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Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on December 24, 2012, 01:13:52 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21446411/updated-top-25-and-one

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 24, 2012, 02:21:53 AM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: slackcat on December 24, 2012, 06:01:07 AM
 :bball:
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on December 24, 2012, 06:21:02 AM
Oh Man!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 24, 2012, 06:45:24 AM
He's such a nice guy and a great coach!!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Saulbadguy on December 24, 2012, 07:20:27 AM
Wait, what?
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on December 24, 2012, 07:31:10 AM
Seth Davis AP ballot

@SethDavisHoops 16. Fla 17. Pitt 18. Minn 19. UNLV 20. NDame 21. Gtown 22. NCSt 23. Creighton 24. K St 25. Wyoming
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on December 24, 2012, 08:11:32 AM
Well would you look at that
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: chum1 on December 24, 2012, 08:19:05 AM
Gee, guys.  Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on December 24, 2012, 08:19:51 AM
Gee, guys.  Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.

The media LOVES oscar!
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on December 24, 2012, 08:22:57 AM
We are the second best 2 loss team? 

We get a chance to prove it against another ranked team very soon when we play Oklahoma State.

Did our season just turn on like a light switch or something?  This feels strange, doesn't it?

Yikes.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 24, 2012, 08:28:44 AM
Gee, guys.  Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.

The media LOVES oscar!

He's a great guy and worked under Gene Keady!!!  Tom Izzo loves him and was so mad when he got unfairly fired!!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on December 24, 2012, 08:35:33 AM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on December 24, 2012, 09:07:47 AM
"Buy in or Quit" doesn't seem appropriate. More like "Buy in or I'll be disappointed, want some peanut brittle?"  But, it just may work....
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on December 24, 2012, 09:30:16 AM
it's about time
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: yosh on December 24, 2012, 09:37:28 AM
 :dubious:  and   :emawkid:  at the same time.  I'll take it.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wabash909 on December 24, 2012, 09:44:43 AM
What a wonderful Christmas gift.

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on December 24, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
:dubious:  and   :emawkid:  at the same time.  I'll take it.

good summation
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 24, 2012, 10:30:12 AM
Hopefully, there will be room for all of the hardware and banners next to the oars from last year's DiamondHead.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzified on December 24, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
It the AP poll looks anything like that CBS one it is going to push hemorrhoid  medication sales through the roof in Lawrence
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: slobber on December 24, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
"Buy in or Quit" doesn't seem appropriate. More like "Buy in or I'll be disappointed, want some peanut brittle?"  But, it just may work....
But, it just may work....

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksu101 on December 24, 2012, 12:23:10 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings)

#25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :ksu:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Super PurpleCat on December 24, 2012, 12:58:58 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Panjandrum on December 24, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
The win against Florida raised our RPI from 130 to 68!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BostonPancake on December 24, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)

 :lol:  This is a true gem.
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: felix rex on December 24, 2012, 05:40:37 PM
"Buy in or Quit" doesn't seem appropriate. More like "Buy in or I'll be disappointed, want some peanut brittle?"  But, it just may work....

Buy in or I'll eat myself to sleep.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: JimmyChitwood on December 24, 2012, 06:18:50 PM
(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/h_munster/Weberxmas_zps5f3a7b8c.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: AbeFroman on December 24, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
Gee, guys.  Maybe the media isn't biased against us after all and will talk about us if we actually rough ridin' win against a good noncon team for once.

The media LOVES oscar!

Yep. There is a reason the football team gets no love, but the basketball team does. The media hates snyder for not kissing their ass
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kim carnes on December 24, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/h_munster/Weberxmas_zps5f3a7b8c.jpg)

those poor girls
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cherrysun on December 24, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
 :ksu: Great! Guys and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on December 24, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)

never doubted him for a second

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: p1k3 on December 24, 2012, 08:26:25 PM
fan has been on fire lately!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 24, 2012, 09:10:07 PM
(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab266/h_munster/Weberxmas_zps5f3a7b8c.jpg)

those poor girls
Stop being a creeper dude.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: OregonSmock on December 25, 2012, 12:32:22 AM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)


God, I love this place.  Merry Christmas!


Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on December 25, 2012, 01:14:05 AM
Merry Christmas, Beems
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on December 26, 2012, 09:11:30 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/middle (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/middle)

Katz for the Cats  :surprised:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: OK_Cat on December 26, 2012, 09:24:06 AM
will beating florida hurt is in the long run?

(yes)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on December 26, 2012, 09:45:15 AM
possible luke but confirmed stud and fake tanner Gary Parrish is all EMAW right now

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ZappaCat on December 26, 2012, 09:58:33 AM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)


God, I love this place.  Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Beams!
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)
 :tsc:
Maybe someone can make a Weber / Self combo fistpump guy?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on December 26, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Based on the other few polls I looked at, Katz may be soley responsible for us being in the Top 25.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Boom Roasted on December 26, 2012, 12:36:56 PM
possible luke but confirmed stud and fake tanner Gary Parrish is all EMAW right now

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt)

Good points about losses to 2 good teams and a win over a good one.  Still not convinced though if you watch us play.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 01, 2013, 12:31:45 PM
http://www.thebracketblog.com/

Quote
The Wildcats enter the Power 16 thanks to last weekend's win over Florida.  With their only losses coming to Michigan and Gonzaga, oscar Weber's team now has a signature win to add to it's profile as they enter Big 12 season as the prime challengers to rival Kansas' reign.

 :eye:
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: felix rex on January 01, 2013, 12:37:42 PM
Oh man. Better put your BBSn' gloves on. It's gonna be a wild winter.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2013, 12:42:36 PM
http://www.thebracketblog.com/

Quote
prime challengers.

 :eye:

sniff, sniff... I smell a slightly mod'd _FAN t-shirt.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2013, 01:24:22 PM
http://www.thebracketblog.com/

Quote
prime challengers.

 :eye:

sniff, sniff... I smell a slightly mod'd _FAN t-shirt.

Oh yes pleez.  Maybe with oscar's face?!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 01, 2013, 02:10:18 PM
 :lol: ku is going to beat us by 50

I've seen enough of Weber's bullshit that I want him dead...yesterday
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: JKEYS on January 02, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)

 :lol:  This is a true gem.

Hadn't seen that until now...instant LOL!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21509386/updated-top-25-and-one

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kat Kid on January 06, 2013, 09:43:09 PM
(http://urbanpeanut.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/600px-i-12-svg.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 06, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
I'm starting to buy into the "college basketball is down" talking point.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2013, 09:49:27 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2013, 09:53:00 PM
I would rush to the arc and jump/side bump rod right now if someone would call a time out.

Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SdK on January 06, 2013, 10:07:44 PM
 :love:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 06, 2013, 10:15:51 PM
what? you've got to be rough ridin' kidding me..
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2013, 10:16:40 PM
# 10  :D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 07, 2013, 12:16:22 AM
Hopefully we break into the top 20
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2013, 12:23:39 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21509386/updated-top-25-and-one

 :horrorsurprise:

It's too bad or actual ranking won't actually reflect that, I hate being one loss away from being unranked.

I'm starting to buy into the "college basketball is down" talking point.

Whenever someone says this it usually means that there isn't one or two dominant teams at the top of the poll, or the dominant teams are unexpected.  This doesn't effect teams 5-318.  I don't agree CBB is down & if I were Michigan I'd be pissed.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: AbeFroman on January 07, 2013, 10:56:51 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21509386/updated-top-25-and-one

 :horrorsurprise:

Goodman is a big proponent of using head to head as a tiebreaker for teams with similar records. So sandwiched between Gonzaga and Florida is about right.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5X9QPXBi3ss/TtrUFSP4D3I/AAAAAAAAAps/fkesS3qhLu0/s1600/numbers18.png)

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 07, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
18th in AP.  Dick Weiss, what a loser. Chuck Carlton = stud.

http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,0/w,10/
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 07, 2013, 12:13:36 PM
23 in Coaches  :angry:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
Dick Weiss, what a loser.

Especially when he has Florida at 11...

and Oklahoma State at 20.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2013, 12:15:51 PM
Lead Good Voter:     Chuck Carlton
Lead Bad Voter:     Dick Weiss
 


Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 07, 2013, 12:22:18 PM
18 with an attitude
or 19 kinda snotty acting real rude
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 07, 2013, 12:24:44 PM
Keegan  :lol:

http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,V/s,22/t1,42/t2,/v,62/w,10/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,V/s,22/t1,42/t2,/v,62/w,10/)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 07, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
Chuck's EMAW is showing  :D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 07, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
Not that the ESPN power poll matters much (and we're #24) but what surprised me is Seth Greenburg is now carrying the torch for EMAW Nation by having us at 15 vs. Katz's 18.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
Mods, someone slap #18 on top of the PAK head, please.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 12:46:35 PM
Not that the ESPN power poll matters much (and we're #24) but what surprised me is Seth Greenburg is now carrying the torch for EMAW Nation by having us at 15 vs. Katz's 18.  :sdeek:

Who the eff is this Gasaway character?  Florida at #8 and Kansas State out?  Ohio State at #13 and Illinois at #18?  Goddamned Kentucky at #10?  What a rough ridin' dunce. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2013, 12:57:50 PM
Mods, someone slap #18 on top of the PAK head, please.

will have to wait until chingon comes off furlough.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 07, 2013, 01:20:01 PM
5th time in 6 years that we have been ranked in the top 20 at some point during the season.  This is a trend i would love to see continue
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
Who the eff is this Gasaway character?

i think he's an illinois fan.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 02:16:31 PM
Who the eff is this Gasaway character?

i think he's an illinois fan.

Clearly he hates Illinois sys, clearly.  Definitely an anti-Illini agenda in the works for Mr. Gasaway.  I'm just waiting to see what his end-game is. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: AbeFroman on January 07, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
Not that the ESPN power poll matters much (and we're #24) but what surprised me is Seth Greenburg is now carrying the torch for EMAW Nation by having us at 15 vs. Katz's 18.  :sdeek:

Duh, we beat his pud team's ass two years in a row. He's our bitch and he likes it.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
Clearly he hates Illinois sys, clearly.  Definitely an anti-Illini agenda in the works for Mr. Gasaway.  I'm just waiting to see what his end-game is.

self hate, the worst kind of hate.

Quote
Those of you that have been around for a while will remember John Gasaway as the Big Ten Wonk while those of you that haven’t are certainly familiar with his work at Basketball Prospectus and ESPN Insider. We figured there wasn’t a better time to pick Gasaway’s brain than the Friday before Michigan’s first match-up with his alma mater, Illinois.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 03:09:10 PM
Clearly he hates Illinois sys, clearly.  Definitely an anti-Illini agenda in the works for Mr. Gasaway.  I'm just waiting to see what his end-game is.

self hate, the worst kind of hate.

Quote
Those of you that have been around for a while will remember John Gasaway as the Big Ten Wonk while those of you that haven’t are certainly familiar with his work at Basketball Prospectus and ESPN Insider. We figured there wasn’t a better time to pick Gasaway’s brain than the Friday before Michigan’s first match-up with his alma mater, Illinois.

He just needs time probably.  I was pretty angry over that Purdue loss too.  Brought me right back.  He's probably just venting, but is still a pretty substantial dumbass given the rest of his rankings.  For every Mr Bread there are at least 100 Gasaways.  It's a sad truth about Illinois. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
possible luke but confirmed stud and fake tanner Gary Parrish is all EMAW right now

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21450009/poll-attacks-what-up-michael-hunt)

Glorious stud Gary carries on doing the lord's work. :love:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21511877/poll-attacks-you-have-illinois-ranked-behind-who-and-who-and-who (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21511877/poll-attacks-you-have-illinois-ranked-behind-who-and-who-and-who)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2013, 03:53:28 PM
Randy isn't buying it!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 04:04:51 PM
He just needs time probably.  I was pretty angry over that Purdue loss too.  Brought me right back.  He's probably just venting, but is still a pretty substantial dumbass given the rest of his rankings.  For every Mr Bread there are at least 100 Gasaways.  It's a sad truth about Illinois.

beating the crap out of osu should have been just the salve his purdue butthurt needed, so i don't know where he's going with this crap.  sounds like a dumbass, like you said, but maybe even dumbassier.  jmo.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2013, 05:14:39 PM
Dick Weiss, what a loser.

Especially when he has Florida at 11...

and Oklahoma State at 20.

his ballot is a complete embarrassment
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 07, 2013, 07:50:38 PM
Guys, we gotta get a creative photoshop of our glorious ranking at the top of the page!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2013, 07:53:34 PM
I never thought we'd have butthurt rankings discussions about basketball.
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2013, 08:15:22 PM
I never thought we'd have butthurt rankings discussions about basketball.
we aren't
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
I never thought we'd have butthurt rankings discussions about basketball.
we aren't

 :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 13, 2013, 10:10:47 PM
Bball rankings come out on Mondays right?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ednksu on January 13, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
Bball rankings come out on Mondays right?  :dunno:
usually around noon cst.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on January 13, 2013, 10:30:04 PM
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 14, 2013, 12:48:41 AM
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)
  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2013, 06:09:54 AM
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)

Why wait?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21551341/updated-top-25-and-one
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on January 14, 2013, 07:08:48 AM
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)

Why wait?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21551341/updated-top-25-and-one

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2013, 07:50:03 AM
After these next 3 wins we will be top 10 :)

Why wait?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21551341/updated-top-25-and-one

COME ON 'VERINES!!!
LET'S GO 'ZAGS!!!
GET 'EM GATORS!!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 14, 2013, 10:01:57 AM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 14, 2013, 11:17:53 AM
rankings come out around noonish, right?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 14, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

Joe Lunardi is a dumbass
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2013, 11:40:22 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

Joe Lunardi is a dumbass

Looks like ESPN voters are as conflicted, confused, and divided about the KSU cats as KSU cats fans are.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 14, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
Joe's an idiot. Gonzaga, Michigan and Florida all in the top 10, but K-State is unranked. How do you even explain that?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 14, 2013, 11:55:57 AM
#16
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 14, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
#16

chip on shoulder
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 14, 2013, 11:59:40 AM
#16

chip on shoulder

yep. For some reason I thought we'd for sure be top 15. Oh well. Don't care, go cats.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 14, 2013, 12:04:50 PM
#16

chip on shoulder

yep. For some reason I thought we'd for sure be top 15. Oh well. Don't care, go cats.

let the haters motivate us
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 14, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,11/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,11/)

Keegan  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: AbeFroman on January 14, 2013, 12:10:29 PM
Chuck Carlton  :love:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 14, 2013, 12:10:30 PM
Looking strictly at our resume, I don't know how we aren't in the top 15 on every single person's ballot. Should probably be in the 10-12 range.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2013, 12:11:44 PM
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,11/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,11/)

Keegan  :shakesfist:

lol, what a dork. after we lose to KU by 17 he'll have us at #8
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 12:12:21 PM
good to see mine and _FAN's PI'ing of Dick Weiss woke him up
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2013, 12:31:36 PM
18 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
So when oscar shocks the hawks at home we go straight to #1?
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 14, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
So when oscar shocks the hawks at home we go straight to #1?
12
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 12:52:43 PM
devilcats are going to crash and burn w/o ryan kelly, such an underrated stud.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SEK_EMAW on January 14, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Looking forward to this pic in the forum header at some point. :love:

(http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2013/01/12/16/57/Fsgs3.St.81.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 14, 2013, 01:06:20 PM
EMAW and EMAJ are the only Big 12 teams in top 40.   :sdeek:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 14, 2013, 01:23:59 PM
EMAW and EMAJ are the only Big 12 teams in top 40.   :sdeek:

OSU 35 in coaches
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 14, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
EMAW and EMAJ are the only Big 12 teams in top 40.   :sdeek:

What a great week for :tsc:. Every man a Jaycat!!!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
Pretty much this league has become the Big 2 and the Little 8. What a bunch of hoops losers in Texas.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzified on January 14, 2013, 02:36:41 PM
So did oscar inherit a better team than he left? Or did Illinois just eff it up worse the Currie?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 14, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
So did oscar inherit a better team than he left? Or did Illinois just eff it up worse the Currie?

Illinois has some better wins on their resume than we do (Ohio St and @ Zaga).  Also have a bad loss (Purdue) and a couple games where they were flat blown out by mediocre teams.  Haven't seen them play, but I would guess toughness/dealing with adversity is an issue looking at that.  When they get down, they fold.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 03:19:01 PM
oscar just wasn't cut out for the Big 10.
he's going to blossom like a wild orchid in heat here in the b12 though, a place more tuned to his style of play.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wazucat on January 14, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
oscar just wasn't cut out for the Big 10.
he's going to blossom like a wild orchid in heat here in the b12 though, a place more tuned to his style of play.

 :barf:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
a wild orchid in heat, wazucat, a wild orchid in heat, son
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
So did oscar inherit a better team than he left? Or did Illinois just eff it up worse the Currie?

Illinois has some better wins on their resume than we do (Ohio St and @ Zaga).  Also have a bad loss (Purdue) and a couple games where they were flat blown out by mediocre teams.  Haven't seen them play, but I would guess toughness/dealing with adversity is an issue looking at that.  When they get down, they fold.

This.  They completely quit on oscar last season knowing full well he was going to get canned because of it.  This group of seniors has been thoroughly vetted as FPs.  This season looks to be heading in the same direction as last.  Good in nonconference (i.e., start unranked and work themselves into the top 25) and then completely fall apart once the Big Ten slate starts.  I hate them. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: chum1 on January 14, 2013, 03:47:34 PM
REVELATION:  THERE IS NOTHING oscar OR ANY COACH COULD HAVE DONE AT ILLINOIS. oscar WAS ALWAYS A GREAT COACH STUCK IN A NO WIN SITUATION.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: puniraptor on January 14, 2013, 03:48:42 PM
REVELATION:  THERE IS NOTHING oscar OR ANY COACH COULD HAVE DONE AT ILLINOIS. oscar WAS ALWAYS A GREAT COACH STUCK IN A NO WIN SITUATION.

 :horrorsurprise: :runaway:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
REVELATION:  THERE IS NOTHING oscar OR ANY COACH COULD HAVE DONE AT ILLINOIS. oscar WAS ALWAYS A GREAT COACH STUCK IN A NO WIN SITUATION.

He recruited them.  It's still his fault. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 14, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
 :excited:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 14, 2013, 04:13:40 PM
Guys...............… :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: jmlynch1 on January 14, 2013, 04:23:01 PM
Oh, this could get embarassing for Testy Westy :clac:
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 14, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
eff.

I really dislike having to reconsider things.  I hope it doesn't come to that.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
what if oscar is a total badass?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 14, 2013, 05:07:30 PM
what if oscar is a total badass?
steve dave tweeted this and it's true, what if?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
what if oscar is a total badass?
steve dave tweeted this and it's true, what if?

Well he has managed to become a multi-millionaire coaching basketball despite appearing to be a total dufus pud and six straight years of middling to poor results.  That takes some doing.  Certainly a possible display of bad assery to get paid millions to both simultaneously not coach somewhere and to coach somewhere.  Total boss stud move?  Definitely.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on January 14, 2013, 05:34:01 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 14, 2013, 05:35:36 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
 

Leave
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2013, 05:36:02 PM
everyone just calm the eff down
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on January 14, 2013, 05:37:55 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
 

Leave

I think I'll stay.  I also think I'll continue to watch the games and grasp some kind of general idea of what's going on, which you apparently haven't done.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2013, 05:58:57 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.
 

Leave

I think I'll stay.  I also think I'll continue to watch the games and grasp some kind of general idea of what's going on, which you apparently haven't done.

A reverse trolling if I've ever seen one. :ohno: :runaway: :surprised:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 14, 2013, 06:04:45 PM
what if oscar is a total badass?
steve dave tweeted this and it's true, what if?

Wow, steve dave stole something from me. Really wish he would have been an option for "most pud poster" in the most recent poll. It wouldn't even have been close.

Knock, knock
Who's there?
steve dave
steve dave who?
steve dave from goEMAW
steve dave from goEMAW who?
You know, the pud poster.....
OH, STEVE DAVE!!! GET OFF MY PORCH YOU PUDLY BASTARD!!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 14, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
I think I'll stay.  I also think I'll continue to watch the games and grasp some kind of general idea of what's going on, which you apparently haven't done.

You're right.  Haven't done any of that, it's just blind hatred coming from ol' 8mp over here. 

The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.

Do go on?  Why is this?  Was he handcuffed by something that kept him from recruiting and coaching to the best of his ability?  He won one NCAA tournament game in the last 6 years.  1.  In the last 5 years, K-State has won 6 NCAA games. At Illinois they missed the NIT twice in the last 5 years and missed the NCAA 3 out of the last 5.  Yet we are supposed to discount his long-term failures because he had success nearly a decade ago with a guy who is a top 5 NBA point guard and 4 other NBA players, that he didn't recruit.

I know you are new, and I don't know if you've been a long time lurker or what, but these arguments have been made ad nauseum over the last 9 months.  Almost nothing oscar does this year will change what I expect him to do over the remainder of his time at K-State.  The minimum expectations many had for this team before the year started were either a sweet 16 and top 3 or 4 conference finish, or at the very least a repeat of last year.  Stealing one more game in the tournament and getting to the Elite Eight will not make people "shut up and stop questioning him." At least not intelligent people.  Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2013, 06:14:04 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.

oscar is responsible for 2 really bad seasons and 6 pretty mediocre years of basketball at Illinois. That's not some small sample size and its silly to disregard that. I've been more willing than most to give him a shot, but the bad in his coaching resume can't be easily dismissed.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on January 14, 2013, 06:17:07 PM


 Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.
[/quote]

Is he Coach K?  No, not at all.  But were there many options out there at the time?  I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing.  So what was less worth it?  Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 14, 2013, 06:19:20 PM
Is he Coach K?  No, not at all.  But were there many options out there at the time?  I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing.  So what was less worth it?  Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?

Dude, go through a handful of threads on the basketball board. This conversation happens in every other thread. I don't want it to happen in this thread. This is supposed to be a happy thread. And it's like, probably the last uncorrupted one.
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on January 14, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.

oscar is responsible for 2 really bad seasons and 6 pretty mediocre years of basketball at Illinois. That's not some small sample size and its silly to disregard that. I've been more willing than most to give him a shot, but the bad in his coaching resume can't be easily dismissed.

Last year they started out 15-3 for their first 18 games.  They went 2-12 for their last 14.  I understand that is just one year of several not very good years, but does that kind of trend look like a coaching flaw to you?  Looks more like a player issue.  But thats just from my experience. 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2013, 06:21:17 PM
oscar has always been known around basketball as a tactical genius.  Everyone always points to his only really good season being with Bill Self's players, but doesn't someone have to coach them?  The last couple years at Illinois were not fair representations of oscar's ability to coach.  If he can take this team to the Elite 8, I think people might shut up and stop questioning him.

oscar is responsible for 2 really bad seasons and 6 pretty mediocre years of basketball at Illinois. That's not some small sample size and its silly to disregard that. I've been more willing than most to give him a shot, but the bad in his coaching resume can't be easily dismissed.

Last year they started out 15-3 for their first 18 games.  They went 2-12 for their last 14.  I understand that is just one year of several not very good years, but does that kind of trend look like a coaching flaw to you?  Looks more like a player issue.  But thats just from my experience.

Either way it falls back to the coach because he recruited the players.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 14, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
Is he Coach K?  No, not at all.  But were there many options out there at the time?  I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing.  So what was less worth it?  Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?

Dude, go through a handful of threads on the basketball board. This conversation happens in every other thread. I don't want it to happen in this thread. This is supposed to be a happy thread. And it's like, probably the last uncorrupted one.

Yeah, someone should mod this to the threads that StarsBraves should go back and read. There are at least 50 other threads where several people have argued this to death, so I'll leave it at this: oscar was not the best available coach, he was a failure at a job that was easier than this one.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2013, 06:27:17 PM

Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.

Is he Coach K?  No, not at all.  But were there many options out there at the time?  I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing.  So what was less worth it?  Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?

I echo jakesie and 8mp here.  This is a KSU cats' men's hoops rankings thread not an "I'm a fuckface pud who just discovered gE please explain everything to me" thread.  Read some old threads stupid noob.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on January 14, 2013, 06:31:28 PM

Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.

Is he Coach K?  No, not at all.  But were there many options out there at the time?  I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing.  So what was less worth it?  Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?

I echo jakesie and 8mp here.  This is a KSU cats' men's hoops rankings thread not an "I'm a fuckface pud who just discovered gE please explain everything to me" thread.  Read some old threads stupid noob.  :thumbs:

Because I'm the one who brought up oscar, right?  You can't even read this thread, why should I go read the others?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 14, 2013, 06:55:13 PM
goddamnit. do this in another thread StarsBravesKSU. tia
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rock Lobster on January 14, 2013, 07:15:32 PM

Ask Bread and other intelligent Illini if hiring oscar was worth it.

Is he Coach K?  No, not at all.  But were there many options out there at the time?  I'm not sure what side you are on, but I've seen a lot of Frank bashing, as well as a lot of oscar bashing.  So what was less worth it?  Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy, or hiring the best available coach?

I echo jakesie and 8mp here.  This is a KSU cats' men's hoops rankings thread not an "I'm a fuckface pud who just discovered gE please explain everything to me" thread.  Read some old threads stupid noob.  :thumbs:

Because I'm the one who brought up oscar, right?  You can't even read this thread, why should I go read the others?

STFU or you'll be seeing STARS after I hit you with a BRAVES tomahawk chop! Go KSU!
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy

So dumb, so dumb, so dumb, SO! He's climbin in yo windows, snatchin yo people up
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kim carnes on January 14, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
I've had it to here with this stars guy.
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 14, 2013, 08:55:20 PM
Running Frank out of town for being a strict guy

So dumb, so dumb, so dumb, SO! He's climbin in yo windows, snatchin yo people up
So, hide yo players, hide yo coaches, and hide yo familes cus he kickin errbody out 'here
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: purplehaze on January 20, 2013, 01:50:30 PM
SO BACK ON TOPIC K?

How highly ranked do you think we could be tomorrow? 6 of the 8 teams ahead of us lost, and MSU is the only team that could jump us. I'd be pumped if we got to 12 in the AP.

 :bball:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2013, 01:54:11 PM
I think 12 would be a stretch but not impossible.  Most likely 13-14, imo
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 20, 2013, 02:04:44 PM
I'm thinking 13
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 20, 2013, 02:15:27 PM
SO BACK ON TOPIC K?

How highly ranked do you think we could be tomorrow? 6 of the 8 teams ahead of us lost, and MSU is the only team that could jump us. I'd be pumped if we got to 12 in the AP.

 :bball:

"poll frauds" - Joe Lunardi
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 20, 2013, 04:50:33 PM
Ohio St, Creighton, NC St and SDSt (# 11, 12, 14,15) all lost. We move ahead of these 4
#9 Minnesota lost at home but to Michigan
#18 Mich St beat #11 Ohio St, but they were almost 250 points behind us, so i dont think they leapfrog us

So i think we will be 11 or 12.  Probably 12
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 20, 2013, 04:55:22 PM
Nc state beat duke I doubt we jump them.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 20, 2013, 04:58:19 PM
Nc state beat duke I doubt we jump them.

they had a horrendous loss last week
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on January 20, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
they had a horrendous loss last week

 :curse:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 20, 2013, 05:06:05 PM
NC St beat Duke last Saturday.   They lost to Maryland this week.  So we will leap them
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 20, 2013, 05:08:07 PM
they had a horrendous loss last week

 :curse:

Sorry bud, your turtles have been bad lately.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on January 20, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Sorry bud, your turtles have been bad lately.

wait till next year.  turgeon will build a monster.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 21, 2013, 09:19:18 AM
10-4 good buddy! (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/top25) (not AP/coaches)

 :ksu:

 :dance:

 :emawkid:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img560/1323/bruceimplode.gif)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
SO BACK ON TOPIC K?

How highly ranked do you think we could be tomorrow? 6 of the 8 teams ahead of us lost, and MSU is the only team that could jump us. I'd be pumped if we got to 12 in the AP.

 :bball:

"poll frauds" - Joe Lunardi

Lundardi has Creighton above us.  Their best and only decent win is Wisconsin.  He doesn't know WTF he is talking about.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 21, 2013, 11:36:21 AM
11
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 21, 2013, 11:37:07 AM
14 in the Power Rankings.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 21, 2013, 11:42:00 AM
11
  :horrorsurprise:  :excited:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 21, 2013, 11:42:43 AM
14 in the Power Rankings.

Lutardi  :dubious:

Greenberg  :love:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 21, 2013, 11:44:15 AM
Pretty sweet. We have been ranked in top 20 in each of the last 4 seasons, and now have been ranked in the top 11 in 3 of the last 4 years.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
11
  :horrorsurprise:  :excited:

If the mods gave a crap about basketball, maybe we could get something like this in the banner: (http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/17/23/24/4011321/3/628x471.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
13 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 21, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
13 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)

Holy balls the coaches are so  :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.

#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
13 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)

Holy balls the coaches are so  :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.

#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB

We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2013, 12:35:01 PM
13 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)

Holy balls the coaches are so  :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.

#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB

We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.

He's talking about Creighton, smart guy.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2013, 12:37:34 PM
13 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)

Holy balls the coaches are so  :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.

#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB

We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.

He's talking about Creighton, smart guy.

 :angry: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 21, 2013, 12:45:57 PM
13 in coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches)

Holy balls the coaches are so  :opcat: ranking Creighton ahead of us after a loss to WSU.

#17 in AP and #12 in coaches, GMAFB

We're #11 in the AP, smart guy.

He's talking about Creighton, smart guy.
(http://www.coolmarriedguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/smart-guy.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 21, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
:blah: :blah:  GRAD SCHOOL  :blah: :blah:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CatMission on January 21, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
This may be the worst ballot in the history of the basketball poll. 

http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,V/s,22/t1,57/t2,/v,126/w,12/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,V/s,22/t1,57/t2,/v,126/w,12/)
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
:blah: :blah:  GRAD SCHOOL  :blah: :blah:

 :lol:

God dammit it's a sad day in the life of 8mp when I get out-BBSed by KKK. In my defense, he isn't actually an idiot IRL.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21620060/updated-top-25-and-one
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 10:59:07 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

Fran.  :cry:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pvegs on January 28, 2013, 11:20:38 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

Fran.  :cry:

21st seems extremely fair after that week.  Good to know 2 wins this week has us right back in the thick of things (both in the minds of the pollsters and in the confy standings).
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on January 28, 2013, 11:24:03 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

Fran.  :cry:

21st seems extremely fair after that week.  Good to know 2 wins this week has us right back in the thick of things (both in the minds of the pollsters and in the confy standings).

I figured we'd drop to 20.  But sonuvabitch, we've played #1 (L), #2 (L), #3 (W) and #7 (L) in that poll.  We ought to be ready when the tournament rolls around.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 11:26:16 AM
I really miss Frankuary
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on January 28, 2013, 11:32:36 AM
I really miss Frankuary

you're thinking of FrankRuary. we actually sucked balls in Frankuary.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 11:37:30 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/polls/

(http://yogabellystudio.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/21.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
I think Michigan> ku, we'll take all we can get for the conference though, whatevs
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ednksu on January 28, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/polls/

(http://yogabellystudio.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/21.jpg)
do we need a rankings banner like we had for football?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 28, 2013, 11:43:43 AM
Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2013, 11:44:03 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/polls/

(http://yogabellystudio.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/21.jpg)

MU ranked above us.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2013, 11:44:40 AM
Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.

Could end up being the outlier that makes ppl not fully able from dismissing us. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 11:47:41 AM
Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.

Could end up being the outlier that makes ppl not fully able from dismissing us. 

Maybe, but its not like we have a bad loss yet either. ISU was disappointing, but (at this point in time) it wasn't a bad loss. We need more good wins, but right now we are in really good shape and deserving of Top 25.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cork_sniffer on January 28, 2013, 11:51:28 AM
losing to the #1 team by a few points at home shouldn't cause your team to drop that much. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2013, 11:52:21 AM
losing to the #1 team by a few points at home shouldn't cause your team to drop that much.

Yep, it was the stench of stagnant flood water that we were recently swirlied in. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 28, 2013, 11:53:07 AM
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 11:54:03 AM
losing to the #1 team by a few points at home shouldn't cause your team to drop that much.

Iowa State is always going to be viewed as a small timey nobody by voters.  Losing to them hurts because they are a mid-major like program
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 11:56:07 AM
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.

Of course they are, that's why they are fun (when your team is good enough to be in them).

I mean its hard to argue Miami shouldn't be ranked where they are considering their last 7 games and the fact they have a 2 game lead in the ACC.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 28, 2013, 11:56:34 AM
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.

no.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on January 28, 2013, 11:57:38 AM
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.

no.
YES!  :curse:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 28, 2013, 11:58:58 AM
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.

Of course they are, that's why they are fun (when your team is good enough to be in them).

I mean its hard to argue Miami shouldn't be ranked where they are considering their last 7 games and the fact they have a 2 game lead in the ACC.

Sure, they should be ranked, but c'mon. They're ranked because they slaughtered Duke at home, not because they have a 2 game lead in a garbage ACC. Everyone and their mother knows they are going to choke that lead away as soon as they play some tough road games.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2013, 11:59:43 AM
Rankings are such garbage. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Is Miami really a top 15 team? Hell no. Were we really a top 15 team? Maybe.

no.
YES!  :curse:

Definitely belong in the discussion given the rest of those teams and how often everyone else is losing too. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 12:31:34 PM
AP:(http://spulberica.weblog.ro/usercontent/16/16621/18.jpg)

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 28, 2013, 12:36:47 PM
Where would we be without that Florida win? That's looking huge.

Could end up being the outlier that makes ppl not fully able from dismissing us.

I'd say it's very comparable to how Mississippi must have felt about the K-State win at this point in the season in 09-10.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 12:38:12 PM
3 OOC opponents in top 7, so at least we have that going for us, which is nice
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2013, 01:03:49 PM
miami is really good. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 01:39:10 PM
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,13/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,13/)
Team report: Kansas State   

Week 13: Jan. 28, 2013
Last updated: Jan. 28, 2013 -- 1:31 PM


 
Poll: AP Ballots Men BB 12-13
Sport: Men Basketball 12-13

 Voter   Rank 
 Joey Johnston   10 
 Jason Franchuk   12 
 Paul Zeise   13 
 Hugh Kellenberger   14 
 Doug Haller   15 
 John McNamara   15 
 Jon Wilner   15 
 Percy Allen   15 
 Ron Morris   15 
 Steve Wiseman   15 
 Adam Jude   16 
 Bret Strelow   16 
 Cormac Gordon   16 
 Kevin Brockway   16 
 Lamond Pope   16 
 Marcus Jackson   16 
 Mark Berman   16 
 Eric Sprott   17 
 Matt McCoy   17 
 Matt Vautour   17 
 Rod Beard   17 
 Scott Reid   17 
 Terry Toohey   17 
 Blair Kerkoff   18 
 Chuck Carlton   18 
 Dick Vitale   18 
 Jason Smith   18 
 Jerry Carino   18 
 Kevin McNamara   18 
 Michael Hunt   18 
 Mitch Vingle   18 
 Randy Rosetta   18 
 Ryan Wood   18 
 Scott Wolf   18 
 Tim Griffin   18 
 Andrew Carter   19 
 C.L. Brown   19 
 Ed Graney   19 
 Elton Alexander   19 
 Kelly Hines   19 
 Roger Clarkson   19 
 Chris Dachille   20 
 J.P. Butler   20 
 Joe Juliano   20 
 Geoff Grammer   21 
 John Bohnenkamp   21 
 Seth Davis   21 
 Steve Pivovar   21 
 Tom Keegan   21 
 David Southorn   22 
 Kevin Dunleavy   22 
 Steve Layman   22 
 Tim Pearrell   22 
 Bob Holt   23 
 Jim Benson   23 
 John Werner   23 
 Steve DeShazo   23 
 Terry Hutchens   23 
 Dave Borges   24 
 Fletcher Mackel   24 
 Scott Mansch   24 
 Dick Weiss   unranked 
 Joel Erickson   unranked 
 John Feinstein   unranked 
 Ryan Thorburn   unranked 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 01:42:10 PM
good to see mine and _FAN's PI'ing of Dick Weiss woke him up

Dick Weiss   unranked 

I bet Weiss feels some sort of validation.

 :angry:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
lol @ Joey Johnston having us highest and Gonzaga lowest
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 01:46:57 PM
Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo   :D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 01:50:11 PM
Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo   :D

Like Iowa State beating us, having the same Big 12 record, and barely getting votes...  :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 28, 2013, 01:58:15 PM
Yeah, Joey Johnston is adorable.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
good to see mine and _FAN's PI'ing of Dick Weiss woke him up

Dick Weiss   unranked 

I bet Weiss feels some sort of validation.

 :angry:

damn you dick weiss.  damn you.  we'll get the last laugh though.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 28, 2013, 04:21:18 PM
miami is really good.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 04, 2013, 09:14:09 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/top25

Also of note, the win over OU moved the Cats up to around #24 in most of the RPIs that are out there, the NCAA puts out their current official one later today.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 04, 2013, 11:55:37 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/15_home_video.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on February 04, 2013, 12:04:34 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/season/2013/week/14 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/season/2013/week/14)


Bilas  :dubious:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 04, 2013, 12:09:02 PM
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2013, 12:14:42 PM
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.

Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on February 04, 2013, 12:15:24 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/season/2013/week/14 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/season/2013/week/14)


Bilas  :dubious:

Or Eamonn Brennan for that matter, always thought he kinda liked us.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on February 04, 2013, 12:16:19 PM
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.

Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:

I would bet he hasn't even watched us this year
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2013, 12:19:16 PM
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.

Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:

I would bet he hasn't even watched us this year

He knows our roster and how we play, regardless.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 04, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
SLAP IN THE FACE!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on February 04, 2013, 12:21:23 PM
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,14/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,14/)

Dick Weiss starting to come around even  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on February 04, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.

Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:

I would bet he hasn't even watched us this year

He knows our roster and how we play, regardless.

Bilas can GTFOOMF, regardless.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SEK_EMAW on February 04, 2013, 12:22:08 PM
I don't understand how you could look at our resume and not have us ranked.

Bilas was complaining on his broadcast this weekend about how physical and ugly cbb has gotten, and about how it sucks to watch and needs to be rectified. Maybe he's using K-State as his punching bag for that frustration. :dunno:

You might be on to something...might explain why he has VCU at 15

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 04, 2013, 12:26:31 PM
that is hilariously bad bilas.

KSU has 4 losses, is alone at 2nd place in the Big 12, beat your #2 and #16, lost to your #3, #4, and #7, & RPI #40, but nope gotta make room for:

a 5-loss Marquette team that lost to Green Bay earlier this season and just got blown out by 19 points at Louisville

an Oregon team that previously lost to UTEP and just lost TWICE last week to unranked teams with a combined 16 losses

a 6-loss NC State team that just lost TWICE last week

a 5-loss UNLV team that just lost to Boise State, and all 5 of their losses are to unranked teams

a 4-loss Butler teams whose four losses are to Xavier, Illinois, La Salle, and (this week) SLU

and best of all

an 8-loss Indiana State team that just lost to Drake, and includes losses to Morehead State, San Diego State, Southern Illinois, and Illinois State
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 04, 2013, 12:27:14 PM
13 in the AP.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 04, 2013, 12:32:01 PM
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,14/ (http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,T/s,22/t1,42/v,/w,14/)

Dick Weiss starting to come around even  :thumbsup:

I think he has had us unranked, #18, unranked, #16 in recent weeks.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2013, 01:08:26 PM
don't worry about dick weiss, you guys. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 04, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
#15 in Coaches.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2013, 01:17:35 PM
Bilas is #burnitdown, clearly. I can respect that.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on February 04, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2013, 01:56:33 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

Like the one we just had?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: gokatgo on February 04, 2013, 01:57:35 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

I would like to hear this argument
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on February 04, 2013, 01:59:06 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

Like the one we just had?

Yes.  I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 04, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kitten_mittons on February 04, 2013, 02:01:21 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

I would like to hear this argument
EDIT: What fanning said.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 04, 2013, 02:03:29 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.

T Dreiling about had to make an infographic.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2013, 02:10:57 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.

I don't see that tweet.
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kitten_mittons on February 04, 2013, 02:15:57 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.

I don't see that tweet.
Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) tweeted at 1:08 PM on Mon, Feb 04, 2013:
@TylerDreiling Chill, bro. Just a mistake. Polls are for suckers. The Bilas Index is the definitive word, and the last word.
(https://twitter.com/JayBilas/status/298508459501039616)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2013, 02:19:26 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.

I don't see that tweet.
Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) tweeted at 1:08 PM on Mon, Feb 04, 2013:
@TylerDreiling Chill, bro. Just a mistake. Polls are for suckers. The Bilas Index is the definitive word, and the last word.
(https://twitter.com/JayBilas/status/298508459501039616)

Thanks. My feed was on "No Replies" for some odd reason. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 04, 2013, 02:19:40 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.

T Dreiling about had to make an infographic.

:lol:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 04, 2013, 02:33:48 PM
D. Scott Fritchen ?@DScottFritchen
How about K-State at No. 13??? Only the 2nd time K-State has been Top 15 in February since after Mitch Richmond's senior season in 1987-88.

D. Scott Fritchen ?@DScottFritchen
Prior to Monday, K-State was ranked No. 14 to start Feb. 1988 and at No. 10 to start Feb. 2010. So it's the 2nd time in the last 24 years.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 04, 2013, 02:50:25 PM
Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo   :D

Like Iowa State beating us, having the same Big 12 record, and barely getting votes...  :bwpopcorn:

CycloneFanatic is pretty sure they will be ranked after beating us in Manhattan this Sat
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on February 04, 2013, 02:52:18 PM
Trolling team's fanbases with your rankings would be loads of fun imo   :D

Like Iowa State beating us, having the same Big 12 record, and barely getting votes...  :bwpopcorn:

CycloneFanatic is pretty sure they will be ranked after beating us in Manhattan this Sat
We have a pretty decent shot at top 10 after going 2 - 0 this week.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 04, 2013, 03:29:47 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

Like the one we just had?

Yes.  I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.

Orly?  Do you also believe you could probably find a magical unicorn that grants wishes?

When you reference "horrendous home losses" do you mean us and our home loss to RPI #6 KU and...   :dunno:
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 04, 2013, 03:53:31 PM
He said on twitter it was a typo. He didn't mean to leave them out.

I don't see that tweet.
Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) tweeted at 1:08 PM on Mon, Feb 04, 2013:
@TylerDreiling Chill, bro. Just a mistake. Polls are for suckers. The Bilas Index is the definitive word, and the last word.
(https://twitter.com/JayBilas/status/298508459501039616)

This proves that super-douche is much worse than super-tuck. DJDT has the deadly combo of both.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on February 04, 2013, 04:07:29 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

Like the one we just had?

Yes.  I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.

Orly?  Do you also believe you could probably find a magical unicorn that grants wishes?

When you reference "horrendous home losses" do you mean us and our home loss to RPI #6 KU and...   :dunno:

No, I wasn't referring to a bunch of bad losses for us.  The obvious teams that a hypothetical voter might place ahead of us based on a valuing road wins strongly would be Wisconsin and OSU.

We have a weird non-con resume.  We're out of the top 25 in 11 of 25 computer rankings compiled here (http://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm).  Some of those are wackier than others, but whatever, it doesn't seem completely out of this world for someone to vote us at 26-30.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 04, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
You can make an argument for not ranking us, particularly if you put extra weight on road wins, but Bilas is a clown.

Like the one we just had?

Yes.  I am saying that you could probably find 25 teams with more/better road wins than the one we just had, that also don't have horrendous home losses.

Orly?  Do you also believe you could probably find a magical unicorn that grants wishes?

When you reference "horrendous home losses" do you mean us and our home loss to RPI #6 KU and...   :dunno:

No, I wasn't referring to a bunch of bad losses for us.  The obvious teams that a hypothetical voter might place ahead of us based on a valuing road wins strongly would be Wisconsin and OSU.

We have a weird non-con resume.  We're out of the top 25 in 11 of 25 computer rankings compiled here (http://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm).  Some of those are wackier than others, but whatever, it doesn't seem completely out of this world for someone to vote us at 26-30.

The problem with this is K-State has a much better non con resume than most teams 5-25. At this point in the season that would be an insane overreach and just a lame ass excuse for not ranking a team. You could take any individual metric and use just that to show a team isn't top 25 worthy. I would love to hear Eamon's explanation, there simply aren't anywhere close to 25 teams in America with a better profile.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on February 04, 2013, 05:30:37 PM
there simply aren't anywhere close to 25 teams in America with a better profile.

:dunno:

Sagarin has us 24.  Kenpom puts us at 27.  I personally think that we do deserve to be ranked, but the difference between 18, or whatever the goEMAW consensus ranking is, and 26 is pretty marginal.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: hemmy on February 04, 2013, 05:39:46 PM
there simply aren't anywhere close to 25 teams in America with a better profile.

:dunno:

Sagarin has us 24.  Kenpom puts us at 27.  I personally think that we do deserve to be ranked, but the difference between 18, or whatever the goEMAW consensus ranking is, and 26 is pretty marginal.

Rankings have never been nor never will be about ranking teams "best" to "worst"
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 04, 2013, 05:54:09 PM
Rankings are pretty weird. Obviously Butler is good enough to beat anyone, but they also lose games to crappy teams on the reg. We have a great win, but 1-4 against top 10 teams makes us pretty consistent about losing to good teams, and @ISU is by no means a bad loss. So we are a lot better at being consistent. How do determine who is better between us a Butler?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2013, 07:36:57 AM
For reference:

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1356/kstatebbappollhistory.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 05, 2013, 07:40:43 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: puniraptor on February 05, 2013, 07:44:47 AM
That is a very good reference  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 05, 2013, 08:31:15 AM
Did we really go 14 years without being ranked?  :frown:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 05, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
regular season college basketball is pud
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2013, 09:45:22 AM
It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 05, 2013, 09:48:43 AM
That 1958-59 squad was nails, man.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on February 05, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)

Man, we are so pud.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 05, 2013, 09:59:28 AM
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)

AH MY EYES  :runaway:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2013, 10:02:44 AM
It would be helpful to see one where every year is listed regardless if we were ranked or not, just to help realize just how piss poor we were for so many years

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)

Man, we are so pud.

compared to about 10 schools
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2013, 10:26:29 AM
With coaches:

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 05, 2013, 10:29:08 AM
Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 05, 2013, 11:41:20 AM
Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!

That will be difficult to fit on a banner.

....Well, maybe not that difficult......


(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q45/kougar24/KState/nfl-draft-banner.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wabash909 on February 05, 2013, 11:48:59 AM
Did we really go 14 years without being ranked?  :frown:

Yep, and one one week in the rankings away from 19 consecutive years.

Add that to the insanely idiotic shortsightedness of running off Frank.



Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 05, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
With coaches:

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)

Great chart.  "The Dark Ages."
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pvegs on February 05, 2013, 02:13:24 PM
With coaches:

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6291/kstatebbyearlyappollhis.png)

Great chart.  "The Dark Ages."

Does anyone have a favorite "dark ages" season?  I'm pretty fond of 97-98 when we started 9-0 and then gave up 125 at UA (followed by scoring 111 against Mizzou).  95-96 was fun too - we squeaked into the tourney and then lost by 21 because half the roster had the flu.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2013, 03:32:25 PM
Conference Champs in 50,51, 56, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 64, 68, 70, 72, 73, 77

High Rank
50 - 10
51 - 3
56 - 17* only rank in second to last poll
58 - 1
59 - 1
60 - 15
61 - 4
63 - NR
64 - NR
68 - NR
70 - 16
72 - NR
73 - 9* spent most of year in 15-18 range, E8
77 - 16* only ranking in final poll

How the hell do you win the conference championship and not get ranked?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2013, 03:55:54 PM
Does anyone have a favorite "dark ages" season?  I'm pretty fond of 97-98 when we started 9-0 and then gave up 125 at UA (followed by scoring 111 against Mizzou).  95-96 was fun too - we squeaked into the tourney and then lost by 21 because half the roster had the flu.

Yes, 97-98 was hilarious and that game against Mizzou was my absolute favorite game ever. Remember Monte Hardge crying :lol: I also really enjoyed '05-'06, that was a fun team we got screwed out of the postseason big time
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 05, 2013, 03:56:47 PM
We finished the 87-88 season #8 IIRC. Lost to KU in the regional final.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 06, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
We finished the 87-88 season #8 IIRC. Lost to KU in the regional final.

#8 in the Coaches Poll after the tournament.  AP didn't (doesn't?) have a post-NCAA tournament poll.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on February 10, 2013, 09:28:34 PM
We finished the 87-88 season #8 IIRC. Lost to KU in the regional final.

#8 in the Coaches Poll after the tournament.  AP didn't (doesn't?) have a post-NCAA tournament poll.

where will we be tomorrow?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Cire on February 10, 2013, 10:16:11 PM
Why the eff don't we have a 1958 finished the year number one banner painted on the walls oys the fOOD?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on February 10, 2013, 10:36:09 PM
Why the eff don't we have a 1958 finished the year number one banner painted on the walls oys the fOOD?

Can't we give ourselves a fake national title for that?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Benja on February 10, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!

That will be difficult to fit on a banner.

....Well, maybe not that difficult......


(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q45/kougar24/KState/nfl-draft-banner.jpg)

lol. how have i not seen this.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kim carnes on February 10, 2013, 11:03:11 PM
Hey look at that, ranked in Week 8 for four years in a row! Last time that happened that late in the season was 1950-1953!

That will be difficult to fit on a banner.

....Well, maybe not that difficult......


(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q45/kougar24/KState/nfl-draft-banner.jpg)

lol. how have i not seen this.

Because its not real
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on February 10, 2013, 11:44:39 PM
It's in one of the Train videos. Amazing k-stateo.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksucrcoop on February 11, 2013, 11:04:35 AM
AP:
Keyats- 10
KU- 14

State Avg. of #12

 :tsc:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 11, 2013, 11:05:30 AM
Brennan still has us low, #17. 1 spot BEHIND oklahoma St.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on February 11, 2013, 11:05:48 AM
YEAH I SAID IT!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
Didn't Bilas leave us off the last ballot?  Now we're 11(?)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 11, 2013, 11:08:34 AM
Didn't Bilas leave us off the last ballot?  Now we're 11(?)

he admitted it was a lazy error. didnt catch it.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kstate4life on February 11, 2013, 11:14:01 AM
#10 AP!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 11:18:37 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 11, 2013, 11:20:01 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

how are the message boards taking this? finding silver linings?(playing harder, tough, etc)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MadCat on February 11, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
Can statistically still win the SEC, I guess.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

It was always going to take some time there, but that Florida loss was rough ridin' awful.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2013, 11:25:59 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

I feel sorry for Frank. I mean, he gave up a potential conference title for that. Will Frank ever have a shot at a conference title again?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2013, 11:27:43 AM
Oh look another thread turned into a discussion about frank.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2013, 11:28:25 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

I feel sorry for Frank. I mean, he gave up a potential conference title for that. Will Frank ever have a shot at a conference title again?

not until he lands at some pud conference (more pud than the SEC)
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

It was always going to take some time there, but that Florida loss was rough ridin' awful.

The double digit loss to Mark Fox at home would have been worse for me.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on February 11, 2013, 11:29:53 AM
I mean, I like seeing this..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC1vVDkCQAAIzTr.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzified on February 11, 2013, 11:30:05 AM
The visits I've made to their boards, I don't think basketball is much on their radar.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 11, 2013, 11:30:25 AM
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on February 11, 2013, 11:32:57 AM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

I feel sorry for Frank. I mean, he gave up a potential conference title for that. Will Frank ever have a shot at a conference title again?

Maybe we can set up some kind of deal with South Caronlina where we swap coaches every four or five years.  Frank can evaluate talent and give his teams the Residue of Toughness that Fran is always talking about.  And then when the players and administrators get tired of his schtick we swap Weber in to coach em up until we're all soft and mushy again.  Rinse and repeat.  Win-win-win-win.
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on February 11, 2013, 11:51:26 AM
I mean, I like seeing this..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC1vVDkCQAAIzTr.png)
I like that one of Florida's losses is to us.

Sent from my VS950 4G using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on February 11, 2013, 11:53:28 AM
I mean, I like seeing this..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC1vVDkCQAAIzTr.png)
Just feels right to be back on that screen with our fellow bluebloods.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 11, 2013, 12:15:39 PM
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 11, 2013, 12:16:45 PM
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!

Did You Know: This is the 200th week overall KSU has been ranked in the AP Poll.  That's good for 40th in the nation, between Georgia Tech and Stanford.

(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/910200735934PM_nbc_the_more_you_know.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2013, 12:18:11 PM
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!

Did You Know: This is the 200th week overall KSU has been ranked in the AP Poll.  That's good for 40th in the nation, between Georgia Tech and Stanford.

(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/910200735934PM_nbc_the_more_you_know.jpg)



Link?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 11, 2013, 12:19:29 PM
#11 in the Coaches USA Today, KU #13
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2013, 12:20:31 PM
meanwhile, what a goddam idiot:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks

It was always going to take some time there, but that Florida loss was rough ridin' awful.

The double digit loss to Mark Fox at home would have been worse for me.

lol, what an idiot
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SwiftCat on February 11, 2013, 12:21:25 PM
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?

He stuck up for us early in the season until we got beaten by Michigan and Gonzaga. He's probably just butthurt we didn't play well when he wanted us to.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 11, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
GUYS WE'RE TOP 10 AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT FRANK!!!!

Did You Know: This is the 200th week overall KSU has been ranked in the AP Poll.  That's good for 40th in the nation, between Georgia Tech and Stanford.

(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/910200735934PM_nbc_the_more_you_know.jpg)


Link?

This is a fun little website: http://www.collegepollarchive.com/ (http://www.collegepollarchive.com/)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?

our schedule has been ridiculously pud.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EuroCat on February 11, 2013, 12:28:51 PM
I mean, I like seeing this..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC1vVDkCQAAIzTr.png)
Just feels right to be back on that screen with our fellow bluebloods.
All of them, in fact
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2013, 12:35:49 PM
Ku loses to two unranked teams in a wk, three loses in a row, and they drop like 8 spots?  Wtf?

Any other team would be out.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 11, 2013, 12:46:33 PM
Ku loses to two unranked teams in a wk, three loses in a row, and they drop like 8 spots?  Wtf?

Any other team would be out.

You have to consider how many other top 25 teams lost in the last week as well.  Teams were getting beat all over the place.  I did actually think they would be lower though.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on February 11, 2013, 12:55:00 PM
yeah they lost 3, to move to 19-4.... any power conference 19-4 should be ranked.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2013, 12:55:51 PM
yeah they lost 3, to move to 19-4.... any power conference 19-4 should be ranked.

#13, though?

also, rankings is all about what have you done lately, not as much about big picture.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2013, 01:00:25 PM
It was one of the craziest weeks ever in Top 25 basketball.

14 AP Top 25 teams lost at least once last week. 8 losses for 6 Top 10 teams. 6 lost on Saturday, including 2 in the Top 5.

I heard somewhere this weekend that those 14 losses were the most in a week by Top 25 teams since 1949.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 8manpick on February 11, 2013, 01:01:47 PM
yeah they lost 3, to move to 19-4.... any power conference 19-4 should be ranked.

#13, though?

also, rankings is all about what have you done lately, not as much about big picture.

Or maybe it isn't... look at the records compared to the rankings
1   Indiana (26)    21-3   1,559
2   Duke (20)    21-2   1,515
3   Miami (FL) (17)    19-3   1,499
4   Michigan   21-3   1,428
5   Gonzaga (2)    23-2   1,371
6   Syracuse   20-3   1,293
7   Florida   19-3   1,286
8   Michigan State   20-4   1,178
9   Arizona   20-3   1,062
10   Kansas State   19-4   1,012
11   Butler   20-4   943
12   Louisville   19-5   842
13   Ohio State   17-6   828
14   Kansas   19-4   823
15   Georgetown   17-4   679
16   Pittsburgh   20-5   591
17   Oklahoma State   17-5   587
18   Marquette   17-5   493
19   New Mexico   20-4   433
20   Wisconsin   17-7   305
21   Notre Dame   19-5   264
22   Memphis   20-3   193
23   Oregon   19-5   137
24   Colorado State   19-4   125
25   Kentucky   17-6   87
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2013, 01:06:17 PM
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 11, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?

our schedule has been ridiculously pud.

I'm assuming sarcasm. 

Has anybody else in America played 3 top 10 teams?  I'm assuming a few big 10 schools have, but the list has got to be pretty small. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on February 11, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader

If I am looking at his rankings correctly, KSU is 11th based on conference play alone, up from 22 for the whole season.  I would love this more if we weren't behind CSU at 10 and Wisky at 5 in the conference only ranking.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 11, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?

our schedule has been ridiculously pud.

I'm assuming sarcasm. 

Has anybody else in America played 3 top 10 teams?  I'm assuming a few big 10 schools have, but the list has got to be pretty small.

Our schedule strength is 51st, not great but far from ridiculously pud.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2013, 01:18:08 PM
Holy crap kenpom hates us. What's his deal?

our schedule has been ridiculously pud.

I'm assuming sarcasm. 

Has anybody else in America played 3 top 10 teams?  I'm assuming a few big 10 schools have, but the list has got to be pretty small.

Our schedule would be much better had we scheduled better midmajors. The good teams we have played are fine, but there is no reason at all to ever schedule some of the crappy teams we have played.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2013, 01:37:58 PM
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader

That's pretty cool. Somewhat related: the average RPI rank of our four losses is 16, good for 4th in the country

Rank           Team              Avg Loss
1                Duke               10 (#2 Miami, #17 NC State)
23              Ohio State        11 (#1 Duke, #5 Michigan, #9 Michigan State, #10 Kansas, #11 Indiana, #27 Illinois)
9               Michigan State   13 (#2 Miami, #11 Indiana, #13 Minnesota, #24 Connecticut)
22               Kansas State     16 (#5 Michigan, #10 Kansas, #12 Gonzaga, #37 Iowa State)
32              Memphis           20 (#8 Louisville, #13 Minnesota, #39 VCU)
12              Gonzaga           21 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois)
24              Connecticut      22 (#3 New Mexico, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #17 NC State, #30 Pittsburgh, #55 St John's)
5               Michigan           22 (#11 Indiana, #23 Ohio State, #31 Wisconsin)
11              Indiana            24 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois, #31 Wisconsin)
30              Pittsburgh        27 (#5 Michigan, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #35 Cincinnati, #71 Rutgers)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksucrcoop on February 11, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader

That's pretty cool. Somewhat related: the average RPI rank of our four losses is 16, good for 4th in the country

Rank           Team              Avg Loss
1                Duke               10 (#2 Miami, #17 NC State)
23              Ohio State        11 (#1 Duke, #5 Michigan, #9 Michigan State, #10 Kansas, #11 Indiana, #27 Illinois)
9               Michigan State   13 (#2 Miami, #11 Indiana, #13 Minnesota, #24 Connecticut)
22               Kansas State     16 (#5 Michigan, #10 Kansas, #12 Gonzaga, #37 Iowa State)
32              Memphis           20 (#8 Louisville, #13 Minnesota, #39 VCU)
12              Gonzaga           21 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois)
24              Connecticut      22 (#3 New Mexico, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #17 NC State, #30 Pittsburgh, #55 St John's)
5               Michigan           22 (#11 Indiana, #23 Ohio State, #31 Wisconsin)
11              Indiana            24 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois, #31 Wisconsin)
30              Pittsburgh        27 (#5 Michigan, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #35 Cincinnati, #71 Rutgers)

...do this for KU
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 11, 2013, 01:50:03 PM
ISU woof
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2013, 01:54:36 PM
Palm Reader: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader

That's pretty cool. Somewhat related: the average RPI rank of our four losses is 16, good for 4th in the country

Rank           Team              Avg Loss
1                Duke               10 (#2 Miami, #17 NC State)
23              Ohio State        11 (#1 Duke, #5 Michigan, #9 Michigan State, #10 Kansas, #11 Indiana, #27 Illinois)
9               Michigan State   13 (#2 Miami, #11 Indiana, #13 Minnesota, #24 Connecticut)
22               Kansas State     16 (#5 Michigan, #10 Kansas, #12 Gonzaga, #37 Iowa State)
32              Memphis           20 (#8 Louisville, #13 Minnesota, #39 VCU)
12              Gonzaga           21 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois)
24              Connecticut      22 (#3 New Mexico, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #17 NC State, #30 Pittsburgh, #55 St John's)
5               Michigan           22 (#11 Indiana, #23 Ohio State, #31 Wisconsin)
11              Indiana            24 (#14 Butler, #27 Illinois, #31 Wisconsin)
30              Pittsburgh        27 (#5 Michigan, #8 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #35 Cincinnati, #71 Rutgers)
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10              Kansas            69 (#9 Michigan State, #18 Oklahoma State, #26 Oklahoma, #222 TCU)

...do this for KU
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
Updated

Rank           Team              Avg Loss
24              Ohio State        10 (#1 Duke, #5 Michigan, #6 Kansas, #10 Michigan State, #11 Indiana, #26 Illinois)
1                Duke                10 (#2 Miami, #17 NC State)
23                Kansas State     13 (#5 Michigan, #6 Kansas, #6 Kansas, #12 Gonzaga, #37 Iowa State)
10              Michigan State   13 (#2 Miami, #11 Indiana, #13 Minnesota, #25 Connecticut)
32              Memphis           20 (#9 Louisville, #13 Minnesota, #39 VCU)
12              Gonzaga           20 (#14 Butler, #26 Illinois)
25              Connecticut      22 (#3 New Mexico, #9 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #17 NC State, #30 Pittsburgh, #55 St John's)
5               Michigan           22 (#11 Indiana, #24 Ohio State, #31 Wisconsin)
11              Indiana            24 (#14 Butler, #26 Illinois, #31 Wisconsin)
30              Pittsburgh        27 (#5 Michigan, #9 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #35 Cincinnati, #71 Rutgers)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on February 12, 2013, 09:30:12 AM
Best losses!  SEC! SEC! SEC!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses

1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: jmlynch1 on February 12, 2013, 09:44:10 AM
 :lol:
Best losses!  SEC! SEC! SEC!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 12, 2013, 09:45:54 AM
:lol:
Best losses!  SEC! SEC! SEC!

man I miss the pigaggie folk  :frown:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses

1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)

I can honestly say i did not expect to see New Mexico there.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses

1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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.
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)

I can honestly say i did not expect to see New Mexico there.

The computers love the Mountain West, its gross.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 12, 2013, 11:29:55 AM
Who has the best wins, you ask? Average win RPI rank in parentheses

1. 3 New Mexico (95)
2. 2 Miami (96)
3. 1 Duke (98)
4. 13 Minnesota (104)
5. 6 Kansas (110)
6. 8 Arizona (115)
7. 9 Louisville (120)
8. 7 Syracuse (121)
9. 5 Michigan (121)
10. 4 Florida (123)
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.
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45. 23 Kansas State (157)

I can honestly say i did not expect to see New Mexico there.

The computers love the Mountain West, its gross.

That and they only played 1 team south of 200.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 18, 2013, 11:00:22 AM
#13

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 18, 2013, 11:05:04 AM
#13

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Behind Oklahoma State. :dubious:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 18, 2013, 11:06:12 AM
Jason King has us at 8, which is our highest ranking. PI'ing works!

Miles Simon has us at 10, and KU at 17.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on February 18, 2013, 11:11:39 AM

Miles Simon has us at 10, and KU at 17.

 :lol:

Oh man, someone post phog Miles Simon hate  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 18, 2013, 11:12:34 AM
Some KU fan in the comments talked about how Miles Simon hates KU, then created a sock to agree with himself.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: smith1051 on February 18, 2013, 11:13:03 AM
Or the real AP top 25 rankings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bigwillie20 on February 18, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
Also, Rece Davis  :dubious:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Cire on February 18, 2013, 11:16:36 AM
I think it got buried but Why don't we call 1958 a championship?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 18, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
Going into this next stretch of games at #13 should put us in good shape to get well inside the top 10.  Remember when we were first top 10 with Denis and were all  :excited: and now we're  :D but relatively unexcited about it.  I like when our basketball is good.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on February 18, 2013, 11:28:04 AM
4 of our 5 losses are to teams in the top 9. PLAY TO SEED!  :ksu:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 18, 2013, 11:29:08 AM
Our 5 losses are all to teams in the top 9. PLAY TO SEED!  :ksu:

You forgot about our loss to moldaggie, but it's understandable. They're pretty forgetable.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on February 18, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Our 5 losses are all to teams in the top 9. PLAY TO SEED!  :ksu:

You forgot about our loss to moldaggie, but it's understandable. They're pretty forgetable.

yeah, I fixed my post
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rock Lobster on February 18, 2013, 12:40:11 PM
#13 in the Coaches as well
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 18, 2013, 12:40:54 PM
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,36/lang,en/r,T/s,21/t1,42/task,singleteamr/type,2/w,/year,/

Click link above, hate on Steve Deshazo.  I don't feel like we've been pretend influencing this poll enough
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 18, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Also, Seth Davis just nailed it with his ballot
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on February 18, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
(http://not4print.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/angelrodriguez-thumb-250x364-1366641.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on February 18, 2013, 01:07:59 PM
Also, Seth Davis just nailed it with his ballot

yeah, wow
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: OK_Cat on February 18, 2013, 01:51:29 PM
seth has been hanging out with #gottlieb4ksu long enough that he understands how we work
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on February 18, 2013, 02:09:52 PM
Seth Davis has probably the 2nd worst ballot I've ever seen
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
Bilas:

Quote
18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)

The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.

The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.

Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on February 20, 2013, 11:53:56 AM
Bilas was on 810 last week and it was just obvious that he doesn't really watch us. just throws out typical analyst jargon and runs with it.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 11:55:19 AM
Bilas:

Quote
18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)

The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.

The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.

Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.

they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 20, 2013, 11:56:44 AM
oh boy...
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 20, 2013, 12:07:33 PM
disappointing Luke Winn isn't a fan of the cats.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2013, 12:08:24 PM
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 league games and get back to me.

If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spaces on February 20, 2013, 12:08:59 PM
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.

If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.
  :excited:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work  :D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2013, 12:13:30 PM
disappointing Luke Winn isn't a fan of the cats.

I know, still #20.

I would love to see Luke throw up a chart highlight oscar's transition from Frank's JYCs to our new 3PT shooting wizards.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 20, 2013, 12:34:38 PM
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work  :D

it's glorious.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.

If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.

Will do
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2013, 02:10:55 PM
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work  :D

they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.

If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.

i don't even  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2013, 02:13:50 PM
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work  :D

they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.

If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.

i don't even  :rolleyes:

Meh. So I need an editor. Meh.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: PowercatPat on February 20, 2013, 02:15:33 PM
Bilas:

Quote
18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)

The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.

The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.

Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.

they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

GCJ, can you give us an update on how Washburn is doing this season? Haven't been keeping up with them.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 20, 2013, 02:25:01 PM

GCJ, can you give us an update on how Washburn is doing this season? Haven't been keeping up with them.


Neither has he, probably.  As you know, lifelong Hawk.  birds of a feather. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 20, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
I like when _FAN destroys people who don't know how sports work  :D

they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

Check out K-State's eFG%, 2PT%, and 3PT% over K-State's 13 game league games and get back to me.

If you don't know what eFG% is, I can't help you.

i don't even  :rolleyes:

Meh. So I need an editor. Meh.

A double "meh"!  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
I get frustrated with how low our SOS is. IMO every team below like 150 should just be weighted equally.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 03:19:35 PM
Bilas:

Quote
18. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 19)

The Wildcats were blown out by Kansas in Lawrence, then turned around and blew out Baylor in Manhattan. Kansas State is solid but not spectacular, and doesn't shoot the ball well consistently. In addition, in order to win, Kansas State must keep opponents off of the offensive glass. That is a team thing, and all five players on the floor have to box out and rebound.

The thing that the Wildcats have done best in league play is take care of the ball: Kansas State has turned it over only 10 times per game in Big 12 play, and leads the league in turnover margin. Kansas State assists on 63 percent of its field goals, best in the Big 12.

Pretty much ruins his entire rankings because he clearly has paid no attention to K-State basketball.

they have shot better in conference, but they are shooting as a team around 43.5% percent which is good for middle of the road among all division one schools.  That is not really setting the world on fire.

GCJ, can you give us an update on how Washburn is doing this season? Haven't been keeping up with them.

The men towards the beginning of the season were up to #2 in the country, but I guess success got to their heads because they dropped a few after that and are now unranked.  The men are 16-6 which is an improvement over the past years. There was talk Chipman had bene losing it in recent years because his teams had not been having the same level of success as early in the 00's, but he seems to have it back on track now.

The women are in the top 5 in the country and once again having a fantastic season.  19-3 overall and number 1 in the MIAA. This really is not a surprise as the women's team has been putting up these type of seasons since I started school there in 2005.

I can't say I have seen the teams play in person this year, but do read up on the games from the news paper articles and various other press releases.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 03:24:50 PM
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.

Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country.  Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally.  That is quite the impressive improvement.  I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance.  I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter.  Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit.  I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2013, 03:26:54 PM
IDIOT
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 20, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.

Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country.  Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally.  That is quite the impressive improvement.  I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance.  I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter.  Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit.  I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.

You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 03:44:28 PM
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.

Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country.  Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally.  That is quite the impressive improvement.  I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance.  I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter.  Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit.  I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.

You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.

Did you read my post?  I pointed out two possibilities of the difference between the states and went with the one that said at the beginning of the year they were struggling with a new offense but have now figured that out.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2013, 03:46:11 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 20, 2013, 03:47:30 PM
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.

Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country.  Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally.  That is quite the impressive improvement.  I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance.  I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter.  Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit.  I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.

You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.

Did you read my post?  I pointed out two possibilities of the difference between the states and went with the one that said at the beginning of the year they were struggling with a new offense but have now figured that out.

I was mostly referencing the "they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance" and "I do think they will cool off at least a little bit" parts. We've been very consistent since conference play started, and we have TCU, Texas and Tech games coming up. Don't know why you are suggesting that we will cool off.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
As for KSU eFG%, I took advice and looked up their performance in conference games.

Over the entire season KSU is shooting 49.4% which ranks as 145th in the country.  Like I said middle of the road. However, in conference play that Cats have bee non fire and are at 52.3% which is good for 56th nationally.  That is quite the impressive improvement.  I don't type this pretending to know how many KSU games that Mr. Bilas has watched, as I have no way of knowing this information. I will say that the stats show either the team was still trying to grasp the new offense at the beginning of the season and have now figured that out, or they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance.  I tend to think the former better describes the situation than the latter.  Will they continue to shoot as well as they have thus far in conference I have no idea, but I do think they will cool off at least a little bit.  I have not broken it down by player to see who has contributed to this improvement over the season, but I imagine Spradling's ridiculous shooting for most of the conference play is a very large factor.

You think after 2/3 of conference play the stats aren't indicative of our well our team can shoot? And without looking it up, I think Sprads went 0-11 during a 3 game span in conference play. So his shooting percentage has already taken that into account, and it's still pretty good.

Did you read my post?  I pointed out two possibilities of the difference between the states and went with the one that said at the beginning of the year they were struggling with a new offense but have now figured that out.

I was mostly referencing the "they are on an incredible hot streak right now and will regress back towards their overall season performance" and "I do think they will cool off at least a little bit" parts. We've been very consistent since conference play started, and we have TCU, Texas and Tech games coming up. Don't know why you are suggesting that we will cool off.

Fair point to mention my thought that KSU would cool off a little bit.  I don't really have any evidence to support that.  It is just my opinion based on a belief that Spradling will not continue to shoot this well and that Shane will not shoot as well as he has for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pvegs on February 20, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
FTR Sprads is 19-48 from 3 in Big 12 play.  Good for 39.5%, or, in other terms, the exact average that we have shot as a team in conference play (as _Fan mentioned recently.) He was 21-60 out of conference, good for 35%.   

Shane is  26-58 (44.8%) in conference and was 10-22 (45.5%) out of conference. 

So Sprads' "ridiculous" improvement is 4.5% and while Shane has greatly increased his output, his shooting percentage is actually down slightly.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: yosh on February 20, 2013, 05:01:59 PM
Also, McGruder missed a ton of shots in the non-con. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on February 20, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.

He's just a t-shirt phogtard.  Something about ichabods and Topeka I think. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2013, 05:07:17 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.

He's just a t-shirt phogtard.  Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.

you be nice to topeka  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.

He's just a t-shirt phogtard.  Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 20, 2013, 05:17:59 PM
Like GCJ mentioned, we rank 56 out of 340 schools in eFG in conf games --- 2nd best in B12

We also rank 27th in conf games in 3Pt shooting,  and we rank 30th in PPP (1.10)--- both tops in B12



Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 20, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.

He's just a t-shirt phogtard.  Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.

 :sdeek: I have never been so offended in my life.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2013, 06:29:48 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.

He's just a t-shirt phogtard.  Something about ichabods and Topeka I think.

 :sdeek: I have never been so offended in my life.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on February 20, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
Wait did we get an emaj'er who's not a total phogtard? Someone fill me in here.

Yeah...you. :gocho:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ednksu on February 20, 2013, 10:26:19 PM
This GCJayhawk character is being way too reasonable and conversational in his/her posts.  What the hell kind of angle is is this for bbsing?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 25, 2013, 10:52:50 AM
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2013, 10:59:42 AM
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)

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16. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 18)

The Wildcats have won seven of eight games, and surprisingly, they have a more efficient offense than defense. Kansas State still has issues shooting the ball consistently, and does not get to the free throw line enough, but the Wildcats get second shots. On the defensive end, Kansas State's first-shot defense is pretty good, but there are too many second chances available to opponents who go to the glass. After two games in which Rodney McGruder averaged only 10 points on 35 percent shooting, McGruder put 20 on Texas, including 7-of-13 from the floor, to go along with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Kansas State still has road games at Baylor and Oklahoma State.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on February 25, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)

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16. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 18)

The Wildcats have won seven of eight games, and surprisingly, they have a more efficient offense than defense. Kansas State still has issues shooting the ball consistently, and does not get to the free throw line enough, but the Wildcats get second shots. On the defensive end, Kansas State's first-shot defense is pretty good, but there are too many second chances available to opponents who go to the glass. After two games in which Rodney McGruder averaged only 10 points on 35 percent shooting, McGruder put 20 on Texas, including 7-of-13 from the floor, to go along with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Kansas State still has road games at Baylor and Oklahoma State.

wow, Bilas must be on teamburnitdown?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SEK_EMAW on February 25, 2013, 11:16:16 AM
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first

...and Rece Davis. :dubious:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2013, 11:19:02 AM
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first

...and Rece Davis. :dubious:

...but King, Simon, and Vitale!  :D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on February 25, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first

...and Rece Davis. :dubious:

Rece Davis is OK in my book.  He says "EMAW" with loads of enthusiasm all the rough ridin' time on TV, so he has a free pass from me as long as he keeps that up.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 25, 2013, 11:34:09 AM
Still 13 in today's AP poll
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kevinjamesfan6 on February 25, 2013, 11:40:28 AM
Still 13 in today's AP poll

We got snubbed in the AP. Should've atleast moved up to 12-11.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: _33 on February 25, 2013, 11:42:59 AM
So Bilas has us at 16 in his Bilas Index, but 15 in his power rankings. :confused: Seems like he has some bugs to work out.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/first

...and Rece Davis. :dubious:

Rece Davis is OK in my book.  He says "EMAW" with loads of enthusiasm all the rough ridin' time on TV, so he has a free pass from me as long as he keeps that up.

I've always had a sneaking suspicion that he's mocking us when he does that.  I don't know though.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rock Lobster on February 25, 2013, 01:23:01 PM
Still 13 in today's AP poll

We could really make a move this week if we take care of business

9 Michigan State (@Michigan)
10 Louisville (@Syracuse)
11 Arizona (@USC, @UCLA)
12 Syracuse (@Marquette, vs Louisville)

Duke plays at Virginia, and then against Miami but we probably wouldn't pass either of those teams. Maybe if Duke lost both. But anyways it's a long week. I'm just really pumped to see how the rest of the season plays out.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 25, 2013, 02:33:50 PM
Mr. Bilas has a new IN article out, does anyone else know if he still is running his pud mouth about the JYCs?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8980860/jay-bilas-ranks-68-best-teams-nation-college-basketball)

Quote
16. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 18)

The Wildcats have won seven of eight games, and surprisingly, they have a more efficient offense than defense. Kansas State still has issues shooting the ball consistently, and does not get to the free throw line enough, but the Wildcats get second shots. On the defensive end, Kansas State's first-shot defense is pretty good, but there are too many second chances available to opponents who go to the glass. After two games in which Rodney McGruder averaged only 10 points on 35 percent shooting, McGruder put 20 on Texas, including 7-of-13 from the floor, to go along with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Kansas State still has road games at Baylor and Oklahoma State.

wow, Bilas must be on teamburnitdown?

BID does not ignore the facts, on the contrary, we tend to embrace stats and trends. Don't lump Jay Bilas in with our elite group.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2013, 08:42:30 AM
Thinking #11 for the cats this week,  will we crack the top ten? :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on March 03, 2013, 10:53:35 AM
if Michigan beats #9Msu today there is no reason we shouldn't be 10th
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kevinjamesfan6 on March 03, 2013, 12:01:50 PM
if Michigan beats #9Msu today there is no reason we shouldn't be 10th

I think we are sitting at 10th right now and if Michigan beats MSU we could swap with MSU at 9th.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: eastcat on March 03, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
if Michigan beats #9Msu today there is no reason we shouldn't be 10th

I think we are sitting at 10th right now and if Michigan beats MSU we could swap with MSU at 9th.

Me too
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bones129 on March 03, 2013, 12:31:04 PM
10th is very realistic. I think we're there.

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 03, 2013, 02:32:18 PM
I think we will be 9th.   Fla, AZ and the Cuse lost ahead of us.   Mich had a horrible loss this week, so whoever loses the Mich/Msu game should be behind us too.   
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2013, 03:48:44 PM
Knock knock knocking on a 2 seeds door, hey hey hey.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Guys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night



7
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MikeNelson on March 03, 2013, 03:52:47 PM
Guys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night



7

The adorable 'Cats are adorable.  By far the best Wildcats in the country.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kevinjamesfan6 on March 03, 2013, 05:17:46 PM
Guys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night



7

Although I think you are crazy I'm crossing my fingers that you are right!  :pray:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2013, 05:23:34 PM
Mich just did their part
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bunter on March 03, 2013, 05:38:16 PM
It's like you all forget WE ARE the Kansas State Wildcats.

11.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on March 03, 2013, 05:54:59 PM
It's like you all forget WE ARE the Kansas State Wildcats.

11.

I originally thought this but hadn't accounted for some early week losses.  We will definitely be 10 or better.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kslim on March 03, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
Guys we tugged at the nations heart strings last night



7

Although I think you are crazy I'm crossing my fingers that you are right!  :pray:
crazy like a fox anywho we haven't lost in forever and everybody we needed to lose has. It's a media driven market and Espn want a 7-11 matchup saturday
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 03, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/top25
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bones129 on March 03, 2013, 07:09:44 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/top25

Nice.

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
sparty with 7 losses ranked 6 spots over the next team with more than 5 losses.

Also, we should be above both sparty and louisville
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on March 03, 2013, 07:30:55 PM
sparty with 7 losses ranked 6 spots over the next team with more than 5 losses.

Also, we should be above both sparty and louisville

CBS is less on # of wins/losses than the other two will be. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 03, 2013, 07:35:57 PM
Someone needs to explain to me how a team with a 22-7 record deserves to be ranked seventh in the country. They shouldn't even be in the top 15 at this point.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2013, 07:39:52 PM
Someone needs to explain to me how a team with a 22-7 record deserves to be ranked seventh in the country. They shouldn't even be in the top 15 at this point.

Only explanation is that they are tied for the lead in their conf with the Fighting Buzz's. I think they swept 'cuse though.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 03, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2013, 07:52:32 PM
Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football.  :dunno:

Big east

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Title: Re: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 03, 2013, 08:04:38 PM
Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football.  :dunno:

Big east

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Only when the Big 10+2 is so down that they have to.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2013, 11:03:01 PM
Or it could be because the media loves the Big 10+2 in basketball as much as they love the SEC in football.  :dunno:

the Big 10 is legit
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 03, 2013, 11:08:36 PM
I love rankings threads!  :dance:


gunna miss it next year.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 03, 2013, 11:14:38 PM
I love rankings threads!  :dance:


gunna miss it next year.

We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 03, 2013, 11:16:05 PM
I love rankings threads!  :dance:


gunna miss it next year.

We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.

I hope I am wrong! I hope you are right! Chances are you're right!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 04, 2013, 08:47:34 AM
Don't worry everyone it won't be until probably year 4 that oscar starts the dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2013, 08:50:10 AM
Our main weakness next yr will be at big unless DJamer gets a big soph bounce.

That said, we have been playing small all yr so next yr we just plug nino in at 4, shane at 3, and we will have a legitimate starting 5.  If foster can beat out will, all the better.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2013, 09:20:52 AM
Our main weakness next yr will be at big unless DJamer gets a big soph bounce.

That said, we have been playing small all yr so next yr we just plug nino in at 4, shane at 3, and we will have a legitimate starting 5.  If foster can beat out will, all the better.

Don't do this to yourself. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2013, 09:40:12 AM
Quote from: Bilas
15. Kansas State Wildcats (Previous ranking: 16)

The Wildcats are in the mix for a share of the Big 12 title, even though Kansas beat them twice. oscar Weber has done a remarkable job with this team. Kansas State showed a lot of toughness to execute under stress at Baylor and for Rodney McGruder to hit the game-winner with a second left in regulation.

Kansas State is not a great defensive team, but a good one, and this offense has continued to improve throughout the season. Right now, Kansas State is one of the 25 most efficient offenses in the country, and a large part of that comes from activity on the offensive glass, as the Wildcats are 10th in the country in offensive rebounding percentage, which means easier second shots. Kansas State is not quite as good on the opposite backboard, giving up too many second opportunities.

McGruder has had a great season, and is a clear choice for first team All-Big 12. Kansas State has won nine of 10 since losing back-to-back games to Kansas and Iowa State, and the Wildcats are ranked No. 33 in the BPI, No. 31 in KemPom.com, and No. 21 in the Sagarin ratings. The Bilastrator has Kansas State more in line with Sagarin, which makes Sagarin correct.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 04, 2013, 09:57:35 AM
Starting to think Bilas sucks.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on March 04, 2013, 10:01:13 AM
Starting to think Bilas sucks.

oh he's a definite loser. but not thinking the cats are very good has nothing to do with that.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bunter on March 04, 2013, 10:14:45 AM
Starting to think Bilas sucks.

oh he's a definite loser. but not thinking the cats are very good has nothing to do with that.

It has to do with his being loser that I'm willing to bet is going to sound like Lou Holtz one day.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 04, 2013, 10:57:54 AM
#9 - AP


Also, Rece still hates us.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
#9 - AP


Also, Rece still hates us.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

King! And Gasaway!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 04, 2013, 11:01:32 AM
#9 - AP


Also, Rece still hates us.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

King! And Gasaway!

Gasaway was on the oscar Train long before anyone else!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on March 04, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MikeNelson on March 04, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Rece Davis has K State at #19?  Is he even watching games this year?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2013, 11:19:52 AM
Rece Davis has K State at #19?  Is he even watching games this year?

He did the Big Monday game in Lawrence and that is probably it. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 04, 2013, 11:23:31 AM
I'm pretty sure Bilas just hates the whole Big XII.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2013, 11:59:18 AM
bilas is great, if you don't like jay, you're probably really dumb

also glad to see dick weiss fully on board
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2013, 12:13:13 PM
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.

its the only thing he's right about, his anti-NCAA stance is so dumb all Duke grads and attorneys should be embarrassed that a peer could have such a first level thought process
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2013, 12:17:32 PM
9
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2013, 12:18:29 PM
slash
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on March 04, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
10
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kslim on March 04, 2013, 12:20:13 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5139/5494937596_f846fa7081_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2013, 12:21:47 PM
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.

its the only thing he's right about, his anti-NCAA stance is so dumb all Duke grads and attorneys should be embarrassed that a peer could have such a first level thought process

what makes it dumb?  seems to be pretty logical.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2013, 12:24:50 PM
(http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/9NumberNineInCircle.png)(http://media.philly.com/images/slash-.JPG)(http://www.catalystspace.com/images/blog/ten.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 04, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
I like bilas doing games/analysis. Don't care for his twitter stuff.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
It's hard for me to hate Bilas--because I love his open crusade against officiating in today's game--but I'm doing my best.

its the only thing he's right about, his anti-NCAA stance is so dumb all Duke grads and attorneys should be embarrassed that a peer could have such a first level thought process

what makes it dumb?  seems to be pretty logical.

several reasons

without spending too much time getting into this topic abolishing the NCAA and paying players would make things much worse and schools like Duke would be better served by shutting football down using this model.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 04, 2013, 01:46:15 PM
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).

Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0

 :nerd:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MadCat on March 04, 2013, 01:50:19 PM
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).

Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0

 :nerd:

Washburn State?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 04, 2013, 02:36:24 PM
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).

Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0

 :nerd:

Washburn State?  :dunno:

Little further south.

(http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2006/0321/photo/667_350.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksucrcoop on March 04, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).

Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0

 :nerd:

 :frown:
guys, we should donate our ranking to TCU this week.

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2013, 02:43:44 PM
Kinda surprising ISU has only been int the top 10 for 29 weeks in their history.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on March 04, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
Is it?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2013, 03:23:38 PM
Is it?

yeah, they won back-to-back Big 12 titles in the 90's, and that was after Tim Floyd had some really good teams. I have no idea what they were like before the 90's though.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SleepFighter on March 04, 2013, 03:30:36 PM
Is it?

yeah, they won back-to-back Big 12 titles in the 90's, and that was after Tim Floyd had some really good teams. I have no idea what they were like before the 90's though.

Yeah, I remember the back to back titles, but Floyd's best teams weren't top 10 good. And Johnny Orr was like their favoritest basketball coach of all time, and his conference record wasn't that good.  (just looked it up, 79-117.  Very Ioway.)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2013, 05:24:56 PM
Kinda surprising ISU has only been int the top 10 for 29 weeks in their history.

fun fact, KSU has more sweet 16s than ISU has tournament wins. They have 13 wins in 14 appearances.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2013, 05:30:46 PM
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on March 04, 2013, 05:33:31 PM
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).

Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0

 :nerd:

Breads: 225
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
That's great, Bread.

Solid

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SwiftCat on March 04, 2013, 06:11:33 PM
That's a pretty good number Bread. Somethin' you and your boys should be proud of.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska

Just shows how irrelevant the old days were. Good grief, I had no idea.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on March 04, 2013, 06:29:30 PM
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska

Just shows how irrelevant the old days were. Good grief, I had no idea.

it really shows that isu bball only became decent in the mid 80s.  they've been pretty good since then,  but weren't worth crap until the mid 80s. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on March 04, 2013, 07:13:50 PM
that stat means as much to me as all-time football records
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bunter on March 04, 2013, 07:24:46 PM
that stat means as much to me as all-time football records

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1068750/index.htm

I recently spoke to a K-State football player from the early 70's that said our facilities were so bad players chose to work out at the student rec instead of using the team equipment.

All that matters is arriving.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wabash909 on March 04, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
It's weird because I always thought Hilton Magic somehow had a correlation to good basketball.  Confusing.



Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2013, 07:49:52 PM
The only Big 8 team they have a winning record over is CU and that currently stands at 77-70. Yep, they have a losing record against Nebraska

Just shows how irrelevant the old days were. Good grief, I had no idea.

it really shows that isu bball only became decent in the mid 80s.  they've been pretty good since then,  but weren't worth crap until the mid 80s.

from 85-2005 they made the tourney 12 times, only 3 times the other 85 years they've played basketball.

that stat means as much to me as all-time football records

All time wins and time in the top 10 are irrelevant when discussing program history? I think you are confusing this with KU fans dismissing current success because of what wasn't accomplished 50 years ago. I think if we were discussing historical accomplishments of our football program we couldn't run from our history.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on March 04, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
i'm just trained to ignore history in football and would feel like a hypocrite if i cared in basketball. not saying i'm right, just how it is.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Hey dorks, thanks for rough ridin' up a once informative thread with trivial anecdotes about how irrelevant isu bball is.

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bunter on March 04, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
Hey dorks, thanks for rough ridin' up a once informative thread with trivial anecdotes about how irrelevant isu bball is.



We're 9/10
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MadCat on March 04, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
Hey dorks, thanks for rough ridin' up a once informative thread with trivial anecdotes about how irrelevant isu bball is.



We're 9/10
Good segue
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 05, 2013, 09:05:47 AM
Since we're back in the Top 10 again, here's some numbers for Big 12 teams (and others of interest).

Total top 10 AP appearances:
KU: 458 (admirable consistency)
OU: 137
Mizzou: 110
KSU: 108
OSU: 108
Texas: 87
WVU: 81
WSU: 45
ISU: 29
A&M: 19
Bay: 17
CU: 10
TTU: 4
UNL: 4
TCU: 0

 :nerd:

Can't wait for you all to pass those low brow degenerates at Mizzou.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 06, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
KSU finally made Winn's rankings! :D   up 7 spots(http://goEMAW.com/forum/Themes/chemical_light/images/post/exclamation.gif) to 13. However we didn't get any fancy charts. :frown:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130306/college-basketball-power-rankings/
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CatMission on March 06, 2013, 08:19:34 PM
Movin' on up...
Georgetown loses to 'Nova and hosts Syracuse to end the season
Michigan hung on to beat Purdue and hosts Indiana to end the season
Louisville hosts Notre Dame

With a win at Historic Gallagher-Iba Arena, we could move up in the polls next week.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on March 06, 2013, 10:39:12 PM
5 Miami and 6 Georgetown both lose tonight, could pass them with a W on saturday
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 06, 2013, 10:41:46 PM
do they put out rankings the Monday after Selection Sunday? Is this Monday the last rankings before the post season rankings?  :confused:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: hemmy on March 06, 2013, 10:48:17 PM
KSU finally made Winn's rankings! :D   up 7 spots(http://goEMAW.com/forum/Themes/chemical_light/images/post/exclamation.gif) to 13. However we didn't get any fancy charts. :frown:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130306/college-basketball-power-rankings/

This guy practically has us as a 5 seed and OSU as a 3 seed.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 06, 2013, 10:49:43 PM
do they put out rankings the Monday after Selection Sunday? Is this Monday the last rankings before the post season rankings?  :confused:

They do, our big 12 tourny performance will be reflected in our final rankings
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 10, 2013, 09:19:51 PM
man, tomorrow could of been fun but dropping out of the top 10 will suck :(
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 10, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
12 in Gary Parrish's top 25.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 10, 2013, 09:23:33 PM
man, tomorrow could of been fun but dropping out of the top 10 will suck :(
Don't care. Champs!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on March 10, 2013, 09:34:35 PM
man, tomorrow could of been fun but dropping out of the top 10 will suck :(
Don't care. Champs!

do care, I like good things!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kstate4life on March 11, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
#11 AP, #12 USA Today
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 11, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
Holy hell, will take.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kslim on March 11, 2013, 12:22:27 PM
(http://www.mensbasketballhoopscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/oscar-weber-illinois-basketball-coach.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 13, 2013, 08:46:56 AM
#15 in Winn's rankings.

Quote
Kansas State Wildcats (25-6)
oscar Weber is having a sensational debut season at K-State, having led the Wildcats to a share of the Big 12 title (with a 14-4 league record) and what could very well be a No. 4 seed in the NCAAs. He's done quite well for himself after being fired from Illinois.

But here's a surprising fact: Weber's penultimate Illini team, which did not really get anyone excited, going 19-13 overall (9-9 in the Big Ten) while earning a No. 9 seed in the NCAAs, had a much better efficiency rating than his current K-State club.

The 2010-11 Illini ranked 18th in kenpom, while this year's Wildcats are 35th. Weber was perceived to be flailing in those final Champaign years, when in actuality, he had a decent team; now, he's perceived to be thriving with a less-efficient product. Life is better for him away from the Big Ten.




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130312/college-basketball-power-rankings/index.html
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on March 13, 2013, 08:51:39 AM
Luke Winn is a doofus
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2013, 08:52:03 AM
#15 in Winn's rankings.

Quote
Kansas State Wildcats (25-6)
oscar Weber is having a sensational debut season at K-State, having led the Wildcats to a share of the Big 12 title (with a 14-4 league record) and what could very well be a No. 4 seed in the NCAAs. He's done quite well for himself after being fired from Illinois.

But here's a surprising fact: Weber's penultimate Illini team, which did not really get anyone excited, going 19-13 overall (9-9 in the Big Ten) while earning a No. 9 seed in the NCAAs, had a much better efficiency rating than his current K-State club.

The 2010-11 Illini ranked 18th in kenpom, while this year's Wildcats are 35th. Weber was perceived to be flailing in those final Champaign years, when in actuality, he had a decent team; now, he's perceived to be thriving with a less-efficient product. Life is better for him away from the Big Ten.




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130312/college-basketball-power-rankings/index.html

oh man.  it's just gonna get better!     :excited:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2013, 02:05:34 PM
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.


You know what I'm going to tell him just that
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.


You know what I'm going to tell him just that

I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.


You know what I'm going to tell him just that

I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.

Do you think there are 30ish teams better than us?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.


You know what I'm going to tell him just that

I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.

Do you think there are 30ish teams better than us?

How many NBA teams are there?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.


You know what I'm going to tell him just that

I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.

Do you think there are 30ish teams better than us?

better-ish. I mean when I look at the list, I'm not sure how many teams we would be favored against on a neutral floor. Maybe 5-6? And mostly because they're mid-majors?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on March 13, 2013, 03:06:17 PM
We look pretty midmajory without JO on the floor.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 18, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
#12 in the AP Poll in the last reg season poll

Ending up winning 20 of last 25 after the Gonzaga loss
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kougar24 on March 18, 2013, 05:23:40 PM
#12 in the AP Poll in the last reg season poll

Ending up winning 20 of last 25 after the Gonzaga loss

So we'll end up winning 22 of 27 between Gonzaga losses. Interesting.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kstate4life on March 18, 2013, 05:34:33 PM
Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless.  Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us.  At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings.  What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI?  Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on March 18, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
Polls in basketball are meaningless which is fine and what they should be.  You can use them as a general indicator or whatever, but so many ballots are incredibly dumb it would be stupid to let them affect seeding.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2013, 05:48:21 PM
Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless.  Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us.  At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings.  What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI?  Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?

still hilarious that people still don't understand RPI
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2013, 11:21:06 PM
Love when numbers guys blindly abide by said numbers despite obvious flaws and/or irregularities. If Winn doesn't like oscar's system or our personnel, its obvious he doesn't, he should just say so and not use kenpom as a crutch. Pomeroy has admitted that his rankings can have some outliers.


You know what I'm going to tell him just that

I don't think he's wrong. KSU really isn't really a flaw or irregularity. We are what we are.

Point is its clear Luke doesn't like something about this team, also equally clear that he can't articulate what that is so he is using a metric as a crutch.

Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless.  Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us.  At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings.  What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI?  Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?

still hilarious that people still don't understand RPI

Football fans that visit the basketball board for three weeks don't count. I mean you're expecting someone who doesn't think football polls are a joke to understand the RPI.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kstate4life on March 19, 2013, 10:20:37 AM
Just shows that the polls are 100% meaningless.  Ranked above Marquette the entire season and they end up a higher seed than us.  At least in football the polls are added to the BCS rankings.  What is the point of even having bball polls at this point, if the committee goes more off of the RPI?  Should the polls be part of the RPI rankings?

still hilarious that people still don't understand RPI

Football fans that visit the basketball board for three weeks don't count. I mean you're expecting someone who doesn't think football polls are a joke to understand the RPI.

I understand what RPI is just fine.  And I am usually on both boards everyday all year FYI.  I think both polls are a joke, I just wanted to verify that college basketball polls are pointless.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Unruly on April 28, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/98690/revised-top-25-post-deadline-edition




 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on April 28, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
Meh


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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 02:12:38 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/98690/revised-top-25-post-deadline-edition




 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

Good summary by the WWL about why we'll be good. Everyone else gets a few sentences, we get "Oh hey they have Marcus Roughriding Foster...Look out!"
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 28, 2014, 02:18:05 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 28, 2014, 02:19:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)
Thx!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 28, 2014, 04:11:21 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)

Well, that team really underachieved.  I forgot we were ranked so highly.  Pullen, Curt Kelly, McGruder, JamSam.  CU just kept kicking our ass that year.  :frown:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 28, 2014, 04:12:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2011/week/2/seasontype/2)

Well, that team really underachieved.  I forgot we were ranked so highly.  Pullen, Curt Kelly, McGruder, JamSam.  CU just kept kicking our ass that year.  :frown:

We even had a 1st place vote the next week! Then Duke made us their bitch  :frown:/ :D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 28, 2014, 05:01:43 PM
im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 28, 2014, 05:36:22 PM
im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...

No Colorado & no Frank in 14-15.  So...   :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...

No Colorado & no Frank in 14-15.  So...   :dunno:

Hopefully no Dillard's too  :pray:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 28, 2014, 07:36:38 PM
im not really saying this team is that team or anything im just saying like, last time we got ranked preseason we crap the bed extremely fast. I doubt were in the top 25 for most of the season...

No Colorado & no Frank in 14-15.  So...   :dunno:
That teams was pretty good at the end of the season, earned a 5 seed. Had a lot of weird issues early.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bones129 on April 28, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
Meh


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Double meh.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 01, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
Bleacher Report has us at #17 on their early preseason top 25. I'd post the article, but my work computer breaks down everytime I access that site.  :lol: Also, slide show.  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on May 01, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
Bleacher Report has us at #17 on their early preseason top 25. I'd post the article, but my work computer breaks down everytime I access that site.  :lol: Also, slide show.  :Yuck:

would take #17
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 19, 2015, 02:07:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings)

AP: LAWL, yeah right
Coaches: RV

 :bball:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 19, 2015, 02:13:04 PM
Imagine:

Quote from: PA Announcer
Welcome to Bramalage Coliseum, home of your #44 ranked Kansas State Wildcats

And then the crowd goes mild!    :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Unruly on January 20, 2015, 02:02:37 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/middle


:love:

:love:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 20, 2015, 02:04:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings/_/show/middle


:love:

:love:

Katz likes the Cats!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: TownieCat on January 20, 2015, 03:00:46 PM
 :Wha:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 20, 2015, 03:25:04 PM
It's nice to see the media taking notice that our jet lag has worn off and finals are over. This is a different team when they can focus.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rock Lobster on March 07, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
Maybe a luke but did anyone else see that we got two votes this week in the Coaches Poll?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

Doubleyou Tee eff????
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 07, 2015, 02:30:25 PM
search function.

(http://www.dmngoodtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lukes-lobster.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2015, 04:16:20 PM
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on-college-basketball/25331040/cbs-sports-2015-16-ranking-of-every-college-basketball-team-from-1-351

11th

Bad news- 2nd lowest in the Big 12, by a decent margin.
Good news-much higher rated than Mizzou
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 16, 2015, 04:31:28 PM
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on-college-basketball/25331040/cbs-sports-2015-16-ranking-of-every-college-basketball-team-from-1-351

11th

Bad news- 2nd lowest in the Big 12, by a decent margin.
Good news-much higher rated than Mizzou

It's 116th. 11th really had me scratching my head. 116 makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
Don't know what happened to that 6, I'll blame pissclams.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: j rake on October 19, 2015, 12:50:34 PM
116th is still too high.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 19, 2015, 01:19:25 PM
they'll finish sub100, kenpom.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: j rake on October 19, 2015, 02:19:41 PM
they'll finish sub100, kenpom.

they finished 88th last year and this year the bottom falls out. highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 19, 2015, 04:06:40 PM
the bottom is not going to fall out.  they'll be boringly mediocre, not incendiarily bad.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 19, 2015, 07:08:40 PM
the bottom is not going to fall out.  they'll be boringly mediocre, not incendiarily bad.

What is the evidence for this?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 19, 2015, 08:59:42 PM
the bottom is not going to fall out.  they'll be boringly mediocre, not incendiarily bad.

What is the evidence for this?

the quality of the players in the program.  although i am using mediocre in the sense of really bad for a big 12 team.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 19, 2015, 09:36:05 PM
Sometimes it's hard to tell what is meant by being ranked higher/lower/sub.

Is higher than 25th good or bad?
Is sub 100 good or bad?
Is lower than 50 good or bad?

Not always clear which way you're going. It can be read both ways.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 19, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Trim on October 19, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
Finally got back into this thread from where I left it in early '13 and oh man.  :frown:

I love rankings threads!  :dance:


gunna miss it next year.

We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 11:37:22 PM
Finally got back into this thread from where I left it in early '13 and oh man.  :frown:

I love rankings threads!  :dance:


gunna miss it next year.

We will start unranked but will spend the entire season ranked once we break in, just like this season. You are going to get eviscerated on this board doubting an Angel led team. We will be returning essentially 4 starters.

I'm so pissed we never got a chance to see MB2 and ART share a backcourt. Damnit oscar :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: j rake on October 26, 2015, 09:59:25 AM
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100

(http://i.imgur.com/G5sTXQA.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: j rake on October 26, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
damn, just realized i outed myself as having k-state listed as my "fav team" in kenpom.  :frown:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 26, 2015, 10:12:43 AM
only 11 spots to go, kstate.  you can do this.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 05:42:53 PM
damn, just realized i outed myself as having k-state listed as my "fav team" in kenpom.  :frown:

Lemme get your log in and password, statsheet is gone and I don't want to pay for kenpom
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 26, 2015, 07:14:54 PM
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100

I hope this is true for the sake of my eyeballs, but I don't know if I believe that based on my hunches and limited info on the roster.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on October 26, 2015, 07:31:02 PM
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100

I hope this is true for the sake of my eyeballs, but I don't know if I believe that based on my hunches and limited info on the roster.

if you aren't sold on this team being top 100 after reading brettgpc's scrimmage review, then well i don't know what to tell you
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2015, 07:38:33 PM
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100

I hope this is true for the sake of my eyeballs, but I don't know if I believe that based on my hunches and limited info on the roster.

(http://i.imgur.com/o472Jl2.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 26, 2015, 08:33:54 PM
if you aren't sold on this team being top 100 after reading brettgpc's scrimmage review, then well i don't know what to tell you

he shook my confidence a little, i'll admit.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 26, 2015, 10:54:28 PM
That said, I agree we'll likely be ranked better than kenpom 100

(http://i.imgur.com/G5sTXQA.png)

Not that anyone cares, but I meant better than kenpom 100 by the end of the season. The first month is going to be ugly.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: scottwildcat on December 07, 2015, 03:22:31 PM
RV!!!!


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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2015, 03:25:23 PM
RV!!!!


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 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 07, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
That was extremely nice of Mark Fox.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: TownieCat on December 07, 2015, 04:03:49 PM
I don't think even the most optimistic of fans would have predicted this  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on December 07, 2015, 04:07:13 PM
 :Woot:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on December 07, 2015, 04:13:14 PM
74.   :)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksu101 on October 20, 2016, 08:36:20 PM
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/2016/1/ (http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/2016/1/)

Others Receiving Votes
Florida State 65; Iowa State 56; California 43; Miami (Fla.) 35; Dayton 34; Oklahoma 33; Seton Hall 24; Texas A&M 22; Notre Dame 18; San Diego State 17; Virginia Tech 16; Wichita State 15; Southern California 14; Butler 14; Ohio State 12; Florida 11; Clemson 11; Colorado 11; Michigan 10; Pittsburgh 7; Georgia 6; Virginia Commonwealth 6; Yale 6; Chattanooga 5; Washington 4; Nevada 3; Kansas State 3; Arkansas 2; Davidson 2; Valparaiso 2; Southern Methodist 1; Utah 1.

 :sdeek: :sdeek:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 20, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
I still love this thread title.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on October 20, 2016, 10:46:29 PM
 my money is on Painter and that sob Mark Fox
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 20, 2016, 11:06:03 PM
Let the goetard butthurt flow :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: renocat on October 20, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
Let the goetard butthurt flow :Woohoo:
I am.smiling.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2016, 02:40:10 PM
I still love this thread title.

 :adored:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2016, 02:40:50 PM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9540/brucepump.gif)

Why was this never added?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pvegs on October 21, 2016, 03:52:55 PM
Let the goetard butthurt flow :Woohoo:

good pt, fsd. i was on the fence, really stressin' abt whether we would suck or not, but these 3 votes in the preseason coaches poll have me convinced we'll be better than advertised. phew.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pvegs on October 24, 2016, 10:05:23 AM
44th in preseason ken pom!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 24, 2016, 10:50:15 AM
Golly, looks like shitty coaching is the only thing that can keep this group of studs out of the NCAA tournament. That's a lot of pressure on oscar.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Gooch on October 24, 2016, 12:09:27 PM
Nah. oscar is BITB at shifting the blame back on the players.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2016, 11:54:43 AM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on October 26, 2016, 12:06:29 PM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:

I hope oscar explains to his players who Gary Parrish is, plays that podcast, and then puts that chip on their shoulders.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on October 26, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:

Gary better watch it, those 3 votes are a high bar for our kids to achieve/prove this season.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Trim on October 26, 2016, 12:11:17 PM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:

Do you still listen to all the college hoops podcasts? I used to when we were relevant and then would try to listen for things like that but I'm a year behind and will never catch up. So please just report on things like that and I'll unsubscribe.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 26, 2016, 12:15:23 PM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:

can you give me the approx. time in the podcast and the date?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:

Do you still listen to all the college hoops podcasts? I used to when we were relevant and then would try to listen for things like that but I'm a year behind and will never catch up. So please just report on things like that and I'll unsubscribe.

I only listen to Gary Parrish because his podcast is amazing and usually only half of it is about basketball and the other half is about drunk coaches and media.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
During his latest podcast, Gary Parrish mocked us for getting votes :cry:

can you give me the approx. time in the podcast and the date?

Can't give you the time because I already deleted it, not a very long podcast anyway, sometime in the second half.

* Published: 10/21/16 1:01:04 PM
* Episode Download Link (34 MB): http://cstvpodcast.cstv.com.edgesuite.net/mensbasketball0708/102116_mbb.mp3
* Episode Feed: CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast - http://podcasts.cstv.com/feeds/mensbasketball.xml
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Catchacold on October 26, 2016, 03:00:42 PM
If we finish the season in the top 25, would that be a good year?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
If we finish the season in the top 25, would that be a good year?

yes
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 26, 2016, 04:39:49 PM
i'm going to give it a fair shot at being an osu fan.  it'd be great redevelop enthusiasm for college bball, which is still the greatest sport enjoyed by mankind.  but i need a team, i don't have it in me to soldier on as an impartial fan.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Gooch on October 26, 2016, 04:59:47 PM
Sergio chats for an OSU game?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 27, 2016, 12:59:49 AM
I love Brad but everything else about OSU basketball is incredibly hateable.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bones129 on October 27, 2016, 01:10:54 AM
I love Brad but everything else about OSU basketball is incredibly hateable.

I assume you speak only of the present and not the recent past. OSU had many great years under Mr. Iba.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on October 27, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
I am rooting for Brad to make oscar's failures too big to ignore
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
I am rooting for Brad to make oscar's failures too big to ignore

Yes! 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2016, 02:37:51 PM
Someone asked a cbb insider on 810 if they thought Brad would leave Oklahoma State after 1 year to come back home and the guy said yes.  :love: I still don't think he's out of play once oscar deports.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:42:48 PM
I would imagine that his contract has something specific as a barrier to doing specifically that.   :dunno:

I mean, I would if I was OSU's AD.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 27, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
I would imagine that his contract has something specific as a barrier to doing specifically that.   :dunno:

I mean, I would if I was OSU's AD.
What about Huggs and West Virginia tho? :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
Poor comparo, imo.

We were waaaaay more dogshitty then than OSU is now and Huggs was waaaaay more of an established coach then than Brad is now(he had more leverage to negotiate a favorable contract).

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on October 27, 2016, 03:00:36 PM
0% chance we could hire him as long as currie is at kstate.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Gooch on October 27, 2016, 05:07:31 PM
0% chance we could hire him as long as currie is at kstate.
Correct. Currie would never admit he mumped up then by offering him now and Brad would never work for Currie.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: meow meow on October 27, 2016, 05:14:36 PM
Poor comparo, imo.

We were waaaaay more dogshitty then than OSU is now and Huggs was waaaaay more of an established coach then than Brad is now(he had more leverage to negotiate a favorable contract).

And West Virginia wasn't an in-conference move.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on October 27, 2016, 05:36:46 PM
We're not looking for a new coach, and won't be for at least a couple more years.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2016, 10:13:30 AM
I love Brad but everything else about OSU basketball is incredibly hateable.

I assume you speak only of the present and not the recent past. OSU had many great years under Mr. Iba.

Henry Iba, recent past? Bones, are you 164 years old? Henry Iba is a Lambda Chi so he's good with me.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on October 28, 2016, 11:07:12 AM
The first Sutton is barely recent history.  Iba is a dino and is pretty much irrelevant now.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on December 12, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
Others receiving votes: Florida 44, Wichita State 33, Virginia Tech 32, Maryland 31, Valparaiso 9, TCU 8, Middle Tennessee 7, Minnesota 6, Miami 6, Kansas State 4, UCF 2, Michigan St. 2, Syracuse 2, Ohio State 2, Pittsburgh 2, Clemson 1, Loyola of Chicago 1, Iowa State 1.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-villanova-remains-no-1-usc-enters-ap-top-25/
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on December 13, 2016, 11:42:54 AM
Others receiving votes: Florida 44, Wichita State 33, Virginia Tech 32, Maryland 31, Valparaiso 9, TCU 8, Middle Tennessee 7, Minnesota 6, Miami 6, Kansas State 4, UCF 2, Michigan St. 2, Syracuse 2, Ohio State 2, Pittsburgh 2, Clemson 1, Loyola of Chicago 1, Iowa State 1.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-villanova-remains-no-1-usc-enters-ap-top-25/

Half as many as TCU!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 11:49:28 AM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2016, 11:52:04 AM
Neat deal
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: dal9 on December 13, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
twice as many as MSU, OSU and Syracuse...in many years, that would be pretty damn impressive
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: #LIFE on December 13, 2016, 12:00:06 PM
I take it Gene Keady is an AP voter
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on December 13, 2016, 12:19:28 PM
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/doug-doughty/2016/week-6 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/doug-doughty/2016/week-6)

stud

(http://collegepolltracker.com/images/pollsters/doug-doughty.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 01:25:22 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 01:27:50 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

Remember when Bob Knight did big monday? :lol: Anyway he would say BINGO when someone would hit a three or a big free throw. He's say BINGO when reading the last sentence of your post.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2016, 02:03:51 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn.  they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.

and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on December 13, 2016, 02:08:41 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

Last year South Carolina went undefeated into January in order to get ranked.  If you want someone to about our deserved NCAA seed with, best call this dude
(http://collegepolltracker.com/images/pollsters/doug-doughty.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 02:15:06 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

Remember when Bob Knight did big monday? :lol: Anyway he would say BINGO when someone would hit a three or a big free throw. He's say BINGO when reading the last sentence of your post.
:D
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 02:15:49 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

Last year South Carolina went undefeated into January in order to get ranked.  If you want someone to about our deserved NCAA seed with, best call this dude
(http://collegepolltracker.com/images/pollsters/doug-doughty.jpg)
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 02:17:23 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn.  they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.

and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year
That's fair.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on December 13, 2016, 02:21:56 PM
http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/doug-doughty/2016/week-6 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/doug-doughty/2016/week-6)

stud

(http://collegepolltracker.com/images/pollsters/doug-doughty.jpg)
That guy is an AP voter for football too, and I believe he was a Stud of the Week once or twice in the last couple years.

EDIT: I take that back.  He was a DUD of the week for his 9/27/15 poll where he dropped the cats (who had a bye that week) from 25 to NR.  Tsk tsk, Mr. Doughty!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on December 13, 2016, 02:47:21 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn.  they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.

and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161213/ae2188b845edfa2a52563145bd01089f.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on December 13, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn.  they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.

and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161213/ae2188b845edfa2a52563145bd01089f.jpg)

Its about a resume and not entire profile, I don't think playing bad teams hurt you that much. Big 12 will offer more opportunities for quality wins, USCjr just didn't have enough chances to add quality wins to their resume.   
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 03:00:59 PM
I mean I get it and all with our shitty schedule, but there isn't asingle  bracketology out there with our names on it. I'm like talking "next four out" after the first four out kinda stuff. Pretty weird for a 9-1 club.

so do you get it with our shitty schedule or not?  because when reading the first part of your post, i thought you did.  but then i read the second part of your post and i decided that you didn't. 
signed,
confused poster in KC
Well yeah, I get it, but there's been similar teams in the past (ex. Last Year South Carolina team) which were still projected and had played no one. I'm guessing they thought those teams would continue to do well in the conference, but they're assuming we won't?

i don't have time to sys/kenpom it up but last year's usc schedule wasn't comparable to ours this year (this is a hypothesis)
by the time they reached their first loss they had beaten clemson, vandy, tulsa, memphis, st johns, auburn.  they're low tier p5 but better than anything we've beaten.

and yeah, we're not going to do as well in the b12 as usc did in the sec rotation they had last year

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161213/ae2188b845edfa2a52563145bd01089f.jpg)
So their biggest non-con win was away at Clemson. What's CSU's kenpom right now? Not expecting it to be great by any means, but it might be close.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2016, 03:05:05 PM
#127. Never mind.  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on December 13, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Actually Tulsa was their best win in the noncon as they actually got an at-large bid tho that game was in the Bahamas
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: sys on December 13, 2016, 09:50:32 PM
south carolina's schedule last year was a joke because of their conference slate more so than their noncon.  their noncon wasn't particularly challenging, but it was only when combined with their ridiculously easy conference schedule that it turned into a shitshow.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 13, 2016, 11:55:20 PM
They lost to Georgia three times, pffft
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
We went from receiving 4 votes to 1, after our best performance of the year. Awesome stuff, guys!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 19, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
We went from receiving 4 votes to 1, after our best performance of the year. Awesome stuff, guys!
Gotta love the polls

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on December 19, 2016, 04:09:32 PM
You know other teams play as well right?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 04:11:56 PM
Yes chings, Christ.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on December 19, 2016, 04:15:33 PM
Easy there guy, just helping you out.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on December 19, 2016, 04:24:20 PM
only one voter has ranked us all season, and that man is Doug "Doughboy" Doughty, of the Roanoke Times in Roanoke, VA.  He had us at 22 last week and dropped us to 25 this week.

Moving ahead of the Cats in Doughboy's poll were Arizona, Oregon and Butler.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Easy there guy, just helping you out.
My bad.

only one voter has ranked us all season, and that man is Doug "Doughboy" Doughty, of the Roanoke Times in Roanoke, VA.  He had us at 22 last week and dropped us to 25 this week.

Moving ahead of the Cats in Doughboy's poll were Arizona, Oregon and Butler.
That makes sense. Ty!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on December 19, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
Doug is on thin rough ridin' ice this week
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on December 19, 2016, 09:13:00 PM
yep, doughboy better come correct this week
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 09:37:23 PM
Are death threats warranted in this case?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: bones129 on December 20, 2016, 12:18:24 AM
And the women check in this week at No. 24 in AP.   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 114Hickory on December 20, 2016, 06:25:22 AM
yep, doughboy better come correct this week

Faithless elector?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on December 20, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
And the women check in this week at No. 24 in AP.   :emawkid:

The women's ap poll is a godawful mess, brutal
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 02, 2017, 03:32:09 PM
Getting votes in both polls now! :Woot:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on January 03, 2017, 02:34:49 PM
The Cats received the most votes they've received all season this week.  Although Doughboy is our only voter again, he has us at 21. 

This is the most votes we've received since November 17, 2014.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on January 09, 2017, 11:18:18 AM
People appear to be coming around to Doughboy's influence.  Can't get much voter info yet, but it appears that the Cats are "tied" for the 25/26th spot.  Details on voter info to come!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2017, 11:23:53 AM
 :doom:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings


Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2017, 11:30:34 AM
they're ranked #1 in my heart
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 09, 2017, 11:36:54 AM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 09, 2017, 11:41:59 AM
Bradley Korn turning Wade into an all league player has paid dividends.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2017, 11:50:24 AM
Last appearance in the polls was 1/20/14 at #22. We were also in the 1/6/14 poll at #25.

In 12-13 we showed started at #25 on 12/24 and stayed the rest of the season, finishing at #12.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 09, 2017, 11:55:18 AM
3 years?! wowza
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
Just RV (#27) in the Coaches.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BostonPancake on January 09, 2017, 12:29:20 PM
Joe Leadingham  :love:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
Joe Leadingham  :love:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)

So our guy Doug Doughty went from the only guy ranking us, to not ranking us at all after a last second loss at KU and a double digit win over OU.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pvegs on January 09, 2017, 12:48:41 PM
Tied for  25th! :Woot:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 09, 2017, 12:53:20 PM
Can't wait to beat Baylor guys

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 09, 2017, 01:20:28 PM
Joe Leadingham  :love:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)

So our guy Doug Doughty went from the only guy ranking us, to not ranking us at all after a last second loss at KU and a double digit win over OU.

Interesting.

This makes me think Doug literally only looks at the W-L column.

Also, I did expect to get a little more love from any members of the press who noticed how bad KSU got jobbed @allen.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Bpequalsdk on January 09, 2017, 01:20:50 PM
Joe Leadingham  :love:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)

So our guy Doug Doughty went from the only guy ranking us, to not ranking us at all after a last second loss at KU and a double digit win over OU.

Interesting.

Paul Klee. oscar weber homer. Once called oscar the best human being he knew.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on January 09, 2017, 01:24:26 PM
:doom:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

Getting Frank'd by 3 pts in Coaches Poll, but Franking USCe in the AP!

 :Woot:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 09, 2017, 02:32:14 PM
Joe Leadingham  :love:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016 (http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/ksu/2016)

Gotta get that website for Kansas State changed, woof
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on January 09, 2017, 02:43:53 PM
Very disappointing from Doug, who is now a two time Dud.

Inexcusable from Doughboy.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: renocat on January 09, 2017, 11:29:17 PM
Bradley Korn turning Wade into an all league player has paid dividends.
I agree Coach Cornboy is making a difference wirh Sneed, Claws, and DJamer.  He has played these positions, and what he.teaches isn't theory.  AP 25th pretty good.  It is interesting watching people chase the bandwagon.  Good chane.to beat Tech, and baylor who beat ISU by 3 and cowokies by 5.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: dal9 on January 10, 2017, 12:23:11 AM
Very disappointing from Doug, who is now a two time Dud.

Inexcusable from Doughboy.
where does Doug Prishpreed have the boyz
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kim carnes on January 10, 2017, 12:58:42 PM
What is South Carolina ranked?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2017, 03:02:06 PM
What is South Carolina ranked?

We finished unranked

Got it, thanks.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 10, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
Back out of the rankings we go if we lose to Baylor

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on January 23, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Cats are just outside the top 25 this week, coming in with the 26th most votes at 29 points, 18 points behind 25th ranked florida. 

Doug DUD Doughty was the only one who voted for the Cats last week at 25th.  This week, one would expect K-State to move up his ballot, but alas, Doug continued to defy rationality by not voting for the cats at all this week.  I'm considering penning a letter to the Roanoke Times to see if I can get any clarity on this matter.

Meanwhile, Dave Borges of the New Haven Register ranked the Cats at 21!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 23, 2017, 11:54:55 AM
Doug DUD Doughty was the only one who voted for the Cats last week at 25th.  This week, one would expect K-State to move up his ballot, but alas, Doug continued to defy rationality by not voting for the cats at all this week.  I'm considering penning a letter to the Roanoke Times to see if I can get any clarity on this matter.

These guys don't really pay attention at all, do they?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on January 23, 2017, 11:56:41 AM
And guys like this picked the National Champion in football for 50 years or whatever
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on January 23, 2017, 12:01:19 PM
Doug DUD Doughty was the only one who voted for the Cats last week at 25th.  This week, one would expect K-State to move up his ballot, but alas, Doug continued to defy rationality by not voting for the cats at all this week.  I'm considering penning a letter to the Roanoke Times to see if I can get any clarity on this matter.

These guys don't really pay attention at all, do they?
I'm sure there are other examples throughout the country for different teams, but Doughty's treatment of the Cats in particular has been pretty funny to watch all season.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on January 23, 2017, 01:10:08 PM
#28 in coaches.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

I felt like we did way more this week to be ranked than we did the week we actually got ranked.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on January 23, 2017, 01:20:04 PM
WVUs tumble hurt us in that regard
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 23, 2017, 01:30:58 PM
#28 in coaches.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

I felt like we did way more this week to be ranked than we did the week we actually got ranked.

Agreed. I was kinda expecting to be #24/25, just given the 2 wins, even if WVU went 0-2 this week. Oh well, nbd.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 23, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
Florida lost to Vandy at home and stayed ranked.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Tobias on January 23, 2017, 01:52:32 PM
cats just got their first two top 100 wins of the year in the same week wacks, they'll have plenty more chances
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on November 01, 2017, 12:32:34 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-like-last-year-duke-is-no-1-in-preseason-ap-top-25-poll/

Notable Preaseason Rankings (saving you a click)

4. KU (One First Place vote)
7. Wichita Staty Universite
11. Huggins Squad
24. Baylor

Not Ranked but receives votes
TCU (46 votes)
Mizzou (19 votes)  :confused:
Texas (10 votes)
OU (7 votes) 
South Carolina 'Cocks (1 vote)


 :doom: (no votes)


Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on November 02, 2017, 04:04:27 PM
Ranking every team in college basketball from 1-351 http://es.pn/2hwYuoQ
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app


South Carolina 41
KSU 42

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: SdK on November 02, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
oscar loses NBA talent and is still hanging with Frank. What a stud.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BostonPancake on January 22, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
I just noticed that according to the recent play rankings by Sagarin, KSU is ranked #1.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm (http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 22, 2018, 03:31:10 PM
This week we are receiving 35 votes in AP poll which is great. We have to beat UGA and Baylor in order to become ranked.

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 27, 2018, 08:54:55 PM
We were #30 in AP.
#20,21,23,25,26,27,28 lost.

Should be at least #25. Could be 23-24

I'd guess #24.   
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 27, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
Fucks given: 0

Let's beat KU and take a share of #1 in the conference
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2018, 11:47:53 PM
We'll only be ranked for Big Monday. Media stuff.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DQ12 on January 29, 2018, 11:47:36 AM
26.  6 points behind 25 Arizona State; 9 points behind 24 Michigan. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 29, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
OU at #12 doesn't make sense....but whatever.   
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Post by: wetwillie on January 29, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
Seems about right
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2018, 09:57:51 AM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-19/andy-katzs-power-36-predicting-whos-and-out-ncaa-tournament
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-19/andy-katzs-power-36-predicting-whos-and-out-ncaa-tournament

Looks like some people are coming around and getting over the "week OOC schedule" point and seeing that we've actually got some decent Big 12 wins even without beating the top 3.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: 'taterblast on February 19, 2018, 10:25:28 AM
i have to hand it to oscar. one of my biggest anti-oscar talking points before this season was our complete shittiness on the road. 4-3 on the road is pretty good. the weird thing is it never feels like an impressive win (opposing team isn't that good, weak home crowd, etc) but other teams keep losing those same games so :dunno:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 19, 2018, 11:01:10 AM
Reminds me a little of the Conference Championship team.  With the exception of LaSalle, that team consistently won just about every game they were favored in and lost the ones you would expect to.  This team isn't as good, but has that level of consistency (except Tulsa).  Granted, they still have perhaps their three toughest games to come against that bottom 6.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Bpequalsdk on February 19, 2018, 11:12:26 AM
I’d guess if you put a different logo or maybe just a different coach on this same resume and it’s not even a bubble discussion. There are brackets that have them out. Not even last 4. It’s ridiculous.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on February 19, 2018, 11:19:20 AM
Poor oscar
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2018, 11:49:18 AM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-19/andy-katzs-power-36-predicting-whos-and-out-ncaa-tournament

Looks like some people are coming around and getting over the "week OOC schedule" point and seeing that we've actually got some decent Big 12 wins even without beating the top 3.

we're at 32 which would still indicate part of the last 4 in, it's not like he's made us a 2 seed (which we deserve)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 19, 2018, 12:05:15 PM
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams.  That seems light.  Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams.  That seems light.  Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.

This is a fair point. I've gotten caught up in the new Tier win system, but there are many Tier 2 wins that aren't over tournament teams.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 19, 2018, 02:27:28 PM
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams.  That seems light.  Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.

Yeah, it's not a coincidence that our mol against the top three teams is huge. There's no magic about those teams except that they're way better than the teams below us in the standings. No real opportunity for us to prove that we're better than good not great teams, hopefully that doesn't bite us on selection Sunday.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 19, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams.  That seems light.  Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.

It's far more likely we end up with 6 than 1. We also will only have 1 loss to a non tourney team, whatever that is worth.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on February 20, 2018, 02:23:49 PM
It's possible that we end up with only 1 or 2 wins against tournament teams.  That seems light.  Granted, you don't have to be good to get in, just better than the rest of the bubble.

It's far more likely we end up with 6 than 1. We also will only have 1 loss to a non tourney team, whatever that is worth.

Yea, I just meant 1 or 2 as the low water mark.  Not that it is likely
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
Which 6 tourney teams we talkin bout
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2018, 03:23:38 PM
Which 6 tourney teams we talkin bout

Not six teams, six wins
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2018, 03:36:35 PM
Which 6 tourney teams we talkin bout

Not six teams, six wins

TCU (2) Baylor (2),  if we sweep OU and UT they won’t make the tourney.   I guess if we lose to OU and UT and then it could be TCU (2) Baylor (2) UT (1) OU (1)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2018, 03:41:52 PM
OU will make it, they need two wins, they should muster that.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Powercat Posse on October 22, 2018, 11:40:30 AM
Cats #12 AP preseason.
Ku 1, Huggy 13, TCU 20


http://m.espn.com/ncb/rankings
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 22, 2018, 06:58:37 PM
What did we end up ranked after the tournament last year? Or were we?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BostonPancake on October 22, 2018, 08:02:28 PM
What did we end up ranked after the tournament last year? Or were we?

19th
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on October 22, 2018, 08:38:58 PM
Damn Rick Barnes already has Tennessee in the preseason top 10?!  Can you imagine being the downgrade that fired him? 
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Post by: catastrophe on October 23, 2018, 12:25:06 PM
Tough to win at Texas.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 26, 2018, 01:05:57 PM
#10 in the Coaches :love:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
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Post by: pissclams on November 26, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
king oscar really needs to build our bench if he wants to hold that ranking
we need 2 bench players to provide significant contribution offensively and someone who can play strong defense in the paint.  otherwise we’re too shallow for the more talented teams
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on November 26, 2018, 05:16:52 PM
He got that pretty average roster clicking at the end of last year, pretty hard to do, we are prolly top 20 but 10 is redic unless we are playing great
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Post by: catastrophe on November 26, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
Marquette should be a fun test
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Post by: wetwillie on November 26, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
Marquette should be a fun test

I expect to win that contest comfortably
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Post by: kstate4life on December 03, 2018, 11:46:31 AM
#16

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press
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Post by: TheFormerKCCat on December 03, 2018, 12:02:57 PM
Marquette should be a fun test
I expect to win that contest comfortably
I expected the same, BUT . . . that was painful to watch (in person). Here's my hope: Marquette continues to improve and becomes a "good loss" (by tourney/RPI standards) and their wins continue to bolster our RPI. Hopefully it was a wakeup call to our guards too. They got absolutely embarrassed by Marcus Howard  :horrorsurprise:
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Post by: wetwillie on December 03, 2018, 12:18:41 PM
Not sure how good Marquette is, but Howard shot out of his mind.  In a regularly officiated game I think Barry could limit him.  Maybe we are not very good as some would suggest but I’m not convinced of that based on Saturday.
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on December 03, 2018, 01:13:03 PM
A 45 point game in college is pretty much always an anomaly, no matter how good the athlete is or how bad the defense is. We probably would not have won anyway, but certainly no reason to panic yet. I think dropping us to #16 is pretty fair.
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Post by: mocat on December 03, 2018, 01:18:44 PM
A 45 point game in college is pretty much always an anomaly, no matter how good the athlete is or how bad the defense is.

Howard is now 8 games into his Junior season, and this was already his 9th game of 30+ points. his career high is 52 (vs Providence last year)
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 03, 2018, 01:24:26 PM
Not sure how good Marquette is, but Howard shot out of his mind.  In a regularly officiated game I think Barry could limit him.  Maybe we are not very good as some would suggest but I’m not convinced of that based on Saturday.

I guess it depends on what "very good" means. I don't think we are a top 20 team. Maybe borderline top 25. We are a good enough team that we should comfortably make the tournament, though.
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Post by: TheFormerKCCat on December 03, 2018, 01:49:35 PM
A 45 point game in college is pretty much always an anomaly, no matter how good the athlete is or how bad the defense is. We probably would not have won anyway, but certainly no reason to panic yet. I think dropping us to #16 is pretty fair.
Dropping to #16 is VERY kind, IMHO. I think we're more like a borderline top 20 team, but we have much greater potential if all cylinders start hitting in order (see last year's elite 8 appearance as evidence).

Howard alone was worth the price of Saturday's ticket. That kid was amazing to watch. I bet Barry & Co want a rematch to see if they can hold him in a 'fairly' called game. Here's hoping we can get that rematch in the NCAA torn-a-ment.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 04, 2018, 08:22:33 PM
Trying to find meaning in a game where our starters spent a good portion of the game on the bench, and in which 50+ largely frivolous fouls were called is pointless.

Our ranking is fine. If we start shooting average, we're easily a top 15 team.
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Post by: catastrophe on December 05, 2018, 06:31:02 AM
Been waiting a few years to start shooting average
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 08, 2018, 11:58:54 PM
Hey guys. I'm no expert but I don't think we stay in the rankings this week.


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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 10, 2018, 11:19:34 AM
We really shouldn't have started the season in the rankings.
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Post by: dal9 on December 10, 2018, 12:35:57 PM
Hey guys. I'm no expert but I don't think we stay in the rankings this week.


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T-25!
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 10, 2018, 12:36:36 PM
Hey guys. I'm no expert but I don't think we stay in the rankings this week.


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T-25!
Hilarious


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Post by: chum1 on December 10, 2018, 01:17:13 PM
If we're ranked and don't deserve to be, the only explanation is that it's because oscar is our coach. Thank God we have him.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 10, 2018, 01:19:48 PM
All this is is another opportunity for oscar to blow another game against an unranked foe. It's a media conspiracy to get rid of him. The schedule makers are doing him no favors.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on December 10, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
All this is is another opportunity for oscar to blow another game against an unranked foe. It's a media conspiracy to get rid of him. The schedule makers are doing him no favors.

Yep, they know Weber’s entire game plan is based on playing with a chip on our shoulders. The longer the MEDIA keeps fighting to keep that chip away from our shoulders the more we will struggle AND THEY KNOW IT.
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Post by: Pete on December 29, 2022, 10:42:20 AM
If we win Saturday against ranked WVU, could we become ranked?  :dunno:
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Post by: pissclams on December 29, 2022, 10:49:57 AM
i’d love to get one to open up conference play and then get to be a ranked team.  and then when we become a ranked team, we will enjoy all of the riches that come along with being a ranked team.  nothing will stop us, ever.
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Post by: EMAWzifried on December 29, 2022, 12:58:13 PM
LSU, a team that had its heart removed like an Aztec sacrificial offering by Nowell, beat Arkansas last night.
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Post by: nicname on December 29, 2022, 01:31:08 PM
i’d love to get one to open up conference play and then get to be a ranked team.  and then when we become a ranked team, we will enjoy all of the riches that come along with being a ranked team.  nothing will stop us, ever.

It’s all part of the divine plan for KSU bball. Beat WVU and get ranked in top-25. Once ranked in top-25 all of our slick passing and dunk shots will be on highlights across the nation every night. Then we become America’s team and the whole country is transformed into EMAWrica.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on December 29, 2022, 09:21:52 PM
LSU, a team that had its heart removed like an Aztec sacrificial offering by Nowell, beat Arkansas last night.

How'd we lose to Butler?  Jeez, we'd be enjoying the riches of being ranked right now.
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Post by: pissclams on December 30, 2022, 08:14:08 AM
LSU, a team that had its heart removed like an Aztec sacrificial offering by Nowell, beat Arkansas last night.

How'd we lose to Butler?  Jeez, we'd be enjoying the riches of being ranked right now.
:Jeffy:
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on December 30, 2022, 08:19:21 AM
Being ranked is overrated. Just get in the dance and dance, fellas!
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Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2022, 09:00:43 AM
Definitely not overrated. Underrated if anything imo.
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 30, 2022, 09:17:50 AM
I'll take all the riches over none of the riches
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Post by: Winters on December 30, 2022, 10:05:57 AM
If we win Saturday against ranked WVU, could we become ranked?  :dunno:
Maybe!
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Post by: pissclams on December 30, 2022, 11:05:50 AM
I'll take all the riches over none of the riches

thinking about the riches right now, makes me feel rich
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 31, 2022, 08:48:59 PM
Bring on all of the riches
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: chum1 on December 31, 2022, 08:52:29 PM
Are the riches going to be delayed because of the holiday?
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Post by: Pete on December 31, 2022, 10:14:02 PM
crap, they better not.  I have already spent the riches that I expect to receive.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 01, 2023, 11:52:54 AM
You guys haven’t received your riches yet?  Got mine after the game.
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Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2023, 11:55:17 AM
I’ve got a spot for my riches setup next to the spot I’m waiting for my ksu fans cooler
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Post by: pissclams on January 01, 2023, 12:53:04 PM
they haven’t sent out or released any of the riches yet so those of you who are saying you have your riches, you more than likely are dealing with scammers
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Post by: CNS on January 01, 2023, 03:05:27 PM
Must be a Ponzi type of scam. They prob took Stunts and Wacks riches and used those to distribute riches to me yesterday. 

If I keep these and get the KSU AD formally distributed riches, well, that works for me.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 01, 2023, 03:13:02 PM
It's been well established that only true fans receive all of the riches
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Post by: nicname on January 01, 2023, 04:11:46 PM
It's been well established that only true fans receive all of the riches

Be thy not deceived, neither by charlatan nor necromancer. For the riches of the Kingdom are yours and yours alone; ye who art faithful in the glory and power of the Kingdom of Tang.
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 01, 2023, 06:09:55 PM
Riches? I thught they said bitches. Cleaned up the house for nothing.
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Post by: nicname on January 02, 2023, 09:27:08 AM
Cats up to No. 13 in the Colley Matrix (bias free cbb rankings).

https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html
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Post by: mocat on January 02, 2023, 11:52:07 AM
Looks like #30
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 02, 2023, 12:27:59 PM
This is outrageous
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Post by: EMAWzifried on January 02, 2023, 12:43:28 PM
LSU got more votes. WTF?
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Post by: Pete on January 02, 2023, 10:37:05 PM
Yeah, this is complete bullshit.
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Post by: CNS on January 03, 2023, 10:29:24 PM
What are you guys going to do with your #18 in the nation riches?  I’m going to Dave Ramsey mine.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2023, 10:29:53 PM
They cannot deny us our riches now!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 03, 2023, 10:39:18 PM
BESTOW THEM UPON US!
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 03, 2023, 10:41:21 PM
For those who are curious, the appropriate quantification of our riches is an embarrassment of riches
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 03, 2023, 11:02:37 PM
https://twitter.com/EddieBradfordPA/status/1610497760117264384
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Post by: mocat on January 03, 2023, 11:16:39 PM
Would be cool to have like 8/10 teams ranked in the top 25
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Post by: Pete on January 05, 2023, 07:44:26 AM
GUYS, THE RICHES!


https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-surges-into-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-texas-extending-win-streak/

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Every (Big 12 Team) is currently ranked in the top 40 at KenPom.com

 :eek:


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Tang, now 56, waited until he was 55 years old to accept his first head-coaching job in college and took over a Kansas State program that had gone 13-41 in Big 12 contests the previous three seasons. That reality prompted the coaching change. Tang was hired March 21, and in a matter of just a few months, he used the transfer portal to remake KSU's roster to the point where seven of the Wildcats' top eight scorers this season are players who were not in KSU's program last season

 :love: :love: :love:
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Post by: CHONGS on January 05, 2023, 09:57:54 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230105/b305fa8b1bdf7999decdc23e18d24bad.jpg)
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Post by: Spracne on January 05, 2023, 02:59:30 PM
GUYS, THE RICHES!


https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-surges-into-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-texas-extending-win-streak/

Quote
Every (Big 12 Team) is currently ranked in the top 40 at KenPom.com

 :eek:


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Tang, now 56, waited until he was 55 years old to accept his first head-coaching job in college and took over a Kansas State program that had gone 13-41 in Big 12 contests the previous three seasons. That reality prompted the coaching change. Tang was hired March 21, and in a matter of just a few months, he used the transfer portal to remake KSU's roster to the point where seven of the Wildcats' top eight scorers this season are players who were not in KSU's program last season

 :love: :love: :love:

Missouri is ranked? We (easily) beat the breaks off of them at their place.
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Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2023, 07:49:08 PM
Just dump the all the riches off in front the Ernie Barrett statue.  We deserve them ALL.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2023, 07:51:46 PM
icymi we’re talking about riches itt and there’s a crapload of them coming to mhk on monday
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Tbh I’m not even sure an “embarrassment” of riches is appropriate at this point. We probably need a humiliation or fuckton of riches or something idk.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 07, 2023, 07:55:17 PM
Where do we debut, 15?  Higher?
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Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
I’d like to see someone make a case for us to not be in the top 10 so I can laugh in their fat face.
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Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2023, 07:56:14 PM
AP poll is broken.  I'd be surprised if we're above 15
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Post by: nicname on January 07, 2023, 08:03:19 PM
icymi we’re talking about riches itt and there’s a crapload of them coming to mhk on monday

He went upon the hill to be close to his Father. As he knelt, he presented the blood offerings; three hearts, one each of a bear, a breeding bull and a gentile from the mountains to the east. Then a cloud formed. Manna rained down from the heavens as his Father was well pleased.

Tang 14:1
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Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 07, 2023, 08:13:43 PM
AP poll is broken.  I'd be surprised if we're above 15
Easily in the top 15. Never seen this type of bouncy house season in my life when it comes to the sport.
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Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 07, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
Gonzaga is ranked 9th with losses to Baylor and Texas. I wonder what the biggest rise in the AP in one week is?
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 08:22:18 PM
Where do we debut, 15?  Higher?

Higher. Gary Parrish will have us top 10 and pollsters seem to mirror his daily poll
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Post by: DaBigTrain on January 07, 2023, 08:23:46 PM
If we aren’t top 10 then Dlew12 needs to personally shame every single sportswriter who doesn’t put them top 10
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2023, 08:26:30 PM
I'm calling 12th
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Post by: KST8FAN on January 07, 2023, 09:00:58 PM
https://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/ap/research/unranked-to-ranked.cfm#.Y7ox-qRMF8g


Tom

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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 07, 2023, 09:33:48 PM
Tbh I’m not even sure an “embarrassment” of riches is appropriate at this point. We probably need a humiliation or fuckton of riches or something idk.

Id just like to offer some perspective WRT the quantity of riches we’re talking about here. Folks, to give you an idea…take the combined computing power of every datacenter that exists on planet earth this day…well, the amount of time it would take for them to calculate how much riches we got…none of the people that will be alive when that computation is complete have even been born yet.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2023, 09:42:31 PM
Tbh I’m not even sure an “embarrassment” of riches is appropriate at this point. We probably need a humiliation or fuckton of riches or something idk.

Id just like to offer some perspective WRT the quantity of riches we’re talking about here. Folks, to give you an idea…take the combined computing power of every datacenter that exists on planet earth this day…well, the amount of time it would take for them to calculate how much riches we got…none of the people that will be alive when that computation is complete have even been born yet.
Jeez, that is a lot.
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Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2023, 09:57:39 PM
ya i think I need saul to come translate this post from the big apple cat into english for me.  LOL - computers, man.  data in, data out, usb. 

i’m sorry but my parents don’t let me use computers (they don’t believe in computers), so i’m lost trying to understand your point.  regardless, i’m enrolling (late) for the spring semester and hopefully will take a few courses about computers, because i don’t even know how to turn them on.  anything would help, even if it’s online classes.

besides that stuff lets look at our cat friends and family tonight and say go cats to celebrate the big win.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 07, 2023, 10:08:27 PM
Clams, thank you, I got so wrapped up in The Riches I just go to town with all the computer jargon, with no regard for the “computer adjacent” bloggers on this board. I will take the remainder of the weekend not only to reflect on this plentiful bounty of riches (described in earlier post) but also to remind myself to check my privilege.
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Post by: nicname on January 08, 2023, 12:14:50 AM
https://twitter.com/BPredict/status/1611901089384726529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611901089384726529%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

BESTOW US!!
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Post by: KITNfury on January 08, 2023, 08:44:57 AM
https://twitter.com/BPredict/status/1611901089384726529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611901089384726529%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

BESTOW US!!
Top 5 or gtfo :don'tcare:
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Post by: cfbandyman on January 08, 2023, 09:56:47 AM
Not sure where we'll be, honestly will be shocked to be higher than 15 (but will take)

What is the highest someone has debuted in the AP no being ranked before? Like if we legit debut in the top 10 that has to be some sort of record, right?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 08, 2023, 10:38:50 AM
https://twitter.com/BPredict/status/1611901089384726529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611901089384726529%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

BESTOW US!!

Several of my A++ sources at the Associated Press (AP) have quietly started referring to this team as the QUAD SQUAD and while I can’t get any of them to come outright and say it, I’m v confident it is because of how well we are playing against Q1 opponents
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Post by: kstater on January 08, 2023, 11:10:55 AM


Not sure where we'll be, honestly will be shocked to be higher than 15 (but will take)

What is the highest someone has debuted in the AP no being ranked before? Like if we legit debut in the top 10 that has to be some sort of record, right?



https://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/ap/research/unranked-to-ranked.cfm#.Y7ox-qRMF8g


Tom

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Would be no where close to the record. 

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 08, 2023, 11:46:51 AM


Not sure where we'll be, honestly will be shocked to be higher than 15 (but will take)

What is the highest someone has debuted in the AP no being ranked before? Like if we legit debut in the top 10 that has to be some sort of record, right?


https://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/ap/research/unranked-to-ranked.cfm#.Y7ox-qRMF8g


Tom

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Would be no where close to the record. 

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I should actually read the thread  :blindfold:

Yeah, not close to the record, but we could beat ourselves (#13)
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Post by: Pete on January 08, 2023, 12:15:39 PM
If the Quad Squad Cats win their next two against OSU and @TCU, and fellow Quad Squad Hawks win against OU and ISU, then we could be looking at the one the greatest matchups in the history of the Octagon of Doom with College Game Day coming to town and a chance for clams to mend fences with Holly Rowe.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2023, 12:27:11 PM
Gary loves the crap out of us.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-enters-top-10-as-legit-big-12-contenders-after-ot-win-at-baylor/

Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 08, 2023, 12:31:49 PM
I happen to know for a fact that clams relationship with the original all American girl holly Rowe has been weighing heavily on him, to the point that he has been using several fake IDs in order to donate more plasma than is allowed so he can scape together enough $$ to travel to whatever game she is roaming the sidelines that week.

The QUAD SQUAD taking care of business and securing College GameDay (built by the Home Depot) would be great not only for this institution of higher learning but also for clams’ blood platelets (which he barely even has any right now they need time to regenerate)

Follow up question: low college game day IQ but do they do game day on tuesdays or is that just a Saturday thing?
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Post by: KITNfury on January 08, 2023, 12:36:56 PM
I don't think anyone watches basketball GameDay, but I guess it's cool if they come to the Bram.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2023, 12:37:39 PM
crap. We are slated for Tuesdays for both Quad Squad matchups this year.  Can the commission change that?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 08, 2023, 01:00:18 PM
crap. We are slated for Tuesdays for both Quad Squad matchups this year.  Can the commission change that?

Pete I actually think tuesdays are the right play, here. You have to remember, conference play gets underway in January. Saturdays (in January) are for using that gym membership or cleaning out the garage or fixing that leaky faucet or whatever New Years Resolution you haven’t given up on yet. Your captive basketball watching audience is Tuesday evening.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2023, 01:31:20 PM
Gary loves the crap out of us.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-enters-top-10-as-legit-big-12-contenders-after-ot-win-at-baylor/

https://youtu.be/BHPyy4Fzmls
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on January 08, 2023, 01:40:45 PM
Colley Matrix has Cats at #6

1. KU
2. Zona
3. Bama
4. Houston
5. Purdue
6. KSU Cats

https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html

KSU Colley profile and similar teams ——> https://www.colleyrankings.com/scgi-bin/hteamsplot.cgi?i1=162&i2=262&i3=73&i4=203&i5=194&s=2
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 09, 2023, 09:09:03 AM
Colley Matrix has Cats at #6

1. KU
2. Zona
3. Bama
4. Houston
5. Purdue
6. KSU Cats

https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html

KSU Colley profile and similar teams ——> https://www.colleyrankings.com/scgi-bin/hteamsplot.cgi?i1=162&i2=262&i3=73&i4=203&i5=194&s=2
I know it is still early but these Cats seem to have the makings of a team that could be dangerous in March.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2023, 10:14:12 AM
Everybody should be checking their accounts today, riches should be hitting them very soon.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 09, 2023, 10:17:54 AM
any High DMV IQ people ITT? I am on my way there now to legally change my name to Richie Rich and just curious the timetable on that process like will i have my new ID when i walk out of there in a couple hours or what?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 09, 2023, 10:25:10 AM
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19

Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 09, 2023, 10:30:28 AM
well the "chuds" portion of this weeks studs n chuds should be pretty straight forward
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: kstate4life on January 09, 2023, 11:09:52 AM
11!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 09, 2023, 11:23:45 AM
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19

Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.

That guy is taking a beating in the comments.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 09, 2023, 11:24:33 AM
So who is voter Dave Preston and why does he hate us?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 09, 2023, 11:28:22 AM
He's a Big 10 loser. Probably thought Michigan was going to win it all in football.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Institutional Control on January 09, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-01-09/kansas-jumps-no-1-power-36-mens-college-basketball-rankings

Andy knows basketball.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 09, 2023, 11:36:45 AM
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19

Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.

That guy is taking a beating in the comments.

I saw that. We even have squawks defending us in his comments.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Institutional Control on January 09, 2023, 11:38:05 AM
#11 :billdance:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Institutional Control on January 09, 2023, 11:39:20 AM
https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 09, 2023, 11:43:39 AM
 :whornsdown:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on January 09, 2023, 11:48:44 AM
Look at me, the idiot.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2023, 11:59:40 AM
https://twitter.com/davpresto/status/1612466027127783425?t=o2ff8QMRMKCjIZV-QgiW4g&s=19

Clown show, this guy has us UNRANKED.

That guy is taking a beating in the comments.



I saw that. We even have squawks defending us in his comments.

As he should, I don't expect much but damn that is bad
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 09, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
i can only assume this fella realized his numbers were down and needed a sure fire way to generate some traffic. I'm not (currently) an AP voter, but I cannot imagine I would disgrace myself like that just for a few thousand retweets.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 09, 2023, 12:52:21 PM
I can tell you what happened is the guy doesn't bother subscribing to ESPN Plus and was completely unaware that we beat 3 ranked teams in a row.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 09, 2023, 01:19:51 PM
the most disturbing thing here is you know Andew Kahn and Matt Tait (yes that Matt Tait from the Lawrence Journal-World) both got out of bed this morning fully prepared to committ career suicide and then Dave Preston decided to go to a busy mall and pull down his pants and diarrhea right in front of Forever 21
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 09, 2023, 01:20:34 PM
That poor guy just learned about the opposite of ranked riches.   :frown:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2023, 01:21:31 PM
plenty of tough choices and emissions, you dry dicked clowns
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 09, 2023, 02:35:52 PM
#11 is about perfect to be recognized for our accomplishments but still have a chip on our shoulder to be left out of the top ten and behind a team we just beat on the road.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on January 09, 2023, 03:43:10 PM
plenty of tough choices and emissions, you dry dicked clowns

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3rgXBOmTlzyFCURutG/giphy.gif)

 :bball:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 09, 2023, 06:17:04 PM
This happens a couple of times every year, some pollster will make an accidental error on their ballot. They'll simply forget a team or accidentally mess up blank university with blank state university. I remember a few years ago a guy fessed up to making a mistake on a drop down.

You can tell the legit decent dudes from the chuds when this happens. Usually the person making the mistake owns up to it, a simple "apologies I don't forgot to include Kansas State on my ballot, I'll be sure to fix it next week." Instead, this idiot replied to one person with a couple of snarky comments, then turned notifications off on his tweet about the ballot, and is going to simply ignore what he did wrong. People lacking personal accountability is a horrific personality trait.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Trim on January 13, 2023, 12:42:24 AM
Post it, KK.

https://themercury.com/opinion/from-the-publisher-be-careful-what-you-wish-for-in-basketball-poll/article_16c12692-e620-5d41-ae2f-2cee93c262ae.html
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: stunted on January 13, 2023, 01:13:31 AM
kenpom has us as a middle of the pack big 12 team, and also the luckiest team in the top 50. we are a bubble waiting to burst.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CNS on January 13, 2023, 08:48:42 AM
Post it, KK.

https://themercury.com/opinion/from-the-publisher-be-careful-what-you-wish-for-in-basketball-poll/article_16c12692-e620-5d41-ae2f-2cee93c262ae.html

12ft.io/ not working  :runaway:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2023, 11:53:09 AM
kenpom has us as a middle of the pack big 12 team, and also the luckiest team in the top 50. we are a bubble waiting to burst.
let’s enjoy it until it does!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kid In the Hall on January 13, 2023, 11:53:57 AM
I'm posting this, but nobody else should waste their time reading it (which is standard for anything written by Ned Seaton).

FROM THE PUBLISHER | Be careful what you wish for in basketball poll

There sure was a lot of recent froth on social media about K-State’s ranking in basketball. That spilled over into at least one sign at Bramlage Tuesday night, where somebody mugged for the camera with a sign that said “Bias Again in AP Poll.”

This after K-State showed up in the AP poll this week at #11 in the country.

But, OK, sure. Let’s assert, at least for the sake of argument, that K-State is one of the better teams in the country in men’s basketball this season. They sure look like it, winning on the road, winning at home, winning in shootouts, winning in defensive slugfests. Markquis Nowell is shooting threes from Mike Evans depth, and Keyontae Johnson catching that alley-oop and dunking it in crunchtime Tuesday night was jaw-dropping. We’re talking Mitch Richmond-type abilities.

If that’s true, then it is also true that the polls prior to this week underestimated K-State.

It’s also true that polls often do that, since K-State is in flyover country, in the shadow of the big crimson-and-blue gorilla over in Lawrence. K-State is, and always will be, the little guy – in every sport, in every way. The underdog. Always.

But here’s my point: This is good. This actually helps. The whole idea is to win the game. Right? The point, in big-time college athletics, is to win the game that you’re playing. Then, when you play again, to win that game. Then, eventually, to get into position to win a championship, or a tournament. The point is not to be ranked high in the polls, at least not halfway into the season.

The problem with being ranked high in the polls in the middle of the season is that it carries a psychological burden. Losing becomes some sort of catastrophe, and winning becomes just a relief.

When you’re the underdog, you have a psychological edge. You’re trying to prove ‘em wrong. You don’t have a burden, you have an extra fire inside. You have nothing to lose. You play to win; you don’t play not-to-lose. You’re the hunter, not the hunted. Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose.

The reality, of course, is that if you keep winning, the polls will eventually sort themselves out. If you lose, the polls will sort themselves out. By the end of the season, it’ll be pretty clear where everybody ought to be.

Is K-State the 11th-best team in college basketball? I have no idea. Nobody else does, either. It’s becoming clear that the Wildcats are capable of playing really good games. If they keep doing that, they’ll earn all the accolades that they can get.

Fans clamoring for “respect” is fine, and fans yelping about bias is also standard stuff. But just keep in mind that the getting the “respect” that you’re clamoring for will not actually help at all.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Trim on January 13, 2023, 11:58:33 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WildcatNation on January 13, 2023, 12:08:48 PM
What an absolutely terrible article. K-State is pretty easily a top 20 all time program. Why does our fanbase always need to be some type of underdog program in football and/or basketball?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 13, 2023, 12:26:07 PM
ned can get wrecked
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 13, 2023, 12:34:20 PM
He's just jealous his beloved Haavard isn't ranked. Also, are they still using 1980s word processors at the Mercury?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 13, 2023, 01:25:52 PM
Is Ned aware that we have to recruit players?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kid In the Hall on January 13, 2023, 02:45:22 PM
He's just jealous his beloved Haavard isn't ranked. Also, are they still using 1980s word processors at the Mercury?

I always assumed that Mark Janssen was just to old to try to understand how to use a non-1983 Tandy "laptop" since he was still using that in the early 2000s, but maybe it was just because the Merc was too poor. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 13, 2023, 06:08:42 PM
I think the words you're looking for is "too cheap." I knew the guy who setup the word processing system for them. He was working as their circulatin manager and noticed them just setting in boxes in the print shop area before he told him he could install the system. This was like in the early 90s. They stayed with that system well into the 20000s. I think they've changed over to used Macs they bought of EBAY for copy/design now.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 18, 2023, 08:24:37 AM
still not in the kenpom top 25 (#26 overall, #36 offense, #36 defense)

holding us back: offensive TO%, defensive rebounding, defensive fouling.
we are top 75 (top 25%) in all other areas: offensive FG%, defensive FG%, defensive TO%, Oboard%, FTA/FGA

if you've noticed our tempo and thought "nice", you are correct. our tempo, for those interested, is 69.9 possessions per game, which is the #69 fastest in the country.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2023, 09:14:43 AM
Net rankings love the crap out of the cats tho
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 18, 2023, 09:25:14 AM
still not in the kenpom top 25 (#26 overall, #36 offense, #36 defense)

holding us back: offensive TO%, defensive rebounding, defensive fouling.
we are top 75 (top 25%) in all other areas: offensive FG%, defensive FG%, defensive TO%, Oboard%, FTA/FGA

if you've noticed our tempo and thought "nice", you are correct. our tempo, for those interested, is 69.9 possessions per game, which is the #69 fastest in the country.

Nice
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 18, 2023, 10:51:45 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/)

 :pbj: :fistpump: :pbj: (ftp://:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj:)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 18, 2023, 01:53:20 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/)

 :pbj: :fistpump: :pbj: (ftp://:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj:)
Gary rough ridin' loves us.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 18, 2023, 04:41:17 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-state-vaults-to-no-6-in-top-25-and-1-after-upsetting-rival-kansas/)

 :pbj: :fistpump: :pbj: (ftp://:pbj: :fistpump: :pbj:)
Gary rough ridin' loves us.

he should, he’s a writer and we’re a great story.  the media will drop us like a rock when we start to shoot at a more normal percentage.

i really wish we would grab more defensive rebounds. so frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2023, 05:08:47 PM
What FG% are you expecting us to regress to?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on January 18, 2023, 07:28:55 PM
nvm, it looks like we’ve cooled off since baylor
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on January 19, 2023, 12:43:32 PM
Inject (other than losing the final to KU)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230119/dc5ce72fcaea6fd796b9234a84eaca37.jpg)


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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2023, 01:11:51 PM
Could you even imagine lmao
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 01:20:17 PM
eff that
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2023, 02:06:21 PM
A 4 seed in the south? Put some rough ridin' respect on our name Joe.
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 19, 2023, 02:37:25 PM
I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.

Our net ranking is 15, kenpom is 26. The pollsters like us a lot better than the computers do.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 19, 2023, 02:49:55 PM
yeah being 4-0 in OT games means a lot more to people than it does to computers
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 19, 2023, 02:51:03 PM
KenPom has us 16th in Luck
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2023, 03:30:40 PM
Damn, it appears Joe put the appropriate amount of respect on our name
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 19, 2023, 03:39:08 PM
I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.

Our net ranking is 15, kenpom is 26. The pollsters like us a lot better than the computers do.
Is there a last season bias for those computer metrics? Or do they just not take into account love and passion for the game?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 19, 2023, 03:51:22 PM
kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on January 19, 2023, 03:55:25 PM
Also, computers generally don’t respond as well to close and OT wins as pollsters; excluding the reputable Colley Matrix https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 04:05:54 PM
I gotta admit I can’t say I necessarily disagree with a 4 seed projection but I’m not sure what exactly is holding the Cats back other than the reputation we started with at the beginning of the year. Our resume is pretty incredible at the moment.

Our net ranking is 15, kenpom is 26. The pollsters like us a lot better than the computers do.
Is there a last season bias for those computer metrics? Or do they just not take into account love and passion for the game?

Yes for KP as mocat already said, no for the net rating
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 04:09:44 PM
Also, computers generally don’t respond as well to close and OT wins as pollsters; excluding the reputable Colley Matrix https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html

I think the colley matrix is interesting but, unlike football, is functionally useless for basketball because we know the actual criteria selection the tools used during that selection and the colley matrix isn't one of those.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2023, 05:11:02 PM
kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo

AFAIK the NET doesn’t though, that 15 is a tough pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 19, 2023, 05:48:34 PM
kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo

AFAIK the NET doesn’t though, that 15 is a tough pill to swallow.
Is that just a function of weak non conference or do we need to be blowing out more teams?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 19, 2023, 06:24:26 PM
We played a lot of close games against the weak nonconference.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 19, 2023, 06:44:47 PM
kenpom has preseason priors that fade away as the season progresses. probably not fast enough imo

AFAIK the NET doesn’t though, that 15 is a tough pill to swallow.

15 feels right
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 19, 2023, 08:35:08 PM
We played a lot of close games against the weak nonconference.

I’m old enough to remember us getting dog walked by butler
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on January 19, 2023, 08:54:41 PM
Also, computers generally don’t respond as well to close and OT wins as pollsters; excluding the reputable Colley Matrix https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurrank.html

I think the colley matrix is interesting but, unlike football, is functionally useless for basketball because we know the actual criteria selection the tools used during that selection and the colley matrix isn't one of those.

Yeah, I just like it and promote it as much as possible.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2023, 09:01:21 PM
Yeah, a 15 net at this point is really good, it's not likely to get worse. There are some teams in front of us like St. Mary's and Florida Atlantic, who have no shot at staying as high as they are.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 20, 2023, 08:45:04 AM
think of kenpom as predictive based on off/def efficiency, and NET as a résumé of previous W/L results, which are not predictive.

it makes total sense that we'd be lower in kenpom (a turd of a noncon, winning lots of very close games, not competitive in losses) than NET (sparkling overall and quad 1 W/L records, no quad 3/4 losses).

the only comfortable win we had against a real team was at texas, and kenpom jumped us from #45 to #29 after that game.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on January 20, 2023, 06:01:33 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230121/686795c22800e7944b23268c5e6bb099.jpg)

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: KITNfury on January 20, 2023, 07:15:48 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230121/686795c22800e7944b23268c5e6bb099.jpg)

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Looks like we're the finger cuff in the suspect and streaky love triangle.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Kat Kid on January 20, 2023, 07:38:22 PM
What an absolutely terrible article. K-State is pretty easily a top 20 all time program. Why does our fanbase always need to be some type of underdog program in football and/or basketball?
Ned is Wooly brained. There are plenty of other people that think like this. Chignon wrote essays on the mentality of this part of the fan base.


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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on January 22, 2023, 04:51:46 PM
https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1617285135057170433?s=46&t=RXyqIV8642dgA1m9188CSg
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 22, 2023, 06:06:29 PM
These riches have exceeded my expectations.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: nicname on January 22, 2023, 07:11:06 PM
Our riches overflow like rivers of living water. From realm to realm throughout the Big 12, the riches permeate and nourish each of our lands for a bountiful harvest!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 23, 2023, 08:35:24 AM
Number 5 in the ESPN Power Rankings.  KU is number 6, which is very good for them considering KU's troubling struggles of late. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35503553/houston-kansas-lose-big-alabama-new-no-1-men-college-basketball-power-rankings-2022-23
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: konofo on January 23, 2023, 08:46:26 AM
I have no expectation that the AP voters will be quite so generous with their riches, but I'm hopeful that we'll be able to jump three teams into the top 10.  Only five of the twelve teams ahead of us made it through the week unscathed, so there's going to be a lot of shuffling at the top.  I predict we're passing ISU, Xavier, and Gonzaga, with Texas, UCLA, and KU staying ahead of us.

kono
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: star seed 7 on January 23, 2023, 09:42:16 AM
Number 5 in the ESPN Power Rankings.  KU is number 6, which is very good for them considering KU's troubling struggles of late. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35503553/houston-kansas-lose-big-alabama-new-no-1-men-college-basketball-power-rankings-2022-23

Number 6 is quite respectable!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: KITNfury on January 23, 2023, 11:07:24 AM
Number 5 in the ESPN Power Rankings.  KU is number 6, which is very good for them considering KU's troubling struggles of late. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35503553/houston-kansas-lose-big-alabama-new-no-1-men-college-basketball-power-rankings-2022-23

Number 6 is quite respectable!
It's definitely ok
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 23, 2023, 11:08:09 AM
5 in the AP!
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on January 23, 2023, 11:23:12 AM
5 in the AP!


I'm like alright let's settle down
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 23, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
5 in the AP!


I'm like alright let's settle down

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll

Hahaha suck it haters. Makes Farmageddon hoops very very relavent.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 23, 2023, 11:29:51 AM
feels weird
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 23, 2023, 11:31:04 AM
If we win our next two conference games plus the Florida game it’s on like donkey Kong for a 2 seed or better.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 23, 2023, 11:35:44 AM
We are so rough ridin' good you guys
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 23, 2023, 11:37:06 AM
If we win our next two conference games plus the Florida game it’s on like donkey Kong for a 2 seed or better.
We’d be a 1
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 23, 2023, 11:37:49 AM
Our wins speak for themselves. They gotta rank us that high, regardless of some advanced statistical rankings.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 23, 2023, 11:40:41 AM
We definitely pass the eye test we keep winning we are gonna be #1 very soon
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 23, 2023, 11:50:51 AM
If we win our next two conference games plus the Florida game it’s on like donkey Kong for a 2 seed or better.

We'd be a 1 seed, and honestly knocking on the door of the overall 1 seed at that point if that happened. But more to your point we'd be hard pressed to be less than a 2 seed if we have a okish end to the season at that point
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: konofo on January 23, 2023, 11:56:14 AM
This must be how it feels to be an SEC football team.

kono
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 23, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
feels weird
I know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.

I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 23, 2023, 12:58:43 PM
feels weird
I know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.

I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.

Tang is the veteran mountain man, making sure we acclimate to the rarified air so we don't get altitude sickness. I trust he will guide us and in the end we will all have bigger lungs that are better able to function in low oxygen environments.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 23, 2023, 01:02:21 PM
feels weird
I know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.

I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.

Tang is the veteran mountain man, making sure we acclimate to the rarified air so we don't get altitude sickness. I trust he will guide us and in the end we will all have bigger lungs that are better able to function in low oxygen environments.
What a beautiful analogy.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ChiComCat on January 23, 2023, 03:07:15 PM
I think Keyontae's age and experience give him an edge as expectations and stakes go up.  Making big late game FTs have to seem a little less stressful after what he's been through.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: ben ji on January 23, 2023, 03:44:17 PM
feels weird
I know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.

I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.

Tang is the veteran mountain man, making sure we acclimate to the rarified air so we don't get altitude sickness. I trust he will guide us and in the end we will all have bigger lungs that are better able to function in low oxygen environments.
Tang has been to the mountaintop before and now he's taking us. #InTangWeTrust

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Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: stunted on January 23, 2023, 11:28:54 PM
we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Tobias on January 23, 2023, 11:30:03 PM
we've been really unlucky the last few years so i'm happy for that
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 23, 2023, 11:52:02 PM
we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom

One of my favorite sayings is "you make your own luck".
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 24, 2023, 12:09:19 AM
Bad coaches are always unlucky. Odd that.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2023, 06:33:28 AM
I think I heard someone say wooly was bitten by a snake so that’s about as unlucky as it gets
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2023, 06:37:27 AM
It just means our win% is outpacing our efficiency
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on January 24, 2023, 06:41:42 AM
It just means our win% is outpacing our efficiency
Yes and I'm not sure if I still have a kenpom sub but I would his "luck" rating varies wildly for most coaches every year
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 24, 2023, 08:05:49 AM
we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom

One of my favorite sayings is "you make your own luck".
My favorite is “I’d rather be lucky than good.”

Hell, I mean luck is what it takes to get a Natty with the 64+ team format. Tang’s a smart guy—wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got our boys doing luck drills every day.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Lrrrrman on January 24, 2023, 08:35:03 AM
we are by far the luckiest team in the top 100 kenpom

I've always just assumed that the luck column is a measure of how out of touch Kenpom is. His model always feels like it weighs preseason expectations way too heavily.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2023, 10:19:14 AM
It just means our win% is outpacing our efficiency
Yes and I'm not sure if I still have a kenpom sub but I would his "luck" rating varies wildly for most coaches every year

i think you're probably right. Self is the exception, i'd imagine in part because he is amazing at drawing up plays in tight late game situations, and more often than not has better players to execute them.

oscar luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#61) -0.092 (#344)
2021 (#147) +0.026 (#117)
2020 (#90) -0.129 (#348)
2019 (#20) +0.049 (#65)
2018 (#42) +0.071 (#31)
2017 (#30) -0.029 (#256)
2016 (#55) -0.052 (#298)
2015 (#81) +0.010 (#158)
2014 (#45) +0.001 (#185)
2013 (#27) +0.051 (#51)

Scott Drew luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#4) +0.004 (#163)
2021 (#2) +0.046 (#80)
2020 (#3) +0.016 (#144)
2019 (#35) -0.029 (#255)
2018 (#34) -0.079 (#335)
2017 (#13) +0.023 (#126)
2016 (#24) -0.012 (#211)
2015 (#14) -0.035 (#268)
2014 (#26) +0.012 (#157)
2013 (#28) -0.090 (#333)

Bill Self luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#3) +0.041 (#88)
2021 (#27) +0.070 (#44)
2020 (#1) +0.040 (#79)
2019 (#17) +0.076 (#26)
2018 (#9) +0.076 (#23)
2017 (#6) +0.067 (#32)
2016 (#3) +0.044 (#75)
2015 (#12) +0.070 (#33)
2014 (#7) -0.051 (#295)
2013 (#8) +0.010 (#153)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: michigancat on January 24, 2023, 10:21:16 AM
It just means our win% is outpacing our efficiency
Yes and I'm not sure if I still have a kenpom sub but I would his "luck" rating varies wildly for most coaches every year

i think you're probably right. Self is the exception, i'd imagine in part because he is amazing at drawing up plays in tight late game situations, and more often than not has better players to execute them.

oscar luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#61) -0.092 (#344)
2021 (#147) +0.026 (#117)
2020 (#90) -0.129 (#348)
2019 (#20) +0.049 (#65)
2018 (#42) +0.071 (#31)
2017 (#30) -0.029 (#256)
2016 (#55) -0.052 (#298)
2015 (#81) +0.010 (#158)
2014 (#45) +0.001 (#185)
2013 (#27) +0.051 (#51)

Scott Drew luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#4) +0.004 (#163)
2021 (#2) +0.046 (#80)
2020 (#3) +0.016 (#144)
2019 (#35) -0.029 (#255)
2018 (#34) -0.079 (#335)
2017 (#13) +0.023 (#126)
2016 (#24) -0.012 (#211)
2015 (#14) -0.035 (#268)
2014 (#26) +0.012 (#157)
2013 (#28) -0.090 (#333)

Bill Self luck history
year (rank) luck (rank)
2022 (#3) +0.041 (#88)
2021 (#27) +0.070 (#44)
2020 (#1) +0.040 (#79)
2019 (#17) +0.076 (#26)
2018 (#9) +0.076 (#23)
2017 (#6) +0.067 (#32)
2016 (#3) +0.044 (#75)
2015 (#12) +0.070 (#33)
2014 (#7) -0.051 (#295)
2013 (#8) +0.010 (#153)
Maybe because he's playing from ahead more often? But I think the formula mostly accounts for it with efficiency. Still has been close to the 300s
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: mocat on January 24, 2023, 10:25:26 AM
Self is pretty consistently on the good side of luck

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230124/543c83782655676d75c156a1cc4d5763.jpg)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 24, 2023, 10:46:24 AM
just curious but is the luck category a 0 sum game?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 24, 2023, 12:00:44 PM
I think our luck metric is probably as good as it is because the team has shown some drastic improvement over the course of the season and started hitting its stride right when Big 12 play started.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 24, 2023, 01:51:13 PM
feels weird
I know an elite ranking is what our record calls for but I makes me uneasy. Would rather quietly hang out in the 10 -15 range, rip thru Big 12 tourney and sneak onto the 1 or 2 line for the Big Dance.

I'm glad we have Coach Tang to lead the Wildcat people through the pressure of these stratospheric rankings.
Expect to win, dude. The higher ranking is great for recruiting and fuels media attention, which builds even more recruiting momentum.   
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 29, 2023, 01:37:12 PM
Sheesh
(https://i.ibb.co/dLTNhkq/Screenshot-20230129-133533.png)
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: KITNfury on January 29, 2023, 01:43:24 PM
It's out
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 29, 2023, 01:49:18 PM
In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.
Quote
Four teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.

One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.

The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.

Most have all three.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 29, 2023, 01:51:28 PM
KP still hates our guts
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: KITNfury on January 29, 2023, 01:57:56 PM
In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.
Quote
Four teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.

One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.

The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.

Most have all three.
I respect this way of ranking.
Title: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 29, 2023, 02:30:52 PM
In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.
Quote
Four teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.

One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.

The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.

Most have all three.
I respect this way of ranking.
100p.
 
I appreciate anyone principled in their approach and willing to own it when it looks kind of silly in application.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 29, 2023, 02:51:06 PM
In case anyone was curious about him not penalizing Alabama while punishing Iowa State and UT, even though Alabama had far and away the worst loss of the three.
Quote
Four teams ranked in the top five of Saturday morning's CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 played on Saturday. Three of them lost -- all on the road in what was the final year of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge. Home teams went 8-2 in the event to underline just how difficult it can be to win on the road in either league.

One of the top-five teams that lost was Alabama.

The Crimson Tide got smacked at Oklahoma, 93-69, so you might be wondering why Alabama remains No. 2 in Sunday morning's updated Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Fair question. The answer is that I simply do not believe anybody other than No. 1 Purdue has a better body of work than Alabama even after that 24-point loss to the Sooners. The Crimson Tide are still 18-3 overall, including 8-0 in the SEC, with a 6-3 record in Quadrant 1 and zero losses outside of the first quadrant. Literally every school in the country besides Purdue either has fewer Quadrant-1 wins than Alabama and/or more Quad 1 losses than Alabama and/or more losses outside of the first quadrant than Alabama.

Most have all three.
I respect this way of ranking.
100p.
 
I appreciate anyone principled in their approach and willing to own it when it looks kind of silly in application.

Yup agreed, I also suspect when the actual ranking to come out for us to not move at all.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: dal9 on January 29, 2023, 06:04:17 PM
Sheesh
(https://i.ibb.co/dLTNhkq/Screenshot-20230129-133533.png)


#2 if u disqualify teams harboring murderers on their roster
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 30, 2023, 11:29:43 AM
AP has us at #7
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 30, 2023, 11:40:46 AM
What is the highest AP ranking a KSU hoops team has received since the rebirth?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: CHONGS on January 30, 2023, 11:45:37 AM
#4 I think. Then we got beat by then sister school Duke.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 30, 2023, 11:52:03 AM
Looks like Pullens junior and senior year we made appearances in the top 5 at various stages of the season. Oh man was that when Kyrie torched us at the sprint center?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 30, 2023, 11:52:40 AM
Number 7 is a slap in the face.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 30, 2023, 12:40:46 PM
#7 doesn’t sing “riches” IYAM
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 30, 2023, 01:34:16 PM
Let's all take a moment to acknowledge that before the season if you told us that we'd be pissed at being ranked 7th we would have blown our rough ridin' minds.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 30, 2023, 01:35:21 PM
NOTE:  I am not saying we are wrong to get pissed about a #7 ranking.  We are free Americans, and we have that right. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 30, 2023, 01:40:21 PM
7th!?!?! WTF  :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 30, 2023, 01:40:51 PM
I'm pissed off at my past self for thinking 7th is something that I should be happy with.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on January 30, 2023, 02:03:44 PM
I don’t watch any non big 12 basketball so it’s hard for me to know which team to be pissed off at being in front of us.  Purdue I think is probably the clear cut front runner for the overall #1 seed but I’d listen to an argument for why #2-6 shouldn’t be ahead of the cats.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: OK_Cat on January 30, 2023, 02:18:08 PM
rankings are fun to talk about, but don't really matter.  keep winning and it'll work itself out.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: catastrophe on January 30, 2023, 02:42:24 PM
Let's all take a moment to acknowledge that before the season if you told us that we'd be pissed at being ranked 7th we would have blown our rough ridin' minds.

FROM HERE ON OUT, EXPECT TO WIN
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 30, 2023, 04:09:52 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 30, 2023, 04:28:44 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: cfbandyman on January 30, 2023, 04:29:54 PM
Let's all take a moment to acknowledge that before the season if you told us that we'd be pissed at being ranked 7th we would have blown our rough ridin' minds.

Tang's culture man
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on January 30, 2023, 05:06:07 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Pete on January 30, 2023, 06:26:41 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming

Yeah, they look pretty darn good,
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 02, 2023, 01:43:03 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He  seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Spracne on February 02, 2023, 01:57:15 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He  seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?

Is Anthony Davis a true center?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 02, 2023, 02:04:09 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He  seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?

Is Anthony Davis a true center?
He was a threat to score away from the basket and had a handle in college, right? Could be considered a center in terms of his elite rebounding and ability to protect the rim, I guess.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 02, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He  seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?

Is Anthony Davis a true center?
Sure, but he faced up quite a bit in college. I think sandstone is talking about a true back to the basket 80s & 90s big. I truly don't know the answer to that question. I do know the last big, like Edey to win MOP was Emeka Okafor. I don't remember that team good enough to know if he was far and away the best player though.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Skipper44 on February 02, 2023, 08:34:09 PM
Duke was stacked in 2015 but Jahil Okafor was pretty dominant with a completely old school low post game.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WildcatNation on February 02, 2023, 11:33:31 PM
Deandre Ayton
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 03, 2023, 07:57:53 AM
Deandre Ayton

That Arizona team lost in the first round, my guy.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: wetwillie on February 03, 2023, 08:20:10 AM
This thread is about riches and their bestowment upon us. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: WildcatNation on February 03, 2023, 10:30:53 AM
Deandre Ayton

That Arizona team lost in the first round, my guy.

Okay? He averaged something like 20/12 that season
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: MakeItRain on February 03, 2023, 07:38:34 PM
Deandre Ayton

That Arizona team lost in the first round, my guy.

Okay? He averaged something like 20/12 that season

Did you actually read what prompted The discussion?

I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He  seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2023, 07:19:05 AM
I'm pretty sure we would beat any team ranked ahead of us on our home court. Not sure about a neutral court, but I'd like our chances. I think we would beat Alabama on their court.

None of those teams scare me

I watched Purdue yesterday and Edey is overwhelming
I didn't know anything about this guy and I looked up some of his highlights. He  seems pretty dominant. What was the last team to win a natty led (to a large degree) by the play of a true center?

Is Anthony Davis a true center?
Sure, but he faced up quite a bit in college. I think sandstone is talking about a true back to the basket 80s & 90s big. I truly don't know the answer to that question. I do know the last big, like Edey to win MOP was Emeka Okafor. I don't remember that team good enough to know if he was far and away the best player though.

Ben Gordon was an absolute beast that year too.  He was their leading scorer.  Got drafted the pick after Okafor.  And they weirdly had a shitload of really good young bigs backing Okafor up/playing around him.  Charlie Villanueva, Josh Boone and Hilton Armstrong.  All 6-10 or taller and all first rounders.  Crazy. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: Mr Bread on February 04, 2023, 07:33:06 AM
Doesn't look like Purdue has any other NBA players on that roster. 
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2023, 08:41:17 AM
Doesn't look like Purdue has any other NBA players on that roster. 

purdue?  more like purdon’t.
Title: Re: Rankings thread, yeah I said it!
Post by: star seed 7 on February 04, 2023, 09:44:00 AM
PurDUMB
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 04, 2023, 10:04:20 AM
PurDOODOO (as in poop!)  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: CHONGS on February 04, 2023, 10:31:42 AM
I've always been partial to Purdurp.
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Post by: cfbandyman on February 27, 2023, 12:35:13 PM
Up to #11 in the AP. About what I thought we'd be
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 27, 2023, 12:57:30 PM
Rick Bozich can absolutely get wrecked for putting us at 20. Several incredibly elite writers putting us at 5.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 27, 2023, 01:06:24 PM
Seth Davis' ballot is a little WTF as well

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2022/week-17
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 27, 2023, 01:08:43 PM
PurDOODOO (as in poop!)  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Second grade me laughed at this one so hard on the school bus the night that the Cats beat them in Pontiac.
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Post by: EMAWzifried on February 27, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
Good ol' homer Tait. I'll wager it pains him to write in the Cats every week.
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Post by: ChiComCat on February 27, 2023, 02:05:28 PM
Seth Davis' ballot is a little WTF as well

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2022/week-17

Yeah, if you think UT, Baylor and KU are all top 6 teams then you should probably like the team that's 4-2 against them.
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Post by: cfbandyman on February 28, 2023, 10:38:58 AM
Seth Davis' ballot is a little WTF as well

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2022/week-17

Yeah, if you think UT, Baylor and KU are all top 6 teams then you should probably like the team that's 4-2 against them.

Lol facts
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Post by: nicname on October 15, 2023, 08:15:03 PM
Cats No. 25 in preseason kenpom

https://kenpom.com/

2 KU
3 Hou
7 Bay
16 UT
25 ksu
30 TCU
31 Isu
36 BYU
43 TTU
48 ou
53 Cincy
64 WVU
68 OSU
72 UCF

6 Zona
28 cu
52 Utah
81 Zona st

24 atm
55 Mizzou
58 nubb

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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 15, 2023, 08:26:43 PM
First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!
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Post by: nicname on October 15, 2023, 08:29:52 PM
First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!

I just copy/paste the link bro.

Regarding USC, a good teacher lets his pupil uncover the truth thru a little digging.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 15, 2023, 08:36:56 PM
First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!

I just copy/paste the link bro.

Regarding USC, a good teacher lets his pupil uncover the truth thru a little digging.
You of all people should know it’s unsafe to walk up to a hidden front porch, there’s a 50/50 shot the owner is waiting with their .45 just waiting for someone uninvited to walk up. Yet you’re posting unsafe internet links out here!
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Post by: nicname on October 15, 2023, 08:42:56 PM
First of all, why does that not redirect to https? Secondly why didn’t you post USC, I had to click the unsafe link to see what they were gonna be for the Vegas game!

I just copy/paste the link bro.

Regarding USC, a good teacher lets his pupil uncover the truth thru a little digging.
You of all people should know it’s unsafe to walk up to a hidden front porch, there’s a 50/50 shot the owner is waiting with their .45 just waiting for someone uninvited to walk up. Yet you’re posting unsafe internet links out here!

 :lol:, I think we can trust kenpom not to give us cpu aidz
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 16, 2023, 12:28:39 AM
How does a computer algo do preseason rankings?
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 16, 2023, 07:45:02 PM
Computer eyeball test, obvs
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 16, 2023, 08:24:15 PM
Computer eyeball test, obvs

Yep

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/ai-services/ai-vision
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Post by: wetwillie on October 16, 2023, 08:37:35 PM
I think it's heavily weighted towards recruiting classes early in the season
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 16, 2023, 08:46:13 PM
Do recruiting rankings factor in later in the season? Seems worthless
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Post by: mocat on October 16, 2023, 09:40:09 PM
Do recruiting rankings factor in later in the season? Seems worthless
Kenpom fades out preseason ratings as the season goes on, he wrote about it a few years ago iirc
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2023, 12:03:26 PM
First NET Ratings were released today, we're 100th, OOF  :sdeek:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
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Post by: Spracne on December 04, 2023, 12:07:42 PM
First NET Ratings were released today, we're 100th, OOF  :sdeek:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Big 12 looks to be strong af this year, so lots of opportunities for some good wins to turn that around.
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Post by: pissclams on December 04, 2023, 02:49:21 PM
First NET Ratings were released today, we're 100th, OOF  :sdeek:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Big 12 looks to be strong af this year, so lots of opportunities for some good wins to turn that around.
a good point guard would also turn it around
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Post by: KITNfury on January 21, 2024, 08:21:18 AM
Or else  :don'tcare:
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2024, 08:32:06 AM
I gotta feeling you’ll be getting the ELSE, my dude
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Post by: KITNfury on January 21, 2024, 08:36:52 AM
I gotta feeling you’ll be getting the ELSE, my dude
Then the world shall feel my wrath
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Post by: cfbandyman on January 21, 2024, 08:57:50 AM
There is so much pandemonium in the top 25 it's hard to even tell who should be ranked, and it's 2 months into this season, which is crazy. it's not like football were it's not worth getting bent out of shape until like week 4. We're halfway through and I honestly don't think there are any "really good" teams. And BTW we will not be ranked, we didn't even have a vote in last weeks poll.

Also it's sometimes hard to really take NET seriously. There are 9 teams with 7 or 8 losses ahead of us. I "get" how it works, but eventually those losses gotta count against you. At this rate we'll go like 4-5 in the next 9 games and our NET will rise to like 30 or something dumb. I get it's competition, just so weird.

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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 21, 2024, 09:15:35 AM
The USC and Miami losses aren't aging very well.
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2024, 10:45:46 AM
The USC and Miami losses aren't aging very well.

The Nebraska loss, however, is not as cataclysmic as initially thought. I mean don’t get me wrong it’s still pretty not great, esp considering it was a home game, but if we are a bubble team I don’t think that loss will be pointed to as a reason to leave ‘em out
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Post by: wetwillie on January 21, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
The good news is we are not going to be a bubble team
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 21, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
If we can go .500 or better for the next 30 days then I will believe you
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Post by: DaBigTrain on January 21, 2024, 12:41:50 PM
We’re gonna be fine
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Post by: KITNfury on January 21, 2024, 05:06:32 PM
If we win in Ames, I'll start to be bullish on our 'cats.
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Post by: MakeItRain on January 22, 2024, 10:14:29 PM
Winning in Ames is reason to believe we're a tournament lock. Winning in Houston is reason to believe we're going to compete for the conference title. Winning both makes us the conference favorites.
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Post by: PurpleOil on January 23, 2024, 01:43:52 PM
Winning in Ames is reason to believe we're a tournament lock. Winning in Houston is reason to believe we're going to compete for the conference title. Winning both makes us the conference favorites.

I love it when you talk dirty to this board.
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Post by: michigancat on January 23, 2024, 01:56:54 PM
we were really spoiled/lucky last year. This team needed to replace an absurd amount of scoring but they play hard and grind out wins. don't be "bullish" if you don't want to but man I think this is a very enjoyable team to follow.
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Post by: Cire on January 23, 2024, 02:04:01 PM
we were really spoiled/lucky last year. This team needed to replace an absurd amount of scoring but they play hard and grind out wins. don't be "bullish" if you don't want to but man I think this is a very enjoyable team to follow.

Agreed.  they play hard, especially on defense.  When shots are falling it's glorious.