weirdest and wouldn't be a great first McCarthy to read - his style takes a little getting used to.
Suttree is the saddest, which is really saying something so maybe not that one either. I actually haven't finished the last hundred or so pages, had to just put it down and haven't brought myself to pick it back up.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
Currently reading Blood Meridian. Very good, but kind of hard for me to get through. Just enough Spanish that is important to the story to be a pain. Love All The Pretty Horses and No Country for Old Men
Glad I read this on my tablet. I had to highlight and look up a lot of words.
Post by: CHONGS on February 10, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Not terrible, the first 50 pages or so are pretty damn rough and should have been re-written. Names for people and places are dumb. Interesting enough plot.
Will probably read the next book when it comes out.
If you like fantasy (which I generally do not) this might be up your alley.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 10, 2015, 04:24:10 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 04:25:35 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 10, 2015, 04:35:16 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?
the best book is his first, hunt for red october. ive only read a few tho.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 04:39:51 PM
Just finished up: The Shadow Of What Was Lost
Not terrible, the first 50 pages or so are pretty damn rough and should have been re-written. Names for people and places are dumb. Interesting enough plot.
Will probably read the next book when it comes out.
If you like fantasy (which I generally do not) this might be up your alley.
How did you come to read this?
Post by: CHONGS on February 10, 2015, 04:46:47 PM
Kindle Unlimited. I figured I should try being more fair to genres of literature that I used to not like. In particular what prompted this was reading some collections of short mystery stories (also Kindle Unlimited). I like short stories a lot, but I have never really read any detective/mystery stuff besides Conan Doyle. So, I gave it a shot figuring they are short and free. I ended up really enjoying about half of them. This made me realize I should go back and revisit some genres like fantasy/scifi that I used to strongly avoid.Just finished up: The Shadow Of What Was Lost
Not terrible, the first 50 pages or so are pretty damn rough and should have been re-written. Names for people and places are dumb. Interesting enough plot.
Will probably read the next book when it comes out.
If you like fantasy (which I generally do not) this might be up your alley.
How did you come to read this?
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 04:47:32 PM
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations. Three books that start with Theft of Swords. They were not amazing, but still very good. There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12). They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Have you read any Sanderson? I see his name thrown around.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 04:59:03 PM
Hmm idk if I would like reading in Connery's voice.Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?
the best book is his first, hunt for red october. ive only read a few tho.
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations. Three books that start with Theft of Swords. They were not amazing, but still very good. There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12). They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Have you read any Sanderson? I see his name thrown around.
I don't think I have. What is his/her best?
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Sanderson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Sanderson)
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2015, 06:11:55 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations. Three books that start with Theft of Swords. They were not amazing, but still very good. There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12). They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Have you read any Sanderson? I see his name thrown around.
I am a fan of Sanderson. If you like Fantasy, go back and read Bread and my posts in this thread.
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations. Three books that start with Theft of Swords. They were not amazing, but still very good. There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12). They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Have you read any Sanderson? I see his name thrown around.
I don't think I have. What is his/her best?
I read the Mistborn series. It was fun, clever, and different than most.
Brent Weeks is a fun author too. Night Angel series was a good time.
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
Hmm idk if I would like reading in Connery's voice.Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?
the best book is his first, hunt for red october. ive only read a few tho.
I really should start reading Clancy. You have inspired me.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 10, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 10, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 10, 2015, 06:28:17 PM
I can loan you no country for old Men!
It is excellent. As good as the movie is the book is just as good and may even surpass it. I hesitate though because of just how incredible Jones is in the film. I thought they were companions and worked very well together.
I liked it so much I even stole the idea and wrote a mean post about Snyder using the sheriff as the vehicle to mock him.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 10, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?
they are all pretty god through Sum of All Fears. Stephen Coonts is kind of a "Clancy Lite" (meaning they are 400 pages, not 800).
Post by: star seed 7 on February 10, 2015, 07:26:51 PM
I can loan you no country for old Men!
It is excellent. As good as the movie is the book is just as good and may even surpass it. I hesitate though because of just how incredible Jones is in the film. I thought they were companions and worked very well together.
I liked it so much I even stole the idea and wrote a mean post about Snyder using the sheriff as the vehicle to mock him.
it's the most screenplayey book i've ever seen
Post by: ben ji on February 10, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
Think hunger games mixed with 1984 set in space.
Also "Red Storm Rising" is my favorite Clancy book.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 09:40:26 PM
Thanks. Pete and I will begin reading immediately.Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?
they are all pretty god through Sum of All Fears. Stephen Coonts is kind of a "Clancy Lite" (meaning they are 400 pages, not 800).
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 09:49:44 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 11, 2015, 08:22:48 AM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations. Three books that start with Theft of Swords. They were not amazing, but still very good. There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12). They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Have you read any Sanderson? I see his name thrown around.
I don't think I have. What is his/her best?
I read the Mistborn series. It was fun, clever, and different than most.
Brent Weeks is a fun author too. Night Angel series was a good time.
The only Sanderson books I have read are the Wheel of Time ones that he wrote after Robert Jordan died. I think I need to read the Mistborn. I read a couple of chapters of the first one online and then never got around to getting the book.
Post by: Jabeez on February 11, 2015, 09:32:43 AM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations. Three books that start with Theft of Swords. They were not amazing, but still very good. There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12). They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.
They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Have you read any Sanderson? I see his name thrown around.
I don't think I have. What is his/her best?
I read the Mistborn series. It was fun, clever, and different than most.
Brent Weeks is a fun author too. Night Angel series was a good time.
The only Sanderson books I have read are the Wheel of Time ones that he wrote after Robert Jordan died. I think I need to read the Mistborn. I read a couple of chapters of the first one online and then never got around to getting the book.
As someone who pretends to hate teen drama fiction, I was surprised I really enjoyed the mistborn series as well.
Post by: Pete on February 12, 2015, 04:56:06 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 12, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.
He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Read it on your recommendation in this thread a couple years ago :thumbs:I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.
He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 12, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2015, 07:50:45 PM
what's it's called? Sounds awesomeRead it on your recommendation in this thread a couple years ago :thumbs:I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.
He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Post by: 114Hickory on February 12, 2015, 08:12:16 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2015, 11:10:29 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2015, 08:06:42 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 13, 2015, 08:15:00 AM
what's it's called? Sounds awesomeRead it on your recommendation in this thread a couple years ago :thumbs:I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.
He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
PM me your address and I will send it to you.
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 08:53:13 AM
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Post by: CNS on February 17, 2015, 11:37:52 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 17, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.
man, thats gotta be a long listen.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2015, 11:41:41 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2015, 11:43:11 AM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.
man, thats gotta be a long listen.
~48 hours, but you can adjust the pace in audible without changing the pitch so it will go a bit quicker.
Post by: Tobias on February 17, 2015, 12:24:31 PM
Post by: Fedor on February 17, 2015, 01:32:45 PM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.I just started reading this yesterday! :thumbs:
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Post by: CHONGS on February 17, 2015, 05:02:51 PM
The Apprentice: My Life in the Kitchen by Jacques Pépin
It's pretty damn good. He has some great stories.
Post by: star seed 7 on February 19, 2015, 08:23:10 PM
:love: eff you punctuation
Post by: CNS on February 27, 2015, 04:14:08 PM
Just starting Gone Girl. Want to knock it out before the movie hits rentals.Meh
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 02, 2015, 08:05:41 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 03, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 03, 2015, 11:53:36 AM
guys I have sucked so bad at reading lately. motivate me.
Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice as high.
Take a look, it's in a book, a Reading Rainbow!
I can go anywhere.
Friends to know,
and ways to grow.
A Reading Rainbow!
I can be anything.
Take a look,
it's in a book.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow!
A Reading Rainbow!
Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice as high.
I can go anywhere.
Friends to know,
A Reading Rainbow!
I can be anything.
Take a look,
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow!
Take a look, it's in a book, a Reading Rainbow!
I can go anywhere.
and ways to grow.
A Reading Rainbow!
I can be anything.
it's in a book.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow!
A Reading Rainbow!
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 03, 2015, 12:39:45 PM
guys I have sucked...
I thought this was in reference to the gay porn book for a second.
Post by: Dub on March 03, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.
man, thats gotta be a long listen.
Just started reading 1Q84 too. Pretty good so far, didn't realize how long it was before I started (Kindle). :runaway:
Post by: Brock Landers on March 03, 2015, 01:13:12 PM
All the Stones wanted to do when they first started was to make enough money to pay Charlie Watts to join them and to buy their own guitar strings.
Mick was/is suprisingly insecure for one of the most successful lead singers ever. At one point Mick wanted to retitle the band as Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones.
And the urban legend of Keith snorting his father's ashes was addressed. Did he? Yes, but not mixed with coke like the rumors said. He was moving his father's ashes and some of them fell out of the container and onto a table. Instead of just brushing the ashes onto the floor he swiped them up with his finger and then snorted.
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 03:21:08 PM
Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.
Post by: CHONGS on March 05, 2015, 03:47:32 PM
Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.yup, just like ASOIAF imho
Post by: CHONGS on March 05, 2015, 03:48:42 PM
The Cheese and the Worms
pretty interesting stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on March 05, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.yup, just like ASOIAF imho
And also would make a great hbo show!
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 09:26:46 PM
I'm super pumped for Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell on BBC. That had a great story AND fantastic dialogue.Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.yup, just like ASOIAF imho
And also would make a great hbo show!
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 05, 2015, 11:41:35 PM
http://www.openculture.com/2013/08/cormac-mccarthys-punctuation-rules.html
:love: eff you punctuation
such a boss.
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:09:25 PM
Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan. It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex. Like a geez guy amount of it. I suppose it was okay on the whole.
Any chance you mean two chicks :sad:
"OK on the whole" isn't the greatest endorsement you have ever given.
Have you read the Black Company series? I haven't, but have contemplated it frequently.
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
I'm super pumped for Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell on BBC. That had a great story AND fantastic dialogue.
if it's like the book the first 12 episodes will be about giving you the feel of a forest or a house or something and really getting close up on what it looks like and immersing the watcher in this rough ridin' place without anything actually happening.
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:58:46 PM
Is that the one with Half a King, or whatevs? If so, not good? I bought the HaK book but haven't read yet.
Ya, it was good. I was entertained. Just started the second one. I think people are just grumpy that Abercrombie stooped to YA.
Post by: Fedor on April 07, 2015, 01:35:34 PM
I have read it and enjoyed it. I don't think I went all the way through them.Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan. It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex. Like a geez guy amount of it. I suppose it was okay on the whole.
Any chance you mean two chicks :sad:
"OK on the whole" isn't the greatest endorsement you have ever given.
Have you read the Black Company series? I haven't, but have contemplated it frequently.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 07, 2015, 02:21:49 PM
Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan. It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex. Like a geez guy amount of it. I suppose it was okay on the whole.
Any chance you mean two chicks :sad:
"OK on the whole" isn't the greatest endorsement you have ever given.
Have you read the Black Company series? I haven't, but have contemplated it frequently.
Not two ladies. I was in a mood when I wrote that. Have not read the black company.
Post by: sys on April 07, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
Have you read the Black Company series?
i read one once. got bored with it, not sure if i finished it. i used to like his fantasy/detective books a little.
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM
Have you read the Black Company series?
i read one once. got bored with it, not sure if i finished it. i used to like his fantasy/detective books a little.
I don't really like most detective books. I don't care for the whole "who dunnit" thing. I have really gotten into fantasy over the last 7 or 8 years.
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2015, 01:44:45 PM
http://www.amazon.com/American-Nations-History-Regional-Cultures/dp/0143122029/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428950376&sr=8-1&keywords=American+Nations%3A+A+History+of+the+Eleven+Rival+Regional+Cultures+of+North+America
The first half, about how different the colonies were, was really, really good. Then the second half he tried to make every major event in American history fit into his neat little boundaries he created in the first half. It definitely made me want to learn more about New France and Champlain but overall it was pretty meh just because of the awful second half.
Also reading The Savage Detectives. Like, hardly anything seems to happen, but I love it.
Post by: CHONGS on April 13, 2015, 01:51:53 PM
Also reading The Savage Detectives. Like, hardly anything seems to happen, but I love it.That on my to-do list. I am excited about it.
Post by: 8manpick on April 13, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2015, 01:59:02 PM
Does it do a complete 180 anytime soon?
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 15, 2015, 04:07:36 PM
Dirty White Boys. I am two chapters in. Does it get any better? I mean, so far this guy has used roughly half a chapter to describe the main guy's dick and also used "bulging muscles" to describe the same guy something like 3 times over a period of 1-2 pages. The first chapter is quite possible the worst chapter I have read, of any book, for a very long time.
Does it do a complete 180 anytime soon?
I thought it was okay, aside from all the graphic homoeroticism.
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2015, 04:47:21 PM
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Post by: Pete on April 16, 2015, 07:10:54 AM
i just finished the night angel books and they're easily as good as those. #recommendation
OK, OK.
I am almost done with this dorky YA Abercrombie book.
Post by: 8manpick on April 16, 2015, 09:14:49 AM
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
I just read this. Quick read, really interesting point of view and very intense.
Post by: Fedor on April 16, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
I'm about 1/3 the way through 1Q84 and I'm still not quite sure wtf is going on but it has my balls.I am at the same place, but I know what is going on and it is only cupping my balls right now.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 16, 2015, 04:18:29 PM
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski
I just read this. Quick read, really interesting point of view and very intense.
I rough ridin' love Bukowski.
Post by: Pete on April 19, 2015, 05:25:03 PM
well now i'm puzzled as to why you don't want read my gay sex books.
Just downloaded The Steel Remains. It's on your head if this turns me into a gay.
The second Abercrombie YA book, Half the World, was decent at best, and very YA....very predictable dialog and "jabs" between characters.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 19, 2015, 08:11:22 PM
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Post by: Pete on April 20, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense. Raw. You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual. #petesayhellotopete
I am about 15% through it and no boners yet. I will face this head on, and won't skip it!
I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 21, 2015, 02:20:47 PM
It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense. Raw. You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual. #petesayhellotopete
I am about 15% through it and no boners yet. I will face this head on, and won't skip it!
I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.
yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology.
apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely. i'm going to read them at some point.
Post by: CNS on April 21, 2015, 02:50:25 PM
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Meh.
It read quickly and wasn't complete dog crap.
It was better than Dr. Sleep, but pretty much on par with what he has pumped out lately.
Also, the alleged return to horror is completely false. He really needs more cocaine in his life.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 27, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:30:31 PM
Don't waste your time on Revival.
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Post by: Pete on May 10, 2015, 01:54:43 PM
It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense. Raw. You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual. #petesayhellotopete
I am about 15% through it and no boners yet. I will face this head on, and won't skip it!
I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.
yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology.
apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely. i'm going to read them at some point.
Finished The Steel Remains. The hot gay action was just as you said it would be, and no boners. Was I mildly curious? I won't discuss that in polite book thread company.
Have you read the rest in the series?
Post by: Mr Bread on May 11, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense. Raw. You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual. #petesayhellotopete
I am about 15% through it and no boners yet. I will face this head on, and won't skip it!
I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.
yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology.
apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely. i'm going to read them at some point.
Finished The Steel Remains. The hot gay action was just as you said it would be, and no boners. Was I mildly curious? I won't discuss that in polite book thread company.
Have you read the rest in the series?
Yeah. I liked them. Would recommend. I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence. It's good too. You should read it next if you haven't. More dark even than GRRM or Abercrombie though.
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense. Raw. You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual. #petesayhellotopete
I am about 15% through it and no boners yet. I will face this head on, and won't skip it!
I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.
yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology.
apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely. i'm going to read them at some point.
Finished The Steel Remains. The hot gay action was just as you said it would be, and no boners. Was I mildly curious? I won't discuss that in polite book thread company.
Have you read the rest in the series?
Yeah. I liked them. Would recommend. I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence. It's good too. You should read it next if you haven't. More dark even than GRRM or Abercrombie though.
Will do
Post by: SdK on May 11, 2015, 11:26:32 AM
Post by: SdK on May 11, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
Dragon Tattoo TrilogyAlso the Swedish movies are much better.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 11, 2015, 11:30:28 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy
Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
Post by: SdK on May 13, 2015, 01:16:41 AM
Written by who? Larsson died in 2004 and those were the last three manuscripts he turned in.Dragon Tattoo Trilogy
Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 08:11:24 AM
Written by who? Larsson died in 2004 and those were the last three manuscripts he turned in.Dragon Tattoo Trilogy
Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
They got a new author.
David Lagercrantz
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 08:15:54 AM
Nice of SD to leave right when I am in the middle of this crisis.
Post by: SdK on May 13, 2015, 09:08:02 AM
I'll give it a go. I'm excited for a fourth book. Thanks for letting me know. :DWritten by who? Larsson died in 2004 and those were the last three manuscripts he turned in.Dragon Tattoo Trilogy
Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
They got a new author.
David Lagercrantz
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 03:56:07 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Ambition-Chasing-Fortune-Truth/dp/1491581441
I'm about 1/4 of the way through and it's really nice so far. The author does a nice job using personal stories to highlight how and why recent changes in Chinese policy have changed things.
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2015, 04:06:58 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
You are a fast reader. I am only half through the "Cold Commands." This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 04:10:17 PM
I settled on this non-fiction book - thanks for nothing, guys:
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Ambition-Chasing-Fortune-Truth/dp/1491581441
I'm about 1/4 of the way through and it's really nice so far. The author does a nice job using personal stories to highlight how and why recent changes in Chinese policy have changed things.
i can't tell that you read those books.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
You are a fast reader. I am only half through the "Cold Commands." This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered. like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way? i love backstory and revelations.
i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett. it seems pretty solid so far. your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
I settled on this non-fiction book - thanks for nothing, guys:
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Ambition-Chasing-Fortune-Truth/dp/1491581441
I'm about 1/4 of the way through and it's really nice so far. The author does a nice job using personal stories to highlight how and why recent changes in Chinese policy have changed things.
i can't tell that you read those books.
that's fair. Just have to take my word for it, I guess!
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2015, 04:24:58 PM
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
You are a fast reader. I am only half through the "Cold Commands." This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered. like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way? i love backstory and revelations.
i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett. it seems pretty solid so far. your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.
Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
there's a really good and funny chapter where the author goes on a Chinese tour of Europe and they stay at Best Westerns at eat only Chinese food. It relates the funny anecdotes to Chinese history and their evolving views on the West. Is this the kind of hard hitting reviews you are looking for?
no, i just meant i can't tell in your personality as expressed on this bbs. it's not evident is some tangible or demonstrable way. i believe that you read them.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 19, 2015, 08:30:12 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2015, 08:41:33 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton. It was an interesting read. I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story. If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.I would be skeptical that half of it was true. (Note: I know nothing about how Patton died)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 19, 2015, 08:54:47 AM
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2015, 10:32:14 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton. It was an interesting read. I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story. If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.I would be skeptical that half of it was true. (Note: I know nothing about how Patton died)
I finished this a week or so ago. Wasn't a bad read but mainly just a re-hash of events most anyone who has paid much attention to WWII history would already know.
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2015, 10:33:17 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 19, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton. It was an interesting read. I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story. If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.I would be skeptical that half of it was true. (Note: I know nothing about how Patton died)
I wouldn't have read it otherwise, but I was out of books and it was in the rainy day drawer.
The alleged assasination plot was new to me. I'd known the general facts about his death and of course the general plot of WWII. It is puzzling how it was handled and the peculiarities of certain events (if they are true).
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
Well I read the first two books in the Discworld series that SD suggested. They were good, but they didn't have that "I really want to ignore all other things to read this" feeling.....So should I read more of them or switch to something else?
Nice of SD to leave right when I am in the middle of this crisis.
Well I went ahead and started the third book, Sorcery...mostly because I couldn't think of anything else I wanted to read right away. It is ok, but pretty much the same as the others so far.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 26, 2015, 03:52:58 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
You are a fast reader. I am only half through the "Cold Commands." This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered. like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way? i love backstory and revelations.
i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett. it seems pretty solid so far. your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.
Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.
i finished the first four books of the demon cycle series. they're pretty good. #recommendedtopete
Post by: Pete on May 27, 2015, 05:33:04 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
You are a fast reader. I am only half through the "Cold Commands." This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered. like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way? i love backstory and revelations.
i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett. it seems pretty solid so far. your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.
Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.
i finished the first four books of the demon cycle series. they're pretty good. #recommendedtopete
Almost done with the Cold Commands, after the third one, those will be my next stop. You are maybe the fastest reader ever.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 28, 2015, 10:09:39 AM
Post by: Pete on June 01, 2015, 08:09:10 PM
I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next. A trilogy. Will report back.
Finished The Cold Commands, now on to the third book. Should I read that Demon series next or the Magicians?
Regarding the Morgan series, I am giving them the Pete fantasy novel stamp approval thus far...hopefully it ends well in book three.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 01, 2015, 08:23:04 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 02, 2015, 12:22:18 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 02, 2015, 12:46:26 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?
yes. about one in every three books i read is fiction <--- word book people call "fantasy"
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 01:16:24 PM
I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next. A trilogy. Will report back.Don't. Finished the trilogy a while back. The first book is intriguing. Sucks super hard from then on.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 02, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?
You should read rick perlstein's book on reagan.
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?
You should read rick perlstein's book on reagan.
it's on my list. I loved Nixonland.
Post by: Cire on June 02, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
meh
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
Post by: Pete on June 03, 2015, 07:31:08 AM
Cool stuff. We are from the "Midland" and "Yankee" nations. Rusty lives in the "Left Coast" nation now. Some of you Texas guys are in the Nation of "El Norte."
Bread might be a Borderlander, or might be a midlander.
Sys lives in Tide Water.
Post by: steve dave on June 03, 2015, 07:47:45 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2015, 07:48:51 AM
Post by: Pete on June 03, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
Any official western kansas boundaries?
Kansas is part "Far West" in the western part , and "Midlands" in the middle and east, and the south has some "El Norte."
The characteristics of Far West are interesting. Elements of the "Border Lands" nation (think "Appalachian"), with some Midlands mixed in. The Far West nation includes west KS, West NE, much of north and east Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, east Washington, East Oregon, non Mormon Utah, and Nevada.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 08, 2015, 02:06:08 PM
I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next. A trilogy. Will report back.Don't. Finished the trilogy a while back. The first book is intriguing. Sucks super hard from then on.
The first book was easily the worst of the three. None were great.
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2015, 02:56:36 PM
I listened to a really interesting non-fiction book on audio last week, Colin Woodward's "American Nations." It's about the cultural "nations" of America, how they formed, how they developed, and how they behave now.
Cool stuff. We are from the "Midland" and "Yankee" nations. Rusty lives in the "Left Coast" nation now. Some of you Texas guys are in the Nation of "El Norte."
Bread might be a Borderlander, or might be a midlander.
Sys lives in Tide Water.
sys lives in far west. or did I miss something?
that book got a little silly toward the end.
Post by: Pete on June 08, 2015, 08:01:50 PM
I listened to a really interesting non-fiction book on audio last week, Colin Woodward's "American Nations." It's about the cultural "nations" of America, how they formed, how they developed, and how they behave now.
Cool stuff. We are from the "Midland" and "Yankee" nations. Rusty lives in the "Left Coast" nation now. Some of you Texas guys are in the Nation of "El Norte."
Bread might be a Borderlander, or might be a midlander.
Sys lives in Tide Water.
sys lives in far west. or did I miss something?
that book got a little silly toward the end.
Whoops, I typed Sys but meant Dax. Man, I will never hear the end of that from those two! Ya, I totally agree about the end, I got fed up and turned it off toward the very end.
Which one do you consider yourself? I think I am a solid mix of Midland and Yankee.
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
Probably what he describes Midlanders as but no longer is.I listened to a really interesting non-fiction book on audio last week, Colin Woodward's "American Nations." It's about the cultural "nations" of America, how they formed, how they developed, and how they behave now.
Cool stuff. We are from the "Midland" and "Yankee" nations. Rusty lives in the "Left Coast" nation now. Some of you Texas guys are in the Nation of "El Norte."
Bread might be a Borderlander, or might be a midlander.
Sys lives in Tide Water.
sys lives in far west. or did I miss something?
that book got a little silly toward the end.
Whoops, I typed Sys but meant Dax. Man, I will never hear the end of that from those two! Ya, I totally agree about the end, I got fed up and turned it off toward the very end.
Which one do you consider yourself? I think I am a solid mix of Midland and Yankee.
Also, I finally finished the Wool series. He seemed to be in a hurry to wrap things up.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2015, 08:20:26 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2015, 08:32:51 PM
I got stuck 1/4 though the last book and just wiki'ed the rest and read the last chapter instead. Didn't really like the endThe last book went really fast for me like they all did. It also didn't seem to have as much awful prose as the others.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2015, 09:33:32 PM
Saw this on reddit today.
I'd rather it was a hbo series, but oh well
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2015, 09:40:58 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 09, 2015, 08:09:52 AM
Post by: slobber on June 09, 2015, 11:40:28 AM
About the buildup and the Battle of Little Bighorn. It would be easier to read if the Native Americans had actual American names and not those goofy ones. Very interesting book. Learning a great deal more than I did in elementary school about Custer, the 7th Calvary, and the Native Indians who came together in the Valley of the Greasy Grass.
Side note, at the Native American memorial at Little Bighorn, they had a list of names of the Native Americans who died at Little Bighorn. My two favorites: Tanned Nuts and Snatch Stealer.
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2015, 01:23:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 09, 2015, 01:32:21 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
books about America's wars against Indians really eff with the notion of American exceptionalism
Maybe we just didn't become exceptional until after we slaughtered all of the natives.
Post by: slobber on June 09, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on June 09, 2015, 01:35:45 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2015, 01:38:41 PM
books about America's wars against Indians really eff with the notion of American exceptionalism
Maybe we just didn't become exceptional until after we slaughtered all of the natives.
yes, but for that we had it.
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2015, 02:04:34 PM
Post by: Dub on June 09, 2015, 02:12:13 PM
I'm about 1/3 the way through 1Q84 and I'm still not quite sure wtf is going on but it has my balls.I am at the same place, but I know what is going on and it is only cupping my balls right now.
Did you finish it yet? Is it worth continuing on?
Post by: Fedor on June 10, 2015, 09:01:34 AM
Yes, I finished it. Kinda meh, the ending does not piss you off as I though it had great potential to do. But it also does not wow you.I'm about 1/3 the way through 1Q84 and I'm still not quite sure wtf is going on but it has my balls.I am at the same place, but I know what is going on and it is only cupping my balls right now.
Did you finish it yet? Is it worth continuing on?
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2015, 10:31:02 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on June 10, 2015, 11:27:20 AM
The Rick Perlstein Reagan book is great as expected. Glad he picked up on the end of Nixon that he kind of glossed over at the end of Nixonland
The first half of the book is 60-40 Nixon to Reagan stuff. The RR childhood stuff is fascinating, but the Nixon trial. My God. It just makes the Clinton fiasco look so trivial by comparison.
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2015, 11:31:35 AM
On the RR childhood, you can tell Perlstein doesn't like Reagan, and I appreciate that he doesn't try to hide it. I tried to find the comic of RR as a lifeguard in his HS yearbook but couldn't find it.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 10, 2015, 02:14:18 PM
Nixon was amazing.
On the RR childhood, you can tell Perlstein doesn't like Reagan, and I appreciate that he doesn't try to hide it. I tried to find the comic of RR as a lifeguard in his HS yearbook but couldn't find it.
He is very transparent that he thinks Reagan is one of history's greatest phonies. I think compared to Nixonland, his tone is actually harsher, which has thus far struck me as odd and unproductive.
Post by: ben ji on June 16, 2015, 09:11:06 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 18, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
Anyone read any of the wayward pines books? If so please let me know if they are any good. TIA.
they weren't bad. Better than the show (obviously)
Post by: CNS on June 18, 2015, 04:23:57 PM
only about 1/4 of the way in and it is interesting. Fantasy about ppl that can perform magic. The premise is that magic can only be done in the presence of blood. The stronger the magic, the more blood needed. I am not far enough to see if Sommers delivers with the book, but the idea is an interesting twist, imo.
Post by: Pete on June 18, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
Just started reading We Are Not Good People.
only about 1/4 of the way in and it is interesting. Fantasy about ppl that can perform magic. The premise is that magic can only be done in the presence of blood. The stronger the magic, the more blood needed. I am not far enough to see if Sommers delivers with the book, but the idea is an interesting twist, imo.
Sounds cool. Keep us posted. Trying to decide on my next book, but I will most likely stick with the list bread provided me. I trust bread. You seem like you like the stuff I like too, tho.
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 07:50:42 AM
weird thing about this book: I've never read a book where I've caught so many wacky-esque typos. example: using "roll" where "role" should be used. It's kind of distracting.The Rick Perlstein Reagan book is great as expected. Glad he picked up on the end of Nixon that he kind of glossed over at the end of Nixonland
The first half of the book is 60-40 Nixon to Reagan stuff. The RR childhood stuff is fascinating, but the Nixon trial. My God. It just makes the Clinton fiasco look so trivial by comparison.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 24, 2015, 09:04:49 PM
weird thing about this book: I've never read a book where I've caught so many wacky-esque typos. example: using "roll" where "role" should be used. It's kind of distracting.The Rick Perlstein Reagan book is great as expected. Glad he picked up on the end of Nixon that he kind of glossed over at the end of Nixonland
The first half of the book is 60-40 Nixon to Reagan stuff. The RR childhood stuff is fascinating, but the Nixon trial. My God. It just makes the Clinton fiasco look so trivial by comparison.
In other rick Perlstein news his Twitter account was taken over by a teenager a couple weeks ago and it still has be blue check mark. Super weird.
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2015, 09:29:07 PM
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Post by: michigancat on June 29, 2015, 11:55:14 AM
weird thing about this book: I've never read a book where I've caught so many wacky-esque typos. example: using "roll" where "role" should be used. It's kind of distracting.The Rick Perlstein Reagan book is great as expected. Glad he picked up on the end of Nixon that he kind of glossed over at the end of Nixonland
The first half of the book is 60-40 Nixon to Reagan stuff. The RR childhood stuff is fascinating, but the Nixon trial. My God. It just makes the Clinton fiasco look so trivial by comparison.
In other rick Perlstein news his Twitter account was taken over by a teenager a couple weeks ago and it still has be blue check mark. Super weird.
his website is also down. Which is significant, because it's where he posts his citations.
http://www.rickperlstein.net/the-invisible-bridge/source-notes/
Post by: The_Wippuh on June 30, 2015, 04:06:58 PM
Wool, Sand and pretty much everything that Howley writes, that I've read, have been good. I'm not a big fan of sci-fi stuff, but he's clever. I hope the movies have a gritty Aliens type vibe to them.
Post by: Pete on July 01, 2015, 07:38:52 AM
I am STILL furious at this thread for recommending Dirty White Boys. So terrible.
Wool, Sand and pretty much everything that Howley writes, that I've read, have been good. I'm not a big fan of sci-fi stuff, but he's clever. I hope the movies have a gritty Aliens type vibe to them.
Hey man, blame Tony Korheiser.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 01, 2015, 10:50:43 AM
But I accidentally took my earphones home yesterday, so I can't listen to it yet. :frown:
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Post by: Frankenklein on July 05, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
you only have 1 set of earphones? i have like 3 in the house, one in the car, one in the office and a spare shitty set in my backpackYou don't have a set permanently draped around your neck :confused:
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 05, 2015, 09:31:46 PM
you only have 1 set of earphones? i have like 3 in the house, one in the car, one in the office and a spare shitty set in my backpack
Well I only have 1 set at work and I put them in my pocket and accidentally took them home.
Most :lol: part of "Grey" so far.... When Christian is fantasizing about putting a peeled ginger root up Ana's butt. :sdeek:
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Post by: Missouriscribe on July 23, 2015, 06:51:06 AM
Spoiler: he would have lived if the docs had merely avoided infections. But the importance of antiseptic cleanliness was still debatable in American medicine at the time.
Post by: CopperBowl on July 23, 2015, 07:12:38 AM
I snagged 100-years of Solitude off of the "free stuff" table at work. I am reading a piece of crap book right now but I read the first couple of pages of 100-yrs and am excited to dive into it.
It's really enjoyable sober, but probably even better when you :bigtoke:
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2015, 05:34:14 PM
Just started reading We Are Not Good People.
only about 1/4 of the way in and it is interesting. Fantasy about ppl that can perform magic. The premise is that magic can only be done in the presence of blood. The stronger the magic, the more blood needed. I am not far enough to see if Sommers delivers with the book, but the idea is an interesting twist, imo.
How was this?
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 05, 2015, 01:25:26 AM
I listened to the audio book of "The Martian" by Andy Weir. It was really good. I was quite impressed.
Coming out soon featuring Matt Damon and directed by ridley Scott
Post by: Pete on August 05, 2015, 07:19:09 PM
I listened to the audio book of "The Martian" by Andy Weir. It was really good. I was quite impressed.
Coming out soon featuring Matt Damon and directed by ridley Scott
He will be perfect in that role. Great casting. Guy has to be very witty/funny, and half way a badass, but not full badass.
Book was very fun to listen to while driving. Book might have been a bit tougher at times, because of the detailed descriptions of space and science stuff. Still, a very cool book.
Post by: Pete on August 09, 2015, 11:53:42 AM
I listened to that one last week (Gone Girl). It's great too. Ready Player One narrated by Will Wheaton was very fun also.
I am about 80% through this (listened to it for 10 hours in the car yesterday), and it's very, very good! A fun concept. Very cool book.
Post by: Pete on August 09, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
I listened to that one last week (Gone Girl). It's great too. Ready Player One narrated by Will Wheaton was very fun also.
I am about 80% through this (listened to it for 10 hours in the car yesterday), and it's very, very good! A fun concept. Very cool book.
I cannot believe I have waited this long to experience this book. Just finished it. That was a ton of fun.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 10, 2015, 08:43:06 AM
I listened to the audio book of "The Martian" by Andy Weir. It was really good. I was quite impressed.
about 2/3rds through this book. cant put it down.
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2015, 02:03:57 AM
I listened to the audio book of "The Martian" by Andy Weir. It was really good. I was quite impressed.
about 2/3rds through this book. cant put it down.
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"
Post by: 8manpick on August 12, 2015, 10:04:24 PM
I'm 1/3 of the way through (Aech cleared gate) based on (hopefully not misread) recommendos ITT, and I'm starting to wonder if it is ever going to get past surface level nerd culture and 80's references?I listened to the audio book of "The Martian" by Andy Weir. It was really good. I was quite impressed.
about 2/3rds through this book. cant put it down.
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 12, 2015, 10:21:19 PM
I snagged 100-years of Solitude off of the "free stuff" table at work. I am reading a piece of crap book right now but I read the first couple of pages of 100-yrs and am excited to dive into it.
It's really enjoyable sober, but probably even better when you :bigtoke:
100-yrs is my fav. non-dostoyevsky fiction. an absolutely beautiful book.
Post by: Pete on August 12, 2015, 11:37:24 PM
I'm 1/3 of the way through (Aech cleared gate) based on (hopefully not misread) recommendos ITT, and I'm starting to wonder if it is ever going to get past surface level nerd culture and 80's references?I listened to the audio book of "The Martian" by Andy Weir. It was really good. I was quite impressed.
about 2/3rds through this book. cant put it down.
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"
Well, if you don't like the nerd stuff and 80's stuff you are reading the wrong book.
Post by: 8manpick on August 13, 2015, 08:31:11 AM
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"I'm 1/3 of the way through (Aech cleared gate) based on (hopefully not misread) recommendos ITT, and I'm starting to wonder if it is ever going to get past surface level nerd culture and 80's references?
Well, if you don't like the nerd stuff and 80's stuff you are reading the wrong book.
It's not that I don't like nerd stuff and 80's stuff...
I just feel like the first 50-100 pages were the author trying to cram as many references in them as possible. And not really references, but lists of things that people familiar with sci-fi or gaming or the 80's would recognize. It just feels cheap to set a novel in the future and try and draw people in by using a shotgun blast of references so you can touch a nostalgic nerve for every male between the ages of 14 and 55.
Also, l33t speak? In the 2030's, really? I mean the author invented something called the "L33t Hax0rz Warezhous" that is basically the Silk Road. "Sux0rz"? Is this a CS chatroom in 2001?
Don't get me wrong, it's picked up a bit and is a fairly fun novel. I'll finish it, I would just much rather be reading one of Halliday's favorite author's:
Quote from: Actual quote from the book
Douglas Adams. Kurt Vonnegut. Neal Stephenson. Richard K. Morgan. Stephen King. Orson Scott Card. Terry Pratchett. Terry Brooks. Bester, Bradbury, Haldeman, Heinlein, Tolkein, Vance, Gibson, Gainman, Sterling, Moorcock, Scalzi, Zelezny
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2015, 10:10:29 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 13, 2015, 11:16:46 AM
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"I'm 1/3 of the way through (Aech cleared gate) based on (hopefully not misread) recommendos ITT, and I'm starting to wonder if it is ever going to get past surface level nerd culture and 80's references?
Well, if you don't like the nerd stuff and 80's stuff you are reading the wrong book.
It's not that I don't like nerd stuff and 80's stuff...
I just feel like the first 50-100 pages were the author trying to cram as many references in them as possible. And not really references, but lists of things that people familiar with sci-fi or gaming or the 80's would recognize. It just feels cheap to set a novel in the future and try and draw people in by using a shotgun blast of references so you can touch a nostalgic nerve for every male between the ages of 14 and 55.
Also, l33t speak? In the 2030's, really? I mean the author invented something called the "L33t Hax0rz Warezhous" that is basically the Silk Road. "Sux0rz"? Is this a CS chatroom in 2001?
Don't get me wrong, it's picked up a bit and is a fairly fun novel. I'll finish it, I would just much rather be reading one of Halliday's favorite author's:Quote from: Actual quote from the bookDouglas Adams. Kurt Vonnegut. Neal Stephenson. Richard K. Morgan. Stephen King. Orson Scott Card. Terry Pratchett. Terry Brooks. Bester, Bradbury, Haldeman, Heinlein, Tolkein, Vance, Gibson, Gainman, Sterling, Moorcock, Scalzi, Zelezny
I listened to the audiobook version narrated by Will Wheaton. I enjoyed it. I have a feeling I wouldn't have enjoyed actually reading the book for the reasons you've stated.
Post by: Pete on August 13, 2015, 11:45:11 AM
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"I'm 1/3 of the way through (Aech cleared gate) based on (hopefully not misread) recommendos ITT, and I'm starting to wonder if it is ever going to get past surface level nerd culture and 80's references?
Well, if you don't like the nerd stuff and 80's stuff you are reading the wrong book.
It's not that I don't like nerd stuff and 80's stuff...
I just feel like the first 50-100 pages were the author trying to cram as many references in them as possible. And not really references, but lists of things that people familiar with sci-fi or gaming or the 80's would recognize. It just feels cheap to set a novel in the future and try and draw people in by using a shotgun blast of references so you can touch a nostalgic nerve for every male between the ages of 14 and 55.
Also, l33t speak? In the 2030's, really? I mean the author invented something called the "L33t Hax0rz Warezhous" that is basically the Silk Road. "Sux0rz"? Is this a CS chatroom in 2001?
Don't get me wrong, it's picked up a bit and is a fairly fun novel. I'll finish it, I would just much rather be reading one of Halliday's favorite author's:Quote from: Actual quote from the bookDouglas Adams. Kurt Vonnegut. Neal Stephenson. Richard K. Morgan. Stephen King. Orson Scott Card. Terry Pratchett. Terry Brooks. Bester, Bradbury, Haldeman, Heinlein, Tolkein, Vance, Gibson, Gainman, Sterling, Moorcock, Scalzi, Zelezny
I listened to the audiobook version narrated by Will Wheaton. I enjoyed it. I have a feeling I wouldn't have enjoyed actually reading the book for the reasons you've stated.
Same here, the Will Wheaton narration was amazingly good. However, the 80's nostalgia is not merely trivia...it's a character in the book.
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 13, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
I'm glad you like it! Have you read "Ready Player One?"I'm 1/3 of the way through (Aech cleared gate) based on (hopefully not misread) recommendos ITT, and I'm starting to wonder if it is ever going to get past surface level nerd culture and 80's references?
Well, if you don't like the nerd stuff and 80's stuff you are reading the wrong book.
It's not that I don't like nerd stuff and 80's stuff...
I just feel like the first 50-100 pages were the author trying to cram as many references in them as possible. And not really references, but lists of things that people familiar with sci-fi or gaming or the 80's would recognize. It just feels cheap to set a novel in the future and try and draw people in by using a shotgun blast of references so you can touch a nostalgic nerve for every male between the ages of 14 and 55.
Also, l33t speak? In the 2030's, really? I mean the author invented something called the "L33t Hax0rz Warezhous" that is basically the Silk Road. "Sux0rz"? Is this a CS chatroom in 2001?
Don't get me wrong, it's picked up a bit and is a fairly fun novel. I'll finish it, I would just much rather be reading one of Halliday's favorite author's:Quote from: Actual quote from the bookDouglas Adams. Kurt Vonnegut. Neal Stephenson. Richard K. Morgan. Stephen King. Orson Scott Card. Terry Pratchett. Terry Brooks. Bester, Bradbury, Haldeman, Heinlein, Tolkein, Vance, Gibson, Gainman, Sterling, Moorcock, Scalzi, Zelezny
I listened to the audiobook version narrated by Will Wheaton. I enjoyed it. I have a feeling I wouldn't have enjoyed actually reading the book for the reasons you've stated.
Same here, the Will Wheaton narration was amazingly good. However, the 80's nostalgia is not merely trivia...it's a character in the book.
The book doesn't work without it. I just think that I would have found it unbearable to drudge through in text.
Post by: puniraptor on August 13, 2015, 02:37:35 PM
Post by: Pete on August 13, 2015, 09:50:35 PM
did the martian audiobook on my recent travels. very good. super science joyride.
I totally agree.
Post by: Pete on August 21, 2015, 08:24:47 PM
I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next. A trilogy. Will report back.
How was this? Still think it's better than the demon cycle series?
Post by: CNS on August 21, 2015, 09:07:01 PM
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Post by: Pete on August 22, 2015, 02:59:23 PM
It was not good. Also, syfi Chan is making it a tv series.
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God damn it, bread is usually good on this stuff. I need to know what to read next. Finished that last series with the gay guy, and it was good. I have the third book in the Abercrombie YA series that I will read, then I am wide open. I want something great!
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2015, 03:39:44 PM
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Post by: Pete on August 23, 2015, 07:14:01 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on August 23, 2015, 07:18:26 AM
Or the Hyperion books by Dan Simmons?Thanks. Started "Terror" last night.
Post by: Pete on August 23, 2015, 07:38:39 AM
Or the Hyperion books by Dan Simmons?Thanks. Started "Terror" last night.
These look interesting. Have you read the earlier ones as well?
Post by: IPA4Me on August 23, 2015, 08:10:20 AM
Nope. Figured sd would make good recommendation. So, I went for this one. It was available for immediate checkout online from the library.Or the Hyperion books by Dan Simmons?Thanks. Started "Terror" last night.
These look interesting. Have you read the earlier ones as well?
I have Overdrive app. It connects to my public library.
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2015, 08:16:20 AM
I haven't read any of those. Tell me more!
John Dies at the End is kind of an over the top horror/comedy. Easy read and had a couple parts that made me LOL.
Hyperion stuff is kind of a blend of fantasy/sci fi. The first one (I think just called Hyperion) is like Canterbury Tales where all the people on some quest like tell some story and they all kind of circle back on each other later on in the books.
Winds Of War (and the second book War and Remembrance) is historical fiction set in WWII. A lot of good history and a great story. Probably my favorite books.
Post by: IPA4Me on August 23, 2015, 08:22:42 AM
I put a hold on Winds of War last night. Looking forward to that one.I haven't read any of those. Tell me more!
John Dies at the End is kind of an over the top horror/comedy. Easy read and had a couple parts that made me LOL.
Hyperion stuff is kind of a blend of fantasy/sci fi. The first one (I think just called Hyperion) is like Canterbury Tales where all the people on some quest like tell some story and they all kind of circle back on each other later on in the books.
Winds Of War (and the second book War and Remembrance) is historical fiction set in WWII. A lot of good history and a great story. Probably my favorite books.
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2015, 09:40:59 AM
Reading this now. About 10% in and really like it so far.I'm super pumped for Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell on BBC. That had a great story AND fantastic dialogue.Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.yup, just like ASOIAF imho
And also would make a great hbo show!
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Post by: 8manpick on August 23, 2015, 10:55:43 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Post by: Pete on August 23, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
I'm about finished with Kafka on the Shore. Very enjoyable, probably more than 1Q84.
What's funny is, you probably say to yourself "How does Pete read that crap?" And, I say to myself "How does Rusty read that crap?"
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 24, 2015, 10:19:20 AM
next up is "Devil in the White City"
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 10:25:20 AM
finished "The Martian" and loved it.
next up is "Devil in the White City"
I really liked DitWC. It wasn't what I thought it would be, the serial murderer takes a little bit more of a backseat than I thought he would, but it was a very interesting book, imo.
Post by: Brock Landers on August 24, 2015, 10:47:59 AM
Robopocalypse. I, for one, did not welcome this book about our robot overlords. This was also going to be made into a movie but that has been shelved, probably right after someone actually bothered to read the book.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 24, 2015, 12:09:58 PM
finished "The Martian" and loved it.
next up is "Devil in the White City"
I really liked DitWC. It wasn't what I thought it would be, the serial murderer takes a little bit more of a backseat than I thought he would, but it was a very interesting book, imo.
Is that the one that takes place during the World's Fair?
I read it and the Alienist around the same time, but I didn't finish one of them. Can't remember which.
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 12:16:00 PM
finished "The Martian" and loved it.
next up is "Devil in the White City"
I really liked DitWC. It wasn't what I thought it would be, the serial murderer takes a little bit more of a backseat than I thought he would, but it was a very interesting book, imo.
Is that the one that takes place during the World's Fair?
I read it and the Alienist around the same time, but I didn't finish one of them. Can't remember which.
Yeah, it seemed much more like architect/contractor porn than a serial killer book.
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 24, 2015, 12:20:12 PM
finished "The Martian" and loved it.
next up is "Devil in the White City"
going to download the Martian. looking forward to it.
Devil in the White City - excellent. enjoy. I think it would make an excellent movie / TV mini-series.
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
finished "The Martian" and loved it.
next up is "Devil in the White City"
Devil in the White City - excellent. enjoy. I think it would make an excellent movie / TV mini-series.
They could def do a Netflix typ serial show on it. It could work out better than Hell on Wheels. Both deal with monumental tasks, but Devil has Chicago and a serial killer as a backdrop to add content. It could be really good if done right.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 24, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
I was going to say they'd be limited by the real events, but hell, Hollywood usually ignores facts anyway.finished "The Martian" and loved it.
next up is "Devil in the White City"
Devil in the White City - excellent. enjoy. I think it would make an excellent movie / TV mini-series.
They could def do a Netflix typ serial show on it. It could work out better than Hell on Wheels. Both deal with monumental tasks, but Devil has Chicago and a serial killer as a backdrop to add content. It could be really good if done right.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 24, 2015, 01:21:42 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 24, 2015, 01:40:34 PM
I was going to say they'd be limited by the real events, but hell, Hollywood usually ignores facts anyway.
Limited to real events, they'd certainly have enough material for several seasons.
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 24, 2015, 01:45:17 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leonardo-dicaprio-teams-martin-scorsese-814374
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 01:46:51 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 24, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
Ugh. Netflix serials are so much better than movies.
yeah, but Scorsese+DiCaprio tho.
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
Post by: Pete on August 25, 2015, 08:34:10 AM
And @Pete, "The Martian" is high on my list of next fiction to read. Think I'll dive into "Champlain's Dream" next, though. That American Nations book we both read inspired it!
I enjoyed the audio book of the Martian, but I bet the book would be great too. It was a great listen on a long drive...edge of the seat type stuff.
Post by: IPA4Me on August 25, 2015, 04:03:51 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Hoovers-FBI-Inside-Trusted-Lieutenant/dp/1455130575
The book was written in 1995. DeLoach died in 2013.
https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/march/deke-deloach-adviser-to-j.-edgar-hoover-dies-at-92/deke-deloach-adviser-to-j.-edgar-hoover-dies-at-92
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Finished the audio version of Hoover's FBI by Deke DeLoach. Really enjoyed this one. Not so much about the Hoover story but more for the historical discussion by DeLoach. I learned quite a bit regarding US history in the 60s.
http://www.amazon.com/Hoovers-FBI-Inside-Trusted-Lieutenant/dp/1455130575
The book was written in 1995. DeLoach died in 2013.
https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/march/deke-deloach-adviser-to-j.-edgar-hoover-dies-at-92/deke-deloach-adviser-to-j.-edgar-hoover-dies-at-92
people who think crap in the US is mumped up now don't know crap about the 1960's.
Post by: IPA4Me on August 25, 2015, 06:23:56 PM
Or the Hyperion books by Dan Simmons?Thanks. Started "Terror" last night.
Six chapters... Not sure about this one. Going to give it a few more.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 09:28:43 AM
Very enjoyable. It's got to be dax's favorite book right?
Post by: michigancat on October 05, 2015, 04:14:55 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 06, 2015, 08:59:11 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 06, 2015, 10:29:53 AM
Knocked out Slapstick by Vonnegut on my trip to Minnesota over the weekend. I enjoyed it greatly.
Post by: michigancat on October 06, 2015, 10:42:21 AM
Post by: Pete on October 06, 2015, 10:58:50 AM
Finished the audiobook version of Armada by Ernest Cline last week. Wil Wheaton narrated it again. I enjoyed it more than RP1. I would highly recommend it.
Knocked out Slapstick by Vonnegut on my trip to Minnesota over the weekend. I enjoyed it greatly.
I loved the audio book for RP1. How much does the Wil Wheaton read add to Armada? Would you say that it would be a less enjoyable experience to read Armada vs listening to it?
Post by: Fedor on October 06, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
I'd like a good history book, guys. Any recommendations?The Great Bridge by McCullough.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 11, 2015, 02:47:36 PM
What should I get?????
Here are some things that I have rated 5 stars on my Goodreads list (for reference of what I like):
Edge of Eternity by Ken Follett
The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancey
Divergent by Veronica Roth
Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn
Towers of Midnight (Wheel of Time #13) by Robert Jordan
Shiver by Maggie Stiefvater
Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin
Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card
That's just a sample. I have rated 29 out of 216 as five stars. I wonder if I should be more discerning with my ratings.
Post by: CNS on November 11, 2015, 02:55:17 PM
Get the Game of Thrones stuff.
Also, did you hear that some book guy in Spain let slip that the next GoT book should be out in spring? I guess the guy is someone who works often with Martin and would know.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 11, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
Post by: CNS on November 11, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 11, 2015, 03:15:27 PM
I'm getting ready to go on vacation in a week, and I need to get a book to take with me.Dawn by Octavia Butler
What should I get?????
Here are some things that I have rated 5 stars on my Goodreads list (for reference of what I like):
Edge of Eternity by Ken Follett
The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancey
Divergent by Veronica Roth
Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn
Towers of Midnight (Wheel of Time #13) by Robert Jordan
Shiver by Maggie Stiefvater
Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin
Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card
That's just a sample. I have rated 29 out of 216 as five stars. I wonder if I should be more discerning with my ratings.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 11, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
Post by: CNS on November 11, 2015, 03:18:43 PM
Surely there is a new teen series out there for you
I have heard the Golden Compass is a good one. First of His Dark Materials trilogy.
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2015, 03:19:36 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
I'm getting ready to go on vacation in a week, and I need to get a book to take with me.
What should I get?????
Here are some things that I have rated 5 stars on my Goodreads list (for reference of what I like):
Edge of Eternity by Ken Follett
The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancey
Divergent by Veronica Roth
Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn
Towers of Midnight (Wheel of Time #13) by Robert Jordan
Shiver by Maggie Stiefvater
Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin
Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card
That's just a sample. I have rated 29 out of 216 as five stars. I wonder if I should be more discerning with my ratings.
I would seriously recommend Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 11, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
Surely there is a new teen series out there for you
You are probably right, but I don't know what it is.
Post by: CNS on November 11, 2015, 03:43:24 PM
I'm getting ready to go on vacation in a week, and I need to get a book to take with me.
What should I get?????
Here are some things that I have rated 5 stars on my Goodreads list (for reference of what I like):
Edge of Eternity by Ken Follett
The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancey
Divergent by Veronica Roth
Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn
Towers of Midnight (Wheel of Time #13) by Robert Jordan
Shiver by Maggie Stiefvater
Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin
Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card
That's just a sample. I have rated 29 out of 216 as five stars. I wonder if I should be more discerning with my ratings.
I would seriously recommend Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell
Seconded. It is very good.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 12, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
I'm getting ready to go on vacation in a week, and I need to get a book to take with me.
What should I get?????
Here are some things that I have rated 5 stars on my Goodreads list (for reference of what I like):
Edge of Eternity by Ken Follett
The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancey
Divergent by Veronica Roth
Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn
Towers of Midnight (Wheel of Time #13) by Robert Jordan
Shiver by Maggie Stiefvater
Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin
Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card
That's just a sample. I have rated 29 out of 216 as five stars. I wonder if I should be more discerning with my ratings.
I would seriously recommend Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell
OK, I am getting this one from the library. I might get something else too if I find another good suggestion.
Post by: CHONGS on November 12, 2015, 11:54:06 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2015, 11:59:14 AM
:frown:
chings! recommend me some fiction!
Post by: CHONGS on November 12, 2015, 12:04:20 PM
Any factors to consider?:frown:
chings! recommend me some fiction!
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2015, 12:05:55 PM
Any factors to consider?:frown:
chings! recommend me some fiction!
no!
Post by: CHONGS on November 12, 2015, 12:15:26 PM
The Gospel According to Jesus Christ - Saramago
The Magus - Fowles
Cloudsplitter: A Novel - Banks (but I think I recommended this before)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 12, 2015, 12:20:01 PM
:frown:
The one you suggested isn't available at the library. It looks good though, so I might check it out later when it becomes available.
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
Put Out More Flags - Waugh
The Gospel According to Jesus Christ - Saramago
The Magus - Fowles
Cloudsplitter: A Novel - Banks (but I think I recommended this before)
Ah, I loved Scoop from Waugh. I'll look into the others, too. thanks, chings.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 16, 2015, 05:52:00 PM
I got Lilith's Brood which is a compilation of 3 books in the series starting with Dawn by Octavia Butler.
Also got Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell but I don't even know if that one will fit in my luggage. The librarian confirmed it was a great choice though.
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2015, 08:14:14 AM
Post by: CHONGS on November 17, 2015, 09:01:25 AM
I'm reading cloudsplitterI might re-read that. I have been meaning to.
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2015, 09:02:23 AM
Seems like that would be a lot of work. But it seems pretty good through one chapter.I'm reading cloudsplitterI might re-read that. I have been meaning to.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 17, 2015, 09:24:54 AM
I stopped by the library today.
I got Lilith's Brood which is a compilation of 3 books in the series starting with Dawn by Octavia Butler.
Also got Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell but I don't even know if that one will fit in my luggage. The librarian confirmed it was a great choice though.
OK, I also got Jonathan Strange on my eReader so I don't have to pack that 40lb book. I have a lot to read. I don't think I'll get it all read on vacation, especially since I'll be watching Star Wars on the planes.
Post by: mocat on November 20, 2015, 08:21:57 AM
Post by: Cire on November 20, 2015, 09:34:09 AM
Would suggest for those wanting some history.
Bill the Kid great
Sitting Bull Great
Geronimo is next.
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2015, 10:13:54 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2015, 10:25:28 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2015, 10:26:37 AM
There's no tension, very meh, SD
no tension. no character building. no surprises. I ended up skimming the last quarter because I didn't care what happened.
Post by: Pete on November 20, 2015, 09:16:08 PM
There's no tension, very meh, SD
no tension. no character building. no surprises. I ended up skimming the last quarter because I didn't care what happened.
You guys are nuts
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2015, 09:31:24 PM
Post by: Pete on November 21, 2015, 11:21:29 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 27, 2015, 11:25:16 AM
Dawn by Octavia Butler
Chingon is really good at recommending books. I read the whole series and it was great.
Post by: Pete on November 27, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
Read the demon cycle books first I'd say.
Just finished the first one. Made me think of Bread. I wish he would come back.
Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
Post by: Pete on November 28, 2015, 05:15:42 PM
Finished the audiobook version of Armada by Ernest Cline last week. Wil Wheaton narrated it again. I enjoyed it more than RP1. I would highly recommend it.
Just finished this as well. Wil Wheton was great again, but I liked RP1 quite a bit more than Armada. Good road trip listen, though.
Post by: Canary on December 17, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2015, 03:26:45 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 17, 2015, 03:35:42 PM
When I got to Chapter 13, there was a playing card in the book (queen of clubs), which I am now using as a bookmark.
Post by: CNS on December 17, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
One of my staff just stopped in and asked if I had heard of "The Revenant" by Michael Pucke? She wasn't sure if it is well-written, as she herself has not read it. But she thought the subject and back story is fascinating, and she piqued my interest. I will be looking for it. I know references have been made to it somewhere on this board, but didn't pay any attention previous to it. If anyone has read it, what say you?
This movie looks really good. I may read it first.
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 17, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
Post by: Canary on December 17, 2015, 04:02:45 PM
I plan to read it first. But the movie is a definite yes as soon as I can.One of my staff just stopped in and asked if I had heard of "The Revenant" by Michael Pucke? She wasn't sure if it is well-written, as she herself has not read it. But she thought the subject and back story is fascinating, and she piqued my interest. I will be looking for it. I know references have been made to it somewhere on this board, but didn't pay any attention previous to it. If anyone has read it, what say you?
This movie looks really good. I may read it first.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 18, 2015, 08:54:36 AM
I bought the girl on the train last night. Did I eff up? I haven't read contemporary fiction in like 20 years, but it looks interesting
I've heard it compared to Gone Girl. Some love it, some hate it. Most say it's bland chicklit.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2015, 08:57:29 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 18, 2015, 08:59:05 AM
Crap
get a library card, then you don't care if you stop after 7 pages.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2015, 09:04:53 AM
Post by: Canary on December 18, 2015, 12:20:11 PM
The Shawnee County Library is the saddest place on earth, no way I'm going thereJust curious, what makes it so?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2015, 12:22:29 PM
The Shawnee County Library is the saddest place on earth, no way I'm going thereJust curious, what makes it so?
The patrons
Post by: Canary on December 18, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
Gotcha. I go there, but don't pay much attention to who else is there. Unless you are talking about me!The Shawnee County Library is the saddest place on earth, no way I'm going thereJust curious, what makes it so?
The patrons
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 18, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
The Shawnee County Library is the saddest place on earth, no way I'm going there
no need to. Use the website to reserve books, they will mail them to you for $2
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 18, 2015, 12:57:14 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2015, 03:21:48 PM
I bought the girl on the train last night. Did I eff up? I haven't read contemporary fiction in like 20 years, but it looks interesting
it is okay. i enjoyed gone girl more but its basically a girl book.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
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Post by: Missouriscribe on December 18, 2015, 06:31:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
Why? They're on the kindle app. Only bad thing is they're limited to 21 days so you have to enjoy reading to get through some books on time.I've never seen a book that I wanted to read that don't have at least people in line in front of me to check it out.
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 18, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 18, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2015, 10:26:46 PM
Post by: Pete on December 19, 2015, 09:15:39 PM
I like reading on my 7in tablet, so I bought a paperwhite while they are on sale. Hoping to like it
They are great!
Post by: 8manpick on December 19, 2015, 10:24:20 PM
I really hated reading on the kindle. Very little upside for me.
Kat kid really just wants intellectual people to see the book covers of him reading intellectual things and compliment him on them
Post by: michigancat on December 20, 2015, 09:33:35 AM
https://youtu.be/fDBzQkWeQ5gI really hated reading on the kindle. Very little upside for me.
Kat kid really just wants intellectual people to see the book covers of him reading intellectual things and compliment him on them
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2015, 09:40:06 AM
Kat kid really just wants intellectual people to see the book covers of him reading intellectual things and compliment him on themhttps://youtu.be/fDBzQkWeQ5g
pete found dlew in chicago simply by listening for a robot chirping "royal purple yearbook, by kansas state university"
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2015, 07:20:30 PM
Liked Ubik, did not love it. Have LOVED the Man in the High Castle show and may circle back and read the book if I like Jones enough.
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2015, 08:44:47 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
I wish Mr. Bread was here to talk fantasy books with.
do you like sci-fi?
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
I wish Mr. Bread was here to talk fantasy books with.
do you like sci-fi?
I do! I haven't read as much of it as Fantasy.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 30, 2015, 09:51:57 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 30, 2015, 10:07:13 PM
http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/lifestyle/all/04619/facts.inside_chefs_fridges_europe_top_chefs_open_their_home_refrigerators.htm
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2015, 11:40:10 PM
I enjoy reading and make a conscience effort to read more in 2015, read more books in a year than I probably ever have before. My favorite read of the year was Bill Bryson's America, One Summer: 1927.Don't strain yourself.
Post by: Missouriscribe on December 31, 2015, 01:14:06 AM
I enjoy reading and make a conscience effort to read more in 2015, read more books in a year than I probably ever have before. My favorite read of the year was Bill Bryson's America, One Summer: 1927.
That book is excellent. I was most impressed by Lindbergh and other pilots chronicled.
Post by: 8manpick on December 31, 2015, 08:07:35 AM
Just read Ubik by Phillip K. Dick and am starting 'The World Jones Made'FWIW, I liked A Scanner Darkly better than The Man in the High Castle, but they are both good books.
Liked Ubik, did not love it. Have LOVED the Man in the High Castle show and may circle back and read the book if I like Jones enough.
Post by: deputy dawg on December 31, 2015, 08:08:15 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 31, 2015, 08:59:08 AM
I enjoy reading and make a conscience effort to read more in 2015, read more books in a year than I probably ever have before. My favorite read of the year was Bill Bryson's America, One Summer: 1927.Don't strain yourself.
ok
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Post by: Missouriscribe on December 31, 2015, 10:14:08 AM
Has "River of Doubt" made it to this thread? Lenexa author, book is about Teddy Roosevelt being invited to float the Amazon river, but when he got there, they sent him down an uncharted river instead. Outcome was, to say the least, challenging. Very good read.
the author's from Leawood, but yes it's great.
Post by: deputy dawg on December 31, 2015, 10:20:48 AM
Has "River of Doubt" made it to this thread? Lenexa author, book is about Teddy Roosevelt being invited to float the Amazon river, but when he got there, they sent him down an uncharted river instead. Outcome was, to say the least, challenging. Very good read.
the author's from Leawood, but yes it's great.
Apparently now lives in KCMO
Post by: Kat Kid on December 31, 2015, 11:23:42 AM
Just read Ubik by Phillip K. Dick and am starting 'The World Jones Made'FWIW, I liked A Scanner Darkly better than The Man in the High Castle, but they are both good books.
Liked Ubik, did not love it. Have LOVED the Man in the High Castle show and may circle back and read the book if I like Jones enough.
I may get that one too, I am negatively influenced by the movie (that I didn't see) looking like garbage.
Post by: tdaver on December 31, 2015, 12:43:39 PM
Just finished Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. Wasn't fantastic or anything, but liked it enough that I will try some of his others.Just read Ubik by Phillip K. Dick and am starting 'The World Jones Made'FWIW, I liked A Scanner Darkly better than The Man in the High Castle, but they are both good books.
Liked Ubik, did not love it. Have LOVED the Man in the High Castle show and may circle back and read the book if I like Jones enough.
I may get that one too, I am negatively influenced by the movie (that I didn't see) looking like garbage.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 04, 2016, 08:53:11 AM
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2016, 11:24:32 AM
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2016, 04:52:47 PM
Read the demon cycle books first I'd say.
Just finished the first one. Made me think of Bread. I wish he would come back.
Almost done with the fourth Demon Cycle book, but the fifth (last) one isn't expected to be out for quite a while. eff. These were quite different than many fantasy books I have read. Very creative. I enjoyed them.
Any other fantasy fans read anything good lately? Failing that, anyone care to suggest their favorite fantasy series?
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2016, 05:35:45 PM
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2016, 06:07:37 PM
Have you read the Riyria series books? There are The Riyria Chronicles and The Riyria Revelations. I liked them quite a bit and the latest book just came out. Haven't read it yet. With the new book both have three books per series. Again, they are a fun read.
I will look into those!
Post by: The Big Train on January 31, 2016, 09:57:30 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 31, 2016, 05:15:29 PM
Now I checked out 3 books by Octavia Butler.
Post by: CNS on January 31, 2016, 05:32:12 PM
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Post by: Kat Kid on January 31, 2016, 05:53:04 PM
Post by: Pete on January 31, 2016, 06:04:13 PM
Have you read the Riyria series books? There are The Riyria Chronicles and The Riyria Revelations. I liked them quite a bit and the latest book just came out. Haven't read it yet. With the new book both have three books per series. Again, they are a fun read.
I checked those out, and they are still on my list, but I started the Black Prism by Brent Weeks, in the Lightbringer series.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 01, 2016, 08:00:30 AM
I just finished Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell today. It was great. I was really interested by the last 10%.
Now I checked out 3 books by Octavia Butler.
To clarify, Octavia Butler is the author of Dawn and the Lilith's Brood series (which Chignon suggested) that I read a couple months ago.
I might look for another of Susanna Clarke's (author of Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell) later.
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
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Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2016, 07:26:00 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on February 27, 2016, 10:25:02 AM
The Elegant Universe
The fabric of the cosmos
The hidden reality
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Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2016, 04:39:54 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 12, 2016, 04:43:48 PM
Any of you folks use the goodreads app?
I use the Goodreads website. Didn't realize there was an app.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2016, 05:25:08 PM
Any of you folks use the goodreads app?
I use the Goodreads website. Didn't realize there was an app.
I imagine that it is just a mobile version of the website. I haven't been using it for very long, but the few recommendations that I've picked up and read have been quite enjoyable.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 12, 2016, 05:27:33 PM
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Post by: michigancat on May 12, 2016, 06:19:25 PM
Post by: Pete on May 14, 2016, 06:12:54 PM
Starting the Lies of Locke Lamora, in the Gentleman Bastard series by Scott Lynch. The reviews of this series are great and a 4th book is out later this year, but the author suffers from depressions takes long periods of time off. That kept me away. Rothfuss and George RR Burned me on that.
Post by: ben ji on May 15, 2016, 09:36:39 PM
So I never did read that girl on the train book I bought but they made a movie of it with Emily blunt ( :love:) so now I get to know what happens without reading :excited:
I read it right after gone girl, really just got my fill of #UnhappyGirlsTurnToMurder fiction. It was a decent read but the ending was subpar, gone girl was better if we are comparing the 2.
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 08:48:39 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 08:54:39 AM
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 09:21:13 AM
Any suggesstions
Post by: michigancat on May 16, 2016, 09:24:04 AM
going on vacation Saturday to friday. The Mrs. wants us both to read a book.A George Saunders short story collection. Any of them should work.
Any suggesstions
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 09:32:37 AM
going on vacation Saturday to friday. The Mrs. wants us both to read a book.
Any suggesstions
Gone Girl
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 16, 2016, 06:53:35 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 16, 2016, 06:58:53 PM
going on vacation Saturday to friday. The Mrs. wants us both to read a book.
Any suggesstions
Do you want to read a book?
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 07:06:57 PM
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Post by: pvegs on May 16, 2016, 07:46:57 PM
BTW, that list goes 2015 NBCCA award, 2016 Pulitzer winner, 2015 National Book Award, and probably the poetry collection that will win the NBA for poetry in 2016 and has already won a Whiting.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 16, 2016, 08:29:54 PM
Post by: pvegs on May 17, 2016, 02:53:07 AM
which two would be best for reading on the way to hawaii and in hawaii on a beach?
Probably none of those. "Fortune Smiles" is the most "feel comfortable in public while reading" of those books, though it will still make you mildly uncomfortable.
Post by: pvegs on May 17, 2016, 02:56:29 AM
which two would be best for reading on the way to hawaii and in hawaii on a beach?
Probably none of those. "Fortune Smiles" is the most "feel comfortable in public while reading" of those books, though it will still make you mildly uncomfortable.
Ocean Vuong is poetry, so you can just pick up and read when you want. No presh type situation. Nice guy, irl. Not a humble brag. Just actually a nice guy, and buying his book you can feel good morally in terms of who your money is contributing to. And Copper Canyon is his press. They publish most big deal poets. Ed Skoog, for instance, who is a K-State grad and has his name on Hale, is a Copper Canyon poet. Ed is from Topeka, so you know he's Kansas OG. Drank Pabst and watched the K-State/Miami game w/me in Missoula when Sams was killing it circa 2012. eff, just read Skoog, too. He's great.
Post by: Pete on May 17, 2016, 06:33:10 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 08:27:49 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 17, 2016, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 17, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
The Adventures of Cavalier and Klay
Lovecraft Country
The Girl with Ghost Eyes
The Census Taker
None were bad. Cavalier and Klay was relatively long and I enjoyed that it wasn't just a linear 3 act story. Getting ready to read The Only Rule is it Has to Work, which KK might enjoy as a baseball fan.
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2016, 11:38:32 AM
Post by: Fedor on May 17, 2016, 11:43:52 AM
I read 100 years of solitude. Eh, not my favorite.Yeah, that was my take as well.
Rereading Dune right now.
Post by: Cire on May 17, 2016, 11:47:01 AM
How can I get into more fiction? It seems so wide open, what if you start reading and aren't interested? With history/bio I pick stuff that I know I'll be interested in.
What gives
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
I pretty much only read History/Biography
How can I get into more fiction? It seems so wide open, what if you start reading and aren't interested? With history/bio I pick stuff that I know I'll be interested in.
What gives
I pretty much only read fiction. But I do like some historical fiction, so maybe start there. I really like Ken Follett but some of his books are pretty long.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 18, 2016, 08:30:47 PM
which two would be best for reading on the way to hawaii and in hawaii on a beach?
Probably none of those. "Fortune Smiles" is the most "feel comfortable in public while reading" of those books, though it will still make you mildly uncomfortable.
Went with this and his North Korea novel (hopefully as good as steve dave's!) I will try the Ocean Vuong, but I am nearing $150 in book purchases on Amazon the last week.
My Hawaii reading list:
Mythology Edith Hamilton
The Prophet Khalil Gibran
The Old Man and the Sea Papa Bear (read it every summer)
will also take Fortune Smiles
Post by: Cire on May 18, 2016, 09:37:16 PM
Read and liked pillars but was not interested enough to read any others.I pretty much only read History/Biography
How can I get into more fiction? It seems so wide open, what if you start reading and aren't interested? With history/bio I pick stuff that I know I'll be interested in.
What gives
I pretty much only read fiction. But I do like some historical fiction, so maybe start there. I really like Ken Follett but some of his books are pretty long.
Thinking about Custers trials. Pulitzer and such
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
which two would be best for reading on the way to hawaii and in hawaii on a beach?
Probably none of those. "Fortune Smiles" is the most "feel comfortable in public while reading" of those books, though it will still make you mildly uncomfortable.
Went with this and his North Korea novel (hopefully as good as steve dave's!) I will try the Ocean Vuong, but I am nearing $150 in book purchases on Amazon the last week.
My Hawaii reading list:
Mythology Edith Hamilton
The Prophet Khalil Gibran
The Old Man and the Sea Papa Bear (read it every summer)
will also take Fortune Smiles
Orphan Master's Son is pretty absurd but would be a great beach read.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 18, 2016, 09:57:43 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 18, 2016, 10:00:09 PM
Read and liked pillars but was not interested enough to read any others.I pretty much only read History/Biography
How can I get into more fiction? It seems so wide open, what if you start reading and aren't interested? With history/bio I pick stuff that I know I'll be interested in.
What gives
I pretty much only read fiction. But I do like some historical fiction, so maybe start there. I really like Ken Follett but some of his books are pretty long.
Thinking about Custers trials. Pulitzer and such
Follett's Century Trilogy is really good. Fall of Giants happens during WWI, Winter of the World during WWII, and Edge of Eternity during the civil rights movement. I rated them all 5 stars on Goodreads.
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2016, 10:10:39 PM
Post by: pvegs on May 19, 2016, 10:34:01 AM
Just finished Drinking: A Love Story last night. Pretty damn good memoir. Definitely called attention to some troubling personality traits of mine.
Damn, man, that's a good memoir. She died, too, years ago, from lung cancer. You can fact check me, but pretty certain. RIP, Ms. Knapp.
Post by: pvegs on May 19, 2016, 10:34:58 AM
which two would be best for reading on the way to hawaii and in hawaii on a beach?
Probably none of those. "Fortune Smiles" is the most "feel comfortable in public while reading" of those books, though it will still make you mildly uncomfortable.
Went with this and his North Korea novel (hopefully as good as steve dave's!) I will try the Ocean Vuong, but I am nearing $150 in book purchases on Amazon the last week.
My Hawaii reading list:
Mythology Edith Hamilton
The Prophet Khalil Gibran
The Old Man and the Sea Papa Bear (read it every summer)
will also take Fortune Smiles
Holy Smokes, KK :) Hope you like FS.
Post by: pvegs on May 19, 2016, 10:39:18 AM
I read 100 years of solitude. Eh, not my favorite.
Yeah, I don't got the hype, Mich. It's one of those books everyone is forced to read in high school, like The Fountainhead or something (obviously Marquez is not as awful as AR, just an analogy), and you just look back on your 17 year-old self that liked it at the time and :lol: :lol:
Post by: pvegs on May 19, 2016, 10:41:13 AM
which two would be best for reading on the way to hawaii and in hawaii on a beach?
Probably none of those. "Fortune Smiles" is the most "feel comfortable in public while reading" of those books, though it will still make you mildly uncomfortable.
Went with this and his North Korea novel (hopefully as good as steve dave's!) I will try the Ocean Vuong, but I am nearing $150 in book purchases on Amazon the last week.
My Hawaii reading list:
Mythology Edith Hamilton
The Prophet Khalil Gibran
The Old Man and the Sea Papa Bear (read it every summer)
will also take Fortune Smiles
Orphan Master's Son is pretty absurd but would be a great beach read.
Man, Mich is killing it in this thread. That's def a good one too, but for my money, FS tops it. Taste and aesthetic, tho, it's all subjective.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
Just finished Drinking: A Love Story last night. Pretty damn good memoir. Definitely called attention to some troubling personality traits of mine.
Damn, man, that's a good memoir. She died, too, years ago, from lung cancer. You can fact check me, but pretty certain. RIP, Ms. Knapp.
I really enjoyed it. You are correct, she passed in 2002 from lung cancer.
I moved on to I Am Not Myself These Days by Josh Kilmer-Purcell, and I'm enjoying it even more.
Post by: Cire on May 25, 2016, 08:22:28 PM
Good. Perfect for vacation reading
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Post by: Asteriskhead on June 23, 2016, 03:38:36 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on June 23, 2016, 03:56:52 PM
I haven't started Fortune Smiles and won't until after the 4th of July as I am going to be pretty bogged down with some work, but July will be some great reading time for ole KK.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 23, 2016, 04:02:17 PM
Orphan Master's Son was incredible.
I haven't started Fortune Smiles and won't until after the 4th of July as I am going to be pretty bogged down with some work, but July will be some great reading time for ole KK.
I have been enjoying sitting by the neighborhood pool with ice cold beers and my kindle
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 26, 2016, 10:03:42 PM
I miss bread. A lot.Should I read dune?
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2016, 10:45:33 PM
I miss bread. A lot.Should I read dune?
I've never read it.
Post by: michigancat on June 26, 2016, 11:18:30 PM
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 01:09:15 AM
Should I read dune?
no.
Post by: michigancat on June 27, 2016, 07:57:18 AM
TOO LATE THANKSShould I read dune?
no.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 28, 2016, 03:56:02 PM
Post by: Fedor on June 28, 2016, 04:25:27 PM
I read 100 years of solitude. Eh, not my favorite.Yeah, that was my take as well.
Rereading Dune right now.
I miss bread. A lot.Should I read dune?
Did I inspire you mich? :excited:
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2016, 05:26:34 PM
I read 100 years of solitude. Eh, not my favorite.Yeah, that was my take as well.
Rereading Dune right now.I miss bread. A lot.Should I read dune?
Did I inspire you mich? :excited:
no! but I'm enjoying Dune so far!
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2016, 08:10:36 AM
Any have any great fantasy or scifi series to recommend that we haven't already covered?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 29, 2016, 08:39:06 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on June 29, 2016, 08:49:59 AM
On the third book of the Gentlemen Bastards series...aka the Lies Locke Lamora series. It's decent, wasn't a waste of time, but definitely not as good as quite a few other fantasy series I would recommend first.
Any have any great fantasy or scifi series to recommend that we haven't already covered?
Have you read any Phillip K Dick?
not series, but lots to choose from. I really liked Ubik.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
Just did American Pastoral by Roth, not as fun. Interesting dismantling of the American Dream though.
Doing Cloudsplitter now
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2016, 09:46:18 AM
Post by: 8manpick on July 06, 2016, 10:01:19 AM
A Scanner Darkly is great! Also read his short story collections tooOn the third book of the Gentlemen Bastards series...aka the Lies Locke Lamora series. It's decent, wasn't a waste of time, but definitely not as good as quite a few other fantasy series I would recommend first.
Any have any great fantasy or scifi series to recommend that we haven't already covered?
Have you read any Phillip K Dick?
not series, but lots to choose from. I really liked Ubik.
Post by: Brock Landers on July 06, 2016, 10:25:59 AM
The fact that a nuke hasn't gone off by accident yet is probably due to luck rather than human intervention.
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 06, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
Ready Player One by Cline is a pretty fun little read. If you are a video game nerd, you'd like it I bet.
Just did American Pastoral by Roth, not as fun. Interesting dismantling of the American Dream though.
Doing Cloudsplitter now
Wil Wheaton narrating the audio book is amazeballs.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2016, 11:56:42 AM
Also, Dodgers by Bill Beverly. Crime novel about gangs and whatnot. I've never read that genre but it was ok, if anyone has favs in that world let me know.
Do you like true crime, or just a fiction brah?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2016, 12:00:07 PM
Also, Dodgers by Bill Beverly. Crime novel about gangs and whatnot. I've never read that genre but it was ok, if anyone has favs in that world let me know.
Do you like true crime, or just a fiction brah?
Either. I've done a few true crime recently (Ghettoside by Levoy, The Central Park Five by Burns,) and I'd be interested in more. Crime fiction is just never a genre I've dipped into
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 06, 2016, 12:01:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 06, 2016, 12:04:12 PM
Wiseguy - henry hill story, what goodfellas is based on
Gangland - fbi accounts of their investigation/surveillance of john gotti. Very interesting
Post by: michigancat on July 06, 2016, 12:14:45 PM
Tim Geithner's book was OK. The parts about Dodd-Frank were especially interesting to me.
Also reading Sapiens. Good so far.
Post by: Kat Kid on July 06, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
Gang Leader for a day.Also, Dodgers by Bill Beverly. Crime novel about gangs and whatnot. I've never read that genre but it was ok, if anyone has favs in that world let me know.
Do you like true crime, or just a fiction brah?
Either. I've done a few true crime recently (Ghettoside by Levoy, The Central Park Five by Burns,) and I'd be interested in more. Crime fiction is just never a genre I've dipped into
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Post by: CNS on July 06, 2016, 01:09:44 PM
I'm enjoying Dune
Tim Geithner's book was OK. The parts about Dodd-Frank were especially interesting to me.
Also reading Sapiens. Good so far.
Sapiens is one I have heard a lot of good things about, but reading the description doesn't make me want to read it.
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Post by: mocat on July 08, 2016, 12:19:48 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2016, 03:26:58 PM
Post by: CNS on July 27, 2016, 03:28:22 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 27, 2016, 03:33:02 PM
Just started reading a book which is a combination of The Hunger Games and The Bachelor.
was it called the hunger games because the hunger games is basically a combo of the hunger games and the bachelor
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2016, 03:37:20 PM
Just started reading a book which is a combination of The Hunger Games and The Bachelor.
was it called the hunger games because the hunger games is basically a combo of the hunger games and the bachelor
In this book women have to fight to the death in order to win a man (because there are so few men). Also, the men are slaves.
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2016, 03:48:49 PM
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 28, 2016, 04:14:21 PM
slaves to who (or whom?)
Well there are only a few men, so they are slaves (mostly sex slaves) to the high powered women and then also the women who win the Bachelor Battle (i.e. fight to the death to win a man).
Post by: Gooch on July 28, 2016, 04:19:03 PM
Post by: Pete on August 08, 2016, 12:04:23 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 08, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 08, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
Holy crap, it's amazing the planet isn't a smoking nuclear wasteland. Really.
Post by: Missouriscribe on August 08, 2016, 09:00:39 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 08, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
The War of Art. It's pretty challenging.
You really think so? I remember finding it fairly interesting, but it has been awhile since I read it. Bread gave me crap ITT for reading it. I miss Mr. Bread
Post by: Missouriscribe on August 08, 2016, 09:42:05 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on August 08, 2016, 10:06:12 PM
Post by: ben ji on August 10, 2016, 08:38:27 AM
"Why Nations Fail" The origins of Power, Prosperity and Poverty. Its a little long in the tooth but I've enjoyed it so far.
"Prisoners of Geography" 10 Maps that explain everything about the world. :love: :love: :love: :love: Started it last night and made it about halfway through, very fun book. Each chapter is a geopolitical summary of different nations/parts of the world.
Post by: Pete on August 10, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
I haven't read any of those. Tell me more!
Hyperion stuff is kind of a blend of fantasy/sci fi. The first one (I think just called Hyperion) is like Canterbury Tales where all the people on some quest like tell some story and they all kind of circle back on each other later on
I am in the midst of the first Hyperion book right now and really enjoying it!
Post by: ChiComCat on August 31, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 31, 2016, 10:21:52 AM
Just read Dune on a recent trip and enjoyed it. I didn't realize until recently that there are a number of sequels. Given the length of the first book, I was hoping someone knows if they are any good before I start a 12 hour investment.
I thought Dune started pretty great (once I figured out who everyone was) but the tail end was just incredibly boring and stupid.
Read chings recommendos The Magus and Dawn. SO GOOD, both. Although The Magus was a little slow/draggy for the first half.
Post by: ChiComCat on August 31, 2016, 10:35:34 AM
Just read Dune on a recent trip and enjoyed it. I didn't realize until recently that there are a number of sequels. Given the length of the first book, I was hoping someone knows if they are any good before I start a 12 hour investment.
I thought Dune started pretty great (once I figured out who everyone was) but the tail end was just incredibly boring and stupid.
Read chings recommendos The Magus and Dawn. SO GOOD, both. Although The Magus was a little slow/draggy for the first half.
I largely agree with you on Dune but still really enjoyed it. It kept building these complex cultures towards a war and then you basically end up with a brief summary of the last battle.
Post by: Brock Landers on October 13, 2016, 10:15:54 AM
Red Mars - space travel and terraforming stuff. Firm ball grip.
Green Mars - less cool spacey/nerdy/sciencey stuff from the first book but plenty of discussion about space politics and space economics! Grip loosened.
Blue Mars - still meh, I only read this one since I read the first 2 books.
Post by: ben ji on October 13, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
"Dust" was the follow up, loved it as well!
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 13, 2016, 10:22:55 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 13, 2016, 10:24:17 AM
I'm reading the Breakers series. It is a post-apocalyptic type where 95% of the population is wiped out by a virus. It is very good. There are 8 books in the series. I got the first set of 3 free on BookBub and then I paid for the next set of 3. I am currently int he middle of book 4.
Mrs gooch, if you love post-apocalyptic books as much as I do you should read the 2 above.
Also I will definitely check out the breakers series.
Post by: CNS on October 13, 2016, 10:25:22 AM
I have been wanting to read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy for a while now and just started it yesterday. It reads fast and is somewhat ridiculous so far, but I like it. Only about 25% into it so far.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 13, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
I'm reading the Breakers series. It is a post-apocalyptic type where 95% of the population is wiped out by a virus. It is very good. There are 8 books in the series. I got the first set of 3 free on BookBub and then I paid for the next set of 3. I am currently int he middle of book 4.
Mrs gooch, if you love post-apocalyptic books as much as I do you should read the 2 above.
Also I will definitely check out the breakers series.
Yes, I've already read those. You didn't mention Shift, it is the middle of that series. Did you read it too?
And also another book by Hugh Howey, Sand, is very good.
If you liked those, I think you would like the Breakers Series. It is not depressing, just makes you think about all the conveniences we have and how things change when those are no longer available.
Post by: ben ji on October 13, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
I'm reading the Breakers series. It is a post-apocalyptic type where 95% of the population is wiped out by a virus. It is very good. There are 8 books in the series. I got the first set of 3 free on BookBub and then I paid for the next set of 3. I am currently int he middle of book 4.
Mrs gooch, if you love post-apocalyptic books as much as I do you should read the 2 above.
Also I will definitely check out the breakers series.
Yes, I've already read those. You didn't mention Shift, it is the middle of that series. Did you read it too?
And also another book by Hugh Howey, Sand, is very good.
If you liked those, I think you would like the Breakers Series. It is not depressing, just makes you think about all the conveniences we have and how things change when those are no longer available.
I've got a hold placed for shift at the library, #1 in line!!!
Post by: star seed 7 on October 13, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
"Wool" Loved it
"Dust" was the follow up, loved it as well!
Shift was the best imo
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Post by: Pete on October 13, 2016, 12:00:08 PM
I hadn't read a ton of science fiction. This is book series is science fiction mixed with kicking ass, mixed with theology, mixed with politics, mixed with awesomeness.
Post by: ben ji on October 25, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
I'm reading the Breakers series. It is a post-apocalyptic type where 95% of the population is wiped out by a virus. It is very good. There are 8 books in the series. I got the first set of 3 free on BookBub and then I paid for the next set of 3. I am currently int he middle of book 4.
Finished the first breakers book and am halfway through the second, loving it. I feel like they are all going to follow the same premise of
1. Person is a loser
2. Everyone dies
3. They become badass ninja warrior who destroys aliens and bad guys
How about I just buy your books 3-6 when your done?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 25, 2016, 04:48:04 PM
POV character 1 is in one place. POV character 2 is in another place. Eventually they end up in the same place.
My books 3-6 are Amazon/Kindle books. I think there is a way to loan them though.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 09, 2016, 08:32:38 PM
When She Woke
https://www.amazon.com/When-She-Woke-Hillary-Jordan-ebook/dp/B0096BS448/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1478744924&sr=1-1&keywords=when+she+woke
Hunger Games
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MQYOFW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
The Handmaid's Tale
https://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tale-Margaret-Atwood/dp/038549081X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478745019&sr=8-1&keywords=the+handmaid%27s+tale
Unwind
https://www.amazon.com/Unwind-Dystology-Neal-Shusterman/dp/1416912053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478745099&sr=8-1&keywords=unwind+neal+shusterman
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2016, 11:34:36 AM
Here are some books to read to prepare for our future...
When She Woke
https://www.amazon.com/When-She-Woke-Hillary-Jordan-ebook/dp/B0096BS448/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1478744924&sr=1-1&keywords=when+she+woke
Hunger Games
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MQYOFW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
The Handmaid's Tale
https://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tale-Margaret-Atwood/dp/038549081X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478745019&sr=8-1&keywords=the+handmaid%27s+tale
Unwind
https://www.amazon.com/Unwind-Dystology-Neal-Shusterman/dp/1416912053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478745099&sr=8-1&keywords=unwind+neal+shusterman
If Fatty were still with us, I'd add Diary of Anne Frank.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 10, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 10, 2016, 03:15:07 PM
recommend me something sciencey. looking for something along the lines of Guns, Germs, and Steel.
1491 has some pretty interesting stuff in it.
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2016, 03:42:54 PM
recommend me something sciencey. looking for something along the lines of Guns, Germs, and Steel.
1491 has some pretty interesting stuff in it.
1493 is also great.
Sapiens is science light but interesting philosophically and a very good read:
https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari-ebook/dp/B00ICN066A?ie=UTF8&me=&ref_=mt_kindle
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 10, 2017, 08:42:28 AM
Post by: CHONGS on January 18, 2017, 01:27:40 PM
I finished the Breakers series last night. It was very good.Your Bible Qs in the pit make me think you should read the gospel according to jesus christ. His writing style is strange in the beginning, but you get used to it.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 18, 2017, 01:33:22 PM
I finished the Breakers series last night. It was very good.Your Bible Qs in the pit make me think you should read the gospel according to jesus christ. His writing style is strange in the beginning, but you get used to it.
Looks interesting. I'll look into it more when I finish the book I am currently reading. Thanks.
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picked up some more Octavia spencer on kindle sale. my understanding of the female condition is soon to be unparalleleled?!?
uh, butler
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 26, 2017, 03:49:51 PM
I finished the Breakers series last night. It was very good.Your Bible Qs in the pit make me think you should read the gospel according to jesus christ. His writing style is strange in the beginning, but you get used to it.
Looks interesting. I'll look into it more when I finish the book I am currently reading. Thanks.
So far I've only read the first introduction chapter. It is basically just a description of a painting, but it already has my interest.
Post by: felix rex on January 27, 2017, 02:44:42 AM
I read 100 years of solitude. Eh, not my favorite.
Yeah, I don't got the hype, Mich. It's one of those books everyone is forced to read in high school, like The Fountainhead or something (obviously Marquez is not as awful as AR, just an analogy), and you just look back on your 17 year-old self that liked it at the time and :lol: :lol:
This book was directly related to me switching majors in grad school. I was halfway through a paper on how the plot is organized around powerful women or some such bullshit and was like "OMG WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE"
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 10, 2017, 07:59:14 AM
I finished the Breakers series last night. It was very good.Your Bible Qs in the pit make me think you should read the gospel according to jesus christ. His writing style is strange in the beginning, but you get used to it.
Looks interesting. I'll look into it more when I finish the book I am currently reading. Thanks.
So far I've only read the first introduction chapter. It is basically just a description of a painting, but it already has my interest.
I'm almost done with this book and it is very good. I can't believe the Catholic church didn't have all of the copies burned.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 10, 2017, 10:04:22 AM
Post by: DQ12 on February 10, 2017, 10:13:50 AM
I'm working through The Idiot, on Bubbles' reccomendo.
Post by: SdK on February 10, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
Tale of Two Cities, SDK. It's the most beautiful English prose there's ever been.I think I own it just never read it. Will check it out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/8fc97124bc8ce3390a707f26c4f27988.jpg)
I'm working through The Idiot, on Bubbles' reccomendo.
Ahhh yes!
Along with Anna Karenina, a very famous opening line.
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Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2017, 12:06:13 PM
Dawn by Octavia Butler
Chingon is really good at recommending books. I read the whole series and it was great.
I just finished the series. Agree it's fantastic but goddam the ending seemed rushed.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 14, 2017, 12:43:27 PM
at bedtime to kid:
finished Harry Potter book 1
reading Harry Potter book 2 and Alice and Wonderland
me off/on:
The Assassination of Julius Caesar (picked this back up after starting and leaving a lot)
HP Lovecraft short stories
also occasionally reading Crumb's comic book version of the book of Genesis (very weird)
I like short stories in general and really like the fact that Lovecraft's have some common allusions/objects that populate a world. Once you get past the racism, pretty good sci fi. Kind of a Sherlock Holmes meets Phillip K Dick.
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2017, 01:52:48 PM
Post by: DQ12 on February 14, 2017, 03:29:21 PM
Short stories are great. I'm currently reading Foner's abridged history of reconstruction. Shout out to Charles Sumnermy BOY! only thing I know of Sumner is that he got his ass beat on the floor of congress for being a bit of a smartass while arguing for abolition, but that's my favorite story I know.
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2017, 05:07:48 PM
Wow, what a great faux pas I made. I meant to say Charles Sanders! The great KSU history professor who used Foner as a class text.Short stories are great. I'm currently reading Foner's abridged history of reconstruction. Shout out to Charles Sumnermy BOY! only thing I know of Sumner is that he got his ass beat on the floor of congress for being a bit of a smartass while arguing for abolition, but that's my favorite story I know.
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Post by: michigancat on February 24, 2017, 09:29:56 AM
I am a quarter into 1Q84 and it is blowing my mind. Where on Earth is all of this going!?!?It gets weirder!!! Great book.
Post by: DQ12 on February 24, 2017, 09:34:56 AM
sanders is my boy too! it's an easy mistake you made because Sanders tells the Charles Sumner story amazingly.Wow, what a great faux pas I made. I meant to say Charles Sanders! The great KSU history professor who used Foner as a class text.Short stories are great. I'm currently reading Foner's abridged history of reconstruction. Shout out to Charles Sumnermy BOY! only thing I know of Sumner is that he got his ass beat on the floor of congress for being a bit of a smartass while arguing for abolition, but that's my favorite story I know.
i emailed him (sanders -- not sumner) a couple years ago telling him how that's still my favorite story and how I tell it every chance i get and how he's the greatest professor i ever had. he never responded.
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Post by: Pete on February 25, 2017, 07:52:05 PM
Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan. It was fun. It's described as cyber punk, but it's part detective novel as well. people jumping in and out of other people's bodies. Cool stuff.
Light Bringer series by Brent Weeks. Novel way of thinking about super powers type stuff. Everything is related to spectrums of light, and the color in each spectrum. Fun. Series isn't done yet.
Lies of Loche Lamora, and follow-up books in the series by Scott Lynch. About a medieval/renaissance gang of con artists and thieves. Big heist type stuff. Also fun to tread. Has some Pirate type stuff too, which was interesting.
Night Watch, by Sergei Lukyanenko. A Russian vampire and wizard battle type story, taking place in 90's Moscow. Just so-so.
Finished Joe Abercrombie's "Shattered Sea" series. Very Meh. This was his YA series. All his other stuff is fantastic, this not so much.
Brent Week's latest in the Demon Cycle Series. Love this series. So much fun. Mr. Bread got me into them. Series isn't done yet.
The Way of Kings, by Brandon Sanderson, in his new Starlight Archive series. Great book, really enjoyed it. Unfortunately, the series isn't done, so it will be annoying to wait for new books.
Post by: Cire on February 25, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Good. Leo and Scorsese are making a movie
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Post by: Pete on February 25, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
Devil in the white city
Good. Leo and Scorsese are making a movie
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I trust Cire's recommendos. Will read after this next Brandon Sanderson Stormlight book.
Post by: Cire on February 25, 2017, 10:57:42 PM
Movie should be great
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Post by: puniraptor on March 05, 2017, 01:35:49 AM
Men's rights trigger warning tho.
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Post by: Pete on March 05, 2017, 07:10:37 AM
I thought it was too ridiculous
Like, not even enjoyable because of it?
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2017, 02:04:17 PM
Post by: Pete on March 05, 2017, 02:41:43 PM
No, it was decent but towards the end I was like, wtf just happened? This got so stupid all of a sudden. It goes from hard science fiction to lord of the rings from one chapter to the next. Still good imo, but if that kind of thing bothers you just be aware.
Relative to Hyperion Cantos, how did you like it?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 10, 2017, 09:35:52 PM
Post by: puniraptor on March 13, 2017, 05:18:17 AM
No, it was decent but towards the end I was like, wtf just happened? This got so stupid all of a sudden. It goes from hard science fiction to lord of the rings from one chapter to the next. Still good imo, but if that kind of thing bothers you just be aware.I kinda get what you're saying but I don't really agree. I needed that last third and wanted it to go on 4 evvies. The last third is a common complaint on the reviews it seems.
I thought your complaint was going to be the exhaustively thorough and detailed explanations of technical systems that could be quite a grind for some people I'm sure.
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2017, 09:26:47 PM
I am currently waiting on books by Patrick Rothfuss (Kingkiller chronicles), Peter Brett (Demon Cycle), Brent Weeks (Lightbringer series), Joe Abercrombie (First Law series) and George RR Martin.
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2017, 09:44:11 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Evicted-Poverty-Profit-American-City/dp/0553447432
Heartbreaking non-fiction. So good though.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 21, 2017, 01:31:14 PM
I am a quarter into 1Q84 and it is blowing my mind. Where on Earth is all of this going!?!?
i don't recall the last act very well, but it is a very interesting and wierd book.
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Post by: Canary on March 21, 2017, 10:09:47 PM
Kane & Abel by Jeffrey Archer - dogshit writing (this happened and then this happened and then this happened FOR SIXTY YEARS), the hero is a noble 1%'r, the antagonist's motive is totally stupid, and there is a completely unnecessary gang rape/murder of a 15 year old girl thrown in about 1/4 through. but i read the whole dang thing so obviously i am here to tell gE about itI actually own this book. I saw the movie many many years ago. I ran across the book and bought it. There are parts that bothered me but there's enough that kept me into it.
Post by: SdK on March 23, 2017, 12:26:58 AM
1984 is great. Blew my mind and made me sad and also in love.I am a quarter into 1Q84 and it is blowing my mind. Where on Earth is all of this going!?!?
i don't recall the last act very well, but it is a very interesting and wierd book.
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btw did you guys know that infinite jest is the size of the bible?
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Post by: star seed 7 on March 23, 2017, 09:14:36 AM
I answer the surveys on Google and use that money to buy more books
I did this for a long time but they haven't given me a survey in like 2 years now probably. I had worked up a balance of like $100 so maybe they got tired of giving me money
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 23, 2017, 09:16:38 AM
I answer the surveys on Google and use that money to buy more books
I have never seen this..
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Post by: SdK on March 23, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
I'm sitting at around 2 dollars now. I keep buying books.I answer the surveys on Google and use that money to buy more books
I did this for a long time but they haven't given me a survey in like 2 years now probably. I had worked up a balance of like $100 so maybe they got tired of giving me money
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
I'm reading this:It made me cry. Everyone should read this.
https://www.amazon.com/Evicted-Poverty-Profit-American-City/dp/0553447432
Heartbreaking non-fiction. So good though.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 23, 2017, 01:09:50 PM
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Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2017, 01:17:29 PM
Reading hillbilly elegy, will read this vast southern empire next. Still reading assassination of Julius Caesar will pick citizens back up later.
Will report back later
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That looks like a good one. Have you read Evicted? I was thinking of you when recommending.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 23, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
Reading hillbilly elegy, will read this vast southern empire next. Still reading assassination of Julius Caesar will pick citizens back up later.
Will report back later
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That looks like a good one. Have you read Evicted? I was thinking of you when recommending.
No, will circle back. But probably doing some ancient/classical history before I come back around to modern.
How different is it from Family Properties?
I still want to read dark money by Jane Mayer and nickel and dined (old book).
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Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Reading hillbilly elegy, will read this vast southern empire next. Still reading assassination of Julius Caesar will pick citizens back up later.
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That looks like a good one. Have you read Evicted? I was thinking of you when recommending.
No, will circle back. But probably doing some ancient/classical history before I come back around to modern.
How different is it from Family Properties?
I still want to read dark money by Jane Mayer and nickel and dined (old book).
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It's modern and a first person account. (It's not actually written in first person, but the author lived in a trailer park and the north side of Milwaukee to meet the families he wrote about it.) It's also a more general look at how the poor live in general imo.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 23, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 23, 2017, 08:44:44 PM
This Google Rewards survey thing is a scam. I signed up and competed 2 surveys and after each one they said "Not all surveys earn credit" and I didn't get paid anything. WTF!
:runaway:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2017, 11:46:31 PM
:cool:
Post by: Dual Ju on March 29, 2017, 11:53:26 PM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
I'm half way through Devil in the White City. It's interesting non-fiction. I think they're making a movie about it with DiCaprio. Lots of references to how cold Chicago was, so not sure if that's what you want when you're on a beach.
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2017, 11:58:42 PM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
I'm half way through Devil in the White City. It's interesting non-fiction. I think they're making a movie about it with DiCaprio. Lots of references to how cold Chicago was, so not sure if that's what you want when you're on a beach.
that's a good one! :thumbs:
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2017, 07:12:40 AM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
non-fiction: https://www.amazon.com/Ship-Gold-Deep-Blue-Sea/dp/B004H8GM9Y
Post by: CHONGS on March 30, 2017, 08:56:13 AM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Trilogy
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199753814/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_25t3ybZX6YDJG
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2017, 01:19:44 PM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199753814/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_25t3ybZX6YDJG
I tried to read "Particle at the end of the Earth" and I've never felt so dumb in my life.
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Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2017, 02:16:02 PM
What should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199753814/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_25t3ybZX6YDJG
I tried to read "Particle at the end of the Earth" and I've never felt so dumb in my life.
Haven't read that but I'm probably gonna order it :excited:
And I'm assuming it's about the Higgs Boson?
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2017, 02:20:12 PM
Yeah and the large hadron colliderWhat should I read on the beach next week? Ideally one or two fiction and one non fiction.
:cool:
Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199753814/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_25t3ybZX6YDJG
I tried to read "Particle at the end of the Earth" and I've never felt so dumb in my life.
Haven't read that but I'm probably gonna order it :excited:
And I'm assuming it's about the Higgs Boson?
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on March 30, 2017, 02:37:35 PM
This might seem like a weird criticism but there's a shitload of exclamation points used. Also don't care for how he trashed Gus Grissom's rep but otherwise a decent fun read especially if you're into old timey space race history stuff.
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2017, 02:58:56 PM
And it's particle at the end of the universe, lol
That's why I was asking if it was about the Higgs. Wanted to make sure we were talking about the same book :D
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 04, 2017, 02:07:53 PM
Post by: CHONGS on April 04, 2017, 02:51:12 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 04, 2017, 03:04:35 PM
Now read Blindness
OK!
Post by: CHONGS on April 04, 2017, 03:05:20 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2017, 09:00:19 PM
Now read Blindness
Is it ironic that the only copy of Blindness available at the Wichita library is a large print edition?
Post by: CHONGS on April 07, 2017, 10:49:45 PM
I think so!Now read Blindness
Is it ironic that the only copy of Blindness available at the Wichita library is a large print edition?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 25, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
I think it was my favorite of his.
It was my favorite so far too.
Post by: mocat on May 01, 2017, 10:45:49 AM
I finished On the Road and And the Hippos within the last week. I had never read any of the beats before. I don't really feel strongly one way or the other. I suppose I'll read a few more from these guys, probably at least Howl and Naked Lunch, so I can laugh some more over what people considered obscene back then, and move on to something else.
i just finished on the road. it was exhilarating!
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 11, 2017, 03:18:33 PM
recommend me something sciencey. looking for something along the lines of Guns, Germs, and Steel.
1491 has some pretty interesting stuff in it.
1493 is also great.
Sapiens is science light but interesting philosophically and a very good read:
https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari-ebook/dp/B00ICN066A?ie=UTF8&me=&ref_=mt_kindle
Thanks guys. Fascinating book, I'll read it again.
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 24, 2017, 07:25:41 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 24, 2017, 08:25:37 AM
Lost City of Z - Fun non-fiction. Makes me feel like not a real man when I read about these Amazon explorers. Insane.
Michigancat, I'm about 2/3rds through Evicted. Dude. Thanks for the recommendation.
Post by: chum1 on May 24, 2017, 08:44:18 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 24, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
looks p good to me
Post by: chum1 on June 14, 2017, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: bucket on June 14, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
Hillbilly Elegy - Easy read and I found the perspective of the author very reasonable.
Lost City of Z - Fun non-fiction. Makes me feel like not a real man when I read about these Amazon explorers. Insane.
Michigancat, I'm about 2/3rds through Evicted. Dude. Thanks for the recommendation.
I'm planning on watching the movie Lost City of Z, soon.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 14, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
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Post by: Brock Landers on June 26, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
Moby Dick
:zzz:
Do Not Recommend.
Just finished this. Also do not recommend. What an overrated, overly wordy snoozefest inducing piece of crap. Whatever story was trying to be told got capsized by a rogue wave of words.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 26, 2017, 05:47:25 PM
I picked up handmaid's tale and it is very good.
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definitely worth the read.
Also just read "Kill All Normies" about the rise of 4chan and the alt-right from online to the real world and it is pretty good, it is short. I am also picking Matt Karp's "This Vast Southern Empire" back up after taking a break.
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2017, 06:41:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2017, 07:53:54 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 26, 2017, 08:07:26 PM
Hmm, I might have to check out that 4chan book
You might like this: https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb
Post by: Kat Kid on June 26, 2017, 08:17:13 PM
Hmm, I might have to check out that 4chan book
it is not solely focused on 4chan and isn't a history of 4chan, talks a lot about Milo and Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones and stuff.
Post by: Tobias on June 26, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2017, 08:47:06 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 27, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2017, 07:46:48 PM
Hmm, I might have to check out that 4chan book
You might like this: https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb
I enjoyed reading that.
Post by: steve dave on June 27, 2017, 08:53:23 PM
Just started reading 1st H Potter outloud with lil CF3. Have never read/watched H Potter before.
I'm excited to read books to lil ad that don't have pictures. May start this one. Also have never read/seen it. He just turned 4. Too early? Anyone done this?
Post by: michigancat on June 27, 2017, 09:27:02 PM
I think it's pretty scary. I think my kids were 5 or 6 though so you're probably fine if he's enjoying himself.Just started reading 1st H Potter outloud with lil CF3. Have never read/watched H Potter before.
I'm excited to read books to lil ad that don't have pictures. May start this one. Also have never read/seen it. He just turned 4. Too early? Anyone done this?
Post by: Kat Kid on June 27, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
Just started reading 1st H Potter outloud with lil CF3. Have never read/watched H Potter before.
I did this with the first and second. They have illustrated editions that the boy received for Xmas.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2017, 08:56:17 AM
I picked up handmaid's tale and it is very good.
I didn't want to bother figuring out Hulu, so I just picked up the (e)book also.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:22:11 AM
Just started reading 1st H Potter outloud with lil CF3. Have never read/watched H Potter before.
I'm excited to read books to lil ad that don't have pictures. May start this one. Also have never read/seen it. He just turned 4. Too early? Anyone done this?
lil CF3 is 7 so he's doing great with the pace of this book, but 4 might be a bit young (not because scary, but just parts are slow). I'd start off with something faster like The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or really any of the Roald Dahl stuff. There is a series called Magic Tree House that lil CF3 loves that he's read either with me or on his own like 45 of them. They are kinda dumb but kids love them. Super easy and a great intro to chapter books. I mean its a magic tree house that takes you to see dinosaurs or to the moon and junk.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:22:52 AM
Post by: CHONGS on June 28, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
Berenstain
oh
Post by: CHONGS on June 28, 2017, 10:36:46 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 10:38:32 AM
Interesting mass false memory around that.
Yeah I actually thought you were making a pun, like they're a stain on literature or something but that's actually how its spelled. Weird.
Post by: SdK on June 28, 2017, 10:39:46 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 28, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 11:39:54 AM
What about the miniature Indian books? I loved those as a kid.
Indian in the cupboard? Really fun. I've read that one and the 2nd one to lil CF3. However they are p racist.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2017, 11:49:38 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 11:54:04 AM
What grade is your oldest in?
going into 2nd
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 28, 2017, 12:57:29 PM
What about the miniature Indian books? I loved those as a kid.
Indian in the cupboard? Really fun. I've read that one and the 2nd one to lil CF3. However they are p racist.
Hmmm, do you try to pretend racism doesn't exist with lil CF3?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 28, 2017, 01:06:44 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 28, 2017, 02:18:31 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 02:28:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2017, 02:38:06 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 02:39:12 PM
Her-mine-e
I'm seeing like "Her-my-oh-knee" online. Can someone (a giant nerd) tell me which is correct?
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on June 29, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 03:07:14 PM
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 03:08:09 PM
huh MY ah nee
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 03:08:52 PM
harrr MY ar nee
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 03:10:33 PM
CF3 i forgot to ask, do you read in various british accents? if so it's
huh MY ah nee
No I can't do British accents well enough. Also whenever there is a song I sing it in the tune of Gilligan's Island or some other TV theme song. I developed this method while reading the hobbit and it works p well
Post by: chum1 on June 29, 2017, 06:29:58 PM
https://youtu.be/H5cEuwrRMdk
Post by: Kat Kid on June 29, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
Her-mine-e
I'm seeing like "Her-my-oh-knee" online. Can someone (a giant nerd) tell me which is correct?
Her-my-oh-knee is correct.
I started out mispronouncing it to my kid and got pwn3d talking to Harry Potter nerds irl and then had to convince my son that this was not a new character, but he got over it pretty quick.
Post by: Kat Kid on June 29, 2017, 06:32:56 PM
CF3 i forgot to ask, do you read in various british accents? if so it's
huh MY ah nee
No I can't do British accents well enough. Also whenever there is a song I sing it in the tune of Gilligan's Island or some other TV theme song. I developed this method while reading the hobbit and it works p well
I always do a crazy accent for Hagrid and it is pretty fun.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2017, 06:33:06 PM
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 06:34:39 PM
Definitely her-my-nee (her-mine-e)
You're missing a syllable and frankly it's embarrassing that you can't tell
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
Definitely her-my-nee (her-mine-e)
You're missing a syllable and frankly it's embarrassing that you can't tell
Neither can jk Rowling apparently
Post by: chum1 on June 29, 2017, 06:59:19 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 29, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
Post by: The Big Train on June 29, 2017, 08:02:36 PM
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
Definitely her-my-nee (her-mine-e)
You're missing a syllable and frankly it's embarrassing that you can't tell
Neither can jk Rowling apparently
Your ears don't work properly
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2017, 11:40:57 AM
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2017, 11:47:02 AM
This whole weird name thing is more than enough to make me never want to read Harry Potter books.
what are your thoughts on the Iliad & the Odyssey?
Post by: chum1 on June 30, 2017, 11:53:24 AM
This whole weird name thing is more than enough to make me never want to read Harry Potter books.
what are your thoughts on the Iliad & the Odyssey?
I'm not crazy about really old + really long either.
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2017, 11:57:59 AM
This whole weird name thing is more than enough to make me never want to read Harry Potter books.
what are your thoughts on the Iliad & the Odyssey?
I'm not crazy about really old + really long either.
i'm glad you're consistent. Hermione is the daughter of King Menelaus & Helen of Troy. what a family of weird names!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2017, 02:12:40 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 30, 2017, 02:14:08 PM
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2017, 02:15:28 PM
My only complaint about names so far in HP & TSS is that Hedwig/Hagrid are too similar and Mrs Norris is a really dumb name for a cat.
agreed on both points
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2017, 02:20:47 PM
And nerds, please don't be like "oh but when you find out why Mrs. Norris is named that in book 4 its sooooo awesome" because its still a dumb cat name. Cats should be named whiskers or boots or cat bosco etc.
I used to have a cat named Caesar. He was best buds with my dog, Bark Antony.
Post by: The Big Train on June 30, 2017, 03:23:14 PM
My only complaint about names so far in HP & TSS is that Hedwig/Hagrid are too similar and Mrs Norris is a really dumb name for a cat.
Don't get me started on LOTR with Sauron and Saruman. I don't think it was until I watched the movies that I got they were a different thing.
Post by: mocat on June 30, 2017, 03:33:51 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 30, 2017, 04:05:26 PM
the characters use the full names when talking to each other all of the time, except when they don't.
Post by: chum1 on June 30, 2017, 04:40:57 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 01, 2017, 10:24:31 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 18, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
Dawn by Octavia Butler
Chingon is really good at recommending books. I read the whole series and it was great.
@Chingon, I need a book/series recommendo for when I go on vacation in a couple of weeks. I read Dawn and that whole series last vaca and it was great.
Post by: 8manpick on July 18, 2017, 11:56:13 AM
Post by: SdK on July 18, 2017, 03:16:45 PM
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century? is a fantastic and necessary read. PM me if you would like me to send you a copy.I would like a copy.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2017, 10:04:04 AM
Dawn by Octavia Butler
Chingon is really good at recommending books. I read the whole series and it was great.
@Chingon, I need a book/series recommendo for when I go on vacation in a couple of weeks. I read Dawn and that whole series last vaca and it was great.
:impatient:
Post by: sys on July 27, 2017, 11:34:14 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
have you read butler's other stuff?
Yes, I've read all of her novels, even the one she tried to disown (Wild Seed).
The only book listed on her website that I haven't read is "Bloodchild and Other Stories" which is a collection of short stories; and it doesn't look like I can get that anywhere soon.
Post by: sys on July 27, 2017, 12:18:20 PM
Post by: pissclams on July 27, 2017, 12:38:41 PM
:lol:
carry on!
:lol:
what's next, you guys going to talk about the krebs cycle?
:lol:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2017, 01:06:12 PM
Post by: michigancat on July 27, 2017, 02:54:42 PM
Looks like I'll be reading the Midnight, Tx series by Charlaine Harris. It will probably be good, but not mind blowing. Oh well.
chings recommended this for my last vacation and it fit the bill (even if they aren't quite as page-turny as Dawn): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Trilogy
Also, I'm reading the Gospel According to Jesus Christ and enjoying it a lot. The conversations with God and other angels are LOL funny
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2017, 03:21:05 PM
Post by: CHONGS on July 27, 2017, 04:52:23 PM
I read the Gospel According to Jesus Christ and also Cain and Blindness by Jose Saramago. Blindness was the best one.In a while you should read Seeing.
Post by: CHONGS on July 27, 2017, 04:56:08 PM
Check out Aztec by Jennings.
Dawn by Octavia Butler
Chingon is really good at recommending books. I read the whole series and it was great.
@Chingon, I need a book/series recommendo for when I go on vacation in a couple of weeks. I read Dawn and that whole series last vaca and it was great.
:impatient:
Post by: Pete on August 08, 2017, 06:54:05 PM
I am reading Black Company now. A classic in the fantasy genre, can't believe I waited this long to read it. It's very different, reads like a journal entry. Very violent and profane...it's fun.
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Post by: Pete on August 15, 2017, 09:08:36 AM
I don't know why I keep up this vigil of posting about fantasy books, except that I keep hoping that Mr. Bread comes back and is proud of me. I miss him.
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2017, 09:11:36 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2017, 09:53:25 AM
The first "Black Company" company book, by Glen Cook, was a lot of fun. I am on to the second one now.
I don't know why I keep up this vigil of posting about fantasy books, except that I keep hoping that Mr. Bread comes back and is proud of me. I miss him.
Pete what's your fave fantasy series?
Post by: Pete on August 16, 2017, 08:11:47 PM
The first "Black Company" company book, by Glen Cook, was a lot of fun. I am on to the second one now.
I don't know why I keep up this vigil of posting about fantasy books, except that I keep hoping that Mr. Bread comes back and is proud of me. I miss him.
Pete what's your fave fantasy series?
My favorite is an unfinished series by Patrick Rothfuss, the first book is called The Name of the Wind. GRRM's Song of Fire and Ice (game of thrones) is great too of course.
I suppose a very close third would be Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and three stand alone novels that are in the same universe. They are pretty hard core. The Bloody Nine, a key figure in the books, is one of my favorite literary characters ever.
There are so many others that I really like tho.
Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2017, 11:42:45 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 08:03:56 AM
Post by: mocat on August 18, 2017, 08:14:57 AM
At this point I can't even remember what happened in A Dance with Dragons.
i think the last scene is when dany is wandering around in the grasslands and the dothraki find her and then drogon lands behind her
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 08:22:08 AM
Post by: mocat on August 18, 2017, 08:23:50 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 08:31:32 AM
It took me 3 years to read got and 1 year so far to 30% book 2 so I'll let you dudes know how book 5 ends in about 10 years
Sorry for the spoiler then.
Post by: chum1 on October 04, 2017, 08:20:01 PM
Post by: chum1 on October 27, 2017, 12:42:50 PM
I wasn't ready to tackle Infinite Jest, so I've been reading The Broom of the System. It's super quirky and pretty funny at times. It's a trip to read.
Just finished. Crazy entertaining. In a Pulp Fiction kind of way.
Post by: 8manpick on October 27, 2017, 01:01:29 PM
Post by: Cire on October 27, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
all his books are great if you are into serial murder and detective stuff.
Post by: Pete on November 22, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.
so the last one is not good. it's like he lost interest. very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.
You are a fast reader. I am only half through the "Cold Commands." This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered. like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way? i love backstory and revelations.
i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett. it seems pretty solid so far. your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.
Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.
i finished the first four books of the demon cycle series. they're pretty good. #recommendedtopete
Just finished the fifth and final book in the demon cycle series, which was just released. It was fun, like the others. Overall, a very satisfying series.
Post by: Pete on November 22, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2018, 03:32:30 PM
Also read a very good Sci-Fi book called “Leviathan Wakes,” which is the first book in a series called “The Expanse.” Scyfi Network made it into a series that got good reviews, but I haven’t seen the show. Anyway, this book was super cool and fun to read if you like space ships blasting the eff out of each other and dudes getting their heads blown off in zero g gun fights. Also lots of science around space travel and life support systems on other planets in our solar system. Loads of fun.
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2018, 03:34:20 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2018, 04:28:51 PM
Finished the third book in the Stormlight series, Oathbringer. Good but not great, keeps the plot moving.
Also read a very good Sci-Fi book called “Leviathan Wakes,” which is the first book in a series called “The Expanse.” Scyfi Network made it into a series that got good reviews, but I haven’t seen the show. Anyway, this book was super cool and fun to read if you like space ships blasting the eff out of each other and dudes getting their heads blown off in zero g gun fights. Also lots of science around space travel and life support systems on other planets in our solar system. Loads of fun.
I'm on book 6. So obviously I kinda like it. I will say there are some kinda lame moments across the series but man are there some great characters and cool space crap. I even like the politics and I think it's adorable that Mars is full of Asians with Texan accents.
Post by: chum1 on February 16, 2018, 04:53:46 PM
So, after that, I read "All the Pretty Horses." It was GREAT. I never knew a Western could be so intellectually stimulating and philosophically interesting. I want to read a bunch more Cormac McCarthy now.
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2018, 05:22:46 PM
Finished the third book in the Stormlight series, Oathbringer. Good but not great, keeps the plot moving.
Also read a very good Sci-Fi book called “Leviathan Wakes,” which is the first book in a series called “The Expanse.” Scyfi Network made it into a series that got good reviews, but I haven’t seen the show. Anyway, this book was super cool and fun to read if you like space ships blasting the eff out of each other and dudes getting their heads blown off in zero g gun fights. Also lots of science around space travel and life support systems on other planets in our solar system. Loads of fun.
I'm on book 6. So obviously I kinda like it. I will say there are some kinda lame moments across the series but man are there some great characters and cool space crap. I even like the politics and I think it's adorable that Mars is full of Asians with Texan accents.
Awesome, I immediately bought the second book upon finishing the first. I will be starting that tonight!
:Rusty:
Post by: 8manpick on February 16, 2018, 07:00:20 PM
I like sci-fi movies. So, I try to get into sci-fi books. But I just can't do it. Just recently failed with Ubik, which takes place in the future (1992) and everything is both futuristic and also coin operated.I loved Ubik! @Kat Kid sent it to me and i thought it was great. PKD is one of my top authors though
So, after that, I read "All the Pretty Horses." It was GREAT. I never knew a Western could be so intellectually stimulating and philosophically interesting. I want to read a bunch more Cormac McCarthy now.
Post by: 8manpick on February 16, 2018, 07:01:29 PM
Post by: mocat on February 16, 2018, 09:47:02 PM
I like sci-fi movies. So, I try to get into sci-fi books. But I just can't do it. Just recently failed with Ubik, which takes place in the future (1992) and everything is both futuristic and also coin operated.
So, after that, I read "All the Pretty Horses." It was GREAT. I never knew a Western could be so intellectually stimulating and philosophically interesting. I want to read a bunch more Cormac McCarthy now.
The Road is really great by CMac
Post by: Pete on February 20, 2018, 01:47:12 PM
Finished the third book in the Stormlight series, Oathbringer. Good but not great, keeps the plot moving.
Also read a very good Sci-Fi book called “Leviathan Wakes,” which is the first book in a series called “The Expanse.” Scyfi Network made it into a series that got good reviews, but I haven’t seen the show. Anyway, this book was super cool and fun to read if you like space ships blasting the eff out of each other and dudes getting their heads blown off in zero g gun fights. Also lots of science around space travel and life support systems on other planets in our solar system. Loads of fun.
I'm on book 6. So obviously I kinda like it. I will say there are some kinda lame moments across the series but man are there some great characters and cool space crap. I even like the politics and I think it's adorable that Mars is full of Asians with Texan accents.
Awesome, I immediately bought the second book upon finishing the first. I will be starting that tonight!
:Rusty:
I got about 10% through the second book and dropped it. I am moving on to “Old Man’s War.”
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Post by: mocat on February 28, 2018, 09:24:32 PM
Just finished Connecticut Yankee and now about to start Infinite Jest!
:cool:
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2018, 09:27:42 PM
about to start Infinite Jest!
:cool:
strap in for a few months!
Post by: sys on February 28, 2018, 09:28:02 PM
So, after that, I read "All the Pretty Horses." It was GREAT. I never knew a Western could be so intellectually stimulating and philosophically interesting. I want to read a bunch more Cormac McCarthy now.
amazing writer.
Post by: steve dave on February 28, 2018, 09:56:02 PM
I just started Perdido Street Station and it's pretty wild
All three are wild.
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Post by: 8manpick on February 28, 2018, 11:24:08 PM
Post by: Pete on March 01, 2018, 09:30:41 PM
So don’t read them I guess is what I’m saying
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I will take that advice. I had read the blurb about the second one and was a solid meh on it, so I didn’t get it. Glad to get this confirmation of meh.
Post by: Pete on March 01, 2018, 09:31:13 PM
The Revelation Space books by Alistair Reynolds are very good Pete. Don’t know if you’re into a lot of space stuff but I liked them a lot.
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I will look into this
Post by: CHONGS on March 02, 2018, 08:02:48 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 02, 2018, 12:28:53 PM
I just finished 4 3 2 1, and maybe it's because of where I am right now in life, but it was fantastic. Easily one of the best things I have ever read.
I will probably read anything chings recommends so this is on my list.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 04, 2018, 09:37:24 AM
Post by: chum1 on May 23, 2018, 12:19:36 PM
Just did American Pastoral by Roth, not as fun. Interesting dismantling of the American Dream though.
Roth just died. And I happen to be reading this. Halfway through and I think it's pretty great.
Post by: michigancat on May 23, 2018, 12:49:13 PM
Could not get through the third book of the Perdido Street Station series. I just quit a quarter of the way in.
Post by: chum1 on May 23, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
I really loved Play it as it Lays.
Wow. I thought it was just okay. I think her nonfiction is divine, though. Super enviable writing style.
Post by: michigancat on May 23, 2018, 01:09:39 PM
I really loved Play it as it Lays.
Wow. I thought it was just okay. I think her nonfiction is divine, though. Super enviable writing style.
I think part of it was honestly the short chapters. I didn't want to put it down.
Post by: steve dave on May 23, 2018, 01:11:37 PM
Finished the third book in the Stormlight series, Oathbringer. Good but not great, keeps the plot moving.
Also read a very good Sci-Fi book called “Leviathan Wakes,” which is the first book in a series called “The Expanse.” Scyfi Network made it into a series that got good reviews, but I haven’t seen the show. Anyway, this book was super cool and fun to read if you like space ships blasting the eff out of each other and dudes getting their heads blown off in zero g gun fights. Also lots of science around space travel and life support systems on other planets in our solar system. Loads of fun.
I'm on book 6. So obviously I kinda like it. I will say there are some kinda lame moments across the series but man are there some great characters and cool space crap. I even like the politics and I think it's adorable that Mars is full of Asians with Texan accents.
missed this originally. I lot interest during book 4. it was actually the politics that made me do huge eye rolls while reading and eventually quit. too much force feeding today's political issues into a far future. The first one was great, then good, then pretty good, then giant eye rolls started for me. hopefully I didn't quit too soon. just checked and notice there are now 8 of them, holy crap.
Post by: chum1 on May 24, 2018, 10:23:16 AM
I think her nonfiction is divine, though. Super enviable writing style.
After writing this, I borrowed South and West last night, which I'd never read before. And this is what I got right at the beginning. I mean, holy crap.
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In New Orleans in June the air is heavy with sex and death, not violent death but death by decay, overripeness, rotting, death by drowning, suffocation, fever of unknown etiology.
The place is physically dark, dark like the negative of a photograph, dark like an X-ray: the atmosphere absorbs its own light, never reflects light but sucks it in until random objects glow with a morbid luminescence. The crypts above ground dominate certain vistas. In the hypnotic liquidity of the atmosphere all motion slows into choreography, all people on the street move as if suspended in a precarious emulsion, and there seems only a technical distinction between the quick and the dead.
Post by: mocat on May 24, 2018, 03:41:29 PM
about to start Infinite Jest!
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strap in for a few months!
i am embarrassed to find out i started this book 3 months ago
Post by: chum1 on May 24, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
Post by: Pete on June 13, 2018, 06:44:27 PM
The Revelation Space books by Alistair Reynolds are very good Pete. Don’t know if you’re into a lot of space stuff but I liked them a lot.
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Just finished The first Revelation Space book. I really liked it!
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2018, 07:08:42 PM
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Post by: 8manpick on June 19, 2018, 04:44:56 PM
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Post by: ChiComCat on June 20, 2018, 08:00:19 AM
I really enjoyed Buttermilk Graffiti by Edward Lee
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I enjoyed smoke and pickles. Is this more memoir than cookbook?
He also had a great story about a benefit auction with Anthony Bourdain.
Post by: 8manpick on June 20, 2018, 09:17:32 AM
I really enjoyed Buttermilk Graffiti by Edward Lee
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I enjoyed smoke and pickles. Is this more memoir than cookbook?
He also had a great story about a benefit auction with Anthony Bourdain.
It's more food travel writing with a couple of recipes per chapter.
Fairly formulaic, and kind of Bourdain-esque, but well done:
1. Lee goes to place and eats ethnic/regional food, frequently one you might not expect (i.e: Nigerian in Houston, Peruvian in New Jersey)
2. Gets to know the restaurant owner/chef, learns culinary and cultural history for the area
3. Relates observations to own experiance.
Does something like this in 10-15 different places. Really interesting, and added a lot of restaurants I would like to visit to my list. He is a good writer, and is pretty insightful.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2018, 02:26:11 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2018, 02:35:05 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2018, 02:44:50 PM
Did you like it?
Yes, except that Gooch wanted to watch the movie right before I got the book so it ruined it a little - of course the book is much better than the movie and more detailed. There are a lot of things happening inside Winston's head that can't be translated into a movie very well.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2018, 02:46:11 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2018, 02:49:05 PM
I've never seen the movie, but read the book probably 5 times. It's my favorite :thumbs:
The idea of Newspeak was interesting to me.
Post by: Pete on August 21, 2018, 07:09:43 PM
The Revelation Space books by Alistair Reynolds are very good Pete. Don’t know if you’re into a lot of space stuff but I liked them a lot.
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Took a break to read the Assasin’s Apprentixe series by Robin Hobb, but back into this series now. Just started the third one, Redemption Ark. Second one, Chasm City, was fun, but I was like “why the eff are these Chasm City “Canopy” people willing to help him...why would they give a eff?” Still fun book tho.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2018, 07:56:29 PM
A Column of Fire (third in the Kingsbridge trilogy)
Night Over Water
Both very good.
Has anyone in here read A Brave New World?
Post by: ChiComCat on August 22, 2018, 07:30:30 AM
I am enjoying Michael Pollan's How to Change your Mind. All about LSD & magic mushroom research as well as him trying them.
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 22, 2018, 07:45:09 AM
He goes through the entire history or money and what eventually made the gold standard the best way of having sound money. When we got away from it during WWI and how even though we don’t use it anymore, all money is still tied to it. Countries hold amounts of US Dollars in their vaults the same way they used to hold gold, and the US Dollar was originally based on gold, so everything is still connected.
The way Bitcoin was created, hows you interact with it in the world, and having no boundaries are all great points. The book really does a good job of explaining money in general and more specifically why Bitcoin may be an even better money system than gold ever way. Very good read.
Post by: 8manpick on August 22, 2018, 07:58:55 AM
Has anyone here not?
Has anyone in here read A Brave New World?
Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2018, 09:29:36 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2018, 09:58:18 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 22, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
Started listening to ready player one yesterday. Balls hooked firmly
I have heard the most polarizing reviews of this book I can imagine. I'm probably staying away.
Post by: chum1 on August 22, 2018, 03:12:45 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 22, 2018, 03:22:01 PM
I just have to take a moment to say that I found it pretty humorous that TBT's debut in this thread involved a book about Bitcoin.
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My only complaint about names so far in HP & TSS is that Hedwig/Hagrid are too similar and Mrs Norris is a really dumb name for a cat.
Don't get me started on LOTR with Sauron and Saruman. I don't think it was until I watched the movies that I got they were a different thing.
Post by: chum1 on August 22, 2018, 03:23:11 PM
I just have to take a moment to say that I found it pretty humorous that TBT's debut in this thread involved a book about Bitcoin.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif)My only complaint about names so far in HP & TSS is that Hedwig/Hagrid are too similar and Mrs Norris is a really dumb name for a cat.
Don't get me started on LOTR with Sauron and Saruman. I don't think it was until I watched the movies that I got they were a different thing.
I knew it might be wrong, but it just sounded a lot funnier that way.
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 22, 2018, 03:24:20 PM
Post by: Pete on August 22, 2018, 09:08:38 PM
Started listening to ready player one yesterday. Balls hooked firmly
I have heard the most polarizing reviews of this book I can imagine. I'm probably staying away.
Old balls nerds (like me) love it.
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2018, 10:33:51 PM
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Post by: puniraptor on August 23, 2018, 01:35:39 AM
Am I too young to get all the 80s winks? (I'm 31)
not with your well-above-average social literacy
the only stuff you wont get is so arcane that hopefully no-one gets it and that kind of stuff is overexplained in the book anyway.
Post by: felix rex on August 23, 2018, 04:07:46 PM
Started listening to ready player one yesterday. Balls hooked firmly
I have heard the most polarizing reviews of this book I can imagine. I'm probably staying away.
Old balls nerds (like me) love it.
Yeah. I enjoyed listening to it.
Post by: felix rex on August 23, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
The first "Black Company" company book, by Glen Cook, was a lot of fun. I am on to the second one now.
I don't know why I keep up this vigil of posting about fantasy books, except that I keep hoping that Mr. Bread comes back and is proud of me. I miss him.
Pete what's your fave fantasy series?
My favorite is an unfinished series by Patrick Rothfuss, the first book is called The Name of the Wind. GRRM's Song of Fire and Ice (game of thrones) is great too of course.
I suppose a very close third would be Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and three stand alone novels that are in the same universe. They are pretty hard core. The Bloody Nine, a key figure in the books, is one of my favorite literary characters ever.
There are so many others that I really like tho.
Wow. Basically my list exactly. I’m a sucker for The Wheel of Time, too. That Rothfuss trilogy is the definitely the best thing going, though.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2018, 05:19:10 PM
Post by: 8manpick on August 23, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Am I too young to get all the 80s winks? (I'm 31)The winks are really heavy handed, the entire book is a vehicle for them. I got most of them and we are the same age-old. Your enjoyment of the book is going to depend on how much you enjoy surface level nostalgia references. It is an easy and quick read. 4/7
Post by: CHONGS on August 23, 2018, 07:00:57 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2018, 09:23:38 PM
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Post by: Pete on August 27, 2018, 08:16:08 PM
Is this Rothfuss fellow the type to not finish the last book in the series for like 20 years? He sounds good but I'm already waiting on GRRM.
Yep
Post by: Pete on August 27, 2018, 08:18:13 PM
The first "Black Company" company book, by Glen Cook, was a lot of fun. I am on to the second one now.
I don't know why I keep up this vigil of posting about fantasy books, except that I keep hoping that Mr. Bread comes back and is proud of me. I miss him.
Pete what's your fave fantasy series?
My favorite is an unfinished series by Patrick Rothfuss, the first book is called The Name of the Wind. GRRM's Song of Fire and Ice (game of thrones) is great too of course.
I suppose a very close third would be Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and three stand alone novels that are in the same universe. They are pretty hard core. The Bloody Nine, a key figure in the books, is one of my favorite literary characters ever.
There are so many others that I really like tho.
Wow. Basically my list exactly. I’m a sucker for The Wheel of Time, too. That Rothfuss trilogy is the definitely the best thing going, though.
I have read a eff load of fantasy and am embarrassed to say I have not read any of the Wheel of Time. If you like those other books I mentioned and also like Wheel of time, then I should definitely read it.
Post by: Pete on August 27, 2018, 08:19:12 PM
Him maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
Post by: CHONGS on August 27, 2018, 08:25:06 PM
This Kote fellow is hiding something....Him maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
Post by: Pete on August 27, 2018, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: felix rex on August 29, 2018, 01:26:52 AM
Him maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
It’s very, very good.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 31, 2018, 09:49:26 AM
I have read a eff load of fantasy and am embarrassed to say I have not read any of the Wheel of Time. If you like those other books I mentioned and also like Wheel of time, then I should definitely read it.
Facebook just reminded me that I finished "A Memory of Light" five years ago and this was my comment:
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The ending was worth reading the 14 books that it took to get there.So it seems like you should read it.
Post by: michigancat on August 31, 2018, 10:26:40 AM
The very best fantasyHim maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
It’s very, very good.
Post by: michigancat on August 31, 2018, 10:27:45 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 02:55:03 PM
I started reading a book and there were like six spy characters right off the bat and they each had their own undercover spy names and I was like, "Man, eff this crap."
Seriously, eff THIS
Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Alyosha, Alyoshka, Alyoshenka, Alyoshechka, Alxeichick, Lyosha, Lyoshenka)
Dmitri Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Mitka, Mitya, Mitenka, Mitri Fyodorovich)
Ivan Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Vanya, Vanka, Vanechka)
Agrafena Alexandrovna Svetlov - (Grushenka, Grusha, Grushka)
Katerina Ivanovna Verkhovtsev - (Katya, Katka, Katenka)
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2018, 03:11:10 PM
I started reading a book and there were like six spy characters right off the bat and they each had their own undercover spy names and I was like, "Man, eff this crap."
Seriously, eff THIS
Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Alyosha, Alyoshka, Alyoshenka, Alyoshechka, Alxeichick, Lyosha, Lyoshenka)
Dmitri Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Mitka, Mitya, Mitenka, Mitri Fyodorovich)
Ivan Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Vanya, Vanka, Vanechka)
Agrafena Alexandrovna Svetlov - (Grushenka, Grusha, Grushka)
Katerina Ivanovna Verkhovtsev - (Katya, Katka, Katenka)
lol the three body problem books were kinda similar because there were so many chinese names. but not that bad.
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2018, 03:12:05 PM
I suppose a very close third would be Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and three stand alone novels that are in the same universe. They are pretty hard core. The Bloody Nine, a key figure in the books, is one of my favorite literary characters ever.
started this and really like it!
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2018, 03:49:51 PM
I started reading a book and there were like six spy characters right off the bat and they each had their own undercover spy names and I was like, "Man, eff this crap."
Seriously, eff THIS
Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Alyosha, Alyoshka, Alyoshenka, Alyoshechka, Alxeichick, Lyosha, Lyoshenka)
Dmitri Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Mitka, Mitya, Mitenka, Mitri Fyodorovich)
Ivan Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Vanya, Vanka, Vanechka)
Agrafena Alexandrovna Svetlov - (Grushenka, Grusha, Grushka)
Katerina Ivanovna Verkhovtsev - (Katya, Katka, Katenka)
lol the three body problem books were kinda similar because there were so many chinese names. but not that bad.
I spent like 40% of the book not realizing that Agrafena was the same person as Grushenka.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 06, 2018, 03:50:00 PM
Anyone like Alan Furst novels? Just finished reading "A Hero of France" for the second time in 2 weeksI started reading a book and there were like six spy characters right off the bat and they each had their own undercover spy names and I was like, "Man, eff this crap."
Seriously, eff THIS
Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Alyosha, Alyoshka, Alyoshenka, Alyoshechka, Alxeichick, Lyosha, Lyoshenka)
Dmitri Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Mitka, Mitya, Mitenka, Mitri Fyodorovich)
Ivan Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Vanya, Vanka, Vanechka)
Agrafena Alexandrovna Svetlov - (Grushenka, Grusha, Grushka)
Katerina Ivanovna Verkhovtsev - (Katya, Katka, Katenka)
lol the three body problem books were kinda similar because there were so many chinese names. but not that bad.
Post by: DQ12 on September 06, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
Someone should edit Dostoyevsky's works so the characters have regular names like oscar and Doug.I started reading a book and there were like six spy characters right off the bat and they each had their own undercover spy names and I was like, "Man, eff this crap."
Seriously, eff THIS
Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Alyosha, Alyoshka, Alyoshenka, Alyoshechka, Alxeichick, Lyosha, Lyoshenka)
Dmitri Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Mitka, Mitya, Mitenka, Mitri Fyodorovich)
Ivan Fyodorovich Karamazov - (Vanya, Vanka, Vanechka)
Agrafena Alexandrovna Svetlov - (Grushenka, Grusha, Grushka)
Katerina Ivanovna Verkhovtsev - (Katya, Katka, Katenka)
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2018, 04:08:20 PM
Post by: DQ12 on September 14, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 14, 2018, 01:07:30 PM
I’m halfway through “The Bitcoin Standard” and it’s very good. I really liked how he author structures the book. The first third of the book maybe mentions Bitcoin a handful of times, saying it will be explained later.
He goes through the entire history or money and what eventually made the gold standard the best way of having sound money. When we got away from it during WWI and how even though we don’t use it anymore, all money is still tied to it. Countries hold amounts of US Dollars in their vaults the same way they used to hold gold, and the US Dollar was originally based on gold, so everything is still connected.
The way Bitcoin was created, hows you interact with it in the world, and having no boundaries are all great points. The book really does a good job of explaining money in general and more specifically why Bitcoin may be an even better money system than gold ever way. Very good read.
I finished this last weekend and can confirm that the whole book is very good and I recommend it for non-fiction fans.
Post by: Pete on September 20, 2018, 08:11:59 PM
I suppose a very close third would be Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and three stand alone novels that are in the same universe. They are pretty hard core. The Bloody Nine, a key figure in the books, is one of my favorite literary characters ever.
started this and really like it!
UPDATE RUSS?!?
Post by: steve dave on September 20, 2018, 08:13:37 PM
Getting into Crime and Punishment right now and the characters' names may as well be hieroglyphics.
these authors are all dead to me
Post by: michigancat on September 20, 2018, 08:52:18 PM
Just started book 2! Book 1 was slow in spots but it's good enough to continue
I suppose a very close third would be Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy and three stand alone novels that are in the same universe. They are pretty hard core. The Bloody Nine, a key figure in the books, is one of my favorite literary characters ever.
started this and really like it!
UPDATE RUSS?!?
Post by: michigancat on September 20, 2018, 08:54:07 PM
Post by: CHONGS on September 21, 2018, 10:07:05 AM
Is the second book better? I have to admit the first one (which I am about 95% through) didn't seem to go anywhere (I did get to read about feet slapping the cobblestones a lot and really wet red lips). Do the characters get anymore depth beyond being the best/prettiest/smartest at everything?The very best fantasyHim maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
It’s very, very good.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2018, 01:16:01 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
Is the second book better? I have to admit the first one (which I am about 95% through) didn't seem to go anywhere (I did get to read about feet slapping the cobblestones a lot and really wet red lips). Do the characters get anymore depth beyond being the best/prettiest/smartest at everything?The very best fantasyHim maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
It’s very, very good.
a good one line summary of the books so far is "didn't seem to go anywhere". I liked them though.
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2018, 02:02:46 PM
Yeah that's actually a pretty fair review. I don't remember much of a difference between the two.Is the second book better? I have to admit the first one (which I am about 95% through) didn't seem to go anywhere (I did get to read about feet slapping the cobblestones a lot and really wet red lips). Do the characters get anymore depth beyond being the best/prettiest/smartest at everything?The very best fantasyHim maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
It’s very, very good.
a good one line summary of the books so far is "didn't seem to go anywhere". I liked them though.
Post by: Pete on September 21, 2018, 03:54:00 PM
I have a few hours of driving this weekend, plz give good audible suggestions
Armada by Ernest Cline...read by Will Wheaton
Post by: Pete on September 21, 2018, 03:57:00 PM
Yeah that's actually a pretty fair review. I don't remember much of a difference between the two.Is the second book better? I have to admit the first one (which I am about 95% through) didn't seem to go anywhere (I did get to read about feet slapping the cobblestones a lot and really wet red lips). Do the characters get anymore depth beyond being the best/prettiest/smartest at everything?The very best fantasyHim maybe I'll give this rothfuss fellow a shot. Good fantasy is super hard to do.
It’s very, very good.
It’s very, very good.
a good one line summary of the books so far is "didn't seem to go anywhere". I liked them though.
He went lots of places, guys! Heck, he became a man right before our very eyes. And quite a magician as well, I might add. That thing that stops arrows, wow! And how about the Lute Hero heroics?!?!
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 04:09:07 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
I have a few hours of driving this weekend, plz give good audible suggestions
Armada by Ernest Cline...read by Will Wheaton
Was actually leaning towards this, love the wheat
Post by: Brock Landers on September 21, 2018, 04:51:41 PM
Post by: Pete on September 21, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Armada is a terrible, cliched, steaming turd of a book. It's a grade school level ripoff of the move The Last Starfighter. But if there's anything in the world that has a chance of making it better it's Wil Wheaton.
YOU ARE NO FUN!
Post by: Pete on September 21, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
iirc he got trapped by a fairy in fairyland or some crap and gave such good D she let him go.
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That tree mumped him good, tho. That has to be why we haven't gotten a third book. How do you recover from something like that?
Post by: 8manpick on September 21, 2018, 09:07:56 PM
Armada is a terrible, cliched, steaming turd of a book. It's a grade school level ripoff of the move The Last Starfighter. But if there's anything in the world that has a chance of making it better it's Wil Wheaton.I loved Last Starfighter as a kid... watched it again with my wife a few years ago... still great!
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 09:15:01 PM
Armada is a terrible, cliched, steaming turd of a book. It's a grade school level ripoff of the move The Last Starfighter. But if there's anything in the world that has a chance of making it better it's Wil Wheaton.
enders game is also a pile of crap last starfighter ripoff
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2018, 09:17:29 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 24, 2018, 09:36:18 AM
I have a few hours of driving this weekend, plz give good audible suggestions
Armada by Ernest Cline...read by Will Wheaton
Was actually leaning towards this, love the wheat
I'm about half way through and enjoy it.
Highlights: everytime the wheat exclaims "HOLY-rough ridin'-crap". The wheat doing a morgan freeman voice. The wheat doing a pee-wee herman voice
Post by: 8manpick on September 27, 2018, 07:41:13 AM
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Post by: 8manpick on September 27, 2018, 01:30:09 PM
My folks are friends with his folks, haven’t read the book tho. Not enough lasers or swords.It’s really literature-y.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2018, 01:00:59 PM
Post by: puniraptor on October 18, 2018, 06:20:14 AM
What a great Columbus day read :thumbs:
Post by: Pete on October 19, 2018, 06:28:11 PM
I'm reading some sci fi thing right now that's really good. don't remember the name or author. or even a word that would be easily google'able (left wing fucks) to be able to say what it is but I'll get off my kindle later and post tomorrow if I remember.
WHAT WAS IT?!?!
Post by: Pete on November 05, 2018, 06:50:03 PM
I'm reading some sci fi thing right now that's really good. don't remember the name or author. or even a word that would be easily google'able (left wing fucks) to be able to say what it is but I'll get off my kindle later and post tomorrow if I remember.
WHAT WAS IT?!?!
:impatient:
Post by: michigancat on November 05, 2018, 08:22:00 PM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J6Y98UE/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
also I finished the First Law. Eh, it was OK.
Post by: Pete on November 06, 2018, 10:32:42 AM
also I finished the First Law. Eh, it was OK.
The whole series? First book is the worst. Then, I enjoyed the follow up standalone novels the most.
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2018, 11:46:49 AM
:bball:All three. I thought the end of the second one was funny.
also I finished the First Law. Eh, it was OK.
The whole series? First book is the worst. Then, I enjoyed the follow up standalone novels the most.
Post by: chum1 on November 08, 2018, 05:29:53 PM
Features Silicon Valley startup stuff, greed, corruption, fraud, power struggles, and Elizabeth Holmes is like Trump crazy except that she's super smart.
Post by: chum1 on November 15, 2018, 12:45:30 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 15, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
Post by: Pete on November 15, 2018, 08:42:41 PM
I'm reading some sci fi thing right now that's really good. don't remember the name or author. or even a word that would be easily google'able (left wing fucks) to be able to say what it is but I'll get off my kindle later and post tomorrow if I remember.
WHAT WAS IT?!?!
:impatient:
I hunted SD down on this, and told me the book is Pandora's Star. I am about 25% through and it's a fun book.
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2018, 08:52:14 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 17, 2018, 02:03:30 PM
About a quarter of the way through Bad Blood, which is on the company Theranos. Totally hooked. Living up to the hype.
Features Silicon Valley startup stuff, greed, corruption, fraud, power struggles, and Elizabeth Holmes is like Trump crazy except that she's super smart.
Finished. Incredible.
Post by: Pete on November 17, 2018, 07:49:58 PM
About a quarter of the way through Bad Blood, which is on the company Theranos. Totally hooked. Living up to the hype.
Features Silicon Valley startup stuff, greed, corruption, fraud, power struggles, and Elizabeth Holmes is like Trump crazy except that she's super smart.
Finished. Incredible.
Like, legitimately entertaining, or "I'll say it was entertaining because it is a non-fiction book, but it isn't really a fun read."
Post by: chum1 on November 17, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
About a quarter of the way through Bad Blood, which is on the company Theranos. Totally hooked. Living up to the hype.
Features Silicon Valley startup stuff, greed, corruption, fraud, power struggles, and Elizabeth Holmes is like Trump crazy except that she's super smart.
Finished. Incredible.
Like, legitimately entertaining, or "I'll say it was entertaining because it is a non-fiction book, but it isn't really a fun read."
I'm predisposed to liking mumped up Silicon Valley startup stories. That said, I thought it was CRAZY entertaining. At the end of most chapters, I was like 'OMG WTF!' with my eyes wide open. I totally just wanted more and more.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 25, 2018, 04:45:04 PM
Zero K by Don Delillo if you like mumped up future-y things. :sdeek:
It was ok. Too much thinking and not enough stuff actually happening.
Post by: puniraptor on November 25, 2018, 05:01:36 PM
highly recommended winter read. just an astounding testament to suffering and despair plus just a lil freaky stuff
also great for fans of olde timey sailing stuff and age of exploration stuff
*have not watched show*
Post by: Kat Kid on November 25, 2018, 05:23:30 PM
About a quarter of the way through Bad Blood, which is on the company Theranos. Totally hooked. Living up to the hype.
Features Silicon Valley startup stuff, greed, corruption, fraud, power struggles, and Elizabeth Holmes is like Trump crazy except that she's super smart.
Finished. Incredible.
Like, legitimately entertaining, or "I'll say it was entertaining because it is a non-fiction book, but it isn't really a fun read."
I'm predisposed to liking mumped up Silicon Valley startup stories. That said, I thought it was CRAZY entertaining. At the end of most chapters, I was like 'OMG WTF!' with my eyes wide open. I totally just wanted more and more.
Ok, I am definitely buying it.
Post by: chum1 on November 25, 2018, 05:28:08 PM
Zero K by Don Delillo if you like mumped up future-y things. :sdeek:
It was ok. Too much thinking and not enough stuff actually happening.
The chapter that was nothing but Artis thinking was :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
Post by: star seed 7 on December 23, 2018, 02:10:24 PM
Post by: chum1 on December 23, 2018, 03:26:09 PM
Just finished listening to blood meridian, God damn Cormac Mccarthy is just absolutely masterful
Yes. One of my very favorite authors.
Post by: Pete on January 04, 2019, 07:42:25 PM
:thumbs:
I am halfway through the second book, and have really enjoyed these . However, this apparent apprehension to genociding the eff out of the aliens is annoying. I would have had zero problem removing those fuckers after the Lost 23.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2019, 07:47:13 PM
Just finished listening to blood meridian, God damn Cormac Mccarthy is just absolutely masterful
Yes. One of my very favorite authors.
I listened to child of God and the road also. Have read no country previously. They are all very engaging.
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2019, 07:59:42 PM
Just finished listening to blood meridian, God damn Cormac Mccarthy is just absolutely masterful
Yes. One of my very favorite authors.
I listened to child of God and the road also. Have read no country previously. They are all very engaging.
https://twitter.com/husbandsrevenge/status/1042573051219595269
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2019, 08:42:24 PM
Post by: ben ji on January 09, 2019, 12:09:54 PM
I enjoyed reading this book. First part details cattle drives into KS but most of the book is about large ranches in WY/MT/ND in the 1880's, WERE ALL GONNA GET RICH (They didn't).
Tons of interesting characters including Teddy Roosevelt.
Post by: chum1 on January 09, 2019, 12:13:30 PM
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I enjoyed reading this book. First part details cattle drives into KS but most of the book is about large ranches in WY/MT/ND in the 1880's, WERE ALL GONNA GET RICH (They didn't).
Tons of interesting characters including Teddy Roosevelt.
Interesting. Will read. Thanks!
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 12:21:54 PM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07CLFY5JH/ref=mas_dl
It's supposed to be like a "hillbilly elegy" but for Kansas. I kinda hated hillbilly elegy too so not sure what I was thinking
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 12:22:15 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2019, 12:49:41 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 09, 2019, 12:58:13 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 01:32:17 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2019, 06:32:40 PM
I mean she does talk a lot about Wichita and farming but she's pretty awful
why?
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 06:39:41 PM
I mean she does talk a lot about Wichita and farming but she's pretty awful
why?
I mean here's the last section I read before I quit
(https://i.imgur.com/YoaoF6c.png)
I feel like hate reading it now
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 06:42:35 PM
pretty sure SD said something about farmers loving the crap out of feeding cows on holidays recently
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 06:50:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TjS1W3Z.png)
all of this was before I quit on page 19
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YVuppkw.png?1)
Post by: chum1 on January 09, 2019, 07:12:57 PM
Post by: CHONGS on January 09, 2019, 07:24:46 PM
fuuuuuck I don't know how I made it past page 2Lawl
(https://i.imgur.com/YVuppkw.png?1)
That's pretty rough ridin' bad.
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2019, 09:33:52 PM
Post by: WonderMeal on January 09, 2019, 10:54:32 PM
I mean, it was a finalist for a National Book Award. It can't be THAT bad.
The parts of the book I enjoyed the most:
-Smarsh referring to Food 4 Less as "Food 4 Losers." Did not know that was a Kansas-wide thing.
-Smarsh calling Junction City "Junk Town." Also did not know that was a non-NE KS thing.
-Her comments on the strength of poor women and how society views them (way past page 19) were the best part of the book.
This concludes "Audiobook Thoughts with WonderMeal," brought to you by Butcher Box and Casper Mattresses.
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 11:08:41 PM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 11:09:43 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 09, 2019, 11:10:18 PM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
I didn't know anyone at KU who grew up on a farm, and I would have openly mocked them if I did.
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 11:11:33 PM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
I didn't know anyone at KU who grew up on a farm, and I would have openly mocked them if I did.
they were probably ashamed to let you know they did :lol:
Post by: Spracne on January 09, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 10, 2019, 06:35:01 AM
Post by: steve dave on January 10, 2019, 07:29:45 AM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
I didn't know anyone at KU who grew up on a farm, and I would have openly mocked them if I did.
they were probably ashamed to let you know they did :lol:
I know like 40 people from Meade, KS that went to KU. and being from Meade, KS roughly 100% of them were farmers.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2019, 08:11:06 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 10, 2019, 08:51:47 AM
I always assumed spracs is a farmie because he's from western Kansas
Oakley IIRC.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2019, 08:52:45 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 10, 2019, 08:53:19 AM
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2019, 09:16:11 AM
I always assumed spracs is a farmie because he's from western Kansas
his post didn't deny that he is a farmie
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2019, 09:17:30 AM
Post by: WonderMeal on January 10, 2019, 09:42:46 AM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
This book isn't about growing up on a farm. This book is about growing up in poverty, and more specifically what white rural poverty looks like. I don't know your story, but I doubt it mirrors hers closely besides the geographic aspect you mentioned.
She talks about not knowing what graduate school was until she got to college. She talks about the women in their family moving 50+ times throughout their lives, often to escape abuse. The whole point of the book (at least from page 20 on...) is that she had a different experience from the people around her because she grew up surrounded by poverty. This is not a story about someone whose parents are and continue to be the cattle kings of Meade County.
I thought the book was good--not great. My favorite thing of the author's that I've read is a longform piece called "Poor Teeth." Maybe give that a try, since it's less than 20 pages? BAZING
https://longform.org/posts/there-is-no-shame-worse-than-poor-teeth-in-a-rich-world
(https://longform.org/posts/there-is-no-shame-worse-than-poor-teeth-in-a-rich-world)
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2019, 11:24:29 AM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
This book isn't about growing up on a farm. This book is about growing up in poverty, and more specifically what white rural poverty looks like. I don't know your story, but I doubt it mirrors hers closely besides the geographic aspect you mentioned.
She talks about not knowing what graduate school was until she got to college. She talks about the women in their family moving 50+ times throughout their lives, often to escape abuse. The whole point of the book (at least from page 20 on...) is that she had a different experience from the people around her because she grew up surrounded by poverty. This is not a story about someone whose parents are and continue to be the cattle kings of Meade County.
I thought the book was good--not great. My favorite thing of the author's that I've read is a longform piece called "Poor Teeth." Maybe give that a try, since it's less than 20 pages? BAZING
https://longform.org/posts/there-is-no-shame-worse-than-poor-teeth-in-a-rich-world
(https://longform.org/posts/there-is-no-shame-worse-than-poor-teeth-in-a-rich-world)
Telling a story of generations of poor women is extremely important and a valid story to tell, but she absolutely tries to portray this hard-working farmer image in the first few pages (and on twitter) and the first few pages are filled with sloppy and condescending descriptions, anecdotes, and generalizations of farm and rural life that to me are inauthentic at best, embellished at worst, and make me distrust anything she says about anything. People are laughing at the sloppy text - you don't need to be the product of a teen pregnancy to recognize it as shitty writing.
The teeth piece is interesting...FWIW I definitely should have had braces as a kid and now need to get them as an adult, I think my mom thought boys didn't need good smiles or something. Her writing style in the piece is still pretty shitty and condescending.
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2019, 01:31:49 PM
https://twitter.com/Sarah_Smarsh/status/1081667295913611264
january 4 she retweeted everyone suggesting she run for senate since Pat Roberts retired
https://twitter.com/Sarah_Smarsh/status/1081391116325285889
https://twitter.com/Sarah_Smarsh/status/1079090240537673729
https://twitter.com/Sarah_Smarsh/status/1075806646499246081
(DOUBLE UGH AT THAT ONE^^^^)
https://twitter.com/Sarah_Smarsh/status/1070375332224602112
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2019, 01:35:23 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 10, 2019, 01:45:55 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 18, 2019, 10:06:30 AM
(https://images.penguinrandomhouse.com/cover/9781101904190)
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2019, 10:10:34 AM
about to start Infinite Jest!
:cool:
strap in for a few months!
i am embarrassed to find out i started this book 3 months ago
i took about 6 months off and recently picked it back up again seamlessly. still about a million pages left.
Post by: chum1 on January 18, 2019, 10:15:10 AM
about to start Infinite Jest!
:cool:
strap in for a few months!
i am embarrassed to find out i started this book 3 months ago
i took about 6 months off and recently picked it back up again seamlessly. still about a million pages left.
You're ahead of me, but I think I'm on roughly the same schedule.
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2019, 10:17:58 AM
mocat: :dunno:
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 05:58:26 PM
https://twitter.com/bechillcomedian/status/906104599806963713?s=21
Post by: star seed 7 on February 21, 2019, 06:17:40 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2019, 06:38:47 PM
Reminds me of kRusty and got*show only
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2019, 06:40:07 PM
:D
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2019, 06:48:31 PM
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2019, 06:57:14 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 07:37:14 PM
Post by: 8manpick on February 21, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2019, 08:12:57 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 24, 2019, 09:41:16 PM
Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Nivens was really good. Can’t believe I never read that before. Comet striking the earth. The only thing I didn’t really like is that the story focused more on the post-apocalypse than the pre, and I find pre more interesting. Still really good, though.
Now I’m about halfway through Seveneves by Neil Stevenson. This book is super long, poorly written, almost spectacularly pretentious m, and generally annoying but I’m still slogging through it. It’s so bad at this point that I’m morbidly curious how much worse it can get. The moon spontaneously explodes and the earth is doomed. Except for All The Very Smartest People In The World. Follows a celebrity scientist, who is essentially Neil deGrasse Tyson, who totally figures out exactly what’s gonna happen, along with All The Other Scientists of The World. Who easily concoct a plant to same humanity aboard the ISS. And most importantly - it’s a Super Diverse and Totally #MeToo Humanity. Basically Brooklyn. Instead of good science fiction, it’s basically one cloying liberal trope after another, intermixed with various hookups between various Smart People about the ISS. The earth is almost completely ignored, except for the parts about how all The Wise Leaders perfectly govern their subjects up until the very end.
People are comparing this to The Martian. JFC people - The Martian was 100x better than this piece of crap.
Post by: steve dave on February 25, 2019, 07:07:03 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 25, 2019, 11:43:23 AM
There are so many reasons to hate Seveneves, but I guess here’s my top 3: First, it is so gobsmackingly pretentious. The author genuinely seems to believe that if this catastrophe were to occur, all the nations would have a big kumbaya moment and launch all their best and brightest into space while the rest of us generally mill about like docile cows, happy that our best and brightest were chosen and peacefully resigned to our fate. Most of the folks chosen to survive are utterly callous about leaving behind spouses and loved ones - to the point that some even disregard the last tearful goodbyes of their doomed family members because they’re just too busy doing smart important stuff up in space.
Second, the stuff on Earth is almost completely ignored. I’m waaaay more interested in how the doomed people on the ground would handle their last days than the eggheads up in space. Then again, given how the author seems to view the earthlings I guess it wouldn’t have been that interesting.
Third, the science stuff is often too dense and interupts the narrative. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m skimming several pages at a time discussing orbital mechanics because I just don’t care.
I’m looking for novels on the pre-apocalypse - how people and society respond to impending doom. On The Beach is a good example, but I’ve already read that. You don’t get that much from Lucifer’s Hammer because most of the folks there pretty much assume the comet will miss up until the end. You get just a little with The Stand. World War Z was great, even with the zombie premise, although I wish he’d cut the vingettes in half and wove the remainder into a narrative.
Other suggestions?
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2019, 11:47:44 AM
Post by: CNS on February 26, 2019, 02:52:59 PM
I enjoyed the Three Body Problem series
Did it get better after the first half of the first book? I stopped reading it. The characters were pretty roughly written and the way the VR part was winding up was boring. It was one of those that I didn't actively decide to stop reading, but I just put it down and didn't have an urge to pick it back up.
Post by: CNS on February 26, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
I’ve turning back to one my favorite genres: apocalypse / post-apocalypse.
Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Nivens was really good. Can’t believe I never read that before. Comet striking the earth. The only thing I didn’t really like is that the story focused more on the post-apocalypse than the pre, and I find pre more interesting. Still really good, though.
Now I’m about halfway through Seveneves by Neil Stevenson. This book is super long, poorly written, almost spectacularly pretentious m, and generally annoying but I’m still slogging through it. It’s so bad at this point that I’m morbidly curious how much worse it can get. The moon spontaneously explodes and the earth is doomed. Except for All The Very Smartest People In The World. Follows a celebrity scientist, who is essentially Neil deGrasse Tyson, who totally figures out exactly what’s gonna happen, along with All The Other Scientists of The World. Who easily concoct a plant to same humanity aboard the ISS. And most importantly - it’s a Super Diverse and Totally #MeToo Humanity. Basically Brooklyn. Instead of good science fiction, it’s basically one cloying liberal trope after another, intermixed with various hookups between various Smart People about the ISS. The earth is almost completely ignored, except for the parts about how all The Wise Leaders perfectly govern their subjects up until the very end.
People are comparing this to The Martian. JFC people - The Martian was 100x better than this piece of crap.
You may not like it, but Anathem was enjoyable and was kinda what you are asking about, although kinda not. It isn't our world, though. Also, it is written by the Seveneves guy, so if you disliked Seveneves, you may not like it.
Full disclosure: I liked Seveneves.
Post by: ben ji on February 26, 2019, 04:38:34 PM
I thought Martian was enjoyable. Fast paced, and the science was generally explained in manner that easy to understand and didn’t ruin the flow of the narrative. Andy Weir’s followup book - Artemis - wasn’t nearly as good.
There are so many reasons to hate Seveneves, but I guess here’s my top 3: First, it is so gobsmackingly pretentious. The author genuinely seems to believe that if this catastrophe were to occur, all the nations would have a big kumbaya moment and launch all their best and brightest into space while the rest of us generally mill about like docile cows, happy that our best and brightest were chosen and peacefully resigned to our fate. Most of the folks chosen to survive are utterly callous about leaving behind spouses and loved ones - to the point that some even disregard the last tearful goodbyes of their doomed family members because they’re just too busy doing smart important stuff up in space.
Second, the stuff on Earth is almost completely ignored. I’m waaaay more interested in how the doomed people on the ground would handle their last days than the eggheads up in space. Then again, given how the author seems to view the earthlings I guess it wouldn’t have been that interesting.
Third, the science stuff is often too dense and interupts the narrative. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m skimming several pages at a time discussing orbital mechanics because I just don’t care.
I’m looking for novels on the pre-apocalypse - how people and society respond to impending doom. On The Beach is a good example, but I’ve already read that. You don’t get that much from Lucifer’s Hammer because most of the folks there pretty much assume the comet will miss up until the end. You get just a little with The Stand. World War Z was great, even with the zombie premise, although I wish he’d cut the vingettes in half and wove the remainder into a narrative.
Other suggestions?
I'm a huge sucker for end of the world/post apocalypse books. Off the top of my head some of my favorites are
2 old classics
Alas Babylon
Earth Abides
Some newer one-
Patriot Novels (Super right wing but if you ignore the bible verses and politics its good, very technical)
One Second After / One Year After
World Made By Hand (Series of 4)
New Madrid Run
Breakers (There are like 10, kind of goofy with Aliens but quick reads)
Picking up Out of the Ashes from the Library today.
Post by: CHONGS on February 26, 2019, 06:35:04 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 26, 2019, 06:35:54 PM
I really enjoyed The Rook.
Yeah, fun read
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Post by: CHONGS on February 26, 2019, 06:36:49 PM
They're making a show out of it. I don't have high hopes for it tho.I really enjoyed The Rook.
Yeah, fun read
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Post by: michigancat on February 26, 2019, 06:40:50 PM
I enjoyed the Three Body Problem series
Did it get better after the first half of the first book? I stopped reading it. The characters were pretty roughly written and the way the VR part was winding up was boring. It was one of those that I didn't actively decide to stop reading, but I just put it down and didn't have an urge to pick it back up.
yes it got way better. Agree the VR part is kinda slow and boring. I thought the third book was one of the more mind-blowing reading experiences.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2019, 08:53:37 PM
I thought Martian was enjoyable. Fast paced, and the science was generally explained in manner that easy to understand and didn’t ruin the flow of the narrative. Andy Weir’s followup book - Artemis - wasn’t nearly as good.
There are so many reasons to hate Seveneves, but I guess here’s my top 3: First, it is so gobsmackingly pretentious. The author genuinely seems to believe that if this catastrophe were to occur, all the nations would have a big kumbaya moment and launch all their best and brightest into space while the rest of us generally mill about like docile cows, happy that our best and brightest were chosen and peacefully resigned to our fate. Most of the folks chosen to survive are utterly callous about leaving behind spouses and loved ones - to the point that some even disregard the last tearful goodbyes of their doomed family members because they’re just too busy doing smart important stuff up in space.
Second, the stuff on Earth is almost completely ignored. I’m waaaay more interested in how the doomed people on the ground would handle their last days than the eggheads up in space. Then again, given how the author seems to view the earthlings I guess it wouldn’t have been that interesting.
Third, the science stuff is often too dense and interupts the narrative. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m skimming several pages at a time discussing orbital mechanics because I just don’t care.
I’m looking for novels on the pre-apocalypse - how people and society respond to impending doom. On The Beach is a good example, but I’ve already read that. You don’t get that much from Lucifer’s Hammer because most of the folks there pretty much assume the comet will miss up until the end. You get just a little with The Stand. World War Z was great, even with the zombie premise, although I wish he’d cut the vingettes in half and wove the remainder into a narrative.
Other suggestions?
I'm a huge sucker for end of the world/post apocalypse books. Off the top of my head some of my favorites are
2 old classics
Alas Babylon
Earth Abides
Some newer one-
Patriot Novels (Super right wing but if you ignore the bible verses and politics its good, very technical)
One Second After / One Year After
World Made By Hand (Series of 4)
New Madrid Run
Breakers (There are like 10, kind of goofy with Aliens but quick reads)
Picking up Out of the Ashes from the Library today.
Thanks for these. I’ll start picking them up. I’m nearly certain I’ve read Alas Babylon (great title) but it was long ago.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2019, 01:48:49 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 01, 2019, 04:08:44 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2019, 09:45:11 PM
Rosewater: cool alien invasion crap set in Nigeria. I'll read the second book in the series but the third isn't out yet
A Walk in the Woods: This was for my company's book club. they bought it for us so whatever. Didn't know Bill Bryson before but seriously eff that guy
Bad Blood: I think chum1 recommended this and holy crap what a read. Only about 1/3 through but it's great.
Post by: chum1 on April 15, 2019, 09:58:06 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2019, 10:22:21 PM
I actually liked A Walk in the Woods. I like that commune with nature crap, though. I'm not looking to read anything else by that author.I didn't care for how he described/looked down on.... literally everyone he encountered.
It coincided nicely with my vision quest trip and she if the hiking and nature descriptions were ok, but man, what an ass
Post by: 8manpick on April 16, 2019, 06:31:28 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 16, 2019, 07:27:12 AM
I actually liked A Walk in the Woods. I like that commune with nature crap, though. I'm not looking to read anything else by that author.I didn't care for how he described/looked down on.... literally everyone he encountered.
It coincided nicely with my vision quest trip and she if the hiking and nature descriptions were ok, but man, what an ass
I read it as lighthearted humor from a fussy New Englander, with no actual contempt intended. A couple parts were legit funny. He did have remorse over ditching (which I don't think is a big deal) the super annoying woman. I could be totally wrong about him, though.
I agree that the nature descriptions were mediocre. I like thinking about the logistics and gear and overall concept of communing with nature for an extended period. Much of what I enjoyed about it I also enjoyed about Wild, which is probably an unusual point of view. I would not (and did not) recommend.
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
I actually liked A Walk in the Woods. I like that commune with nature crap, though. I'm not looking to read anything else by that author.I didn't care for how he described/looked down on.... literally everyone he encountered.
It coincided nicely with my vision quest trip and she if the hiking and nature descriptions were ok, but man, what an ass
I read it as lighthearted humor from a fussy New Englander, with no actual contempt intended. A couple parts were legit funny. He did have remorse over ditching (which I don't think is a big deal) the super annoying woman. I could be totally wrong about him, though.
yeah as a humble kansan I tend to get bothered by people who look down on other people, and I felt he "punched down" a lot even if it was somewhat lighthearted. Maybe I just hate all New Englanders.
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Post by: ben ji on May 29, 2019, 08:41:08 AM
I'm about a quarter of the way into The Age of Miracles by Karen Thompson Walker. Great book. A pre-apocalypse told through the eyes of a 6th grade girl. The disaster (disclosed at the very beginning) is that the earth's rotation starts to slow down. Days and nights become longer and that's just the start. Fascinating stuff. I think this has already been optioned as a movie or TV miniseries.
Read this book too based on your recommendation and really liked it!
Post by: chum1 on May 29, 2019, 08:43:23 AM
Started reading this last night and cranked through 150 pages. If you like cold war spy stories this is right up your alley.
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I read that earlier this year. I rated it 5/5.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2019, 08:24:31 AM
Also little Alex is a much worse person in the book :sdeek:
Post by: chum1 on June 10, 2019, 10:17:01 AM
This example is a little different because the movie is a loose adaptation, but Apocalypse Now is pretty rough ridin' incredible and Heart of Darkness is pretty rough ridin' shitty.
Post by: mocat on June 10, 2019, 10:24:42 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2019, 11:51:29 AM
I'm fascinated when the movie is better than the book. Because it's incredibly rare and also because, typically, the movies are much worse than the books.
This example is a little different because the movie is a loose adaptation, but Apocalypse Now is pretty rough ridin' incredible and Heart of Darkness is pretty rough ridin' shitty.
Unpopular opinion but I almost never find the book to be better. I like the depth books provide but my imagination is broken or something because movies are always way cooler than whatever my minds eye had going on.
Post by: chum1 on June 10, 2019, 12:21:00 PM
I'm fascinated when the movie is better than the book. Because it's incredibly rare and also because, typically, the movies are much worse than the books.
This example is a little different because the movie is a loose adaptation, but Apocalypse Now is pretty rough ridin' incredible and Heart of Darkness is pretty rough ridin' shitty.
Unpopular opinion but I almost never find the book to be better. I like the depth books provide but my imagination is broken or something because movies are always way cooler than whatever my minds eye had going on.
My interest in fiction is in gaining a better understanding of people, fellow humans, the human condition, myself. Having an accompanying picture, regardless of its source, is rarely even necessary for that.
Post by: 8manpick on June 10, 2019, 12:54:30 PM
- Serious Eater: A Food Lover's Perilous Quest for Pizza and Redemption by Ed Levine
- The MVP Machine: How Baseball's New Nonconformists Are Using Data to Build Better Players by Ben Lindbergh
- Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World by David Epstein
Post by: chum1 on July 01, 2019, 08:12:25 AM
Post by: 8manpick on August 12, 2019, 07:32:15 AM
Great stories
Post by: 8manpick on August 12, 2019, 07:33:38 AM
I've bought a few books recently and look forward to reading them. Will try to review later.MVP Machine was great and is a must read for a baseball fan interested in the current state of the game.
- Serious Eater: A Food Lover's Perilous Quest for Pizza and Redemption by Ed Levine
- The MVP Machine: How Baseball's New Nonconformists Are Using Data to Build Better Players by Ben Lindbergh
- Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World by David Epstein
Halfway through Range and it is good.
Haven't started Serious Eater yet
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2019, 08:47:20 AM
The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August and The 7-1/2 Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle. The first one I read on my own and the other was for the company book club. :nerd:
The Harry August one is much better and easier to follow. Both are creative plots even if they seem like groundhog day knockoffs on the surface.
Also reading "The New Jim Crow". Just a good ol' fashioned gut punch that every American should read, much like "Evicted" that I recommended a while back. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0067NCQVU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Post by: Kat Kid on August 23, 2019, 05:58:12 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 23, 2019, 10:56:20 PM
Chuck Klosterman's new book of short stories, Raised in Captivity, is awesome and I can't recommend it enough. I listened to the audiobook, which was read by him and a bunch of other people, including H Jon Benjamin, Vincent Kartheiser, and Al Michaels.
Great stories
I’m halfway through the book. I’m not sure what I think. I think the audio version with different narrators would be better.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 05, 2019, 06:01:42 PM
I listened to the audiobook of Heartland and overall thought it was pretty good. I definitely think it's A) better than cRusty is saying and B) better in the audiobook format. I also think it's assumed that this book is for all people from Kansas, but it's a pretty safe assumption that the people LOLing at these excerpts aren't who the book is about.
I grew up one town over from her at the exact same time and my parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are all farmers. so, it's like pretty close to being about me or at least about the community I grew up in. No one I knew rough ridin' talks like that or thought "flyover country" meant it was dangerous or was unaware of class. They did get a kick out of feeding cows on christmas though. Also LOL at thinking she stood out at rough ridin' KU because she grew up on a farm :lol:
She's at the plaza tonight for a book tour!
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Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2019, 08:52:33 PM
Post by: nicname on September 07, 2019, 03:51:51 AM
This should be interesting, like the show "Ancient Aliens" but in a book.
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I read most of a similar book called "1491" v interesting imo.
Also, that dude Graham Hancock was on the Joe Rogan podcast talking about "America Before." was p great.
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Post by: chum1 on October 03, 2019, 10:00:11 AM
I'm fascinated when the movie is better than the book. Because it's incredibly rare and also because, typically, the movies are much worse than the books.
This example is a little different because the movie is a loose adaptation, but Apocalypse Now is pretty rough ridin' incredible and Heart of Darkness is pretty rough ridin' shitty.
Less Than Zero
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2019, 10:31:19 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 03, 2019, 10:38:12 AM
I enjoyed it.
Post by: Cire on October 03, 2019, 01:07:13 PM
Grant Pretty normal bio
Post by: Pete on October 04, 2019, 10:09:24 AM
I just finished another fantastic fantasy. Joe Abercrombie's new book, "A Little Hatred." It picks up where his original series left off. If you liked The Blade Itself and that series, then you'll love this book. I loved it.
Post by: michigancat on October 04, 2019, 10:26:02 AM
Post by: Cire on October 06, 2019, 06:42:59 PM
Dark matter
Sci fi multiple universes physicists etc
Fast read wish it got more into the nuts and bolts of the theories on alternate realities etc.
Not bad
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Post by: mocat on October 16, 2019, 06:17:53 AM
Post by: michigancat on October 16, 2019, 09:04:21 AM
Also I just finished "A Little Life". Holy hell
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 10, 2020, 09:59:15 PM
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Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2020, 10:59:13 PM
Also read the last of the Neapolitan Novels. Lila Cerullo is one of the best literary characters of all time.
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 10, 2020, 11:03:10 PM
I just finished Ed Snowden's book. Quick, troubling non-fiction and I learned a lot about what he did, how he did it, and what he discovered.
Also read the last of the Neapolitan Novels. Lila Cerullo is one of the best literary characters of all time.
I know this is the wrong thread but have you watched Citizenfour? It's a very good documentary.
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2020, 11:04:27 PM
I should watch it. He mentioned it in the book. Also I'm glad his girlfriend moved to MoscowI just finished Ed Snowden's book. Quick, troubling non-fiction and I learned a lot about what he did, how he did it, and what he discovered.
Also read the last of the Neapolitan Novels. Lila Cerullo is one of the best literary characters of all time.
I know this is the wrong thread but have you watched Citizenfour? It's a very good documentary.
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Post by: Pete on April 21, 2020, 12:27:02 PM
SD has given me some solid sci-fi recommends over the past couple years since mr bread left, but the rest of you are essentially worthless to me in this thread. :dubious:
Post by: CHONGS on April 21, 2020, 12:32:40 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2020, 01:13:22 PM
The Partner, John Grisham
Hunting for a dude who stole insane amount of money and disappeared (my hero!) :excited:
Jericho's Fall, Stephen L. Carter
the spellbinding story of a young woman running for her life from shadowy government forces :horrorsurprise:
The only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
Post by: Lamesauce on April 21, 2020, 02:06:51 PM
Any of you rough ridin' wonks read anything actually fun and entertaining lately? You know, books that you actually really love reading, and not because you couldn't wait to tell someone you read it so that you could look smart. :jerk:
SD has given me some solid sci-fi recommends over the past couple years since mr bread left, but the rest of you are essentially worthless to me in this thread. :dubious:
Last book: The Unincorporated Man by Dani and Eytan Kollin. Was a good entertaining read. Will probably finish the next books in that series.
Just started Daemon by Daniel Suarez. Good so far.
Next series will probably be the Black Ocean series by JS Morin
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2020, 02:11:11 PM
The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August was a pretty fun interesting one. A closely related one was The 7½ Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle. The Sympathizer seems like a "seem smart" book but it's kinda funny and lighthearted.
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2020, 03:45:58 PM
Peter F. Hamilton - Commonwealth books, Void books (kind of same as Commonwealth), and his new Salvation books are all great.
Alastair Reynolds - Revenger books. 1 and 2 are out. 3 is coming. He has other good stuff.
Ted Chiang - Short stories. Has two sets iirc. Both spotty but the good ones are very good.
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2020, 05:01:49 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2020, 09:03:44 PM
The chapter I'm on now is about a dude who participated in some mumped up psychology study and then enlisted and works on a cargo plane in the Vietnam War. I was starting to wonder where in the hell the trees were. Then:
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They manage to jettison all the cargo. One of the pallets explodes on the way out of the plane. crap detonates as it falls through the air. Then Pavlicek, too, is floating down to earth like a winged seed.
MILES BELOW and three centuries earlier, a pollen-coated wasp crawled down the hole at the tip of a certain green fig and laid eggs all over the involute garden of flowers hidden inside.
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 21, 2020, 09:18:20 PM
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Post by: Pete on June 01, 2020, 04:42:44 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 18, 2020, 02:22:05 PM
Since I saw this title in the movie thread, I remembered that I'd wanted to read it. (I'd previously read The Black Dahlia and thought it was surprisingly good.) It's been a long time since I've seen the movie. And I'm not trying to rate them against each other. But, holy crap, the book is like 100 times more deep and complicated. The writing is pretty strong. Has some artistic merit. Probably a must read if you're into crime novels.
Post by: steve dave on June 18, 2020, 05:21:54 PM
I've always meant to read them, but I've seen all the movies so I feel like it would be kinda anticlimactic.
lil sd and I are on #4. We read one chapter a night at bedtime. Neither of us had seen any of the movies so when we finish one book we then watch that corresponding movie.
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on July 15, 2020, 01:30:31 PM
This came in the mail today.Hard back box set is so hot. I was gifted the paper backs 1-6 in the 2nd grade and went with my sister to the midnight release of deathly hallows book that summer.
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Post by: Pete on July 16, 2020, 06:29:22 PM
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/866136.The_Dreaming_Void
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This came in the mail today.Hard back box set is so hot. I was gifted the paper backs 1-6 in the 2nd grade and went with my sister to the midnight release of deathly hallows book that summer.
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Post by: Pete on July 16, 2020, 07:07:55 PM
They are good Pete
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I've loved all of his other books.
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Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2020, 10:14:17 AM
Post by: nicname on October 13, 2020, 10:53:41 AM
white fragility got dragged quite a bit on twitter when everyone was buying books on racism but I never looked into why.
It is very extreme, almost dogmatic. Kind of like the author figured everything out and now it’s time to follow orders.
Post by: Pete on October 13, 2020, 09:01:35 PM
white fragility got dragged quite a bit on twitter when everyone was buying books on racism but I never looked into why.
It is very extreme, almost dogmatic. Kind of like the author figured everything out and now it’s time to follow orders.
I read it. I ran the full circle of emotions in response to it while I read. I landed at "if anything she says bothers me, then something is wrong with me." So, I accept that I don't have to agree with everything, I just have to do better to do my part to be more aware and respectful of others, and to not take offense when I am offered coaching on that.
Having said that, I think her very, very, very frequent assignment of the words "racist" and "white supremacist" to things that are on the opposite side of the spectrum from people like the Arian Brotherhood are going to reduce the probability of her message truly getting to those who need it most. You call most mild mannered white dudes a racist white supremacist, and most of them are going to shut down and not give your message a chance. It's silly to think you can use the same label for members of the Arian Brotherhood and someone who unwittingly engages in a perceived micro-aggression, IMO.
Post by: Cire on October 14, 2020, 01:50:04 PM
Also, started reading A Brief History of Time and it's pretty interesting and easier that expected.
Post by: Pete on October 14, 2020, 02:00:37 PM
There's a ton of average white dudes that hold racist views and don't accept it. That is a problem.
Oh I completely agree. I'm just saying that racism is a spectrum and one end of that spectrum results in a LOT more harm than the other end. The author agrees that it's a spectrum, but insists that we immediately start using labels that apply to both ends of the spectrum and do not allow for clarity about which end of the spectrum you are referring to.
I contend that the labels for violent extremists and the labels for mildly intolerant people shouldn't be the same. I'm OK with putting a label on it, but let's acknowledge the spectrum. crap, use t-shirt sizes if you want. "That guy is an XL racist, and that other guy is a M racist."
I sort of "get" why the author is doing this...she wants to drive recognition of what racist behavior really is, and make people take ownership of their racist behavior. That's a good thing, and I don't want to be overly critical of her very noble goals. Let's just make sure that we don't confuse Arian Brotherhood members with average Catbackers.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 14, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
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Post by: nicname on October 14, 2020, 09:13:39 PM
i've been trying to grind through the classic War and Peace on audible. I could never read something like this. It is still a grind. the war parts are pretty dope, but the peace parts are snooze central station. 40 ish hours to go, prayers requested.
Just started the exact same thing, but I just can’t pay enough attention to the Old British narrator’s voice. It’s too soothing and I doze off. Will prob have to try actually reading it.
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2020, 09:35:58 AM
Post by: Pete on October 15, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
I forgot to tell everyone I read the Gucci Mane autobiography, just like oscar! It was enjoyable. Recommend having Youtube handy so you can listen to his lyrical references and see the old videos as you read!
I admit that I had to google who that was.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 15, 2020, 11:34:30 AM
Wowzer. How many hours total is that audiobook?i've been trying to grind through the classic War and Peace on audible. I could never read something like this. It is still a grind. the war parts are pretty dope, but the peace parts are snooze central station. 40 ish hours to go, prayers requested.
Just started the exact same thing, but I just can’t pay enough attention to the Old British narrator’s voice. It’s too soothing and I doze off. Will prob have to try actually reading it.
I started reading Les Miserables about 16 months ago. I've got just 40 pages (out of 1200) left. Victor Hugo goes into some insanely long digressions about culture and politics that do nothing to move the plot of the book forward. I guess you are allowed to do that when you write one of the greatest novels of all time. The translation (by Julie Rose) is amazing.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2020, 01:12:29 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 15, 2020, 01:23:21 PM
30 hours for volume 1That's amazing.
It's hard for me to stay focused on audiobooks. It sounds appealing because you can do it while multitasking, but I really can't. I'd rather just read.I enjoy them while I'm driving but I can't focus on them if I'm working in the office.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 15, 2020, 01:49:41 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 15, 2020, 01:52:02 PM
30 hours for volume 1
Wow. Storm of swords is like 47 hours total, took me over a year to get through it.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 15, 2020, 02:19:43 PM
Yeah, they are great if you're driving. I made it through like 5 Cormac Mccarthy books driving to California and back.The No Country For Old Men audiobook was scarier than the movie.
Sounds like plans to turn Blood Meridian into a movie have stalled.
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Post by: Brock Landers on December 04, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
I also downloaded Ready Player Two today and hope to start on it this weekend.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 04, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
Post by: chum1 on December 04, 2020, 05:36:55 PM
Finished American Kingpin a while back and it was my favorite read this year. About the dood that started and ran The Silk Road website where you could by anything. Pretty amazing story on both ends. Goes in depth on him and why he started and ran it, but also the different agencies that worked to catch him. Really enjoyed it. :cheers:
Yes, it's good!
Post by: ben ji on December 04, 2020, 06:59:38 PM
The Dog Stars - kinda appropriate for this year, it's a post-apocalyptic story where a global pandemic has wiped out like 99% of the population. There is a very thin "love story" that adds little value but otherwise it's a good read. I like this genre.
I also downloaded Ready Player Two today and hope to start on it this weekend.
Read that a couple of years ago and yes, very good. Just read "A boy and his dog at the end of the world" and its a similar book but set in the UK. By similar I mean there is a global pandemic that wipes out 99% of the population and it involves a person and their dog. Its a little more YA'ish but worth the read.
Post by: CHONGS on December 04, 2020, 07:30:53 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 05, 2020, 12:38:17 PM
Also, after you read that you can read Living with a Seal. A rich dude paid Goggins to live with him for a month. He had to do everything he said for the month. It’s def more LOL than the above and is a quicker read. You can actually read this first but I think it makes it better knowing Goggins more after reading his book first.
Post by: Brock Landers on December 28, 2020, 09:15:27 AM
The Dog Stars - kinda appropriate for this year, it's a post-apocalyptic story where a global pandemic has wiped out like 99% of the population. There is a very thin "love story" that adds little value but otherwise it's a good read. I like this genre.
I also downloaded Ready Player Two today and hope to start on it this weekend.
Ready Player Two sucks. Don't waste your time and money on it.
Post by: steve dave on December 28, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Under The Volcano had the best portayal of alcoholism that I've ever read. Not for anyone looking for something light-hearted.
one of kk's sister in laws called me an alcoholic over text message this weekend and I'm not even sure it's one that I've met before so I guess I better read this.
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Post by: 8manpick on December 28, 2020, 10:19:52 AM
I can only imagine what KKs sister-in-law who I haven’t met thinks of meUnder The Volcano had the best portayal of alcoholism that I've ever read. Not for anyone looking for something light-hearted.
one of kk's sister in laws called me an alcoholic over text message this weekend and I'm not even sure it's one that I've met before so I guess I better read this.
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Post by: Pete on January 14, 2021, 08:19:12 PM
I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
I have quite a few recommendations. The Demon Cycle series by Peter Brett, The First Law Series by Peter Abercrombie and the stand alone novels that are related to that series, Raven's shadow series by Anthony Ryan, and Gentlemen Bastards (Lies of Locke Lamora) series by Scott Lynch are all GREAT fantasy series. SD recommended a sci fi book to me called Pandora's Star, and that was great. I went on and read the rest of the books in that universe and they were good too. They Hyperion series is another really great sci fi series.
Post by: steve dave on January 14, 2021, 08:25:04 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2021, 08:34:15 PM
I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
The Murderbot Diaries series. There are 4 novellas and a novel and they are all so much fun.
Post by: puniraptor on January 14, 2021, 09:26:18 PM
I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
I have quite a few recommendations. The Demon Cycle series by Peter Brett, The First Law Series by Peter Abercrombie and the stand alone novels that are related to that series, Raven's shadow series by Anthony Ryan, and Gentlemen Bastards (Lies of Locke Lamora) series by Scott Lynch are all GREAT fantasy series. SD recommended a sci fi book to me called Pandora's Star, and that was great. I went on and read the rest of the books in that universe and they were good too. They Hyperion series is another really great sci fi series.
yes hyperion cantos is the best best
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2021, 09:30:49 PM
I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.I've heard that the Vorkogsian Saga is pretty good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorkosigan_Saga
I read the first one and liked it.
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Post by: Pete on January 16, 2021, 11:04:03 AM
Thanks gE, buds! That should keep me busy until those final books are released.
You can also go back in this thread and read mr bread's recommendations. I read all of those and they were great as well.
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2021, 01:20:34 PM
I gave the first of these to my dad for Christmas based on this thread and he really liked it. Thanks!I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
The Murderbot Diaries series. There are 4 novellas and a novel and they are all so much fun.
Post by: ben ji on January 16, 2021, 05:11:08 PM
I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
I read the first 3 red rising books a couple of years ago but didnt know there were more, will have to check them out.
If you liked red rising I would check out the "Wool" series, very similar and pretty good.
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Post by: CHONGS on January 16, 2021, 07:39:32 PM
Can confirm. His Sand stuff is good too.I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
I read the first 3 red rising books a couple of years ago but didnt know there were more, will have to check them out.
If you liked red rising I would check out the "Wool" series, very similar and pretty good.
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Post by: CHONGS on January 29, 2021, 03:02:11 PM
It's nice to read a book that is short, but still really good. She's a great writer, I got into her stuff from her short stories.
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Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2021, 07:42:45 PM
The only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
I had this on my library ebook list and just read it and I thought it sucked. The description of the salinas valley at the start was amazing and sucked me in and then I just kept waiting to care about anything that happened and nothing seemed to matter.
Oh well
Post by: chum1 on February 15, 2021, 08:12:02 PM
The only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
I had this on my library ebook list and just read it and I thought it sucked. The description of the salinas valley at the start was amazing and sucked me in and then I just kept waiting to care about anything that happened and nothing seemed to matter.
Oh well
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure I cared about anything that happened in it either. And nothing seeming to matter is definitely a Steinbeck theme that I love.
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2021, 08:21:16 PM
And I think I could have handled it if it felt like the intro the whole timeThe only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
I had this on my library ebook list and just read it and I thought it sucked. The description of the salinas valley at the start was amazing and sucked me in and then I just kept waiting to care about anything that happened and nothing seemed to matter.
Oh well
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure I cared about anything that happened in it either. And nothing seeming to matter is definitely a Steinbeck theme that I love.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 15, 2021, 08:44:58 PM
I am absolutely convinced Poppy Bush was a CIA agent.
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Post by: Spracne on February 15, 2021, 08:49:03 PM
I made a Faulkner reference on this very blog today, and nothing...The only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
I had this on my library ebook list and just read it and I thought it sucked. The description of the salinas valley at the start was amazing and sucked me in and then I just kept waiting to care about anything that happened and nothing seemed to matter.
Oh well
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure I cared about anything that happened in it either. And nothing seeming to matter is definitely a Steinbeck theme that I love.
Post by: chum1 on February 15, 2021, 09:02:15 PM
I made a Faulkner reference on this very blog today, and nothing...The only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
I had this on my library ebook list and just read it and I thought it sucked. The description of the salinas valley at the start was amazing and sucked me in and then I just kept waiting to care about anything that happened and nothing seemed to matter.
Oh well
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure I cared about anything that happened in it either. And nothing seeming to matter is definitely a Steinbeck theme that I love.
I've not read that short story. I'll check it out.
Post by: Spracne on February 15, 2021, 09:12:24 PM
It's a real barn burner. I find his overarching theme (the inescapable ghosts of Southern sins) to be depressing, myself, but it is enduring and important to this day. Cheers.I made a Faulkner reference on this very blog today, and nothing...The only snobby book I read lately that I really loved is East of Eden. An all time favorite.
I had this on my library ebook list and just read it and I thought it sucked. The description of the salinas valley at the start was amazing and sucked me in and then I just kept waiting to care about anything that happened and nothing seemed to matter.
Oh well
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure I cared about anything that happened in it either. And nothing seeming to matter is definitely a Steinbeck theme that I love.
I've not read that short story. I'll check it out.
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2021, 09:12:54 PM
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Post by: Cire on February 15, 2021, 09:29:08 PM
Pulitzer wine and it is fantastic
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 16, 2021, 08:42:05 AM
Also, if you have a young kid I highly recommend Way of the Warrior Kid by Jocko Willink. Read it with my kid and we really liked it.
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Post by: 8manpick on February 16, 2021, 09:43:30 AM
Almost finished with Pappyland by Wright Thompson. Not a bourbon drinker but I like Thompson. Its a pretty cool story and more about people and "life" in general. I've really enjoyed it.I don’t remember if I posted about it ITT, but I loved this book. Read it over Thanksgiving, gave it to both my dad and brother for Christmas
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 17, 2021, 08:04:20 AM
Frederick Douglass biography is outstanding if you like works about incredible people doing incredible thingsWhich biography?
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I'm almost finished with Truman by David McCullough. Pretty fascinating life (for a person from Missouri).
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2021, 09:06:31 AM
not sure which one cire is talking about but prophet of freedom is a good oneFrederick Douglass biography is outstanding if you like works about incredible people doing incredible thingsWhich biography?
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I'm almost finished with Truman by David McCullough. Pretty fascinating life (for a person from Missouri).
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 17, 2021, 09:20:45 AM
Okay. Thanks. Looks like it won a Pulitzer Prize so it should be pretty good. I will have to put in on my list.not sure which one cire is talking about but prophet of freedom is a good oneFrederick Douglass biography is outstanding if you like works about incredible people doing incredible thingsWhich biography?
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I'm almost finished with Truman by David McCullough. Pretty fascinating life (for a person from Missouri).
I was in the Dusty Bookshelf last week and they have this giant edition of The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin illustrated with huge photos of the civil rights movement. I read No Name in the Street last year. Baldwin is a genius, embarrassed to admit that I knew nothing about him until last year.
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2021, 10:45:27 AM
Okay. Thanks. Looks like it won a Pulitzer Prize so it should be pretty good. I will have to put in on my list.not sure which one cire is talking about but prophet of freedom is a good oneFrederick Douglass biography is outstanding if you like works about incredible people doing incredible thingsWhich biography?
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I'm almost finished with Truman by David McCullough. Pretty fascinating life (for a person from Missouri).
I was in the Dusty Bookshelf last week and they have this giant edition of The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin illustrated with huge photos of the civil rights movement. I read No Name in the Street last year. Baldwin is a genius, embarrassed to admit that I knew nothing about him until last year.
the joco library has 3 audio versions of prophet of freedom if you're into that kind of thing, obvs they have the print version too
i was watching the pbs special on reconstruction recently and decided i needed to know more about freddy d, so your question was timely
Post by: Cire on February 17, 2021, 01:39:21 PM
Yes, that’s the one. I’ve been doing the audio.Okay. Thanks. Looks like it won a Pulitzer Prize so it should be pretty good. I will have to put in on my list.not sure which one cire is talking about but prophet of freedom is a good oneFrederick Douglass biography is outstanding if you like works about incredible people doing incredible thingsWhich biography?
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I'm almost finished with Truman by David McCullough. Pretty fascinating life (for a person from Missouri).
I was in the Dusty Bookshelf last week and they have this giant edition of The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin illustrated with huge photos of the civil rights movement. I read No Name in the Street last year. Baldwin is a genius, embarrassed to admit that I knew nothing about him until last year.
the joco library has 3 audio versions of prophet of freedom if you're into that kind of thing, obvs they have the print version too
i was watching the pbs special on reconstruction recently and decided i needed to know more about freddy d, so your question was timely
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Post by: Cire on February 17, 2021, 01:42:53 PM
All the stuff about he wove Shakespeare and the Bible into his speeches is really cool too.
And he was a radical among radicals. Nearly went to Harper’s ferry with John brown
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Post by: Brock Landers on February 25, 2021, 04:07:00 PM
A delightful romp about how Big Data and algorithms screw people and reinforce stereotypes and inequalities in many facets of life. There's probably nothing ground breaking or even surprising in there but it was still kinda infuriating to read an entire book about it.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 25, 2021, 08:25:27 AM
Just got started on Prophet of Freedom as well as The Great Mortality - about the 14th century Plague in Europe.
Do other posters read more than one book at a time? I usually have a nonfiction on the nightstand that I read while I help the kids get ready for bed as well as two or three other books in other parts of the house.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 25, 2021, 08:34:00 AM
I’m going to mainly focus on the “read while I help the kids get ready for bed” part. To which I will ask: how the eff?They are all big enough that they can brush their own teeth, get in and out of the shower by themselves, put on their PJs. I just need to be present to make sure that no monsters are in the upstairs, that the smallest one got all the shampoo rinsed out of her hair and break up fights that arise about who gets to go in the bathroom first and who is using too much hot water, stuff like that. Usually gives me a good 30 - 45 minutes of time to read.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 25, 2021, 08:49:43 AM
Makes sense. Sounds incredibly luxurious.I don't want to gloat or anything but bedtime is a lot easier than it was five years ago.
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Post by: Pete on March 25, 2021, 04:24:30 PM
Makes sense. Sounds incredibly luxurious.I don't want to gloat or anything but bedtime is a lot easier than it was five years ago.
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I have a similar fiction approach as SD...I keep it on the night stand and read it every night before bed. On the reading multiple books, no way Jose. One at a time for me.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2021, 04:35:51 PM
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2021, 04:49:58 PM
I like to read two books when I go on vacation and can read for multiple hours a day. Good to change up the vibes every now and then
I am very jealous of this.
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2021, 05:03:58 PM
The opposite tends to be true with fiction, which seems much more enjoyable the old fashioned way.
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Post by: Pete on March 25, 2021, 05:06:56 PM
Yeah, I read non fiction audio books. I call them podcasts. Lmao, owned.
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OK, I change my vote. I read non fiction audio books too.
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Post by: ben ji on March 30, 2021, 10:48:19 PM
Starting reading this collection of short stories and dig it (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210326/4becbef4fe5cfbc1e97fa50f301a20f2.jpg)So this was pretty gritty, aka someone dies in every story/sexual assaults/alcoholism but I enjoyed it.
Started reading Barkskins by the same author and have knocked out 200 pages in a couple days.
"Barkskins is a 2016 novel by American writer Annie Proulx. It tells the story of two immigrants to New France, René Sel and Charles Duquet, and of their descendants.[1] It spans over 300 years and witnesses the deforestation of the New World from the arrival of Europeans into the contemporary era of global warming.[2][3]"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 31, 2021, 08:22:29 AM
Post by: Cire on March 31, 2021, 08:38:37 AM
I've heard No Country is great but I've seen the movie a billion times and just have no desire to read it.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 31, 2021, 08:43:41 AM
I read blood meridian, pretty good, kind of got bored with it 3/4 of the way.I've the Cohen brothers joke that the hardest part of writing the screenplay for No Country was holding the book open. Movie follows the book very closely. The audiobook for No Country was almost as suspenseful as the movie, imho.
I've heard No Country is great but I've seen the movie a billion times and just have no desire to read it.
Post by: Cire on March 31, 2021, 08:46:47 AM
Newt Gingrich wrote a book about Gettysburg and framed it as the South Won the battle.
:horrorsurprise:
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 31, 2021, 08:53:15 AM
How arrogant and dumb does someone need to be to attempt a novel about Gettysburg? Like you have something valuable to add to the literature around this event??? I mean you already have Killer Angels and then the actual narrative of the battle that Shelby Foote wrote (Stars in Their Courses) is more gripping and incredible than some dumb novel by Newt Gingrich.Newt Gingrich wrote a book about Gettysburg and framed it as the South Won the battle.
:horrorsurprise:
Post by: star seed 7 on March 31, 2021, 08:58:34 AM
Also no country (not part of the train) reads like a screenplay. There is one additional scene not in the movie but everything else is exactly the same.
Post by: chum1 on March 31, 2021, 09:11:32 AM
Have we discussed Cormac McCarthy's novels ITT? I think The Crossing is still my favorite with Blood Meridian andNo Country for Old Men close behind.
I loved ATPH and decided to read the rest of the trilogy. Each book is good on its own, but I was surprised and amazed at how great they are together. I finished, thought about the themes running throughout, and was like, "holy crap that is incredible."
Part I of the crossing is one of my all time favorite books/parts of a book.
The earlier stuff is so damn bleak. Good. But damn bleak.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 31, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
I also appreciated how the elements of The Border Trilogy tied together. It has been a long time since I've read Cities of the Plain.Have we discussed Cormac McCarthy's novels ITT? I think The Crossing is still my favorite with Blood Meridian andNo Country for Old Men close behind.
I loved ATPH and decided to read the rest of the trilogy. Each book is good on its own, but I was surprised and amazed at how great they are together. I finished, thought about the themes running throughout, and was like, "holy crap that is incredible."
Part I of the crossing is one of my all time favorite books/parts of a book.
The earlier stuff is so damn bleak. Good. But damn bleak.
Agree about the early stuff being more relentlessly bleak. I could not get into Sutree or The Orchard Keeper
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Post by: Cire on March 31, 2021, 12:03:34 PM
Blood Meridian was hard for me to stay interested in because there wasn't really an overarching plot to speak of. It was entertaining, but it was almost more like reading a series of short stories set in the same universe.
felt the same. got bored 3/4 of the way through.
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Post by: Pete on March 31, 2021, 12:21:53 PM
How arrogant and dumb does someone need to be to attempt a novel about Gettysburg? Like you have something valuable to add to the literature around this event??? I mean you already have Killer Angels and then the actual narrative of the battle that Shelby Foote wrote (Stars in Their Courses) is more gripping and incredible than some dumb novel by Newt Gingrich.Newt Gingrich wrote a book about Gettysburg and framed it as the South Won the battle.
:horrorsurprise:
Not to mention that every southern soldier or collaborator is guilty of mass murder, treason, and countless human rights violations during the course of their attempt to violently overthrow the government of the United States of America, and should have rightfully been hung.
I'll read nothing of the sort, thank you very much.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 01, 2021, 07:34:30 AM
Don't you think hanging every ex-Confederate soldier would have been a bit harsh? What if the executions were limited to only to officers at the battalion or regimental level and higher. It would be interesting to see what effect that might have had on the counter-revolution that undid the reforms of the Reconstruction era.How arrogant and dumb does someone need to be to attempt a novel about Gettysburg? Like you have something valuable to add to the literature around this event??? I mean you already have Killer Angels and then the actual narrative of the battle that Shelby Foote wrote (Stars in Their Courses) is more gripping and incredible than some dumb novel by Newt Gingrich.Newt Gingrich wrote a book about Gettysburg and framed it as the South Won the battle.
:horrorsurprise:
Not to mention that every southern soldier or collaborator is guilty of mass murder, treason, and countless human rights violations during the course of their attempt to violently overthrow the government of the United States of America, and should have rightfully been hung.
I'll read nothing of the sort, thank you very much.
Post by: Cire on April 01, 2021, 08:04:24 AM
TJ Stiles James book is centered around this theme mostly in Missouri but you can expand it into the south.
The South lost the battle but won the war in a weird way.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 01, 2021, 08:12:43 AM
Reconstruction failed because they just quit in 1876 ish, there should have been a total and complete "deNAZIfication" of the South and it's leaders, like the Nuremburg trials.I'm interested to learn more about this as I read Prophet of Freedom. I've read a fair amount about the Civil War but really nothing about the reconstruction era.
TJ Stiles James book is centered around this theme mostly in Missouri but you can expand it into the south.
The South lost the battle but won the war in a weird way.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2021, 08:36:33 AM
if you guys haven't read them you should read Winds Of War/War And Remembrance by Herman Wouk. I think I've mentioned that on here before. Both incredibly good. I read them when I was 18 and then when I was like 24 and then when I was like 30. And they are a LOT of pages. And NO pictures. So you know they ruled.Just looked those up on wikipedia. Sounds pretty compelling. I may add them to my list.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2021, 09:23:02 AM
For the Fantasy nerds, I am about 85% through the latest Brandon Sanderson "Stormlight" book "Rhythm of War." It's massive, of course. Unlike all of the other books in the series, this one has a been a real chore for me to get through. Maybe this thing wraps up in some mind blowing way, but I'd say this is easily the worst book of an otherwise wonderful series, and probably the worst Brandon Sanderson book I've read. It's just kinda boring. :frown:Pete, do you read a lot of fantasy novels? What would recommend as an entry point for a person who thinks that they don't like fantasy novels?
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Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2021, 09:32:29 AM
I don't read a lot so I would suggest Name of the Wind.For the Fantasy nerds, I am about 85% through the latest Brandon Sanderson "Stormlight" book "Rhythm of War." It's massive, of course. Unlike all of the other books in the series, this one has a been a real chore for me to get through. Maybe this thing wraps up in some mind blowing way, but I'd say this is easily the worst book of an otherwise wonderful series, and probably the worst Brandon Sanderson book I've read. It's just kinda boring. :frown:Pete, do you read a lot of fantasy novels? What would recommend as an entry point for a person who thinks that they don't like fantasy novels?
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Post by: ben ji on April 02, 2021, 09:42:57 AM
if you guys haven't read them you should read Winds Of War/War And Remembrance by Herman Wouk. I think I've mentioned that on here before. Both incredibly good. I read them when I was 18 and then when I was like 24 and then when I was like 30. And they are a LOT of pages. And NO pictures. So you know they ruled.
:surprised:
Wouk decided to break it into two when he realized it took nearly 1000 pages just to get to the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Will give it a shot though
Post by: Spracne on April 02, 2021, 09:45:45 AM
For the Fantasy nerds, I am about 85% through the latest Brandon Sanderson "Stormlight" book "Rhythm of War." It's massive, of course. Unlike all of the other books in the series, this one has a been a real chore for me to get through. Maybe this thing wraps up in some mind blowing way, but I'd say this is easily the worst book of an otherwise wonderful series, and probably the worst Brandon Sanderson book I've read. It's just kinda boring. :frown:Pete, do you read a lot of fantasy novels? What would recommend as an entry point for a person who thinks that they don't like fantasy novels?
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This is easy: Game of Thrones (I realize that's not what they're called).
Post by: Pete on April 02, 2021, 09:56:53 AM
For the Fantasy nerds, I am about 85% through the latest Brandon Sanderson "Stormlight" book "Rhythm of War." It's massive, of course. Unlike all of the other books in the series, this one has a been a real chore for me to get through. Maybe this thing wraps up in some mind blowing way, but I'd say this is easily the worst book of an otherwise wonderful series, and probably the worst Brandon Sanderson book I've read. It's just kinda boring. :frown:Pete, do you read a lot of fantasy novels? What would recommend as an entry point for a person who thinks that they don't like fantasy novels?
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I read vast, vast quantities of Fantasy. I agree with Rusty and Spracne, both...The Name of the Wind and Game of Thrones are both great, and both series that are not finished, unfortunately, but the books and series are great. Fantasy is a pretty wide genre. I tend to like the really violent graphic stuff, and not the Tolken Lord of the Rings stuff as much. I'd start with Peter Brett's book in the Demon Cycle series called The Warded Man. That's a really great series, and super fun. Below is a pretty good list as well.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/88
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2021, 10:31:13 AM
Thanks, my 10 year old just finished reading The Hobbit and whatever the first LOTR book is and I don't really know anything about them other that watching the movies when they first came out. I guess Harry Potter is in this genre, too. Older kids have read / listened to all of them multiple times.For the Fantasy nerds, I am about 85% through the latest Brandon Sanderson "Stormlight" book "Rhythm of War." It's massive, of course. Unlike all of the other books in the series, this one has a been a real chore for me to get through. Maybe this thing wraps up in some mind blowing way, but I'd say this is easily the worst book of an otherwise wonderful series, and probably the worst Brandon Sanderson book I've read. It's just kinda boring. :frown:Pete, do you read a lot of fantasy novels? What would recommend as an entry point for a person who thinks that they don't like fantasy novels?
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I read vast, vast quantities of Fantasy. I agree with Rusty and Spracne, both...The Name of the Wind and Game of Thrones are both great, and both series that are not finished, unfortunately, but the books and series are great. Fantasy is a pretty wide genre. I tend to like the really violent graphic stuff, and not the Tolken Lord of the Rings stuff as much. I'd start with Peter Brett's book in the Demon Cycle series called The Warded Man. That's a really great series, and super fun. Below is a pretty good list as well.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/88
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Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2021, 01:43:13 PM
Post by: Cire on April 02, 2021, 06:54:49 PM
Here’s the author laying out essentially the thesis of his bookReconstruction failed because they just quit in 1876 ish, there should have been a total and complete "deNAZIfication" of the South and it's leaders, like the Nuremburg trials.I'm interested to learn more about this as I read Prophet of Freedom. I've read a fair amount about the Civil War but really nothing about the reconstruction era.
TJ Stiles James book is centered around this theme mostly in Missouri but you can expand it into the south.
The South lost the battle but won the war in a weird way.
https://twitter.com/tjstiles_author/status/1378131483479531524?s=21
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Post by: Pete on April 02, 2021, 07:02:33 PM
@Pete what do you think about the Broken Earth series? I've almost finished Fifth Season and it's pretty good so far.
I haven't read them. I just looked them up and they look kinda depressing. :dunno:
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2021, 06:29:43 PM
Post by: Pete on June 17, 2021, 09:25:29 PM
Just finished Station Eleven. I look forward to the the HBO series.
Are you a fan of the post apocalyptic genre?
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2021, 09:28:07 PM
Just finished Station Eleven. I look forward to the the HBO series.
Are you a fan of the post apocalyptic genre?
Yes, I do seem to be drawn to it. There is something compelling and even beautiful about the twilight of humanity.
Post by: Pete on June 17, 2021, 10:42:39 PM
Just finished Station Eleven. I look forward to the the HBO series.
Are you a fan of the post apocalyptic genre?
Yes, I do seem to be drawn to it. There is something compelling and even beautiful about the twilight of humanity.
I am growing more and more a fan. I used to be freaked out about it, but now I sort of welcome it (as an idea).
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2021, 02:27:06 PM
Fleishman Is in Trouble is a really incredible novel about marriage, divorce, and getting older these days. Top 10 out of the last 100 books I've read.
I just have different taste than chum1. I did not like this book! Everything was so far over the top and at the end I didn't care what happened to anyone (not unlike East of Eden)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2021, 02:45:31 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on June 20, 2021, 04:00:02 PM
I don't dabble much in non-fiction but I've been listening to the rise and fall of the third reich by William L. Shirer and it's totally engrossing. I'm only up to like 1932 and there is still 40 hours left!One of the best books of all time.
Post by: Cire on June 20, 2021, 08:05:56 PM
First is Hitler: ascent and hitler: downfall
I consider myself pretty knowledgeable and I learned a lot
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JoePa!lmao
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Post by: ben ji on June 24, 2021, 09:46:23 AM
Just finished Station Eleven. I look forward to the the HBO series.
Station 11 kind of reminded me of the world made by hand series. Another good post apoc series to check out
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Post by: CHONGS on June 24, 2021, 10:06:31 PM
I'll definitely check it out.Just finished Station Eleven. I look forward to the the HBO series.
Station 11 kind of reminded me of the world made by hand series. Another good post apoc series to check out
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Post by: CHONGS on June 24, 2021, 10:08:00 PM
I, Claudius
then if you liked that
Claudius the God
Post by: ben ji on June 25, 2021, 01:39:25 PM
I don't dabble much in non-fiction but I've been listening to the rise and fall of the third reich by William L. Shirer and it's totally engrossing. I'm only up to like 1932 and there is still 40 hours left!Just picked this up at the library and felt kind of weird walking out with a book that has a giant Nazi flag on the front.
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2021, 07:22:06 PM
I gave the first of these to my dad for Christmas based on this thread and he really liked it. Thanks!I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
The Murderbot Diaries series. There are 4 novellas and a novel and they are all so much fun.
Just finished the first Murderbot novella. I enjoyed it. It's basically a cyborg version of me. :shy:
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 17, 2021, 07:40:18 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on August 18, 2021, 09:20:24 AM
Finished Fargo Rock City a while back. It was just ok. Its about a dude growing up in Fargo in the 80's that got turned on to metal music. Good if you really really really like 80's metal which I don't so much, but there were some good stories.
Working on "Everyone Loves Our Town". Its a compilation of a bunch of interviews and stories of Seattle bands that started and became the "grunge movement". I'm loving this. Its still crazy that out of nowhere, one area produced all of these bands that hit around the same time. It starts with bands most people have never heard of like the U-Men, Skinyard, Malfunction, etc. Most of those bands paved the way and had members that ended up in Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, etc. The other crazy part was how young some of these dudes were. Reading the stories you think they are like 24-26 years old. Some of these dudes were living in communal housing, playing music, and getting all drunk and drugged up at like 15-16. If you are or were into 90's rock, you would enjoy the stories.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 18, 2021, 01:36:30 PM
Had to take a long drive by myself recently so I decided to listen to a book for the first time ever. I just grabbed the most popular non fiction and it was the Mathew McConaughey memoir or whatever. It was pretty enjoyable, especially since his sexy voice was reading it. Def some boring parts, but he's had a pretty interesting life.Not 90s rock-related but I read last night that Jimi Hendrix was from Seattle, too. I drove thru Kurt Cobain's hometown (Aberdeen, WA) on vacation one time.
Finished Fargo Rock City a while back. It was just ok. Its about a dude growing up in Fargo in the 80's that got turned on to metal music. Good if you really really really like 80's metal which I don't so much, but there were some good stories.
Working on "Everyone Loves Our Town". Its a compilation of a bunch of interviews and stories of Seattle bands that started and became the "grunge movement". I'm loving this. Its still crazy that out of nowhere, one area produced all of these bands that hit around the same time. It starts with bands most people have never heard of like the U-Men, Skinyard, Malfunction, etc. Most of those bands paved the way and had members that ended up in Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, etc. The other crazy part was how young some of these dudes were. Reading the stories you think they are like 24-26 years old. Some of these dudes were living in communal housing, playing music, and getting all drunk and drugged up at like 15-16. If you are or were into 90's rock, you would enjoy the stories.
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Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 05:52:54 AM
I got this on kindle and the author's homophobia is pretty jarring even if it's a great read overallI don't dabble much in non-fiction but I've been listening to the rise and fall of the third reich by William L. Shirer and it's totally engrossing. I'm only up to like 1932 and there is still 40 hours left!Just picked this up at the library and felt kind of weird walking out with a book that has a giant Nazi flag on the front.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 22, 2021, 07:21:31 AM
Post by: michigancat on September 22, 2021, 07:39:34 AM
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good discussion of it here too: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/897092-anti-gay
Post by: Stupid Fitz on September 22, 2021, 10:25:49 AM
I had to go back and look this up because wow
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good discussion of it here too: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/897092-anti-gay
These people are so weird. Like, someone being gay has zero affect on anything you will ever do. Based on his comment, he thinks being gay is worse (or at least on par) with murdering people. I'm sure some of it is shock value, but man.
Anyhoo, I'm starting The Anti Social Network by Ben Mezrich. Its about the Gamestop situation. Haven't gotten into it much yet, but Mezrich's books are usually fun quick reads. Will report back soon.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 17, 2021, 09:43:29 AM
Post by: chum1 on October 17, 2021, 10:44:09 AM
Just finished Finding Everett Ruess by David Roberts. Tells the story of a 20yo explorer who disappeared in southern Utah in 1934. He was a writer and artist in addition to a talented wilderness explorer. He would go on months long solo journeys into the wilderness in Northern AZ and southern Utah in the three years before he vanished. John Krakauer had a chapter about him in Into the Wild. Makes me want to get back to the Grand Canyon area ASAP.
Sounds cool. I'm going to check it out.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 09, 2021, 09:58:49 PM
Finished Prophet of Freedom tonight. Fantastic biography. Took me a while to work through it.not sure which one cire is talking about but prophet of freedom is a good oneFrederick Douglass biography is outstanding if you like works about incredible people doing incredible thingsWhich biography?
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I'm almost finished with Truman by David McCullough. Pretty fascinating life (for a person from Missouri).
Post by: Stupid Fitz on November 10, 2021, 08:59:41 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 07:47:58 PM
Re-reading The Crossing now. Gripping section of Part I:Have we discussed Cormac McCarthy's novels ITT? I think The Crossing is still my favorite with Blood Meridian andNo Country for Old Men close behind.
I loved ATPH and decided to read the rest of the trilogy. Each book is good on its own, but I was surprised and amazed at how great they are together. I finished, thought about the themes running throughout, and was like, "holy crap that is incredible."
Part I of the crossing is one of my all time favorite books/parts of a book.
The earlier stuff is so damn bleak. Good. But damn bleak.
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Post by: tdaver on November 30, 2021, 09:47:59 AM
I’m 21st on the library hold list :Crybaby:
Hope they ordered a lot of copies :pray:
Post by: Stupid Fitz on November 30, 2021, 12:46:49 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 30, 2021, 12:50:24 PM
Need a new non fiction book. Any suggestions? I like books about real people that did cool things. Joined a band, started a business, became a drug lord, IDGAF. If it is real and interesting, i'm prob in. TIAEndurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing. Very real and interesting.
Post by: Cire on December 02, 2021, 12:38:17 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on December 02, 2021, 01:36:47 PM
https://apps.npr.org/best-books/#view=covers&year=2021
I'm currently reading No Gods, No Monsters that I picked off of there. Too early to tell how good it is but it's off to a solid start. The Trees is a good one that I just finished reading. Both center around racial issues in quasi-supernatural ways.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 02, 2021, 01:49:38 PM
I love this NPR thing every year - helps me quickly find some books that might interest me.
https://apps.npr.org/best-books/#view=covers&year=2021
I'm currently reading No Gods, No Monsters that I picked off of there. Too early to tell how good it is but it's off to a solid start. The Trees is a good one that I just finished reading. Both center around racial issues in quasi-supernatural ways.
Poet Warrior: A Memoir is on the list. :surprised:
Post by: Brock Landers on December 02, 2021, 02:08:39 PM
Old but 1491 is Awesome. What archaeology/anthropology/genetics etc tells us about the Americas prior to Columbus.
Yeah I read 1491 a while back simply because it's been brought up in here a few times. I still intend to read 1493 as well.
Post by: Cire on December 02, 2021, 04:38:32 PM
I’m reading/listening at the same time.Old but 1491 is Awesome. What archaeology/anthropology/genetics etc tells us about the Americas prior to Columbus.
Yeah I read 1491 a while back simply because it's been brought up in here a few times. I still intend to read 1493 as well.
93 is more about the consequences in other parts of the world, Asia and Africa so far.
Still interesting but I’m not as curious about Asia/pacific
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Post by: michigancat on December 02, 2021, 04:54:11 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 02, 2021, 05:00:09 PM
IMO both are great. what it really opened my eyes to was the influence of Mexican agriculture on food globally.
I really enjoyed the points made about rubber, and how the industrial revolution was unlikely to happen without it.
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Post by: Cire on December 03, 2021, 06:01:47 AM
Read those books a couple of years ago but what blew my mind was that Potatoes were from the new world. I guess I never really thought of it and always associated potatoes with poor European peasants...but potatoes were a key part of the population explosion in Europe, you could grow alot more calories per acre in potatoes than wheat or barley.Really South America/Inca
rough ridin' Irish lived on potatoes and milk
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Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 07:19:20 AM
And the potato bio-diversity discussion! And Native American agriculture in general!Read those books a couple of years ago but what blew my mind was that Potatoes were from the new world. I guess I never really thought of it and always associated potatoes with poor European peasants...but potatoes were a key part of the population explosion in Europe, you could grow alot more calories per acre in potatoes than wheat or barley.Really South America/Inca
rough ridin' Irish lived on potatoes and milk
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 03, 2021, 08:31:09 AM
Edit: just saw this. One of the best sections of the book/movie.
https://twitter.com/CenterLeft2020/status/1466614456083955712?s=20
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2021, 08:35:05 AM
Currently reading A Christmas Carol by Dickens for the first time. It is just fantastic. I love the 1984 George C Scott movie adaptation of the novel. It looks like they basically used the novel as their screenplay. Really worth reading if you have never done so before.Good tip. I might do this
Post by: Cire on December 03, 2021, 09:11:50 AM
And the potato bio-diversity discussion! And Native American agriculture in general!Read those books a couple of years ago but what blew my mind was that Potatoes were from the new world. I guess I never really thought of it and always associated potatoes with poor European peasants...but potatoes were a key part of the population explosion in Europe, you could grow alot more calories per acre in potatoes than wheat or barley.Really South America/Inca
rough ridin' Irish lived on potatoes and milk
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I think it was in 91 where they discuss that horticulture/biologists/geneticists etc have no rough riding idea how they got maize as large and productive as they did.
The corn that they produced was already a fraction of the size of what we know but even to get it THAT big is apparently an incredible feat.
Post by: Cire on December 03, 2021, 09:13:26 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 13, 2021, 02:50:11 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Vivian-Maier-Developed-Untold-Photographer/dp/198216672X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=vivian+maier&qid=1639428149&s=books&sr=1-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Vivian-Maier-Developed-Untold-Photographer/dp/198216672X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=vivian+maier&qid=1639428149&s=books&sr=1-1)
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Vivian Maier, the photographer nanny whose work was famously discovered in a Chicago storage locker, captured the imagination of the world with her masterful images and mysterious life. Before posthumously skyrocketing to global fame, she had so deeply buried her past that even the families she lived with knew little about her. No one could relay where she was born or raised, if she had parents or siblings, if she enjoyed personal relationships, why she took photographs and why she didn’t share them with others. Now, in this definitive biography, Ann Marks uses her complete access to Vivian’s personal records and archive of 140,000 photographs to reveal the full story of her extraordinary life.
Post by: Pete on December 13, 2021, 08:51:57 PM
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Post by: Pete on December 13, 2021, 09:19:42 PM
Which is better?
The book is really slow. I'm about 30% through it, and hardly anything has happened. It must get a lot better or something?
I thought the show was a little half baked, and was hoping the book would explain everything better. I'm just more confused. I'll stick with the book and see how it goes. I don't like the old time science fiction so far though.
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Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2022, 03:18:14 PM
I just read "Among the Thugs" about English soccer hooligans and their riots in the 80's and it's wild (and Millwall supporters are highlighted quite a bit). Also especially relevant given the January 6 anniversary.
Also finished "The Bell Jar". so good and so sad.
Post by: Pete on January 18, 2022, 01:29:49 PM
Which is better?
The book is really slow. I'm about 30% through it, and hardly anything has happened. It must get a lot better or something?
I thought the show was a little half baked, and was hoping the book would explain everything better. I'm just more confused. I'll stick with the book and see how it goes. I don't like the old time science fiction so far though.
I'm half way through the second book in the Foundation series by Asimov. Very old timey writing, but it's sort of charming. Everyone smokes cigars and ciggeretes in these books, it's like a huge thing. Also, lots of physical paper descriptions (tubes delivering paper, documents that need to be filled out in triplicate, etc.). Anything vaguely technical is described as being some sort of derivative of nuclear physics. So, in order to enjoy these the reader has to quickly get passed the dated notions of what "the future" would look like.
Post by: ben ji on February 08, 2022, 09:54:09 PM
Seems like he had the whole FIRE lifestyle figured out in the 1880's.
Also he was like 5 feet tall and very insecure about his height so he wore big boots all the time and if he was in a picture he would make everyone else sit or he would stand on top of stairs to look taller.
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Post by: star seed 7 on February 08, 2022, 10:29:27 PM
And how did this young pipsqueak from Scotland become a powerful gilded age businessman? Well he started working at a telegram office as a teenager and was privy to all the inside deals of the Railroad and other business men since he would transcribe their telegrams so they started cutting him in on their deals. Fascinating stuff.
The American dream
Post by: ben ji on February 08, 2022, 10:56:46 PM
Fun fact. Carnegie came to the US as a young boy in the 1840's but never actually filed for citizenship until the 1880's when he started to become wealthy/famous enough for the press to start hounding him about whether he was a European or American. He had held off filing for American citizenship until then because he thought maybe he would want to be a politician in Britain since he spent most summers there hob knobbing with lord's and crap.And how did this young pipsqueak from Scotland become a powerful gilded age businessman? Well he started working at a telegram office as a teenager and was privy to all the inside deals of the Railroad and other business men since he would transcribe their telegrams so they started cutting him in on their deals. Fascinating stuff.
The American dream
Eventually he was shamed into becoming a US citizen by the press.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 09, 2022, 08:31:59 AM
Fun fact. Carnegie came to the US as a young boy in the 1840's but never actually filed for citizenship until the 1880's when he started to become wealthy/famous enough for the press to start hounding him about whether he was a European or American. He had held off filing for American citizenship until then because he thought maybe he would want to be a politician in Britain since he spent most summers there hob knobbing with lord's and crap.And how did this young pipsqueak from Scotland become a powerful gilded age businessman? Well he started working at a telegram office as a teenager and was privy to all the inside deals of the Railroad and other business men since he would transcribe their telegrams so they started cutting him in on their deals. Fascinating stuff.
The American dream
Eventually he was shamed into becoming a US citizen by the press.
Nice, there was a series on the History Channel (I think) called The Men Who Built America. It was Carnegie, Ford, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, and JP Morgan. Very good.
Also, you recommending an 8000 page book made me think of this. I made the mistake of recommending and giving a book to my father in law and he "returned the favor" and brought me an old 900 page book about Warren Buffett. :sdeek: Like, what is the etiquette here? I'll never get through it even if I try. I don't think he will really care, but its just sitting on my counter and I have no interest.
Post by: mocat on February 09, 2022, 04:00:07 PM
Post by: ben ji on February 09, 2022, 04:32:02 PM
An old coworker gave me this book around 10 years ago and I never read it, recently found it in my basement and decided to give it a shot.Fun fact. Carnegie came to the US as a young boy in the 1840's but never actually filed for citizenship until the 1880's when he started to become wealthy/famous enough for the press to start hounding him about whether he was a European or American. He had held off filing for American citizenship until then because he thought maybe he would want to be a politician in Britain since he spent most summers there hob knobbing with lord's and crap.And how did this young pipsqueak from Scotland become a powerful gilded age businessman? Well he started working at a telegram office as a teenager and was privy to all the inside deals of the Railroad and other business men since he would transcribe their telegrams so they started cutting him in on their deals. Fascinating stuff.
The American dream
Eventually he was shamed into becoming a US citizen by the press.
Nice, there was a series on the History Channel (I think) called The Men Who Built America. It was Carnegie, Ford, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, and JP Morgan. Very good.
Also, you recommending an 8000 page book made me think of this. I made the mistake of recommending and giving a book to my father in law and he "returned the favor" and brought me an old 900 page book about Warren Buffett. :sdeek: Like, what is the etiquette here? I'll never get through it even if I try. I don't think he will really care, but its just sitting on my counter and I have no interest.
The key is to skim right through all the boring parts like pages of love letters between Carnegie and his secret fiance.
Another fun fact, Carnegie was a total momma's boy and lived with her until she died. He wanted to Marry this girl but his mom thought he could do better so he just waited 5 years or so until his mother died before marrying who he wanted.
Post by: CHONGS on February 17, 2022, 04:27:38 PM
Yeah Murderbot is fun. I am about to start book 2.I gave the first of these to my dad for Christmas based on this thread and he really liked it. Thanks!I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
The Murderbot Diaries series. There are 4 novellas and a novel and they are all so much fun.
Just finished the first Murderbot novella. I enjoyed it. It's basically a cyborg version of me. :shy:
Post by: Pete on February 18, 2022, 08:18:52 AM
I didn’t read anymore after the second one. It was good, but I just felt like I had enough of it.Yeah Murderbot is fun. I am about to start book 2.I gave the first of these to my dad for Christmas based on this thread and he really liked it. Thanks!I need something new. Fiction and purely for entertainment. In the last 2 years I’ve read the Expanse series (waiting on book 9), Red Rising series (waiting on book 6), Kingkiller series (waiting on book 3, not holding my breath), and Stormlight series (waiting on book 5). All were great. Any suggestions? Something completed might be nice.
The Murderbot Diaries series. There are 4 novellas and a novel and they are all so much fun.
Just finished the first Murderbot novella. I enjoyed it. It's basically a cyborg version of me. :shy:
Post by: Pete on February 18, 2022, 08:22:06 AM
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Post by: Cire on March 17, 2022, 03:47:42 PM
About the bloody benders
Must read if you’ve ever been interested
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/bloody-benders-true-story-kate-bender-crimes-susan-jonusas.html
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Post by: cfbandyman on March 24, 2022, 07:42:53 PM
Related side note, I am absolutely fascinated with the Soviet Union history recently, though admittedly post Stalin. Living under the moustache had to just be brutal, but after that just like, how the USSR worked internally is just fascinating. It's so much richer (and weirder) than just thinking of it as the "evil empire." Not an endorsement of it, but from living arrangements, to education, work, shopping (and black markets) is just interesting af.
Post by: ben ji on March 25, 2022, 11:11:56 AM
O boy bet that's interesting.I agree, it's fascinating.
Related side note, I am absolutely fascinated with the Soviet Union history recently, though admittedly post Stalin. Living under the moustache had to just be brutal, but after that just like, how the USSR worked internally is just fascinating. It's so much richer (and weirder) than just thinking of it as the "evil empire." Not an endorsement of it, but from living arrangements, to education, work, shopping (and black markets) is just interesting af.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2022, 04:38:23 PM
If you ever want to feel really great about humanity and the depravity we can commit read Bloodlands by SnyderCurrently listening to the audiobook. Provides helpful context for current events.
Post by: ben ji on March 29, 2022, 10:32:10 PM
Yeah, it's mumped up. Also Dan Carlin has a great 4 series podcast about the Eastern Front in WW2 and they are $1 each.If you ever want to feel really great about humanity and the depravity we can commit read Bloodlands by SnyderCurrently listening to the audiobook. Provides helpful context for current events.
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
Yeah, it's mumped up. Also Dan Carlin has a great 4 series podcast about the Eastern Front in WW2 and they are $1 each.If you ever want to feel really great about humanity and the depravity we can commit read Bloodlands by SnyderCurrently listening to the audiobook. Provides helpful context for current events.
That's a good one. The ostfront. Dan Carlin's Mongolian Khan's series was amazing as well. Very long, but perfect for a long road trip.
Post by: Brock Landers on April 18, 2022, 04:14:22 PM
Burning through Dave Grohl's, The Story Teller. It's pretty great. I'm always fascinated with people that find their thing at an early age and make it happen. He's pretty great at putting his memories into words. Good book so far.
Just finished this last night, very enjoyable. I thought there would be more stuff about Nirvana.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 18, 2022, 04:16:24 PM
Ghosts of the Ostfront was my second favorite Dan Carlin series (after the WW1 series).Yeah, it's mumped up. Also Dan Carlin has a great 4 series podcast about the Eastern Front in WW2 and they are $1 each.If you ever want to feel really great about humanity and the depravity we can commit read Bloodlands by SnyderCurrently listening to the audiobook. Provides helpful context for current events.
Post by: Spracne on April 18, 2022, 04:28:27 PM
Ghosts of the Ostfront was my second favorite Dan Carlin series (after the WW1 series).Yeah, it's mumped up. Also Dan Carlin has a great 4 series podcast about the Eastern Front in WW2 and they are $1 each.If you ever want to feel really great about humanity and the depravity we can commit read Bloodlands by SnyderCurrently listening to the audiobook. Provides helpful context for current events.
His WWI series was so grueling and brutally long that I felt like I was in the trenches facing constant shelling.
Post by: Cire on April 19, 2022, 12:13:10 PM
Ostfront
WWI
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 04, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Mincemeat-Bizarre-Fooled-Assured/dp/0307453286 (https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Mincemeat-Bizarre-Fooled-Assured/dp/0307453286)
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 16, 2022, 03:09:47 PM
Guys, need a book recommendation ASAP. On vacation in 5 days so I want a book for the trip. Has to be non fiction. Pretty much any topic as long as its a good story or about someone interesting. I know that's pretty broad, but that's all i got. I loved Shoe Dog, American Kingpin, books about music, baseball, stock market, etc. Anything that is non fiction and interesting. My only other requirement is that it isn't 800 pages. If it isn't fantastic, i'll tap out. Plus its a beach vacay and I don't want to drag around an encyclopedia. If anyone has anything, shoot it my way. ThanksKillers of the Flower Moon if you haven't read it yet
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 17, 2022, 08:41:20 AM
The Only Rule is it Has to Work - baseball book
Winner, thank you sir
Post by: Brock Landers on May 23, 2022, 10:40:20 AM
Spoiler alert: Chris Robinson is a lunatic who almost singlehandedly torpedoed The Black Crowes successes and prevented them from being bigger than they should have been.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 23, 2022, 11:17:00 AM
Currently listening to The Reckoning by John Grisham. The audiobook narrator is great but unlike most Grisham novels, I have yet to encounter any likeable characters.
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2022, 11:29:17 AM
Just finished A Perfect Spy by John LaCarre. I normally like his novels but I hated this one. Would not recommend.
i am reading A Perfect Spy and it's unlike any other Le Carre. i mean there is still spy stuff, but so far a good bit of it reads like Great Expectations
yeah he kind of meandered around too much with his coming of age retrospective junk but whatever. i still liked it
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 23, 2022, 12:07:22 PM
I was pretty pissed that he spent 600 pages elaborately drawing a portrait of every nook, cranny and layer of Pym's life only to have him blow his brains out at the end.Just finished A Perfect Spy by John LaCarre. I normally like his novels but I hated this one. Would not recommend.i am reading A Perfect Spy and it's unlike any other Le Carre. i mean there is still spy stuff, but so far a good bit of it reads like Great Expectations
yeah he kind of meandered around too much with his coming of age retrospective junk but whatever. i still liked it
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About 100 pages into The Lincoln Highway by Amor Towles. Very good so far.Just finished Lincoln Highway. It was fantastic. One of the most interesting novels I've read in the past several years. Highly recommend.
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Post by: Kat Kid on July 26, 2022, 09:12:14 AM
@Kat Kid I think you'd dig The Dawn of Everything (you might have already even read it).I have been terrible about buying huge books and not reading them but that sounds great. Ok I will definitely finish a book today.
Post by: Cire on July 26, 2022, 10:42:16 AM
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Not a horror story. Hit man on the last job story.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 26, 2022, 01:24:12 PM
Barbarian Days, a surfing life. William Finnegan New York Magazine writer autobiography of growing up surfing around the globe interlaced with his international journalist writing career. Really good man.
added to list. Thanks Porky
Post by: ben ji on July 26, 2022, 03:17:08 PM
I'm reading Going After Cacciato by Tim O'Brien right now. Just a fantastic novel about the Vietnam War. Probably by third favorite book that I've read about Vietnam after The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien and The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh. I also enjoyed Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy by Max Hastings and The Quiet American by Graham Greene. Do other gE'rs have Vietnam-related books to recommend?The things they carried is a great book. I just finished "With the old breed" by Eugene Sledge (they made the Pacific HBO miniseries around the book)and just devoured it in a couple of days...was up until 2am one night reading it
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 26, 2022, 03:22:34 PM
With The Old Breed was very good. There are some old interviews with Eugene Sledge floating around on YouTube or Amazon Prime that are very good.I'm reading Going After Cacciato by Tim O'Brien right now. Just a fantastic novel about the Vietnam War. Probably by third favorite book that I've read about Vietnam after The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien and The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh. I also enjoyed Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy by Max Hastings and The Quiet American by Graham Greene. Do other gE'rs have Vietnam-related books to recommend?The things they carried is a great book. I just finished "With the old breed" by Eugene Sledge (they made the Pacific HBO miniseries around the book)and just devoured it in a couple of days...was up until 2am one night reading it
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 27, 2022, 08:05:46 AM
Post by: ben ji on July 28, 2022, 09:32:36 PM
Tldr - the main character from the river gets a part time job guiding rich fishermen at a private resort in CO but some shady stuff is going on.
I love how all his books are outdoorsy with good plot/thriller turns. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220729/fcfdd29fcc97ed7d731b805de9545e4a.jpg)
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2022, 09:23:11 PM
I just started this and it is very interesting and funny@Kat Kid I think you'd dig The Dawn of Everything (you might have already even read it).I have been terrible about buying huge books and not reading them but that sounds great. Ok I will definitely finish a book today.
Post by: chum1 on August 13, 2022, 12:15:22 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 13, 2022, 09:20:34 AM
3rd book I've read from Peter Heller (dog stars and the river) and I absolutely crushed it in 5 straight hours.this looks v. interesting
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Post by: Spaces on September 19, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
Just finished The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin (audiobook read by Jesse L Martin). Would recommend.Recently finished Another Country by Baldwin and he's now my favorite author.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 19, 2022, 07:20:19 PM
I knew nothing about Baldwin until about 3 years ago which probably proves the truth in much of his writings. He was a prophetic genius.Just finished The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin (audiobook read by Jesse L Martin). Would recommend.Recently finished Another Country by Baldwin and he's now my favorite author.
Have you seen Raoul Peck’s documentary about Baldwin “I Am Not Your Negro”? A must see for anyone with an interest in Baldwin (which should probably be any American).
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https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-backstreets/9780231202916 (https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-backstreets/9780231202916)
Just finished re-reading The Complete Maus graphic novel. It is a must read.
Post by: ben ji on November 08, 2022, 07:38:20 PM
I picked up the book from my local library today and started reading and have enjoyed it so far.
Post by: CHONGS on November 08, 2022, 07:45:38 PM
Anyone ever read Dune? I watched the recent movie over the weekend and enjoyed it...did some googling and apparently the book/series is kind of a big deal in 20th century sci-fi.Yes. The first three books are worth a read. I'd personally stop after those
I picked up the book from my local library today and started reading and have enjoyed it so far.
Post by: ben ji on November 08, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
Anyone ever read Dune? I watched the recent movie over the weekend and enjoyed it...did some googling and apparently the book/series is kind of a big deal in 20th century sci-fi.Yes. The first three books are worth a read. I'd personally stop after those
I picked up the book from my local library today and started reading and have enjoyed it so far.
:thumbsup:
I made it about 1/6th through the first book tonight and have enjoyed it (basically the same as the movie I watched over the weekend so far) but I'm not ready to spend all winter reading 6 books. :surprised:
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Post by: Pete on November 15, 2022, 02:23:30 PM
Is anyone reading the second era of Mistborn? Book 4 is out today. The time period is a nice change of pace and adds some fun wrinkles compared to the rest of Sanderson’s Cosmere books.I read the original series and liked it. I think I will check these out…I’m looking for a new series
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None that I would recommend
And Then There Were No Potatoes is a good read.I’m going to cancel my premium sub.
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Post by: Cire on May 17, 2023, 03:02:00 PM
Just used the Libby app to check out the audiobook of GRANT by Ron Chernow. Great stuff so far. Very good reader.
Chernow/Grant is solid
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Post by: Pete on May 30, 2023, 11:36:33 AM
THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA, by Ernest Hemmingway. Who knew this thing was so short? Could probably read the entire book in an hour. What an easy American literary classic to knock off your bucket list.I had to read this in high school, and I am certain that I didn’t get as much out of it as I would if I read it today.
Post by: DQ12 on May 30, 2023, 02:35:46 PM
it's good so far. this is my introduction to hemmingway, and it seems like a good one to introduce me to him.THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA, by Ernest Hemmingway. Who knew this thing was so short? Could probably read the entire book in an hour. What an easy American literary classic to knock off your bucket list.I had to read this in high school, and I am certain that I didn’t get as much out of it as I would if I read it today.
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Post by: ben ji on May 30, 2023, 03:40:30 PM
nope. for whatever reason, he's been a blind spot for me.The sun also rises is pretty good if you want to go on a Hemingway spree.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 30, 2023, 03:48:31 PM
Post by: DQ12 on May 30, 2023, 03:52:29 PM
Next is As I Lay Dying by Billy Faulkner.nope. for whatever reason, he's been a blind spot for me.The sun also rises is pretty good if you want to go on a Hemingway spree.
Post by: Spracne on May 30, 2023, 04:34:32 PM
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As for Faulkner, I haven't tried any of his work since my early 20's, but he was depressing and slow paced, iirc.
Post by: Spracne on May 30, 2023, 05:07:45 PM
My fav Hemmingway is For Whom the Bell Tolls.
As for Faulkner, I haven't tried any of his work since my early 20's, but he was depressing and slow paced, iirc.
Faulkner is pretty great. He basically chronicles the story of the slow descent and decay of the postbellum South. Some real "Fall of the House of Usher" vibes.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 30, 2023, 05:50:51 PM
https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/faulknerw-mississippi/faulknerw-mississippi-00-h.html (https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/faulknerw-mississippi/faulknerw-mississippi-00-h.html)
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I think most classics are boring af.I enjoy reading them, and they make me feel proud of myself. If I’m gonna slog through a book, I want it to be a book I’m proud to have read.
And every once in a while you’ll read some absolutely transcendent sentence and you think to yourself “oh, that’s why this book is a classic.”
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 31, 2023, 08:47:41 AM
My fav Hemmingway is For Whom the Bell Tolls.I could never get into Faulkner. Found it just unreadable.
As for Faulkner, I haven't tried any of his work since my early 20's, but he was depressing and slow paced, iirc.
_A Farewell to Arms_ is my favorite Hemingway novel. I really enjoy his "Nick Adams" short stories. Various vignettes from Nick's childhood in the forests of Michigan as well as Nick's return trips into nature in an effort to heal from the trauma of WW1.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 31, 2023, 09:04:30 AM
Post by: ben ji on May 31, 2023, 10:34:30 PM
Some interesting notes
- BlackBerry focused their marketing on C level executives, would send salesmen to airports/conferences and give 1 month free trials to people using pagers or palm pilots. When those people got hooked they would demand their subordinates get blackberries too and so on down the line
- 10 days after 9/11 the US government bought blackberries for all of Congress/Senate and cabinet members because it was the only reliable form of communication during 9/11
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Post by: mocat on May 31, 2023, 10:36:44 PM
I'm about halfway through A Legacy of Spies by John LeCarre. I think it is my third favorite LeCarre novel behind The Spy Who Came in From the Cold and Call for the Dead.
TSWCiFtC is also my fave JLC
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 20, 2023, 01:23:44 PM
Just used the Libby app to check out the audiobook of GRANT by Ron Chernow. Great stuff so far. Very good reader.This is a very long audiobook. Just getting to the part where Grant and Lee are sending messages back and forth to decide on a place to meet for negotiations to end the war. Spine-tingling stuff. Grant is commanding the most powerful armed force in history up to this time, holding the fate of the United States in his hands and is totally at ease with it all. The narrator is very good. Has voices for all of the different people. Is really performing the biography more than just reading it.
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Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2023, 09:14:37 PM
US in decline
lol, lmao
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OkUS in decline
lol, lmao
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Post by: catastrophe on July 25, 2023, 09:44:52 PM
What I’m saying is I don’t anticipate any psychological effects of being overtaken by any country on really any metric except maybe gun ownership.
Post by: Kat Kid on July 25, 2023, 09:50:49 PM
How much would the US have to decline for us to even acknowledge it? We’re already one of extremely few developed countries that provide affordable healthcare and people treat it like a point of pride.I don’t know, but I don’t think that we will see the end of the US a empire in our lifetimes. But that doesn’t mean we haven’t peaked.
What I’m saying is I don’t anticipate any psychological effects of being overtaken by any country on really any metric except maybe gun ownership.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on July 26, 2023, 12:09:37 AM
Napoleon was basically LHC Bill SnyderExcept Bill’s reign didn’t even start age wise until
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Napoleon was already dead. So Bill had a better career IMO.
Post by: sys on July 26, 2023, 12:15:39 AM
that doesn’t mean we haven’t peaked.
i guess that depends on what you mean. in absolute terms, i think there is essentially a 0% chance that the united states has peaked. americans will richer and live better lives every day of the future than they do now for the rest of our lives.
in relative terms, that some other countries may grow their economies and standards of living faster than ours and close the gap or surpass those of the people in the u.s - yeah, sure. the former is basically 100% and the latter (for a large country, not a small resource exploiting or tax haven state) is reasonably likely within our lifetime.
Post by: Kat Kid on July 26, 2023, 06:38:51 AM
Yeah this whole argument brewing is pretty dependent upon defining our terms. I am not saying that the market is crashing tomorrow and the us is poised to have riots in the streets tomorrow. I am pointing out the very obvious point that the us will have to deal with China (and other countries) on more equal footing and is likely to have a sad about it.that doesn’t mean we haven’t peaked.
i guess that depends on what you mean. in absolute terms, i think there is essentially a 0% chance that the united states has peaked. americans will richer and live better lives every day of the future than they do now for the rest of our lives.
in relative terms, that some other countries may grow their economies and standards of living faster than ours and close the gap or surpass those of the people in the u.s - yeah, sure. the former is basically 100% and the latter (for a large country, not a small resource exploiting or tax haven state) is reasonably likely within our lifetime.
As far as how to measure things, I think we are past the point where GDP per capita is all that effective in describing quality of life for Americans as our Gini coefficient is likely to grow worse and as has been pointed out the things that improve quality of life generationally (education, health care, etc.) are seeing enormous inflation.
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Post by: Kat Kid on July 26, 2023, 07:12:12 AM
Just started “The Wages of Destruction”
https://www.amazon.com/Wages-Destruction-Making-Breaking-Economy/dp/0143113208
Post by: Spaces on July 26, 2023, 12:47:21 PM
I finally got to this on the Libby app (what a cool app!). Made it through 7 of the 48 hours and just got to the Civil War, but my hold on it expired. Very entertaining listen so far, I'll start it back up eventually.Just used the Libby app to check out the audiobook of GRANT by Ron Chernow. Great stuff so far. Very good reader.This is a very long audiobook. Just getting to the part where Grant and Lee are sending messages back and forth to decide on a place to meet for negotiations to end the war. Spine-tingling stuff. Grant is commanding the most powerful armed force in history up to this time, holding the fate of the United States in his hands and is totally at ease with it all. The narrator is very good. Has voices for all of the different people. Is really performing the biography more than just reading it.
Post by: Cire on July 26, 2023, 03:27:32 PM
Libby is awesome. I exclusively read/listen using it.
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There’s a decent movie called Anthropoid or something on that topic. Cillain Murphy is in it.Yeah. It looks like the story has inspired several movies and docs over the years. Very interesting story and the operation was questioned a lot at the time and after the war because the Allied leaders outside of Czechoslovokia knew there was a high likelihood the assassination would provoke horrific reprisals (and it did).
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 28, 2023, 11:45:37 AM
Has anyone read the Berlin Noir trilogy by Phillip Kerr? Very interesting historical detective fiction.Just finished _The Other Side of Silence_ which is another detective novel / historical fiction in the Bernie Gunther series. Would recommend if you like WW2 or Cold War related fiction.
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Post by: Pete on December 30, 2023, 06:56:00 PM
Has anyone else read _Civilizations_ by Laurent Binet? One of my coworkers got me started on it. It is a counterfactual history thing where the Incas obtain ironmaking technology from early Viking explorers and then fight off Columbus when he comes to colonize them. They take Columbus' ships and return to Europe and begin to conquer the Iberian peninsula by giving the people relief from the Inquisition. This is as far as I've gotten in the book. I've never gotten into alternative history stuff (other than Confederates in the Attic) but this is pretty interesting.
How'd this turn out? Do you recommend?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 31, 2023, 09:00:10 AM
I liked it a lot. Would recommend. Like I said above, I haven’t gotten into alternative history a lot in the past but I really enjoyed this. I liked _HHhH_ even more.Has anyone else read _Civilizations_ by Laurent Binet? One of my coworkers got me started on it. It is a counterfactual history thing where the Incas obtain ironmaking technology from early Viking explorers and then fight off Columbus when he comes to colonize them. They take Columbus' ships and return to Europe and begin to conquer the Iberian peninsula by giving the people relief from the Inquisition. This is as far as I've gotten in the book. I've never gotten into alternative history stuff (other than Confederates in the Attic) but this is pretty interesting.
How'd this turn out? Do you recommend?
Post by: 8manpick on December 31, 2023, 01:08:51 PM
Finished the Michael Lewis book on SBF and FTX. It was ok. You can tell he wrote most of it before the collapse and SBF getting arrested and then added/changed it. It was pretty interesting in parts. That was a really strange group of people.I enjoyed it. Quick read. Would have been better had FTX just kept on rolling along I think.
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Also just read The Gambler - Billy Walters. Another fun read, believe like 40% of it
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2024, 08:20:53 AM
Couple years ago my teenage son and I listed to this “hardcore history” series by Dan Carlin and it was tremendous.
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Recently I finished the first book in this historical fiction series and it was the best historical fiction I have read, no doubt.
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I do a really good Dan Carlin impersonation.His shouting when quoting is pretty LOL sometimes. “THE HORDE RAPED THE BUTTHOLES AND THE EYE HOLES AND MOUTH HOLES, NO HOLES WERE SPARED!”
Post by: Spracne on January 16, 2024, 08:58:06 AM
I do a really good Dan Carlin impersonation.His shouting when quoting is pretty LOL sometimes. “THE HORDE RAPED THE BUTTHOLES AND THE EYE HOLES AND MOUTH HOLES, NO HOLES WERE SPARED!”
He always reads like he's oddly surprised, but also not all that enthused.
Post by: Cire on January 17, 2024, 09:53:38 AM
I do a really good Dan Carlin impersonation.His shouting when quoting is pretty LOL sometimes. “THE HORDE RAPED THE BUTTHOLES AND THE EYE HOLES AND MOUTH HOLES, NO HOLES WERE SPARED!”
Haha, perfect.
"THE HORDES CUT OFF SO MANY HEADS THAT THEY RAN OUT OF WAGONS TO PROVE TO THE GREAT KHAN THAT THE JOB HAD BEEN DONE. SO THEY BEGAN CUTTING OFF THE EARS OF THE DEAD AND FILLED 10,000 WAGONS WITH THE EARS OF THE DEAD"
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Just finished _The One From the Other_ audiobook performed by John Lee, also in the Bernie Gunther series. Incredibly bleak atmosphere. Probably my favorite in the Bernie Gunther series so far. Great listen while walking your dog in the fog on a January night.Has anyone read the Berlin Noir trilogy by Phillip Kerr? Very interesting historical detective fiction.Just finished _The Other Side of Silence_ which is another detective novel / historical fiction in the Bernie Gunther series. Would recommend if you like WW2 or Cold War related fiction.