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Re: Hopefully An Issue We Can Get Some Bi-Partisan Agreement On
« Reply #477 on: August 25, 2018, 11:38:05 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/verizon-couldn-t-have-restricted-santa-clara-county-s-phone-ncna903531

Years in telecom, that's nothing more than a typical boneheaded customer service issue, which sadly happens all the time.

Why that government entity didn't have a dedicated account team they could contact is baffling.

It's also LOL'able to think that the companies that spend billions on their networks, and are already highly regulated, paying billions in taxes and fees to the government already.  Paying billions to local governments, power companies (true monopolies) and transportation entities (like railroads) for right of way, pole access etc. etc.  Wouldn't be allowed to run their own networks as they see fit as the article suggests.








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Re: Hopefully An Issue We Can Get Some Bi-Partisan Agreement On
« Reply #478 on: October 15, 2018, 04:33:03 PM »
It really looks like we probably have pretty solid bipartisan agreement after all.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kmedj/997-percent-of-unique-fcc-comments-favored-net-neutrality?utm_source=reddit.com

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Re: Hopefully An Issue We Can Get Some Bi-Partisan Agreement On
« Reply #479 on: February 18, 2019, 12:47:27 PM »
Hey everybody, how’s your internet working?
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« Reply #480 on: February 18, 2019, 02:42:26 PM »
Hey everybody, how’s your internet working?

1 gig now available at my house, up from 400Mbps.   HOA signed a bulk deal:  150 channels, 1G of Internet, and they just installed a blow torch Ruckus Access Point in every residence.  $45 a month.  QAM service which means no cable boxes, On Demand and Cloud Based DVR.




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« Reply #481 on: February 18, 2019, 02:51:14 PM »
Still pretty neutral though?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #482 on: February 18, 2019, 03:29:28 PM »
Still pretty neutral though?

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« Reply #483 on: February 18, 2019, 07:58:56 PM »
Hey everybody, how’s your internet working?

1 gig now available at my house, up from 400Mbps.   HOA signed a bulk deal:  150 channels, 1G of Internet, and they just installed a blow torch Ruckus Access Point in every residence.  $45 a month.  QAM service which means no cable boxes, On Demand and Cloud Based DVR.





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Re: Hopefully An Issue We Can Get Some Bi-Partisan Agreement On
« Reply #484 on: February 18, 2019, 08:28:44 PM »
Yeah, I mean that's a hell of a deal...

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« Reply #485 on: February 18, 2019, 08:33:46 PM »
Even if congress passes it there isn't an ISP on earth that would take advantage right away.  Would be business suicide.
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« Reply #486 on: February 19, 2019, 07:32:27 AM »
Even if congress passes it there isn't an ISP on earth that would take advantage right away.  Would be business suicide.

We’re six months into the proclaimed internet Armageddon of no net neutrality. What’s your over/under on when the evil internet barons roll out Operation DOOM?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #487 on: February 19, 2019, 07:40:49 AM »
To be clear, KSU-W, you also support Google’s right to prioritize search results in any way Bezos sees fit, right?
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« Reply #488 on: February 19, 2019, 07:44:22 AM »
To be clear, KSU-W, you also support Google’s right to prioritize search results in any way Bezos sees fit, right?

Nope. Did the net neutrality regs address that?
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« Reply #489 on: February 19, 2019, 07:52:19 AM »
To be clear, KSU-W, you also support Google’s right to prioritize search results in any way Bezos sees fit, right?

Nope. Did the net neutrality regs address that?
No, they didn’t.  So your position is that search engines shouldn’t have the right to prioritize results on their site, but ISPs should have the the right to prioritize bandwidth for certain sites over others?

Those positions seem wholly inconsistent to me. I can understand if you think that each private company should do whatever they want, but why limit one and not the other? For much of the country, ISPs have a local monopoly. If you don’t like the way Google search results are ordered, you can always choose Bing (if your ISP lets you).
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« Reply #490 on: February 19, 2019, 07:58:53 AM »
I've not experienced one argument against net neutrality that makes any factual sense.

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« Reply #491 on: February 19, 2019, 08:05:51 AM »
To be clear, KSU-W, you also support Google’s right to prioritize search results in any way Bezos sees fit, right?

Nope. Did the net neutrality regs address that?
No, they didn’t.  So your position is that search engines shouldn’t have the right to prioritize results on their site, but ISPs should have the the right to prioritize bandwidth for certain sites over others?

Those positions seem wholly inconsistent to me. I can understand if you think that each private company should do whatever they want, but why limit one and not the other? For much of the country, ISPs have a local monopoly. If you don’t like the way Google search results are ordered, you can always choose Bing (if your ISP lets you).

My “position” is that the net neutrality regs weren’t necessary, and when did I say Google search prioritizariom should be regulated?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #492 on: February 19, 2019, 08:08:56 AM »
Okay, fair enough. You don’t support their right to, but don’t think it should be regulated away from them.
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« Reply #493 on: February 19, 2019, 08:22:39 AM »
I've not experienced one argument against net neutrality that makes any factual sense.

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« Reply #494 on: February 19, 2019, 08:24:36 AM »
Okay, fair enough. You don’t support their right to, but don’t think it should be regulated away from them.

Yeah sorry - I didn’t read your question closely enough. I guess they should have the right even if I don’t like it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #495 on: February 19, 2019, 08:26:04 AM »
I've not experienced one argument against net neutrality that makes any factual sense.

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« Reply #496 on: February 19, 2019, 08:29:39 AM »
I've not experienced one argument against net neutrality that makes any factual sense.

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-W’s limitation of the quantity of regulation is actually a decent one. It’s not an argument against net neutrality though, just an argument for the null set.
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« Reply #497 on: February 19, 2019, 08:35:39 AM »
I don’t see a feasible way to regulate search prioritizarion and other liberal-leaning speech filters of influential social networking sites - which is concerning - without a host of unintended consequences.
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« Reply #498 on: February 19, 2019, 08:46:12 AM »
I'd love to read a search regulation.  That would be all kinds of LOL.

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« Reply #499 on: February 19, 2019, 08:46:42 AM »
Are there any advantages to the public for non-neutrality?

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